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Islam is an imperialist ideology of world conquest that had been dormant during the colonial period.

In Islam’s first 100 years, the conquest of most of the known world was seen as a vindication that Islam is the true religion. The final conquest of the Roman Empire – the greatest Empire to ever exist – by the capture of its capital, Constantinople, in 1453 was seen as the ultimate vindication that Allah wills that Islam shall rule. But the loss of Iberia, the battle of Lepanto, and the final retreat from Vienna (in 1683) has caused a crisis of faith. The dissolution of the caliphate by Westwards-looking Turkish nationalists was the final blow. The Islamic Revival [1] seeks to reverse these events and restore Islam’s glory.

I have one and only one question for you. Do you or do you not support jihad in the cause of establishing a world-wide caliphate?

[1] http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/09/islamic-revival.html

“…made comments that implied that I was a terrorist.” - Ellison

Maybe if you didn’t associate with a Wahhabi Saudi-funded terrorist-supporting lobby (i.e. CAIR) we’d believe you. Your blind support for James Yee also raises suspicions. Even if within the law, his support for questionable parties raises important questions about his loyalties … as does your support for him.

“You are known by the company you keep.”

This article should be REQUIRED READING for every lawmaker in Washington DC and every American in general.

Mr. Ellison you're an example to us all.

Mr. Ellison:

It's unbecoming that a small number of Americans are still stuck at your faith; they better move on. Watching you at the chamber of the House, you care about butter-and-bread issues for Americans and for Minnesotans.

Remarkably, when some Americans link terrorism to Islam, they forget what their own polling shows.

Read how opinion polls are manipulated here:

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2119

Please stay in the course and God bless you.

Mr. Ellison:

It's unbecoming that a small number of Americans are still stuck at your faith; they better move on. Watching you at the chamber of the House, you care about butter-and-bread issues for Americans and for Minnesotans.

Remarkably, when some Americans link terrorism to Islam, they forget what their own polling shows.

Read how opinion polls are manipulated here:

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2119

Please stay in the course and God bless you.

Mr. Ellison:

It's unbecoming that a small number of Americans are still stuck at your faith; they better move on. Watching you at the chamber of the House, you care about butter-and-bread issues for Americans and for Minnesotans.

Remarkably, when some Americans link terrorism to Islam, they forget what their own polling shows.

Read how opinion polls are manipulated here:

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2119

Please stay in the course and God bless you.

Mr. Ellison:

It's unbecoming that a small number of Americans are still stuck at your faith; they better move on. Watching you at the chamber of the House, you care about butter-and-bread issues for Americans and for Minnesotans.

Remarkably, when some Americans link terrorism to Islam, they forget what their own polling shows.

Read how opinion polls are manipulated here:

http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2119

Please stay in the course and God bless you.

To Rep. Ellison - outstanding.
Given the present course of our country, it seems fitting to address the concerns of our Muslim friends here and abroad, and I congratulate the Honorable Representative in his sense of clarity of the issues at hand - they are, in fact, simpler than one might find them at first.
The Constitutional Rights of Americans, regardless of religion, race, origin of birth, or creed, must remain paramount in our nation's collective will, or we are indeed "divisable" -this division of souls in the spirit of hate and ignorance will surely come at the most ignoble price - our liberties, and the Supreme Justice we seek to enable.
The Representative spoke of "peace" and "shared-prosperity" - while I myself tend to embrace such concepts, in the spirit of man, I am also aware that in these troubled times, a great deal of the public trust is handed to the pundit, as well as the propagandist - rarely the statesman whose words need be heard! The Representative was quite eloquent on these matters - but I should very much like to expound on this particular one...
Peace and shared-prosperity in America today seems like an impossibility - if not the mad ravings of a Communist Manifesto - but I think it wise for the people to consider that not all lands are "brimming over" with good things like America - many of the Muslim nations have economies that, at least the wealth of which, depend on oil, and because of same, much blood is shed in the name of greed.
This may seem sure madness - and if one were to witness the carnage and mistrust in these lands, one would surely prefer a sound peace - that said, remember, Mr. And Mrs. America - so much of this war is based on greed - it may be that many will take the stand "Let's take their lands, and their oil, and their government!" - we certainly seem to, for better or worse - but this I remind you - The North American Free Trade Agreement did much to enrich our nation in time, and did so peacefully - yet, the people were angry, frightened, and violent to the notion of a shared prosperity in this hemisphere - so we fight in others... without peace.
Love thy neighbor... indeed.

For Mr. Ellison only,

As with all pro-Muslim commentators especially those bred, born and brainwashed in Islam, you missed the important issue i.e. the flawed foundations of Islam and all the flawed foundations of contemporary religions.

Please peruse the following followed by your own critique of the flawed foundations of religions:

A synopsis reiterated many times because of its importance:

1. Abraham founder/father of three major religions was probably a mythical character. If he was real, he was at best a combination of at least three men. 1.5 million Conservative Jews and their rabbis have relegated Abraham to the myth pile along with most if not all the OT.

2. Jesus, the illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter possibly suffering from hallucinations, has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth. Analyses of his life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, On Faith panelists)via the NT and related documents have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian/Jewish/Pagan sects.

3. Mohammed, an illiterate, hallucinating Arab, also had embellishing/hallucinating scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the Koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers , the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers , the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani koranics, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases and the Filipino koranics with most of this misery being funded by the third Axis of Evil aka Iran.

4. Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingy thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) - "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centred and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’"
The caste/laborer system and cow worship are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

"However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circumstances of his life.

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/BUDDHISM/SIDD.HTM

Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations/embellishments and myths surrounding the founders of said rules of life.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus for an analysis of Jesus' life to include his illiteracy.

This is the table before the Lord.
Ezekiel 41.
Like I was saying, distinguished guests,countrymen......
Damn, son, only hallucinators vote! The least in my district.. well, you can say he was a friend of mine... God save.

I don't know this man or his ideas. I don't care if he's a muslim. I'd have strong reservations if he were also an arab. he may be for all I know. But for the time being I trust him more than a fundamentalist like Bush who hates Jews and blacks, or a mormon like Romney. Where are the moderates? Where are the progressives? Obama that's where. Barack Obama in '08 for G-ds sake.

"American Muslims are an asset to the country, not a threat. Unfair suspicion and profiling does not serve the national interest or honor our hard earned reputation as the beacon for civil and human rights around the world."

Mr Ellison: "American" muslims are no asset. You are the enemy and a supporter of Salafist terror, like the friends you keep. No amount of sophistry on your part can deceive anyone with any blood in his brain.

To Anonymous: July 27, 2007 11:16 AM

“You are known by the company you keep.”

I can imagine your shaved head with a hood on top of it. When is the next meeting?

To Anonymous: July 27, 2007 11:16 AM

“You are known by the company you keep.”

I can imagine your shaved head with a hood on top of it. When is the next meeting?

It wearies me to hear constantly from minority Congressional figures how they must speak for their religion or other minorities rather than for the American citizen constituents they came there to represent. One Mexican-American Congressman from Illinois was found to have spent 80% of his time traveling back and forth to Mexico!
As a taxpayer, I am paying these jokers handsomely for their nice trips overseas, and their luxurious offices and lambchop-luncheons while they whine about how mistreated they are while working out in the capitol gymnasium. No wonder Congress has a 14%approval rating!

It wearies me to hear constantly from minority Congressional figures how they must speak for their religion or other minorities rather than for the American citizen constituents they came there to represent. One Mexican-American Congressman from Illinois was found to have spent 80% of his time traveling back and forth to Mexico!
As a taxpayer, I am paying these jokers handsomely for their nice trips overseas, and their luxurious offices and lambchop-luncheons while they whine about how mistreated they are while working out in the capitol gymnasium. No wonder Congress has a 14%approval rating!

response to: (Jason Pappas July 27, 2007 11:09 AM)

You're a little bit selective there, in your recollection of history. First, heard of the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Holocaust, and Manifest Destiny? Arguably, ALL were done in the name of Christianity. Also, it's interesting to note that the Eurocentric "conquest" of North and South America included the closest that any group in world history has come to achieving genocide. In terms of the percentage of Native Americans that perished - no other event has come even remotely close. Secondly, I'm no historian, but it's a generally accepted notion that the Roman Empire fell because it overextended itself. I'm not particularly religious myself, but after seeing the film "The Message," I was convinced that -militant- Muslims are diametrically opposed to what Mohammad was about. It's also interesting that Christians expelled the first Mulims from Mecca, and that is why the latter return there in remembrance. Similarly, the modern radical "religious right" of the Republican party really has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus. They tend to pick and choose parts of the Bible that justify hating anyone who doesn't conform to their very narrow definition about whose religious beliefs should be tolerated. Democrats are doing an outstanding job at proving that you can be religious, without being dogmatic. Stickland in Ohio won half of the evangelical vote last year; Kaine, who was a missionary in South America, won in one of the reddest of states; and Ellison is proving that you can be a public servant, without being Christian. Republicans have a big problem with thinking in terms of black and white. I always find it ironic that they frequently demonize others who aren't fundamentalists, though they are hesitant to label rightwing-extremists who bomb abortion clinics, as terrorists. That's their Wonderland world, where hiding in the Texas National Guard during wartime is more patriotic than going halfway around the world to fight an unpopular war. The more extreme, divisive, and reactionary the Republican party gets, the easier it will be for Dems to have pickups in Congress and the White House next year.

opression-baloney-islam has brought this on itself-since the assassination of bobby kenndey its been one freak show after another-munich etc......bin laden is just the tip of the iceberg-people are fed up with a political ideology hiding behind the veil of religion its time we have a real debate about islam and its role in a free and open society

Dear Keith Ellison
Islam phobia propaganda has been painting all muslims with the same brush . Alqadee and Taliban are not Islam while they are introduced to others as real muslims . it is impossible to say that a religion with 1.5 billion followers allows killing of innocent people including children and women . these barbaric behaviour is out of islam and real muslims must shout against terrorism lauder and lauder . we are anxious to welcome you in Tehran – Iran . With best wishes .

You should NOT be expected to speak on behalf of the world's Muslim population, but being a Muslim I do think people should expect you to have an insight into the role that the Muslim religion has in: (1) creating the problem in the Muslim world, and (2) solving the problem. I am convinced that your religious leaders are the only ones who can deal with the jihadist movement, not the U.S. government. My government can only defend us against it, not change the thinking of hundreds of millions of Muslims about what is acceptable behavior when you disagree with people or the policies of governments.

My concern about Islam in America is about the 25% of young American Muslims who believe that suicide bombings are an acceptable tactic to use against those you have disagreements with.

Bravo Congressman Ellison! As someone born and bred in Virgil Goode's district (also the earthly home of Thomas Jefferson, ironically enough), I would like to take this special opportunity to reiterate Congressman Goode's status as brainless varmint and xenophobe interlocutor extraordinaire. Ellison, you have too much class to be anything but courteous to such troglodytes, but truly if he and his ilk had their way, America would be nothing more than a post-apocalyptic theocracy full of people living on roadkill possum and canned beans.

Don Key, the Crusades were undertaken after 400 years of attacks by Muslims on Greek and Eastern Orthodox Christians. The Greek Church asked the Latin Church for help. We Greeks were fighting the Islamic imperialist forces continuously for 800 years until the fall of Constantinople. The rest of your ignorance isn’t worth addressing. Please do read some good books on history. By the way, you can start reading about the Crusades in the Encyclopedia Britannica:

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9110241/Crusades

1) It's "first out of the chute," not "shoot". Freudian?

2) "For Muslim Americans, the United States is the land of opportunity." Yes, but what sort of opportunity? An opportunity to break ancient cycles of tribal and religious repression and raise their kids in a free and open society, or an opportunity to agitate for sharia law while funnelling cash back overseas to Hamas and Hezbollah? Your elbow-rubbing with CAIR and recent statements appearing to equate Bush to Hitler make the answer to this question less clear than one would like from a U.S. Congressman, even for a Democrat.

Did you notice that S Shei differentiated between Americans and Minnesotans? I am certainly glad that I got out of there five decades ago. Do I need a passport to go there now.

Ellison is probably a pretty nice guy but his religion is one of hate (do you beat your women?). Only Minnesota, with its screwed up politics, could elect a guy like him. The only more screwed up area in the country is Michigan's 14th where Conyers has his home page in arabic (little "a") and Spanish (a legitimate language in the US)in order to keep his arabic speaking homies happy. He caters to them by trying to enact legislation putting islamic radicals in a protected group thus sending Americans to prison for using their freedom of speech rights. He has to do this so he can keep sucking out of the government trough (oops, may be a reference to pork).

I hope that Ellison doesn't hook up with Conyers. What a tag team that would be. These guys want "Honorable" in front of their names. What BS!

I found Congressman Ellison's article to be refreshingly candid and interesting. I consider myself a liberal-centrist, and though I have a very religious background, don't consider myself religious at all. That said, religious tolerance definitely has a place in America. I wouldn't say that America is a "Christian nation," per se, but Christianity is the majority religion. Still, if you stop and think about the fact that most of the world is non-White, non-Christian, and poor, it will change the way that you perceive people of other religions. I find it ironic that George W. Bush promised to be a "uniter," yet America is virtually as divided as it was, in terms of political polarization, during the Civil War. As long as one's religious beliefs do not result in violent acts, people should live and let live. As the saying goes, "It's the economy, stupid!" George W. Bush has only made 3 vetoes during his six years in the White House - ALL of them opposing the majority of public opinion, and 2 of them related to a social issue. The bottom line is that Democrats now have chance to start mending the national division that Repubs created with their Republican revolution against the Middle and working classes. Change takes time, but having a non-Christian in Congress is a symbolic step in the right direction.

Since when Islam became the beacon of civil and human rights? In Saudi Arabia Christians cannot build a church or publicly hold a bible study. In Afghanistan an "apostate" had to be flown from prison during the night to save him from being lynched. In Jordan a woman was lynched for refusing an arranged marriage and on and on.The honorable representative needs to know that saying that Islam is this or that does not necessarily make it so.

Ellison has used the analogy of Hitler and the Reichstag fire in referring to the United States. A man of his monumental ignorance has the right to say anything he wants becasue he lives in the United States, but rational people are under no obligation to listen to crackpots.

Ellison has used the analogy of Hitler and the Reichstag fire in referring to the United States. A man of his monumental ignorance has the right to say anything he wants becasue he lives in the United States, but rational people are under no obligation to listen to crackpots.

Jason Pappas:

Let me clear up a misunderstanding there, Jason. As I stated, I'm rusty on the specifics of the Crusades. Again, I don't claim to be historian. I'm assuming that you're Christian and biased against Muslims. It's a free country. The point I intended to make is that throughout history, Christians have not been completely innocent of murdering in the name of religion. In fact, I'm somewhat opposed to organized religion in general. Unlike many conservatives, I don't see the justification in hating someone for their religious beliefs. That has no place in a Democracy --- a great thing that came from Greece.

America is about equal opportunity, competitive enterprise and individual human rights, not religious tolerance, but rather religious agnosticism, not fairness, goodness knows the world including the US is not a fair place in all cases at all times. This man Ellison is a liar, pure and simple. He was just on televsion clearly implying that it was Pres Bush and his crew that benefited from 9/11 and therefore there is some clear implication that the President was responsible for 9/11. Anyone who watches that tape knows exactly what this liar was implying. And this guy wants anything but religious tolerance, he was and is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan and is racist program for the US.

The fact is that is is Muslims that are primary agents of most terrorism in the world, whether it is here as on 9/11 or in Israel and Iraq every day. It would be unbelieveably stupid for our people or law enforcement to disregard that fact when we are looking for terrorists. Maybe the electorate in his part of Minn. is stupid, but the rest of America is not

Dr. Don Key
well said . thank you

congressman, i wish you the best of luck, i watched you on Cspan and you were great. the best of luck . and dont give in to pressure from the ill-informed.

Mr. Ellison, you are my congressional representative and you are a class act, sir.
I wish I could say the same for everyone posting comments here, but sadly some
of them are ignorant racists and xenophobes.

> Ellison is probably a pretty nice guy
> but his religion is one of hate

As a politician, the likelihood is that he is *not* a pretty nice guy, except on the surface when it is to his advantage.

As far as his religion goes, aren't most if not all religions religions of hate? Clearly, at best, they are delusions.

What's most impressive about Mr. Ellison's situation is that he won an election. Some whites voted for him. Some Christians voted for him. I'm sure even a Republican or two voted for him. By doing so, they essentially said, "This man's religion will not impede his ability to represent this district." The bottom line is that people fear what they don't know. Like I always say, it's harder to hate an entire group, when you know someone from that group. Most of the anti-Muslim rhetoric and sentiment comes from rural areas, where the only minorities they see are in the movies. If you've grown up in a relatively large city, race, gender, religion, national origin, etc. aren't really an issue - because you encounter a diverse sampling of people in your everyday life. The Internet is bringing people together, and hopefully it will also result in more religious tolerance. I like to think that that spirit is what the founding fathers had in mind.

As far as I am concerned, most religions in most places at most times in history have been responsible for some of the worst atrocities ever committed by human beings. So reading some of these comments, it's almost laughable because all the authors have to do is look at the glorious history of the western christian church. It's just as easy to cite a litany of specific instances where unspeakable acts were carried out by benevolent Christians in the name of almight God.

That being said, the bigger issue is the other "faith" that most of us unquestioningly imbibe as fact, namely that the US gov't is a force for unending good in the world and that it always seeks to defend human rights and liberties all over the world. The day we stop believing in that fantasy is the day we all become enlightened rational beings...that is to say not any time soon.

Greeks...the most over-rated people in the history of humanity. That's all I have to say about that.

Dr. Don Key, I appreciate your comments, but I would like to clarify that MOST of Ellison's support came from white Christians. It had to, because his district in Minneapolis is predominantly white and Christian.

On another note, I am disturbed by the hateful, ignorant, and slanderous comments being posted here by some people.

Hello you Honor, Brethre(s0 Ellison, Sistar(s) et al;

VOTE, in the U.N. for: The O.U.R.-BOOK! a/k/a The Book of OUR, O.U.R.= One-Universal religion System! And the NEW NAME for "Allah/G-d/Yawah/Adonoye/Lord/ is called eponymous ECLAT!

The Dictionary word "Eclat", best word to explain the Holy No Man, means "A Brilliance Bursting Forth.." a/k/a (Allah)Eclat + "i" (you) via a System Of Miracles & never was a Sin to be born in a "naked" suit, and or come from Coochy Poochy so to speaketh as if one must have sexual Complexes or Guilts or awareness, or the one whom said, "LET-THERE-BE-PHOTONS" and the creator of the FIAT-LUX!and thus

Contrary to all PRE-APOCALYPTIC (Pisces-Age) man made, never Allah, faiths/Religions/Belief System(s) that the "Creator" "Your lord G-d/Allah" and by many names , is in fact Non "Jealous" & thus fearless! So Talking about freedom of religion & Thought!? Wow! SO;

You need to go APOCALYPTIC! Meaning belief into the NEW-SONG via the joint G-d Made & Man Made created "OUR-BOOK", a/k/a the O.ne U.niverse R.eligion system. Notice the end of Pluralistic Faiths (All are POLY-Theistic anyways) and the Beginning of the genuine PLURAL Faith. (True MONO-theistic). And this New-Song will be both PUBLIC & PRICVATE Friendly! Ya Ya, IT (Eclat/G-d) Philosophy gets even better!

Important: On Mr. Jimmy Carters recent Blog (seq Passim) I've explained to the World (excuse sentence structure & typos) On how to proceed, in such an endeavor, via the World-Faith-Exchange, International “Votary Association” via PURLIEU's & more!

Specifically on Upholding & making Honorable the "TEN-FIATS" of The new Song, created from All Five Major religious Pre-Apocalyptic Song(s), thus ushering-in the APOCALYPSE-AGE (Aquarius-Age,) and followed by "the 60 words that will change the world forever People-Wise" and hence: The REVELATION (opposite of secret ages) is here. Same as PROPHECY (looking you in the face to grasp & enjoy, else?).

Note: Apocalyptically defined:

REVELATION is opposite of Secret! And

MYTH is opposite of truth! So, here is some "Umma" [Manna] for you and America & friends for "Future Bound" and "Space-Forth" Holy Cosmic Loving & Feeling Eclati-on(s) as HUMATES (Citizenz of Space-Ship Tellus) and whom must live in genuine & innate (G-d Made, not man) GRIDARION-DEMOCRACY?" having OUR-BOOK and a "HUMANITY-DOCTRINE" TO Cherish;

Hint": Think of the "Grid" in Air waves & the 'Double Hellex" as the SYSTEM for Governing & assuring "Immortal Government".

Wherefore: WE NEVER DIE! here is a Eclati-On Peom called:

Resurrection On The Rebound

Since G-D said, LET THERE BE LIGHT, which is the FIAT LUX,
The expansion of the Universe (Innate Constitution & Laws of nature are OUR "Clauses") has caused a thermal parade
in Temperature {TIME, a/k/a Absolute Hot & Cold 'Mizan". Arabic for 'Balancing") throughout Space and time tyo take place:
which is now 269 (or so) degrees below Zero (0) Centigrade.

However, that "O" is only a Number (thanks To Arabs, not Islam) chosen by humanity On Earth (Tellus) to represent the freezing point of common water (Apocalyptic-H2o), wheras the Point Of absolute Zero in Universal terms, has been discovered to be -273 Degrees C and NO-HOTTER!

Another name for "IT" (g-d "I" + "i" you) is "0" degrees KELVIN" in World Science,
Which means The Expansion of The UNIVERSE has only about Four (4) more degrees Kelvin to go, before everything will INVERSE: And Thus IT is Possible for the dead from graves to Come-out! Ya Ya!

In other words, The UNIVERSE is Expanding till IT reaches the SUPERNATURAL (not Biblical) Point of ABSOLUTE ZERO and History turns around (hence History is OUR Jury) and goes through the Center of ITSELF [G-D at the 5th Dimension of dimensions] SYNERGETICALLY in the Other direction, so that what was "Dead" returns! Ya Ya. See, There are all kinds of ESCHATOLICAL POSSIBILITIES of our Heuristical [Photon essences/Souls]

please see the Apocalyptic Words: PALINDROME & SYSTALTIC CYCLE of the Holy Cosmic Heart beat in and of US-ALL Togetrher forevber With SAOURCE-ONE , thus Fearless & indeed a Nonjealous LORD/ECLAT or WRAMTH OF ECLAT in me & my MEMEMETICs and of US-ALL! Wow.

Praise the Lord/Eclati! G-d Bless "ECLATi-ONITY & OUR-BOOK" and Awareness that 'LIFE IS A MIRACLE" & never was a SIN! therefore: WE NEVER DIE! Just be nice & enjoy all now! AND;

Behold: here is Another Eclati-On Poem:

“There ios NO bitterness, Like that of the devout, Whom believe in a lie (biblio Bolloxed), and Finally Find out. Nor is there ANY strength , like that based on truth, discovered through Long Suffering, in one Youth!”

“People Acquire ALL their PREJUDICES by the age of 18.”

By OUR great Prophet, of Many, & Founder of our “Quantum Entanglement” [this is the holy Cosmic Mechanism of how our Heuristicals , Magmatically & Plasmatically & in between the Photon Frequencies, in and out of OUR Worlds or Planet Hoppings Phenomonon] hence Her Albert Einstein [pbuh].

Please see this link for a teazer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_immortality

P.S. LORD/ECLAT has a Personality/Attitude in Nature, IT (g-d) is, “I Do the Thing, for I have the Power, If I do not the thing, then I + i WILL have Zero power. And;

LORD/ECLAT has a Presence , a/k/a OUR-TRANSFINITY (Your 'REALITY” on the Immortal Holy Cosmic & Eternal Move, never Supernatural or deity), IT's a special Number, called, “G-D's Number as Nature ITSELF or IT: 2.71828. And;

LORD/ECLAT has a HARMINIC-CONVERGENCE as a Sound. Or One Can Hear G-D/Eclat + “i”, and the Vibrationals is at “F” Note Above Middle “C” !

Remember: To “Pray” To Allah/God/Yawah/Hashem/Krishna/Buddha is to “SPEAK” to “I” via “i”. And

To “Meditate” to Eclat/Allah/G-d.. is to “LISTEN” To Eclat/Allah/G-D in us-All , via “i”. And

To “Feel” Source-One/Yawah/Allah/G-D, by many names is to “KNOW” ”I” via “i” And

To “See” Lord/Krishna/Allah/Buddha... is to LOVE our “REALITY” a/k/a OUR Transfinity avoiding Loneliness via (Allah)ECLAT + “i” (you).

Important: In Eclati-ON Holy Cosmic Feelers Faith {like Father Einstein was & is, pbuh] never say the word “AMEN (Christians) or AMON (Judea) or AMEEN (Islam)! You are, in dillusion, Praying to a Half man half beast relic of Pagan Egypt & Hellenist too. And;

Never take Eucharist/Communion, a/k/a Symbolic Cannibalism & Vampirism. And

never accept Water (Pre-Apocalyptic knowledge) as Symbolicall as if truly blessed via a Man calling such “HOLY-H2O”!

P.S. ALL HUMATES are Pre-BAPTIZED via the MAGMAPERCOLATION & Also Pre-CONFIRMATIONED! So there goes part of your NEW-SONG and New Philosophy and Manna from Heaven. Enjoy this Space-Ship! Note: Sister LUNA, Brother MARS, Cousin TITAN, including Mother/Father SUN will also go Poof-TIME (Temperature).

Important, OUR Star System has died once before and is been recycled, like US, from past, is now, fure & Beyond. Hence, Eclat + “i” is about ETERNITY AVOIDING LONELINSS in and us All , together forever with Source-One, via the LAW(s) & ORDER(s) of IT's own NATURE that's Cosmic JUSTICE Following ITSELF (G-d) eternally so to speaketh, and more good tidings.

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Dr. Don Key,

I am not in a rural area and I have daily contact with people of all faiths and I find that those of the islamic faith are the most hateful. The children, born here, of the immigrants and those that are immigrants themselves hate us. Unfortunately I can't tell you where I work but I see this every day. I suggest to them that they go and take up arms against us in Iraq or Afghanistan if they feel things are so bad here. Of course, they won't and try to change the subject. I don't let them and they will finally walk away.

Dheeraj is correct when he writes about "...a litany of specific instances where unspeakable acts were carried out by benevolent Christians in the name of almight (sic) God". He is also correct when he says that it is a fantasy that the US should carry our message for truth, justice and the American way. It won't work. We have enough problems at home. Let's get those boys and girls in uniform back here and get to work righting our ship.

Don Key, your assumption that I’m a Christian is completely incorrect. I’m not religious in the slightest. I am, however, a vociferous critic of Islam – not Muslims since that is a nominal label of those who may or may not practice their religion – but of Islam, a very problematic religious ideology.

The example of Mohammad is one of a tyrant who plundered, slaughtered, conquered, and oppressed. The example of Jesus is one who “turned the other cheek” and “loved his enemies.” I find the both problematic when followed.

Of course Christians haven’t always followed the example – particularly when they commit atrocities. And Muslims haven’t always followed the example – when they’ve been peaceful and accepting of rational secular individual rights … or perhaps will be someday.

In either case, it is our rational secular philosophic Greco-Roman heritage and the extensions of this tradition in the Enlightenment that has created the sustainable liberal order we find in English-speaking nations. We are a republic – a constitutional representational democracy with protections for individual rights. It’s a tradition that is alien to Islam’s theocratic totalitarian mindset.

But I fear I may have lost you. Have I?

Looks like someone is off their meds.

why u do not take the chance and play a role between americans and peoples in the middle east??
i mean dialogue between people and democratic forces not administrations.

this is what he believes. right from the koran. hate, torture, kidnaping, cutting off body parts, rape, slavery, and lets not forget murder to force you to accept islam and murder to make you continue to accept islam.

To Muslims the Koran is the very word of God, who spoke through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad: "This book is not to be doubted," the Koran declares unequivocally at its beginning. Scholars and writers in Islamic countries who have ignored that warning have sometimes found themselves the target of death threats and violence, sending a chill through universities around the world.
The Hadith No. 284, The Muslim, volume one, says that any Jew or Christian, who heard of Muhammad but did not convert to Islam, and died in disbelief, would rot in hell! Thus Islam withdraws from all Jews and Christians the right to believe in their faiths, and practice them as such.
"The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolators shall be in the Fire of Hell therein dwelling for ever; those are the worst of creatures. But those who believe, and do righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures..." (XCVIII: The Clear Sign: 5)
Here those Jews and Christians, who spurn Islam, have been lumped together with the idolators such as the Hindus, and classified as 'the worst of creatures'. Therefore the Koran commands:
"O believers, take not as your friends those of them, who were given the Book before you, and the unbelievers, who take your religion in mockery and as a sport..." (V: The Table: 60)
"The true believers say: Has not God ordered a chapter that commands the holy war" (Sura 47:22); or elsewhere: "Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, imprison them, besiege them, ambush them" (Sura 9:5); and, "Make war on unbelievers" (Sura 9:29). "When you come upon unbelievers, massacre them, tighten the bands of the captives that you will have taken. Then you will set them free, or you will release them for a ransom" (Sura 8:57).
"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:57). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation. And those who resist Islam and its founder must be chastised, according to the Koran: "Here is the fate of those who fight Allah and his messenger: you will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country" (Sura 5:37).
"Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them" (Sura 47:22). THIS ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE PEACE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE WAR AGAIN LATER.
4.89": They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
"4.90": Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them.
"4.91": You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority."

Congressman Ellison, I think that is speaks volumes about the American people, especially Minnesotans, that you, a practicing Muslim, have been elected to public office in the wake of the tragedies unleashed on them and the rest of the world by misguided fanatics in the name of Islam. It is not the first time nor is it, I fear, the last time such atrocities will be perpetrated against innocent people by evil men in the name of religion. I am proud that you have found acceptance among your peers in congress and that you are able to serve the American people who have placed their trust in you.

I do have one request of you. All Americans need to see Muslim Americans openly opposing the madness that has brought mistrust into our lives and led to the acts of dishonor perpetrated by ill-informed Americans against persons perceived as Islamic. Please use whatever influence you have within Muslim communities to encourage them to be openly indignant toward those who have hijacked Islam and used it to fuel hatred, violence, and warfare. I'm sure you recall that the vast majority of Christian Americans were adamantly and vocally opposed to the violence and terror that wracked Ireland during the last century in the name of religion. It was the majority Christian Americans who also delivered Europe from the horrors perpetrated by the Nazis in the name of restoring a nationalistic pagan religion.

Muslims need to not only show non-Muslims their indignation over Islamic terrorists, but also those Muslims who perpetrate violence on one another in the name of Islam. The violence that is tearing Iraq apart is the result of Muslims murdering Muslims. Regardless of what brought the warring to Iraq, the solution that will bring it to an end is for Muslims to refuse to kill in the name of God. That is the ultimate blasphemy! To quote a common Christian cliche, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." That holds true, even in Islam.

I opposed Dick Cheney's unholy war on Iraq. I am incensed that the blood of America's finest is being poured out to satisfy his personal grudge over the 1991 war. As much as I wish for it, though, pulling out will lead to a bloodbath the likes of which the world has never seen. Darfur and Rwanda will not even come close. It will even exceed what Sadaam has done. Unless Muslims can convince Muslims that hatred and murder in the name of God is evil, the future is bleak--and, yes, it may lead to nihilistic wars that will engulf the globe. That will be Armageddon.

Muslims have brought upon themsleves much of the persecution they experience. In addition, I was once a Muslim and I know it is the goal of many Muslims to impose Islam on the world including America.

Yes, "America is about religious tolerance, inclusion, and fairness" in its noblest expression. But is a faith, Islam, that seems to be about intolerance and exclusion in a disturbing percentage of its practioners truly worthy of being perceived itself accurately as about "religious tolerance, inclusion, and fairness". I would ask Mr. Ellison about his position on whether is permissible for a Muslim to convert to another faith without fear of punishment? This is likely to happen in
a religiously tolerant society like America. My understanding that this is considered a captital offense by the majority of Muslims in the world. Am I wrong?.....I hope I am! Are cartoons pocking fun at Mohamed tolerated without undue distress by Muslim Americans because of the value placed by Muslim Americans on American freedoms articulated in the Bill of Rights? In my opinion, Islam would easily fall into place harmoniously with all the other varied religions freely practiced in American if its practioners would focus on truly exercising and promoting "religious tolerance, inclusion and fairness" within their own faith rather than complaining about why other faiths apparently do not.

Ex-Muslims have been warning us.

Ibn Warraq has told us all we need to know about Islam in his excellent book “Why I Am Not A Muslim.” Walid Shoebat, a former Islamic terrorists turn Christian, has written “Why I Left the Jihad.” Read it!

Ali Sina, the proprietor of the internet website “Faith Freedom International” has written about it extensively and has helped Muslims escape Islam. Mark Gabriel, a former Imam, tells all in his “Islam and Terrorism.”

These brave Muslims and ex-Muslims risk their lives to tell us the truth. These are the men we should applaud.

Please: STOP your "PRE-APOCALYPTIC" Behavior! Please Think APOCALYPTIC and your negative Energy's will be Alligned, and thus you will be One & as Powerfull as Lord/Eclat ITSEL! Ya Ya Me Dear Sistar(s) & Me Brethren(s) in Cyber Space & in the Reali Space, here on SPACE-SHIP Earth & Beyonmd! be Eclati-On, Never Eclati-Off, unless you are scared of Truth, hence Transfinity, a/k/a your Immortal Reality!

And let’s add Ayaan Hirsi Ali. A brave Somali-born woman who has discovered our great secular tradition of toleration and individual rights. He tells us what we need to know in "Infidel."

For her efforts to reform Islam, Irshad Manji earns our respect.

Rep. Ellison should have asked Glenn Beck to "prove" he's not a bigoted WASP trying to inmitate Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity!

Rep. Ellison seems to be a fine man, and he posesseses obvious skills of self expression. I'm sure that his constituents made an excellent choice in electing him to the United States Congress.

My guess is that he must get tired of being identified almost exclusively as the "Moslem member of Congress." His faith is part of who he is, but he is more than that, and it's a rather minor factor in how he discharges his elected role.

If he had assumed office sixty years ago he would have been identified as the "Negro member of Congress," and that distinction would be just as relevant to who he is in his role as a Congressman as his faith is today. The fact that his skin color now seems irrelvant to his political office shows us how far we've come on the issue of race.

None-the-less, Mr. Ellison is given this space here today primarily because he is a Moselm, and a Congressman. The implication is that "here is a Moslem a credit to his faith," just as sixty years ago the subtext would have been, "here is a negro, a credit to his race."

My point is that the very fact that this article is here is evidence of a soft form of bigotry. It's featured because we need to be reassured that in most ways Congressman Ellis is just like the rest of us, no matter what we might otherwise think.

Rep. Ellison seems to be a fine man, and he posesseses obvious skills of self expression. I'm sure that his constituents made an excellent choice in electing him to the United States Congress.

My guess is that he must get tired of being identified almost exclusively as the "Moslem member of Congress." His faith is part of who he is, but he is more than that, and it's a rather minor factor in how he discharges his elected role.

If he had assumed office sixty years ago he would have been identified as the "Negro member of Congress," and that distinction would be just as relevant to who he is in his role as a Congressman as his faith is today. The fact that his skin color now seems irrelvant to his political office shows us how far we've come on the issue of race.

None-the-less, Mr. Ellison is given this space here today primarily because he is a Moselm, and a Congressman. The implication is that "here is a Moslem a credit to his faith," just as sixty years ago the subtext would have been, "here is a negro, a credit to his race."

My point is that the very fact that this article is here is evidence of a soft form of bigotry. It's featured because we need to be reassured that in most ways Congressman Ellis is just like the rest of us, no matter what we might otherwise think.

Rep. Ellison seems to be a fine man, and he posesseses obvious skills of self expression. I'm sure that his constituents made an excellent choice in electing him to the United States Congress.

My guess is that he must get tired of being identified almost exclusively as the "Moslem member of Congress." His faith is part of who he is, but he is more than that, and it's a rather minor factor in how he discharges his elected role.

If he had assumed office sixty years ago he would have been identified as the "Negro member of Congress," and that distinction would be just as relevant to who he is in his role as a Congressman as his faith is today. The fact that his skin color now seems irrelvant to his political office shows us how far we've come on the issue of race.

None-the-less, Mr. Ellison is given this space here today primarily because he is a Moselm, and a Congressman. The implication is that "here is a Moslem a credit to his faith," just as sixty years ago the subtext would have been, "here is a negro, a credit to his race."

My point is that the very fact that this article is here is evidence of a soft form of bigotry. It's featured because we need to be reassured that in most ways Congressman Ellis is just like the rest of us, no matter what we might otherwise think.

Great article.
Go for it Keith!

George...chill...three of the same posts?