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This guy does not know what he is talking about.
His Islamic knowledge is incorrect.
It is people like this who gives Islam a bad name, because they do not know what they are talking about and only want to please the west.
When the quran says that there is not compulsion in religion it means that no person can be forced to become a Muslim as your belief is from within.
But the Islamic religion says that if a beliving Muslim openly denounces that he is no longer a Muslim then the penalty is death, but firstly the person must be spoken to and tried to be brought back to Islam.
July 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 11:03
Jihad means 'struggle',and struggle means 'kampf',and 'my struggle' means 'Mein Kampf'.
Ich werde Der Konig von Welt sein.Ja.ja,naturlich.
Deutschland uber alles.Ja,Islam uber alles.My struggle,Mein Kampf.Ja,naturlich.
July 24, 2007 1:13 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 13:13
Apostasy in Islam (Arabic: ارتداد, irtidād or ridda) is commonly defined as the rejection of Islam in word or deed by a person who has been a Muslim.
All five major schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that a sane male apostate must be executed. A female apostate may be put to death, according to some schools, or imprisoned, according to others.
and if you become a jew, christian, hindu, or anything else you have insulted islam as the following is what islam thinks of you.
Qur’an Chapter 2 Verse 65:
And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (Jews): We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
Ishaq: 250
The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised.
Tabari VIII: 28
When the Messenger approached the Jews, he said, ‘You brothers of apes! Allah shamed you and cursed you.’
Qur’an Chapter 5 Verse 14:
From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent to them: so We estranged them, with enmity and hatred between one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what they have done.
Qur’an Chapter 5 Verse 41:
…Jews, - men who will listen to any lie…For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.
Qur’an Chapter 5 Verse 82:
Strongest among men in enmity (hatred) to the believers (Muslims) wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans.
Ishaq: 262
Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse.
Qur’an Chapter 5 Verse 51:
O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.
Qur’an Chapter 3 Verse 28:
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah. [This verse teaches Muslims not to make friends with unbelievers, but allows them to feign friendship with unbelievers in order to prevent harm befalling themselves]
Ishaq: 364
Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.
Sahih Muslim Book 037, Number 6665:
Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire. [All Muslims are saved from Hell because a Jew or a Christian will go to hell in their place]
July 24, 2007 4:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 16:20
why do islamics lie - because they are told by the koran to lie.
i dont say what islamics have to believe - i quote the koran and it says what they have to believe. you keep thinking you are dealing with christians and the bible and how they can pretent it means anything they want it to mean. islamics have no such ability as the koran forbids it.
and some want to call me a bigot for saying what the koran says? what do you call a group of people that want to kill those not part of their group - they are bigots - THEY ARE ISLAMIC.
and then you want to pretend that islam is just so peaceful and nice. there has not been a single day since moho first started his war of conquest that islam has not been killing someone to advance this death cult. that is how it was originally spread. its not like islam has been peaceful as tibet for the last 1399 years and all of a sudden a few people have been acting badly and all the others are just so nice.
and to the fool that gave us the link to an islamic site where islamics say that islamics are just such great people. but you forget that islam specifically tells other islamics its ok to lie - especially to non islamics.
The following quote demonstrates the broadness of situations in which the prophet permitted lying. "The sons of Adam are countable for all lies with these exceptions:
During war because war is deception,
to reconcile among two quarreling men, and
for a man to appease his wife."
The principle of Al-Takeyya - The Arabic word, "Takeyya", means "to prevent," or guard against. The principle of Al Takeyya conveys the understanding that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventive measure against anticipated harm to one's self or fellow Muslims. This principle gives Muslims the liberty to lie under circumstances that they perceive as life threatening. They can even deny the faith, if they do not mean it in their hearts. Al-Takeyya is based on the following Quranic verse:
"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:
except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.)
But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." Surah 3: 28
According to this verse a Muslim can pretend to befriend infidels (in violation of the teachings of Islam) and display adherence with their unbelief to prevent them from harming him. Under the concept of Takeyya and short of killing another human being, if under the threat of force, it is legitimate for Muslims to act contrary to their faith. The following actions are acceptable:
Drink wine,
abandon prayers, and
skip fasting during Ramadan.
Renounce belief in Allah.
Kneel in homage to a deity other than Allah.
Utter insincere oaths.
The implications of the principle of Al-Takeyya
Unfortunately, when dealing with Muslims, one must keep in mind that Muslims can communicate something with apparent sincerity, when in reality they may have just the opposite agenda in their hearts. Bluntly stated, Islam permits Muslims to lie anytime that they perceive that their own well-being, or that of Islam, is threatened.
In the sphere of international politics, the question is: Can Muslim countries be trusted to keep their end of the agreements that they sign with non-Muslim nations? It is a known Islamic practice, that when Muslims are weak they can agree with most anything. Once they become strong, then they negate what they formerly vowed.
The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam's image and make it more attractive to prospective converts.
They carefully try to avoid, obscure, and omit mentioning any of the negative Islamic texts and teachings.
An example of Islamic deception is that Muslim activists always quote the passages of the Quran from the early part of Mohammed's ministry while living in Mecca. These texts are peaceful and exemplify tolerance towards those that are not followers of Islam. All the while, they are fully aware that most of these passages were abrogated (cancelled and replaced) by passages that came after he migrated to Medina. The replacement verses reflect prejudice, intolerance, and endorse violence upon unbelievers. In conclusion, it is imperative to understand, that Muslim leaders can use this loop-hole in their religion, to absolve them from any permanent commitment. It is also important to know that what Muslim activists say to spread Islam may not always be the whole truth. When dealing with Muslims, what they say is not the issue. The real issue is, what they actually mean in their hearts."
as i have previously said - who cares what is in the heart of a man trying to kill you or your family? the last line only concerns islamics and tells them that their fake god will know they are just lying and dont really mean it.
July 24, 2007 4:24 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 16:24
"Muslim women view modesty..." So as a Muslim man, you are in a good place to speak for them?
So, it is “forbidden to insult or defame [a] Muslim’s belief”, *forbidden*? And the punishment? You cite the "best" response, but you do not state that a violent response is unacceptable. So, you want to keep your options open?
I guess we should be happy that you state that suicide bombers are wrong, that is, if & when they cause injustice or chaos.
July 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 17:21
farooq-
im not sure of where you get your knowledge of islamic law.
there are several different levels of apostasy- the worst and last is the level where one leaves islam, and then goes to an enemy state or entity and reveals secrets to it that entity that result in the deaths of muslims.
it is not an issue of leaving, but of betrayal and treachery.
in america this is called treason-
in america there is only one indisputable penalty and that is death.
in islam there are two optional penalties.
one is death, the other is exile.
so now you know.
joeovercoat- why didnt you post the whole comment?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Muslim women view modesty and respect in terms of a certain style of dress. This specific style is not a sort of discrimination against Muslim women, but rather a view of a common human and universal value, which is modesty, in their own way." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
thank you for flying to my defense.
since i AM a muslim woman - ill say, well yes yes and yes.
i completely agree and the brother is amply qualified to speak ABOUT the modesty of his siters.
so he is speaking truely ABOUT us, not FOR us, and quite competently.
he has aptly expressed his knowledge ABOUT what his sisters feel about modesty.
thanks for the concern.
peace
July 24, 2007 7:35 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 19:35
VICTORIA:
you are so wrong about treason in america. the last executed for treason was the rosenbergs who gve the atomic bomb to the ussr.
toyko rose got 20 years for treason. its not always death.
and in islam banishment is not a punishment. remember the convert in afghanistan - they were going to execute him - he was not banished - he had to find another country to live in or he was going to be killed if he stayed where he was.
i found this - but so did you - you just want to pretend it does not exist.
Apostasy in Islam (Arabic: ارتداد, irtidād or ridda) is commonly defined as the rejection of Islam in word or deed by a person who has been a Muslim.
All five major schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that a sane male apostate must be executed. A female apostate may be put to death, according to some schools, or imprisoned, according to others.
July 24, 2007 8:32 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 24, 2007 20:32
Ahh, Victoria "the Muslim" who is basically a peace-loving Buddhist.
July 25, 2007 12:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 00:16
well anonymous who is afraid to back their words with their name-
yes, the punishment for treason in america is death.
there was never any evidence for treason by tokyo rose.
the worst she was found guilty of was propganda.
you are simply wrong in your statement about apostasy in regards to islam.
July 25, 2007 1:13 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 01:13
حرام عليك يا أخى كفاية بقة هو أنت مابتفهمش للدرجة دي أمال بتقول "أنا مابفتيش يا جماعة " ليه
حسبى الله ونعم الوكيل فيك وفى أمثالك
July 25, 2007 7:11 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 07:11
Amr Khaled is not professor of holy Quraan or vocabulary Arabic language to give the world he is miraculous theory ,, my favor for him to go back for he is right business (accountancy ) that is better for him to build he's secular name. Or go study the vocabulary Arabic language to know what the meaning When the Quraan says that there is not compulsion in religion..
NOT;-
There is many thousand of big professional exegesis of quraan in all the Islamic nation,, So impossible to any one of whom reserve the holy quraan and some of prophet hadis as Amr Khaled become professional of exegesis easy,, Because of debility them theory and knowledge of islamic that what help for development the cavity beggary the right cognition about Islam religion and west intelligence..
Also I think is better for every one to seat on he is pew size !!!!!!!!!
July 25, 2007 9:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 09:09
Amr Khaled is not professor of holy Quraan or vocabulary Arabic language to give the world he is miraculous theory ,, my favor for him to go back for he is right business (accountancy ) that is better for him to build he's secular name. Or go study the vocabulary Arabic language to know what the meaning When the Quraan says that there is not compulsion in religion..
NOT;-
There is many thousand of big professional exegesis of quraan in all the Islamic nation,, So impossible to any one of whom reserve the holy quraan and some of prophet hadis as Amr Khaled become professional of exegesis easy,, Because of debility them theory and knowledge of islamic that what help for development the cavity beggary the right cognition about Islam religion and west intelligence..
Also I think is better for every one to seat on he is pew size !!!!!!!!!
July 25, 2007 9:14 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 09:14
first of all mr.amr khaled is not an evangelist
he is an accountant
he is especialist in islamic history ,even this his sources are not agreed to all really islamic historian scientists
he depends on stories most of it are not true (alot of scientists said that)
all young people (youth)who listened to him no nothing at all about islamic religion bacause their culture is europien and american
so every thing he say is believable to them
and they thought these ideaes are the true islam
exactly like you think and believe now
so i wonder why donot you believe like them
July 25, 2007 9:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 09:16
Amr Khaled
is not professor of holy Quraan or vocabulary Arabic language to give the world he is miraculous theory ,, my favor for him to go back for he is right business (accountancy ) that is better for him to build he's secular name. Or go study the vocabulary Arabic language to know what the meaning When the Quraan says that there is not compulsion in religion..
NOT;-
There is many thousand of big professional exegesis of quraan in all the Islamic nation,, So impossible to any one of whom reserve the holy quraan and some of prophet hadis as Amr Khaled become professional of exegesis easy,, Because of debility them theory and knowledge of islamic that what help for development the cavity beggary the right cognition about Islam religion and west intelligence..
Also I think is better for every one to seat on he is pew size !!!!!!!!!
July 25, 2007 9:35 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 09:35
(4-104) Lo! We reveal unto thee the Scripture with the truth, that thou mayst judge between mankind by that which Allah showeth thee. And be not thou a pleader for the treacherous;
According to the Quran, the prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was instructed by God to follow the Quran laws that are written in perfect words; moreover, the Quran warns the believers from following any books that would contradict its laws, and even following the verses that was revealed for a specific situations, and not following the decisive ones that are the basics of God’s laws.
He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding (3- 7).
In the previous Quranic verse, and many other verses, God warns people from following verses in the Quran that were revealed to give the prophet certain guidance in a specific situation. But once the situation ends, the special guidance should not be followed, but the original one—the decisive—becomes the law.
In some verses in the Quran, the prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was instructed to fight back the Jews and Christians who allied with the unbelievers to fight Moslems and end their religion (They drove the prophet and his companion out of Macca).
Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). (9:4) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (5) And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (6) How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty.
9: 29Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
Thus, God ordered him to claim back Macca (as he ordered prophet Moses to fight the people who lived in Jerusalem). This was a specific order for specific situation, but once was over the decisive verses becomes laws. The following are some of the decisive ones that speaks about Christian and Jews and other issues, which Moslems have to follow or they are not Moslems (true believers of God)
He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. (3) Aforetime, for a guidance to mankind; and hath revealed the Criterion of right and wrong. Lo! those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. Allah is Mighty, Able to Requite (the wrong). (Quran-sora 3-verse 2)
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.(5-44)
And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil). (5-46) Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers. (5-47)
6-151. Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.
17-33. Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).
29-46. And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
2-178. O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude, this is a concession and a Mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty.
2-190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
2-194. The prohibited month for the prohibited month,- and so for all things prohibited,- there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.
5-2. O ye who believe! Violate not the sanctity of the symbols of Allah, nor of the sacred month, nor of the animals brought for sacrifice, nor the garlands that mark out such animals, nor the people resorting to the sacred house, seeking of the bounty and good pleasure of their Lord. But when ye are clear of the sacred precincts and of pilgrim garb, ye may hunt and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah. for Allah is strict in punishment.
5-8. O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.
2-208. O ye who believe! Enter into peace whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy.
5-32. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
60-8. Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
10-99And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?
A warning message to the prophet to not force people into worshiping God.
10-100 And it is not for a soul to believe except by Allah's permission; and He casts uncleanness on those who will not understand.
2-256 There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
July 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 25, 2007 10:19
But these women don't have a choice as to how they dress in most Islamic societies. It is imposed on them. In Iran, the women don't want to dress this way but they are forced to do so by the regime!
July 26, 2007 9:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 26, 2007 09:09
I'm a Christian but I feel I need to comment that some of the posts here have crossed the line from civilized to hateful and there is no need for the personal attacks.
July 31, 2007 1:32 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on July 31, 2007 13:32
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته : ألاستاذ المحترم عمر لا أعرف ان كان يجب ان ارسل على هذا الموقع او غيره لكني بحاجة الى نصائحك القيمة لأستمد منها القوة والاصرار لأني أشعر باليأس الذي يدمر حياتي فقد منٌ الله عليَ بالاسلام منذ اربعة عشر عام وأنا أعيش مع أهلي مقيدة امارس طقوسي الدينية سرَا وصار صمتي مدمر يهدد حالتي النفسية ولم يكن بامكاني أن أتزوج شخص من دين اهلي ولا أن أتزوج مسلم لأن ذلك يعرض حياتي للقتل وأن حتى الان صابرة أنتضر لعل الله يمنُ على اهلي كما منَ عليَ بالأسلام لكن كلما مر الوقت اكتشف إنهم يزدادون تمسكآ بدينهم إن عمري ألآن تسعة وثلاثون عامآ أصبح شعوري بالأحباط يهدد حياتي الصحية لا استطيع ترك أهلي للعدة أسباب احدها اني لا أقدر ان افارق اخي اليتيم الذي ربيته بعد وفاة والديَ ولا اعرف هل استمر بالضغط على نفسي وأعيش كأسيرة ارجو منك النصيحة وليوفقك الله .
August 3, 2007 10:20 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 3, 2007 10:20
salam
9abla coulichaie ismi mohamad mo9im fi españa ourid idnaka bilbadi fi ba3d al asila antadiro ijabatak
a3anaka lah
August 27, 2007 4:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 27, 2007 16:03
salam
9abla coulichaie ismi mohamad mo9im fi españa ourid idnaka bilbadi fi ba3d al asila antadiro ijabatak
a3anaka lah
August 27, 2007 4:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 27, 2007 16:03
salam
9abla coulichaie ismi mohamad mo9im fi españa ourid idnaka bilbadi fi ba3d al asila antadiro ijabatak
a3anaka lah
August 27, 2007 4:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 27, 2007 16:03