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Reality is reality,and the supernatural is another word for the imagination.And the imagination is where Heaven is, and gods live.Any god you like.
Any smart adult should be able to see right through the world's oldest scam,which is what religion is.
The clerics,priests and pastors know that keeping the sheeple believing in a god is great business; a wonderful way to get rich.They are rolling in dough.
Allowing our children to be indoctrinated into believing in magic,so that the clerics get rich is immoral.

It is truly amazing that so many that discount 'Creationism' cannot see their own minds and hands- and how nothing can come from either without forethought, design and all that these attributes encompass. The spirit that man posesses, let alone the wondrous works of our mechanics and anatomy, were not mistakes, flukes, or a 'boom'. Nor did we come from slime or monkeys.

What a great day it will be when those who deny a creator God will be enlightened with the reality that He exists.

"Let McCain specify exactly what in what part of the Christian tradition moves him ..."

The part that moves him is whatever is in favor at the moment with politically active right-wing "Christians".

Janet,
Ask 1000 Joe Blows on the street who there reps were and 990 of them would not know.

The Joe Blows on the street have no idea how many votes it takes to end a philibuster or to have a presidental veto proof vote. (do you?)Do you know that the onlyt veto Bush made when the repubs were in power was against stem cell research? Do you know he has vetoed every important bill since the Dems came into power and that 67 votes are needed in the senate for a veto proof bill? And dems only have 51. So tell me what is the fix? More of the same...or more Democrats?

They have no idea about how a bill is passed or even what the Constitution says.

Joe Blow likes 15 second burbs...nuance and explainations confuse them...that is why Faux News and Billo have such good rateings. It's so much easier not to have to think and to research.

Hillary may not be my choice, I don't know yet...But I do know that Hillary on her worse day (trying to get health care for all citizens)...is better then any and all the rethugians running. At least she is a strong woman that took all the power brokers threw at her (insurance companies)...and is still standing...and giving it right back.

Why is it Republicans are so afraid of her? A question none have answered...
What did Hillary do that made her so hated?

terra

The act that there is no god is obvious.Grow up.

Politicians notoriously tell you what they think you want to hear, and have done it since Washington I'm sure. Only the feeble minded would believe all they say (a la Hillary Clinton and her million dollar campaign to show you the error of your ways and that she's right about everything), when you choose a candidate you can't choose one that professes this or that. You choose your candidate by who you think can get the most done. Lately politics have been more than a mess. Democrats are in the houses, Republicans at the helm. Result; nothing gets accomplished. It would be the same if reversed. Ask 1000 Joe Blows on the street and you'll get a much better idea about what America wants (and won't get).

After the last 7 years, I have had enough of limited thinking...and that is what Bush's religion is, Limiting. It is not that it is Christian...it is that he is a literal believer in thoughts and laws that fit one group of people 2000+ years ago.

His religion is stifling, it has led to Creationism and it's foster brother Unintelligent Design. It has stopped the discovery of what embryonic stem cells can do, it has brought a museum where it is taught that man walked beside dinosaurs...and that Noah had on the ark two baby dinos. Of course that ark had to carry alot of dinos..after all birds came from dinosaurs, as did horses, dogs and deer...etc. But what is fact when you have to get yourselve out of a corner?

I want a person that is proud of reading "big" books...that reads more then the head line of the news papers, that knows his right hand from his left, and can speak and think at the same time. I want a president that might get a BJ, but won't take us to war...that creates respect throughout the world and not shame.

This president's religion isn't fully at fault for his being a cretin, but it seems to coinside with his being a half wit.

terra

After 9/11 I don't think I can take much more religion.You don't have to be crazy to expect to be rewarded with 72 virgins for such unbelievable savagery.You just have to be seriously religious,
then you can be made to do really stupid things,for good or evil.Depends on your religion.
Enough already.The groupthink is stifling.

There is a case to be made for electing candidates who have solid moral and ethical credentials. The problem comes when we try to find rational ways of determining those credentials.

I think what McCain is attempting, is to use "a solid Christian background" as a shorthand indicium of moral/ethical grounding (rather like a shop owner would infer that an off-duty cop ought to be an excellent hire as a security guard).

But McCain's proposal, instead of providing a safe shortcut, leads us straight into even shakier ground; for he merely substitutes -- for the difficult-to-assess qualities of morality/ethics -- an infinitely more perilous assessment of the individual's "Christian background".

I concur with Dr. Marty that we ought to focus on how the candidate "carries out his duties". This is certainly consonant with Christianity (James 1:25-27, Matt. 25:34-40), but it is also something that we are perfectly capable of assessing independently, without needing to make ANY reference to the individual's professed faith whatsoever.

Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, Atheist ... particularly in the political arena, it is by their works alone that they should be judged.

Vote Ron Paul Vote Ron Paul Vote Ron Paul Vote Ron Paul

"Having said so and done so, however, I'd be very careful about making the religious commitment determinative; the candidate is running for president, not archbishop of ayatollah."

My sentiments, exactly!!!!!

"Abraham Lincoln, the only non-church member but perhaps the most biblically shaped of all our presidents."

The two, non-church and biblically shaped don't correlate well, unless the shaping was away and not towards religion. I'm biblically shaped myself. Direction counts.

Some care is needed here to avoid non-church people doing good deeds, freeing slaves and preserving the constitution. More by miles than Jesus ever did.

McCain is suffering from combat fatigue, all those years at the Hanoi Hilton no doubt. Ordinarily, praying in the presence of war is counter productive - takes the mind off the business at hand - causes one to focus too much on being killed and not the job to be done killing the enemy. That's much less so in a POW camp, a reasonable speculation.

Thinking about http://www.hoax-buster.org makes evangelical heads hurt and dampened the impact of Devil worshipers on politics? McCain is like a salmon swimming up stream without not knowing why.