Quite honestly, what the founding fathers believed says very little about our country today. In fact, it says very little even about the choices their children, grandchildren, and descendants have made.
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July 2, 2008 8:50 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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listen to your spirit? or listn to the dust......
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May 14, 2007 2:18 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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man has a balance. that balance is what was created by the inseperable ignorance, selfishness, primitive, and orderless ways.
in nature,..man tends to live off a need, that ''need'' is the balance. both good and evil as you labeled, is both founded by words 13, 14, 15,17. That circle eternal, drives man to either good or evil. so if you look at it right, its the same. what evolutionist,satanist,realist,christian
can tell you it has not sinned? or has.yes the bible was written by man, as as it dictates, men are liars, but in terms that are taken, the instinct of man is to exagerate, a truth bent.
No one will ever know but maybe, a quite''few things were stripped to negotiate the truth thus destroying its purpose before it even pierced
mans heart.this purposless babble sickens me,
hold your right hand up and tell me,who creates this destiny? ....what matters is if you feel gd is their, dont even bother with the topics.
if you feel hes not here, then dont bother feeding your selfish instinct, in nature it is what dust embodies,.. dominance and each other.
you wont listen, will you?......
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I never understood why some otherwise intelligent people want to mix religion and poilitics. They are the two most controversial subjects that people get excited and divided over. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if they were combined.
Although I believe in God, I do not belong to any particular faith. Especially not the Christian or Muslim faiths. Both religions base their dogmas on stories written by ordinary humans hundreds of years ago. If Christ was alive, then why did he not write the "word of God". And I question why not anyone of his family wrote anything about him. And why is the Bible comprised of a few gospels, when a lot more of them exist. Either all gospels are the word of God or none. You can't pick and choose.
In addition, I find nothing appealing about the violence in either the Bible or the Koran.
December 18, 2006 6:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 18, 2006 18:08
I find it both interesting and frustrating that Darwin keeps coming up in these discussions. I'm not going to try to defend natural selection, other than this: Just because something contradicts a literal reading of scripture, doesn't mean that the thing is automatically wrong.
December 18, 2006 10:22 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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Just Wondering,
When someone else wants me to change my religious beliefs, even for the best of reasons, I perceive that desire as a threat to my mental independence. To me, the desire means that I have to change who and what I am to please some other person. I'm not saying that is the evangelist's intention, I'm saying that it is the effect of the evangelist's actions on me. I suspect that many other people have the same reaction that I do.
"It is tragic that so many have hijacked the name 'Christian' for about two thousand years by judging others, pressuring others and murdering others. That's just not my definition of Christianity. It's wrong."
Excellent point, and thanks for bringing that up. Still, to focus only on unchristian behavior is to miss the point, in my view. The hateful concept of hell for unbelievers is an inherent part of the dogmas of both Christian and Islam. To me, that completely negates anything the dogmas say about love or happiness. I believe that the hell concept can only be about scaring people into obedience. Any dogma that would do that does not care about people's happiness.
I'm trying to defend my idea that all religion is personal. I strongly suspect that the "secret of life" is different for each person, that each of us is on a different journey toward happiness. I question the idea that any believer can know what God wants for anyone but the believer. Why? Because anyone can have an agenda for me that disagrees with what I want for me, and the other person is capable of claiming an endorsement from God for that agenda. I see no reason why I should take the other person's word for it.
December 18, 2006 8:42 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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Just Wondering,
You call Christianity "Good News". Sorry, but I don't see it that way.
You think that the universe was created by a cruel and sadistic imitation of a male human being, who created us as sinners from birth, knowing full well that he would end up torturing most of us for eternity.
The "wonderful gift" is that you get a "get out of hell free card" if you belive that he sacrificed his own son to himself just to show everyone what a nice guy he is. That really makes a lot of sense.
If that's the good news, I don't want to know what the bad news is!
December 18, 2006 7:11 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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Tonio:
By saying that you only condone religion that involves "only the believer", you ignore the heart of the Christian faith, which is the spreading the good news with others that a personal relationship with God is possible. It is tragic that so many have hijacked the name "Christian" for about two thousand years by judging others, pressuring others and murdering others. That's just not my definition of Christianity. It's wrong.
If someone truly believes they have found the secret of life, why wouldn't they want to share that with others? If I hated anybody, I wouldn't be on this board. I wouldn't care about anyone else. Only true love for others would motivate someone to share that good news with others.
So, where have some prominent Christians gone wrong in America? First, they have forgotten that their calling is to selflessly serve others over self. Second, they have chosen to try to force Americans to become Christians, instead of respecting their freedom to choose. Third, they have decided to focus on their own discomfort in a culture that does not always reflect their values, and have attempted to bully Americans into changing to adapt to their morals and values.
Simply stated, Christians are called to model Christian love for others. So, Tonio, would you be tolerant of a Christian like me who would speak to you about his faith only because he cares enough to share this wonderful gift with you?
I'm Just Wondering
December 17, 2006 10:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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"You might be wrong, however, in wanting me to restrict the expression of my faith to the confines of my church on Sundays. My faith is who I am, and I can't turn it on and off. I have the right to free speech, and you have the right to walk away."
Just Wondering, in answering to your comment, I seek to make a distinction between religious beliefs that involve only the believer and religious beliefs that involve other people. The former is no one else's business, but the latter is most definitely their business.
The dogmas of both Christianity and Islam condemn unbelievers to hell. One does not have to believe in hell to recognize that such teachings are outrageously hateful. Those teachings attempt to define other people as evil and worthless. Why does any religion have to have such a teaching? I know that Christians also define themselves as sinners, but that isn't relevant. To define people is to control them, and I deeply resent anyone or anything attempting to define me.
December 17, 2006 9:48 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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This entire thread is silly.
December 17, 2006 7:41 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 17, 2006 19:41
Mr. Wolfe:
I think you are absolutely right about two things you just wrote and absolutely wrong on one issue.
You are absolutely right that:
- Christians should not try to take over elections.
- Christians should not try to take over the Supreme Court.
You might be wrong, however, in wanting me to restrict the expression of my faith to the confines of my church on Sundays. My faith is who I am, and I can't turn it on and off. I have the right to free speech, and you have the right to walk away.
That's where I am puzzled. Are you really posting all these comments to shut us up, or is there more? Are you really sure it's all silly nonsense? (I thought that for the first 38 years of my life, and now I know better.) Maybe you're still searching and don't realize it yet?
Still Wondering
December 17, 2006 7:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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"Just wondering":
If you self-professed "Christians" would confine yourselves to practicing your nonsense in your churches, I would be only too happy to drop the subject. But since you are determined to "christianize" the country, to make belief in the "Christian" religion a litmus test for election to public office, and to make sure nobody but a "Christian" sits on the U.S. Supreme Court, you have set me on my present course, which is to prove by documented evidence that your "Jesus" is a myth, that your bible consists entirely of fiction that reads as though it was written by a lunatic in a mental institution, and that what is happening in this country is undermining the principle of separation of church from state and, moreover, is madness. - BHW
December 17, 2006 7:18 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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To Burton Wolfe:
Why have you spent so much time and energy refuting the existance of Jesus? If you don't believe, just walk away. You're in a free country.
I'm just wondering. Could it be that you can't let it go for a reason? Like maybe you sense somewhere inside of you that there IS actually some truth to what we Christians believe? Maybe you're working so hard to convince YOURSELF that it's not true.
Just Wondering
December 17, 2006 6:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 17, 2006 18:12
Tinio, does the Devil want people in hell?
December 17, 2006 4:14 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Question - do most people who claim that the US is a "Christian nation" have an interest in seeing Americans convert to Christianity?
December 17, 2006 3:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Justin, you're not ASSUMING all that about some first century person are you? Don't you find it odd that this first century person has a -1,350 or thereabouts name?
All history is fiction based upon facts for it is impossible to fully describe anything significant in writing. What else did they get wrong?
If a more accurate version of history was presented to you would you recognize it or have you memorized that which is false and now cling to it like a drowning man to a straw? I believe that's a question everyone must answer before teaching absolute truths.
Poorly written perhaps but at least asks the question and makes some attempt to explain, http://www.hoax-buster.org/learninglies The one thing we can say for sure what with all the "faiths" is that more than a few have gotten the story cockeyed. Cockeyed story, often found in the presence of the confidence, "man of faith."
December 17, 2006 12:13 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Louis illustrates why Christianity, or any religion, should not be supported by a nation. He sets out to determine who is or who is not a "real" Christian. These religionists be they Christian or Muslim are out to put people into two camps... those who are and those who are not.The consequences are deadly.
They do not unite, they divide.They do not create peace, they cause conflict. They should be ashamed of holding such positions. They are not apart of the solution, but the problem itself. It is racism based on belief instead of skin colour.
Reality shows us that all of humanity, no matter what they believe, are one. The struggle is to reach justice, equality, and fairness while still recognizing and encouraging individuality. We all need to breath clean air, drink clean water, and live in peace.
December 17, 2006 11:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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This is always a confusing subject. I suggest a distinction has to be drawn between the idea of "nation" (a collection of people, a demographic) and "government" or "state" (as defined by the U.S. Constitution). Technically the U.S. is a "christian nation" in that the majority of its citizens say they are "christian" when polled.
Of course the Constitution intentionally and clearly draws a distinction between any and all religions and the government, separates the two entities and, by law, prohibits the recognition of any religion above any other religion by the state.
So, while most Americans say they are Christian, The United States of America is not a christian state.
Yes, we want people to be free to "believe", they also have to defend those "beliefs" when they express them publicly. Believers give up the right to private articles of faith when they force the rest of us to listen to them. Free speech means I get to ask you to prove your assertions. If you can't, then they have no currency in the marketplace of ideas.
I must say, your column is almost incomprehensible.
Enjoy a warm and safe winter holiday season!
December 16, 2006 9:01 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 21:01
Corrections to my previous post:
The sentence re what is to be found in Pliny's First-Century history should have the word "prominent" in front of "persons."
As for the URL provided, I notice that when you click on it you are taken to one of the thousands of foulups that you come across in the search engines. You will just have to type the URL into your web address bar if it interests you - http://burtonsbooks.com.
- Burton H. Wolfe
December 16, 2006 6:44 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 18:44
Justin:
No writings attributable to "Lucian" or "Porphyry" or "Polycarp" exist. The references to purported writings of theirs have all been dismissed by all bonafide scholars, and only "Christian" quacks keep trying to perpetrate these frauds on gullible humanity.
There was no such person as "Celsus." He was an invention of the early Catholics, who have been responsibe over the centuries for some of the most outlandish frauds ever perpetrated on humanity.
There is no such writer as "Talmud." The Talmud is a body of rabbinic writings that interpret scripture and discuss Jewish law and philosophy. There have been attempts by "Christian" quacks calling themselves "scholars" to establish that a few sections of the Talmud refer to a "Yeshua" who can be connected to the "Jesus Christ" (Joshua the messiah) of New Testament fame. All of those attempts have been thoroughly demolished by legitimate scholars, and nobody but the "Christian" version of a snakeoil salesman keeps trying to perpetuate that hogwash.
No extant works attributed to Suetonius, Tacitus, and Josephus can be authenticated. The original manuscripts and all copies of the originals were destroyed by the Catholics so that they could rewrite them. There are no extant versions of their writings which can be dated earlier than the 11th Century, giving the Catholics a thousand years to revise them in any way they wished. The editions which exist have so many preposterous statements and egregious errors in biography and history and geography that nobody other than a varicose idiot or the quacks calling themselves "scholars", and making a living off perpetrating all of the frauds and forgeries involved, relies on anything in those editions.
In any event, there is no conceivable reference to the major "Jesus" of the New Testament in the writings of Suetonius, Tacitus, and Josephus as they are unverifiably transliterated and translated in modern languages. The purported references to a "christ" that you see in these bogus editions have long been recognized by all bonafide scholars as mistranslations of references to a sect or to a group of sects, the name or names of which can only be translated into English as "messianists" - and nobody can know what sect or sect is being referred to, because there were dozens of sects ranting and raving about a messiah between the years 600 B.C. and 400 A.D. before the Catholics managed to wipe out all of them except their own fraternity (fraternity because no women were allowed to be members) and convince ignorant, gullible humanity that 'Jesus" was the only messiah.
The paragraph in Josephus's history referring to a "christ" figure is known as the "Testimonium Flavianum", which has been used by "Christian" theologians and quacks calling themselves "scholars" over the centuries as "evidence" of the actual existence of the "Jesus Christ" of New Testament fame. It was revealed hundreds of years ago that the paragraph, which the Pharisee Josephus in no way would have written because Pharisees rejected belief in any messiah, was what it remains today: a forgery written by a Catholic censor and dumped into the middle of a story to which it has no conceivable connection. You will find extensive biographies or descriptions in Josephus of several dozen of the most prominent "Jesuses" (Joshuas) of the First Century. You will NOT find so much as a word about the major "Jesus" of the New Testament, though he is supposed to have been the most prominent of all of the "Jesuses" (Joshuas) of the era.
As for Pliny, which Pliny are you talking about, Pliny the Elder or Pliny the Younger? There have been attempts to translate a name in a letter of Pliny the Younger dated circa 115 A.D. to a "christ," though the proper translation is "messianist." The letter cannot be authenticated, and even if it could be there is no way you could tell the messianist to which that Pliny may have referred. On the other hand, Pliny the Elder, who died in an eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 79 A.D. when he went too close in an effort to explore the effects of it, did not mention either "Christians" or "Jesus" or the "apostles" in his "Natural History" which was and remains a veritable encyclopedia of the First Century (usually in 20 volumes). He mentions every other person and every other sect that existed in the First Century, but there is no "Jesus," there are no "apostles," and there are no "Christians," in this overwhelmingly definitive work of his. It is therefore impossible for any rational, sane, intelligent person to believe that any of these characters appearing in the New Testament actually existed, because if they did Pliny - who was curious about and knew about EVERYTHING that went on in the First Century - would have mentioned them if they did exist.
If you and others living in ignorance would take the time and the few dollars necessary to read my ebook, "The Case Against Jesus," you would get thousands of documented details about these subjects, and you would no longer be the misguided people that you are today.
Go to http://burtonsbooks.com, read the book, and educate yourself.
- Burton H. Wolfe
December 16, 2006 5:48 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 17:48
Pastor Palau made a statement of his belief and the attacks begin. "Light came into the world and darkness rejected it" A failure to receive the light denotes the darkness in the receipient. Peace.
December 16, 2006 12:34 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 12:34
Of course this country was founded on Christian principles: early on it hanged Quakers, witches -one is a relative of mine -, and sixteen year olds who relieved their sexual tensions by themselves. And they gave smallpox-laden blankets to native Americans to help clear the areas they wanted, just as they cut down forests for the same reason. The early settlers were thus the perfect embodiment of Christian principles, first cousins of the Roman Inquisition.
December 16, 2006 9:36 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 09:36
Sorry. I added a period to the web address.
Try this one:
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/87
December 16, 2006 2:17 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 02:17
Mr. Wolfe,
Thanks for your openness.
As far as the historicity of Jesus Christ (Yeshua, Joshua, the Christ – the individual who lived in Israel in the first century, claimed to be God, and was killed at the hands of Pontius Pilate), it might be beneficial to look into the writings of Flavius Josephus, Talmud, Pliny, Tacitus, Suetonius, Celsus, Lucian of Samosata, Porphyry of Tyre, and Polycarp. All of these writers come from different backgrounds and religions, and all lived between the 1-3 centuries, yet none dispute that a man named Jesus, who claimed to be Christ and did “miraculous” things, lived in the first century in Israel.
For more info, check out http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/87.
Hope that helps.
December 16, 2006 2:11 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 02:11
I believe the conflict, and impossible resolution surrounding this issue could be a focus on Christ--the MAN; where what matters, and clearly has directed western civilization is Christ,--the PERSON.
The ideals of equality, truth, freedom, peace, love, forgiveness, everlasting life, personal worth and justice can not only be absorbed from the behavior exemplified by Christ;--but can become natural attributes of personal character;---which historically is related to prayer to a God of LOVE!
These entities compose what has perhaps aptly been called the 'human spirit'. Seemingly 'supernatural' character strengths;--surmounting all physical obstacles;--the Roman Empire, the Catholic Church, The Saracens at the Battle of Tours, the Brittish Empire in the American Revolutionary War, WWII; and are the conscious energies that moved our social world toward comfort and compatibility.
Our ascent was not directed by the most powerful;--but by these character strengths;
to me, these are the reflections radiating from Christmas festivities!
December 16, 2006 1:22 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 01:22
To "Bigyim3" and "The Claims of Christ":
I thank "The Claims of Christ" for setting "Bigyim3" straight about my purportedly being a "priest in the Church of Satan." Anybody who has read my web log, Wolfebites, knows that the introduction attributed to me in certain editions of Anton Szandor LaVey's "Satanic Bible" is a forgery. I wrote a biography of Anton, "The Devil's Avenger," and I did him a favor by writing an introduction to earlier versions of "The Satanic Bible." Partly as a prank and partly as revenge for a disclaimer I included in my biography, Anton had his common law wife and amanuensis, Diane Harris (who was never Diane LaVey), send a counterfeit introduction to Avon Books which has me stating that I am a "priest in the Church of Satan," though in fact I am not and never was. HarperCollins, which owns Avon, has since scrapped that introduction and substituted one from a guy who really is a priest in the Church of Satan which survives Anton. Lesson for "Bigyim3": Be careful about making accusations based on information you have not checked.
As for the idea of "The Claims of Christ" that the existence of the major "Jesus" of the English-language New Testament (out of four distinct characters named "Jesus") can be verified by writings outside of the New Testament: what you need to understand is that all of those writings are what are known as exegeses (a wicked nun with whom I had an intimate relationship called them "ex o' jesuses"). An exegesis is an interpretation or explanation of what appears in a scripture. It does not add anything new. All of the writings about the major "Jesus" of the English-language New Testament are nothing more than fanciful extractions from and non-factual expansions upon what is contained in the New Testament, which is the only source of purported information about the major "Jesus." There is no other source of information. If you insist on using the name "Jesus" to refer to a character whose name in Aramaic and/or Hebrew probably would have been "Yeshua," translatable into English as "Joshua," then you will find factual descriptions of numerous "Jesuses" by writers of the First Century A.D. (C.E.). In none of their writings, however, do you find any reference to the "Jesus Christ" of the New Testament who, according to the New Testament, was the most prominent "Jesus" of the era, attracting crowds of thousands wherever he went and causing more attention from Roman government officials than any other "Jesus." And so the question is: If he actually existed and was as important as the New Testament claims, why is there no mention of him anywhere in First-Century literature, which does not include the New Testament scriptures? They were not written until long after the First Century ended and thus when "Jesus" and the "Apostles" would have been dead had they ever lived. There is no extant collection of New Testament scriptures which can be dated earlier than circa 400 A.D. (C.E.) - though there is some evidence that some of the "books" of the New Testament may have been written in the Second Century A.D. (C.E.).
By the way, you may have noticed that for my comments I do not hide behind aliases as do others posting messages on this web site. I use my real name, Burton H. Wolfe
December 15, 2006 11:27 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 23:27
One cannot be a Christian and not believe in Christ's divinity. Beware: evil's entry in our lives begins with an assault on truth.
December 15, 2006 10:53 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 22:53
There is evil in the world. We are being challenged right now. The struggle is eternal. God is the sword and the shield.
December 15, 2006 10:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 22:51
Good thought, Norrie. It doesn’t really say much when someone calls themselves a Christian, yet none of their actions would confirm it.
But, as the Bible teaches in the book of John, the first and most crucial step is belief in Jesus Christ:
“Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”
December 15, 2006 9:58 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 21:58
Being a Christian is not a matter of belief in Christ's divinity. It's a matter of acting as Christ would act. Not many of those folks around. Cetainly not enough to let a country call itself Christian.
December 15, 2006 8:38 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 20:38
The claims of Christ:
The disciple of Jesus DID NOT steal HER dead body. It's been found but not identified. She was burried in a coffin made for her that had the inscription of a male. Those inscriptions were chissled off and thus She was burried in an unmarked coffin.
Her death mask was found in the tomb king Tut, the most famous of all Egyptians Pharaos, Ramases I and II, "conquerors of Israel" not withstanding.
December 15, 2006 7:55 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 19:55
The Claims of Christ:
Please get your identification of supernatural beings correct. I know there are dummies that worship, at least claim to worship Satan. Satan is the "accuser" the one that decides who is elidgable to even go to heaven. That makes Satan God's number one man, boy Friday. The one you have in mind is Lucifer known as "the prince of darkness."
Now I have to tone that down a bit. Turns out that Lucifer won the big fight for control of heaven, he put Michael and the faithful angels into hell along with God and declared himself to be God. Satan became Lucifer's boy Friday, the one that decides who is and who is not a sinner by giving a lie detector test.
I know that's confusing but getting the story wrong can be devistating. In fact we don't seem to have very good choiecs. God lost the big fight for control of heaven and got condemned to hell and Lucifer, the Devil took over heaven. So praying to God is a request to be let into hell while praying to Lucifer will get you into heaven but then it's being run by the Devil. Looks like it doesn't matter, getting past Satan or not.
Worshipping Satan wouldn't seem to make sense. It's Lucifer they should be worshipping, if they want to go to heaven. And they are close. It's the Devil that delivers the goodies right here and not God. God's in hell trying to put the fire out. Satan worshippers aren't getting the goodies for obvious reasons, not praying to the real Devil, Lucifer and are destined to be with God in hell. Bury them in aspestos suits with fire extinguishers.
And you? http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul says you're on track to be with, "the God of your[Moses] father" when you pass on. If you change your mind and want to go to heaven and be with the Devil then practice lying. Satan won't let sinners in and we are all sinners. The president said so.
December 15, 2006 7:04 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 19:04
Mr. Wolfe,
First, I'm sorry that it seems the unfounded claims of you being a member of the Church of Satan are still following you. When something false gets started, it's hard to shake it. You've got to be careful what you spread about others. Interestingly, your situation seems similar to the claims you have against Jesus Christ - claims I believe to be unfounded.
The problem is that your argument against his existence seems to contradict a number of early historians and writers that lay no objection to the claims of Jesus' life, and in fact support the claims in many ways themselves.
Hardly anyone (if any) in the first few centuries argued against Jesus’ existence. There are many writings outside the Bible that talk about Jesus and his life as well. The only argument they did have in the first century was what happened to his body after his death. That was the big question of the day – not whether he existed.
The two arguments were:
1. His disciples stole his body in order to make it seem that he rose from the dead. (Sadly, if this was the case, would you really expect them to be killed for their faith – a faith they knew to be false?)
2. Jesus Christ truly did rise from the dead. If that’s the case, we better look a little closer at who this Jesus was.
December 15, 2006 6:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 18:23
Bigyim3:
You will enjoy this tidbit on Darwin. Yes, humans are also subject to "the survival of the fittest." It's a click away at http://www.hoax-buster.org/sex and advertised to be everyone's favorite subject, religion not withstanding.
FYI I'm the coldest Sveed in the whole darn middle vest.
December 15, 2006 5:49 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 17:49
Richard Dawkins was on Stephen Colbert the other night talking about the New Atheism. There's also a cover article on the New Atheism for Wired this November. With all the religious fascists in the US and around the world maybe it's right to try and establish a religion of reason. If we could end ignorance and superstition and establish a world based on the universal declaration of human rights; that is a worthwhile goal.
December 15, 2006 4:00 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 16:00
Mr. Wolfe,
Just so that people can know your bias:
“Satanism is a blatantly selfish, brutal philosophy. It is based on the belief that human beings are inherently selfish, violent creatures, that life is a Darwinian struggle for survival of the fittest, that only the strong survive and the earth will be ruled by those who fight to win the ceaseless competition that exists in all jungles—including those of urbanized society.”
Burton H. Wolfe, Priest in Church of Satan
Wow, fun outlook on life, Burt. You must be a hoot at parties.
December 15, 2006 3:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 15:51
Luis Palau says "being a Christian is being a committed follower of Jesus Christ." There are two problems with that statement: First, no such person as "Jesus Christ" ever existed, and so being a follower of "Jesus Christ" means being the follower of a fictitious character. Second, as to the precepts attributed to the major "Jesus" of four "Jesuses" identified in the English language versions of the New Testament, there is not a person on this earth who is following those precepts, including Luis Palau. If he wants to challenge that statement, I will be glad to specify the 32 major precepts, listed in my ebook "The Case Against Jesus," that one must follow in order to be a bonafide "Christian."
December 15, 2006 3:37 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 15:37
Dear Mr. Palau:
I agree with some things that you've said. I want to believe that we are Christian nation; however, after reading your article, I see your point. To tell you the truth....even with the many churches we have in this nation, I believe that this nation often go against Christian teachings. This nation is so materialistic, hypocritical, and can become just downright vulgar. What is even more disturbing is that in our churches today, we find so much corrupt behavior. Now I do feel that when you have strong believers, if they pray sincerely they can actually gain favor for their home/home country. In this country, I see that, even with the corruption, we have a lot of praying people who believe sincerely in Christ and his teachings, and they pray for this country..it is their heartfelt prayers that may bring favor or blessings to this country. So, if we seem to be more favored, it is because God has had mercy on us through the requests of Christ-filled people in prayer.
December 15, 2006 3:36 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 15:36