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Lisa Miller is an absolute joke.

What Rev. Wright said was the whole truth, but white Americans only want to hear "partial truth."

Barack Obama now wants to address the race issue without offending whites. It's not possible.

What Lisa Miller does here and elsewhere is damn Rev. Wright without specifically saying what was so "offensive." Was it "God damn America"? Did that so offend Lisa Miller's sensitivities?

What was the context of that remark, Lisa? I know you don't have stones, but tell us, "What was the context?" Was it that God does not bless every drug deal or purse snatcher or anyone else who does evil? And hasn't the U.S. been guilty of evil at times?

So the Context, you moron, was that God doesn't just "bless" America because it's politically convenient. He also damns the evil that is perpetrated by a government that acts, not out of 'GOOD,' but out of it's own self-interest.

You white people just make me sick.

And if that's upsetting to you, that's how upsetting it is to read the kind of nonsense that Newsweek allows to be published in its pages under the guise of "respectability."

What garbage.

I'm not sure why people are so upset with what Rev. Wright said. He spoke the truth. I don't see what he said as being anti-American. You can love the sinner but not the sin. America has committed a lot of sins. That's just a fact, but I love America just the same.

It seems that Americans in general have trouble with being self critical.

I'm not sure why people are so upset with what Rev. Wright said. He spoke the truth.

Please ask Lisa Miller to appear again on FOX. I will be glued to the set! Where have you been hiding her? What a combo of brains and beauty!

Give me a break basically all blacks are suppose to think alike. What blacks are not capable of thinking for themselves, blacks need someone else to think for them? What church do the other presidential candidates belong too? Who is their pastor? Why do blacks always need a black leader? Who is the white leader? Nobody ever talks about that. It not like Rev. Wright was lying about what he said history books supports most of what he says. Lets be honest the whole world is watching and America is being exposed for the fraud it is. We can continue to focus on the man's race and church or we can do something to make America better world wide.

Give me a break basically all blacks are suppose to think alike. What blacks are not capable of thinking for themselves, blacks need someone else to think for them? What church do the other presidential candidates belong too? Who is their pastor? Why do blacks always need a black leader? Who is the white leader? Nobody ever talks about that. It not like Rev. Wright was lying about what he said history books supports most of what he says. Lets be honest the whole world is watching and America is being exposed for the fraud it is. We can continue to focus on the man's race and church or we can do something to make America better world wide.

No way will I give Obama the benefit of the doubt. How dare he speak to America on race. if I were to be at a church that the pastor started spewing hatred towards blacks and Jew's and America. It would only take ma as long as it took to get to the door, to leave. He was an active member for 20 years. Come on can any rational person think he does not share at least some of the veiws of Wright. Between the 2 pastors that are racsist haters and ties to anyone from the Weather Underground, my question is how did he become a senator? Very troubling he got this far.Its an example of how far left and radical some in this country are. I know there are radicals on the right too, I don't want either of them to be President of this great country.

It appears to be a common denominator among some cross accusations in the posts: your church (pastor, priest, rabbi, imam, minister, padre, etc.) have said worse things than mine.

All we are somehow related to a religion. Depending of your age, you have hear during 10, 20 or more years your religion leaders say those things.

Some agree with the preaching, other do not. Some keep silence, others react and say something. Others simply quit, but not before years and years of silence.

The first person that preaches religion to us is our mother or other significant relative, at an age that we even do not understand what this loved person is telling to us. No wonder why is tough to quit, but never is late.

Peace to all and best wishes.

JAC

Wow! you missed the whole point of the anecdote at the end, which is about the elderly black man joining the Obama campaign because of that little girl. The story was about mutual recognition between people, and it is from those moments of mutual recognition (and not a decision to vote or campaign for Obama), that we begin.

And speaking of mutual recognition, that is what we need to think about when we see videos of Trinity church members applauding those statements. Mike Huckabee graciously reached for that mutual recognition in an MSNBC interview.

Some will say, well, you wouldn't ask for mutual recognition if it was a white preacher saying he was unapologetically white, etc. But symmetry is not equivalence.

The kind of "sound bites" that we've seen and heard from Jeremiah Wright only serve to divide the races, not unite them.

Probably none of the current generation of whites have ever employed a black slave and would be extra careful to not appear in any way to be race-biased.

Churches like the one that Wright had pastored should really be encouraged to MOVE ON.

The Issue is Not Jeremiah Wright. The Issue is Barck Obama Running For President of USA, "Promising Change We Can Believe In", while a 20 year activist member of "A Black Power" Organization of Blach Nationalism and Liberation with anti-White Hate. The Black Panthers are members and active in his campaign.

Who do not see the hypocrisy and Contradiction in what Barak says?

Oh there "Reality Challenged", Malaysian Deflawer and Obfuscating Jihadist,

Hmmm, you noted "Some of us do damn our own countries for what we see as failing us, our hopes and aspirations".

And what failings in Malaysia have you damned? Hopefully these failings included the flaws and errors in Islam.

For some strange reason, you always forget these flaws in Islam so again the first four:

1. Believe in "pretty/ugly wingie" thingies and teach your children that such things really exist.

2. Believe that the long-dead Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female passages now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7 800 year-old feud between Sunnis and Shiites give significant credence that suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of anger and greed.

Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

Churchandstatewall: I absolutely agree with you 100%!

Nobody's suggesting that we overlook unsavory comments by Democrat's religious leaders.

I'm *demanding* that we STOP overlooking unsavory remarks by Republicans' religious leaders.

Huckabee got a virtual free ride by the "liberal" media for associating himself with people ten times worse.

Huckabee was also a serious presidential candidate.

If we're going to scrutinize Obama's religious ties, and the wicked things that some have reportedly said, I'm sick and tired of the GOP getting a completely free ride by the media when they sleep with the same sorts of dogs.

Churchstatewall: I agree that some Republicans consort with some pretty unsavory "religious" leaders, however, that doesn't justify overlooking those same issues just because the unsavory "religious" leader happens to be the 20-year "mentor and spiritual adviser" of a Democratic contender for the Presidency.

Wanna know how to get ourselves past the divisive comments of Obama's pastor?

Easy. Pretend that Obama is a Republican. Many Republicans attend churches that preach divisive hate week after week, and that doesn't seem to hurt them. In the "right" parts of the country, that actually gets them elected.

Sometimes, the candidate himself is a pastor in a hate-preaching religious sect.

Take former Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, for example.

Huckabee is a pastor in the Southern Baptist denomination. A very high official in the Southern Baptist Convention, Wiley Drake, has actively been praying for the DEATHS of certain religious freedom activists* -- and the rest of the leadership of the SBC refuses to repudiate him.

Here, we have a high official in the SBC issuing, for all intents and purposes, a death fatwa -- yet this hasn't been brought to bear against Huckabee's candidacy whatsoever.

Yes, indeed, the argument can be made that affiliation with a church can be considered a sharing of values. But the argument ONLY seems to be made when you're a Democrat.

If you're a Republican, your pastor or denomination can house the most vile, hateful leaders -- and nobody utters a word.

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* More info: http://blog.au.org/2008/02/19/the-diabolical-dr-drake-sbc-official-had-more-power-than-sbc-flack-admits/

Perspective: Wright's racism is not necessarily worse or better than any other racism -- it is all bad.

Since when is Jeremiah Wright's racism any different than the white racism we see scattered liberally throughout these message boards?? The flimsiest of rationalizations brings it boiling to the surface. Perhaps it's a good thing for Obama to get the ugliness out in the open fairly early on in the contest. You know it was always lurking in the shadows - two sides of the same coin. I doubt that Hillary will gain much from this, but McCain stands to gain considerably.

The swiftboaters have now got all the ammunition they need for their nasty PR work down the road, should Obama secure the nomination. The country stands to make another phenomenal blunder by conceivably electing McCain as a result of the usual 'dark elements' exacerbating the white fear factor yet again....first it was the fear of Al Qaida in your backyard, and now it's 'black separatism' that's the problem - the absurdity of it is only exceeded by the gullibility of the masses.......

Angela: Unfortunately, Cone did say all of the quotes listed under this thread. This is the basis of black liberation theology, which Obama's spiritual adviser has taught at his church for 20 years.

Alan, I pray that Mr. Cone didn't say that. Please tell me no. This is blasphemy and exhaulting one self above God; telling the potter that he is the clay. Really scary that such things are taught much less in the church. Also, I agree that if you're an African American, people expect you to be sympathetic to hatred. This country will never be free if we cannot get past the color of our skin. We are all human beings and should be respected as such. Also, is it expected that every White person who wasn't even born should be hated for their ancestor's mistakes and that goes for all races; We all have a sinful heritage. It's time to break the chains of slavery and bondage of the mind. Love God and our neighbor (black, red, yellow, white, purple).

God Bless...

Anon writes: "In my opinion Obama is now unelectable--and I am a Democrat."

I thought he took a huge step forwards with his speech because it was incredible and he actually spoke to us as if we were adults. And I'm a Libertarian. Funny how that works.

I feel there is too much hatred in America. I am a white American, but I have countless friends who are African-American. I don't hate them, nor do they hate me. People should be judged by the "content of their character", not by race. I get sick and tired of having to apologize for being born white and trying to live in peace.
Jack

In a set of "talking points" on the Trinity United Church of Christ web site, Wright proclaims himself an exponent of "black liberation theology." He cites James Cone, a distinguished professor at New York's Union Theological Seminary, whom he credits for having "systematized" this strain of Christianity.

Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

All of this is well documented and many find it very disturbing considering Rev. Wright's close relationship with Barack Obama and equally disturbing that Barack will not reject Wright.

You mentioned Cone as Wrights inspiration. I think the author of this article did a disservice by not letting the reader know more about him. To better understand the kind of black liberation theology which Obama has been soaking up for 20 years, here are just some of his quotes: (1) “To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Hello Jerry Hill,

I have no intention of interjecting in this thread, but....

You said : "How do you deal with the church and its remark, "Mother Africa" and its pledge to support it. Trinity is an African Church by mission."

It is held by scientists now that we all (human beings/homo sapiens) originated from Africa and migrated to every land on earth. Hence why not Mother Africa, the mother which gave birth to, and mankind sprang forth and multiply?

By the way, is there anything wrong with any church or secular organisation with a mission in Africa? Many Caucasian evangelical/missionary churches are actively operating in Africa. So is everyone from Bono of U2 to Bill Gates of Microsoft pledging and supporting various humanitarian aid programmes in Africa.

Why take on Trinity Church just because it is African-American, in pledging support to Africa? Jewish organisations do so for Israel. People of Indian origin all over the world do so for India too and sometimes refer to India as Mother India.

Is there anything wrong with Americans not from Europe to connect with, to remember and be proud of the heritage of their respective region of origin? Is not the religious and racial diversity of America a fact of life now? We all have dreams and hopes for our nations. Some of us may be frustrated that the ideals of our nations on paper is not translated into reality for us and thus angered. Some of us do damn our own countries for what we see as failing us, our hopes and aspirations.

By the way, for a wee glimpse on what Africans themselves think on how others think of and regard them, please Google up "How to Write about Africa" by Binyavanga Wainaina. I am sure it there for anyone who care to find and read it.

Thank you and best regards

"J"

Messiah,

Frankly, I don't care what color Christ is. I only know that salvation is in Him and in no other. I would just as easily bow before a black Christ as I would a Jewish Christ.

The best way to end racism is to be thoroughly apathetic about it. When I was a boy I had black, Filipino, Mexican and white friends. You wanna know what father had to say about it? Absolutely, nothing. No talk about the Civil Rights Movement or Martin Luther King. Nothing. Nada. Wanna know why? Because he frankly couldn't care any less, as long as they were good kids. That is how I was raised.

You see, I reject this idea of slavery being my original sin because I am white. Racism is an individual vice, not one that can be assigned to groups. Once you start assigning sins to groups instead of individuals, you perpetuate grievances indefinitely.

That is the problem with Jeremiah Wright. He cares way too much about what everybody's race is.

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Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

"Liberation Theology" did not originate in the Black churches in America.. It came from Latin America and has evolved into a Marxist ideology.

The Black Pastors and Christians I have known for over twenty years want NOTHING to do with this sort of "liberation".

They lead and attend multi-racial churches and work hard to improve the lives of ALL American people.

Please don't judge all Black American Christians by Pastor Wright and his congregation..

Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

How do you deal with the church and its remark, "Mother Africa" and its pledge to support it. Trinity is an African Church by mission.

I must say I'm somewhat alarmed to hear that Newsweek was unable to find a black scholar or preacher who could see anything wrong in preaching racial divisiveness -- or anything wrong in a preacher telling his congregation that their government invented AIDS to kill black people, etc. I went to a black church for a while in college -- but when during black history month I started hearing sermon after sermon about how evil all white people are, rather than sermons about something like, say, Jesus and the way to live a Godly life, I realized it wasn't the place for me. I'm horrified to know that apparently all black churchgoers are supposed to become racist conspiracy theorists on Sunday mornings, not just the church I went to (which I had hoped was an anomaly).

I also question Obama's judgment -- that he'd not only closely ally himself but also choose to have his children subjected to such vitriol, things he now admits are wrong (guess he's not black enough to accept them entirely). Would someone with that kind of judgment be a good leader of the country? Of course, several journalists (black and non-black) have suggested he just joined that church to improve his "blackness" qualifications... It's alarming when either he's a corrupt political manouverer, just like Chicago politicians throughout history, or he actually agrees with all of this (as apparently, according to this article, black people are supposed to). Either way, he's not living up to his promise of post-racial hope and unity.

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Barack Obama's gave one of the most powerful political speech in recent politic history.
The topic happened to be on the racial issues. The speech was inspirational, described in details the modern racial issues from an historical perspective, and will help unit more
americans: not all americans, but more. He laid a big step in the good direction. I would like to hear this type of speech (inspirational, historical and unifier) more often from politicians. I think that Obama would be a great president. He has already a positive impact on America and elsewhere in the world, serving as role model for many people, independently from the race, gender and religion.

Oh mighty Clinton, dost thou lie so low?

I pray there will be a healing between both groups. There are other issues that this nation is guilty of That this country deserves God's Judgement like abortion,abandening God, immorality, idoltry, etc . At the preaching of Jonah to Ninevah to Repent God spared that City. Pastor Wright I think it is better to Pray for this country to come back to God and for healing among our people. Like Abraham he negotiated with God if there are 50-10 rightous people will He spare the city of Sodom and Gamorrah? For the sake of the rightous Lord Please spare us. I can't remember which state was, Was it Virginia that made a public repentance to the Black citizens for the slavery?
I miss my brothers and sisters I've met at some of the COGIC churches in Chicago, Sister Pierce especially who went to Heaven a while back.
We need to stand in the midst of crisis. What can we do to get our economy back on track? If we don't work together, how can we heal?

Well,i just go by what Jesus revealed to me.[santus];He said the blind lead blind and they will fall in a ditch.He said Woe to you who laugh for you shall mourn.He said those who make wages will be toubled!!;Now turn on your tv and watch all the people who trusted in money mourning?The world taught you to cherish material things,but quess what God said,"Do you seek great things for yourself?Do not seek them,for behold,I will bring adversity on all flesh"!!;This is happening right now!!!;And to the person who said his friends would never hire a black person again,you just proved Rev. wright's statements to be true!!!;So,this is why God said"What the world despises I will use!!" AMEN

And God was looking down upon the pulpit and upon His child who was spewing hatred from the stands, under His name, in His church! And He said, 'Son, you and all those who partake of your fruits shall be punished for abusing My just cause. The hatred that you spew in private shall be brought forth. You shall give to Me your community's only real hope, its only real chance. And I shall keep that hope until you purge yourself of the bitterness.' And so it was done!

notice how in his eagerness to be black, not just "half-white", obama doesn't even flinch before throwing his poor white mother and grandparents under the bus at every single opportunity:

* "...and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." - obama
* "...I might have written a different book—less a meditation on the absent parent, more a celebration of the one who was the single constant in my life." - obama

he should have given his "healing" speech to his church when he first heard their hatred, and saved us his lecture!

If all you have seen of Rev. Wright is the clips being shown on YouTube, I suggest that you go to http://www.tucc.org/ and read about Trinity UCC church. Be sure to watch the video of the white woman who is a member of Trinity UCC. Of course, it's much easier and intellectually lazy to get your opinions from the talking heads on TV rather than use "the Google" to look things up for yourself.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Trinity UCC in any way. I do not live in Chicago, and I am not a Christian. I am an Obama supporter, but mostly because I don't like Hillary.

And God was looking down upon the pulpit and upon His child who was spewing hatred from the stands, under His name, in His church! And He said, 'Son, you and all those who partake of your fruits shall be punished for abusing My just cause. The hatred that you spew in private shall be brought forth. You shall give to Me your community's only real hope, its only real chance. And I shall keep that hope until your bitterness goes away.' And so it was done!

I don't believe that we need a racist and a liar who is pro-abortion in the White House. Farewell Mr. Obama.

I don't believe that we need a racist and a liar who is pro-abortion in the White House. Farewell Mr. Obama.

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You Ms. Miller - are a sickening white racist. You allow whites to be racist - yet Scandalize Reverand Wright for speaking the truth.

What about Jerry Falwell and all of those white pastors for whom racism is status quo and unchallenged by the likes of you?

Are you so cynical as to deny that hate begets hate?

Reverand White's viewpoints don't emanate from an abyss - they are a reaction to white racism.

I am a white man. I am not rich by corporate standards, but I am most certainly rich by black inner city standards. Let me tell you a little bit about my rich white man story.

My grand father immigrated from Scotland to the plains of
Saskatchewan, Canada.The government had offered land in the vast outback to those who could cultivate it. It was three days buckboard ride from the nearest settlement. What you cultivate you keep. You also get near arctic winter. You get the shelter you make. You get the food you provide. The first year you have until winter to go from windy wilderness to shelter and provision. The one you can count on is yourself. The thing that you will count on or die is your character. If you think it wasn’t like this, you are wrong. This is as true as black slavery.

My grandfather did not own a slave, and did not even know about slavery, except back where he came from, which was a land of difficulty, for him. Many have known difficulties. He did not realize that, even unknowingly, he already had his foot on the black mans neck. How or why he chose the black man out of all those closer to his own world that he could have held down, I just don't know. Plain bad luck for the black man. Imagine where the black man could be today, if not for my grandfather.

My father was born prematurely when my grandmother fell off the corral fence. It was hard to keep him alive. There was no one to help.

They came to the United States of America because happiness could be found here by a man with character, for himself and his family.

My father served his country in a humble yet noble capacity. His career was with the United States Coast Guard. A military organization. His job was to save lives even at the risk of his own, and he did. He saved even black lives, and his life was saved by a black man. He did not know that his foot was on the black mans neck. It was bad luck for the black man.

I am sixty years old now with grandchildren. I have ridden on the black mans neck, and held him down, beyond all others, for the sake of my grandchildren, who have no other way through this life (that we all briefly wrestle). They could not make it without the unique stepping stone necks of the paralyzed blacks.

I suppose it is pure bad luck for the black man. The white man made the United States of America. They came in waves. Each wave was persecuted by others. The Chinese were slaves of the railroad. The Japanese were somewhat disliked during and after after WW2. The Vietnamese were or enemies. The illegal immigrants gladly take any work they can. There has always been a line to kill Jews. Where are these people today in the United States of America? They rise, they contribute, their children profit, they are guided by character. They don’t know that they have their foot on the black mans neck.

Bad luck for the black man I suppose.

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March 18, 2008 10:18 PM

Very interesting article, Lisa to see how other Black churches view the statements.

Sad to say in reading the comments you can tell who is white and I guess bringing up the KKK makes it a bit obvious.

Some people will never change or believe in the process of change and are so quick to judge and label people. No one is perfect. I'm not and none of the commentators are either. Obama's a liar and they have neve told a lie or broken the law by speeding? I am also certain that they all have a friend, peer, family member who is racist esp. from the older generation when America was filled with racial inequality. My parents remember being told that only blacks sit in the back of the bus but they could sit in the front or going into a restaurant and being turned away b/c "we don't serve Mexicans here." Note: they aren't Mexican but have a dark tan from working in the sun.

I guess because our culture has diminished personal responsibility, we cannot believe that Obama or anyone else can totally disagree with a friend, family member, etc. A good friend of mine has a brother who went to jail, does that make him bad b/c of guilt by association? My uncle doesn't like white people because he was put in an intern camp (prison) while his son fought in WWII for the U.S. My best friend is white and I have a ton of friends who are white, black, yellow, brown, etc. I don't share the same view as my uncle. But, I also did suffer as he did.

The critics should go to a minority church, live in the hood, walk a mile in the shoes of those they judge so quickly and their mind will open to a new world. There's a much deeper message in Obama's speech that escapes simple minds.

Very interesting article, Lisa to see how other Black churches view the statements.

Sad to say in reading the comments you can tell who is white and I guess bringing up the KKK makes it a bit obvious.

Some people will never change or believe in the process of change and are so quick to judge and label people. No one is perfect. I'm not and none of the commentators are either. Obama's a liar and they have neve told a lie or broken the law by speeding? I am also certain that they all have a friend, peer, family member who is racist esp. from the older generation when America was filled with racial inequality. My parents remember being told that only blacks sit in the back of the bus but they could sit in the front or going into a restaurant and being turned away b/c "we don't serve Mexicans here." Note: they aren't Mexican but have a dark tan from working in the sun.

I guess because our culture has diminished personal responsibility, we cannot believe that Obama or anyone else can totally disagree with a friend, family member, etc. A good friend of mine has a brother who went to jail, does that make him bad b/c of guilt by association? My uncle doesn't like white people because he was put in an intern camp (prison) while his son fought in WWII for the U.S. My best friend is white and I have a ton of friends who are white, black, yellow, brown, etc. I don't share the same view as my uncle. But, I also did suffer as he did.

The critics should go to a minority church, live in the hood, walk a mile in the shoes of those they judge so quickly and their mind will open to a new world. There's a much deeper message in Obama's speech that escapes simple minds.

Race or church was less a factor until Obama focused on race and church in South Carolina and a few other state inorder to achieve a large African American base vote. It was his decision to focus on race and church. Now that the electorate is focused he'd like to lecture them on race. Obama is not colorblind. He's color opportunistic.

Nicely written, thoughtful, thank you.

I don't see how Wright is really any different from any other fire and brimstone preacher. I happen not to believe in an angry god, but plenty of Americans white and black do believe in this god-- and that's the God he was speaking of. It's really not any different than my white fundamentalist grandmother who read to me revelations when I was 7 years old. Hateful stuff, that. But she was the sweetest person I've ever known.

Race is the sleeping monster in this country.

Nicely written, thoughtful, thank you.

I don't see how Wright is really any different from any other fire and brimstone preacher. I happen not to believe in an angry god, but plenty of Americans white and black do believe in this god-- and that's the God he was speaking of. It's really not any different than my white fundamentalist grandmother who read to me revelations when I was 7 years old. Hateful stuff, that. But she was the sweetest person I've ever known.

Race is the sleeping monster in this country.

There is no doubt that there is racism in the "white community" against blacks. But Jeremiah Wright makes it clear that there is racism in his life and church against whites. Neither is any good.

Wright's statements that HIV was invented by the Federal Government for use against blacks, is a simple paranoid rant. This man may have done good works in his career, but teaching fear and hate is no Christian virtue. Taking God's name in vane from the pulpit to damn America is no Christian virtue either. All racists, Christian or not, and of all colors, need to repent of it.

Perhaps Barack Obama can bring the issue to the point where people of good will can openly discuss the full dimensions of the racism problems in America. He has repudiated Wright's bad statements and I hope he can return to his positive and hopeful campaign message. It is much needed.