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"...what makes us cling to
religion is not man-made-- that is the awareness of God within and beyond
us, and the sense that it is for us to try and make God's world, God's
creation, a better place- and that imperative comes from the divine."
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I disagree. There is no reliable evidence supporting these statements -- only faith. You are assuming that we all take what you believe on faith to be fact, as well. Nonsense! Faith in God comes from human desires and limitations we impose on ourselves.

Lets get back to Hitchens...want to see this slimeball get his ass kicked in a debate on the Iraq war:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH_BULU2vcM

Great stuff!

I bet he came up with this new book to divert from his stance on the Iraq war.

What a NEOCON, what a piece of TROTSKYITE scum!!!!!

Permanant revolution, eh? How is it going, Hitch???

Att:" A N A L Y S T, et at;

Great article.

Yes OUR Humates All posses ONE "Frontal Lobe" that also shares IT space with Each Unique "Heuristical" not just Intelligence, morality, Cognatives , intuitions, Emotions * Impulses & Mor.

We only take Our Heuristics that was given before the Magma-triculation and during Life here, on board, (note HUMATES) and after WE each do the Poof-Time-a-Gonna and then into the Plasma-Percolation for another miraculous Echatological Humate (same Gender) Possibilities, from pas, current, future & beyond.

Note: In NewYork Post, (paper print) and on Pages. 4 and 5, there is an article about "The Secrets Of Dark Energy, "What We know about the Universe is about to change.." By: Meg Urry (Women, Astro-Physicist & Yale Professor et al).
"WE are begining an exciting new voyage of discovery..." "Like "QUANTUM Physics", "Dark Energy" May Impact Our Daily Lives.. It already has.."

Note: Eclatai-On's knew Flash Fisrt the Bang.

Eclati-On's knew TIME=Temperature zero Clock. Eclatians know the difference between "Quantum-Entanglement" and "Quantum Mechanics" in Quantum Physics.

Eclati-on's knew "Dark Matter" is the Transport mediam for OURS "Heuristical" & that "Dark Energy" sits always in between our Magma & Plama Interface TRANSFINITY layer of the "Elements of Beyondness" a/k/a "The Non-Gravity Place" or the Miracle Due-To-Be Machine.

Eclati-on's knew that eclat has a Middle "C" & lower "G" Tune or vibrational sound, not to mention G-d's number in IT a/k/.a "e2.7.1828" and so much more.

HARK: Eclati-On(s) are here, so never fear! Ya Ya.

Att: A N A L Y S T, et al; VERY GOOD Stuff. Thank You Me fellow Eclati-On(s)!

This is the Battle: example:

WE Eclati-"ON" vs. Eclati-"OFF's" if you know what I mean Eclati HUMATE(s)?!

Trust, but Verify. This way one is fair minded and gives Eclati-Off's some bennefit of the doubt, but not fully, as History is indeed OUR JURY & Winess in the Matter of Abuse of LOVE & their HUMATE Kind ,contrary to Eclat's innate reasoning , which is taking over, sentence by sentence, line by line, Sura by Sura, Scripture by scripture until ONE-UNIVERSE-RELIGION System is creayed as ONE-BOOK, ONE-GOD, ONE-BIBLE & (9) other names. A/k/a O.U.R.S.. & OUR().

"The Day of Having your (Tribal) "Biblical Cake" (so to speketh) and Eating IT (G-d) is OVER!

Here is a "Eclati-on Poetic theme, as of the Musicolumn as Prophesied:

"There is NO bitterness, Like that of the devout, Who believe ina Lie [biblical], And finally find out [nolonger in denial of reality], nor is there ANY strength [Ones Eclat"i" awareness, Zero biblical, your unique ECLATi Only], Like that based on truth [realising your "miracle bith awareness" is born in ZERO SIN, never man-made biblical], discovered through long suffering, which began in ones youth.."

- "Shiloh" the Photon/Light Bringer, The First (1st) "JOKTAN" of the Abrahamic & King David Line and

NO LONGER or MORE of the ancient Pre-Apocalyptic "PELEG" like yourself, Abrahamic Line according to the Musician, or “Novelist MOSES” & his Character in them Freudian Slips of Genuine Prophecy's & beyond! Ya Ya.

Dear Julia,

I go to my local Catholic Church every Sunday. The ritual and the chanting of repetitious verses leaves me very bored. Occasionally something interesting happens such a sermon that gives us historical insight into the practices of the early Church.

A lot of it is unchallenged myth. My view of God upsets some people. I say that I am not sure that he exists even though I pray to him (and often tell him that I am not sure that he is real).

I think that God has offered us a way of life along with decency and kindness. I do not see him as being interested in controlling or watching over every part of our lives. If things go wrong it is not God who is testing us. Earthquakes can be explained by geologists. Car crashes can be explained by negligence. Arguments arise from our competitiveness and irritability etc. In other words, I believe that God has given us a set of beliefs and a soul but he is not with us every part of the day. I am not sure that heaven exists. I know that dead bodies get buried and remain in the same spot for ever. Our souls are our conscience.

Dear Julia,

I go to my local Catholic Church every Sunday. The ritual and the chanting of repetitious verses leaves me very bored. Occasionally something interesting happens such a sermon that gives us historical insight into the practices of the early Church.

A lot of it is unchallenged myth. My view of God upsets some people. I say that I am not sure that he exists even though I pray to him (and often tell him that I am not sure that he is real).

I think that Gos has offereed us a way of life along with decency and kindness. I do not see him as being interested in controlling or watching over every part of our lives. If things go wrong it is not God who is testing us. Earthquakes can be explained by geologists. Car crashes can be explained by negligence. Arguments arise from our competitiveness and irritability etc. In other words, I believe that God has given us a set of beliefs and a soul but he is not with us every part of the day. I am not sure that heaven exists. I know that dead bodies get buried and remain in the same spot for ever. Our souls are our conscience.

Hi Nalina

"Evidence suggests that humans and some other animals are capable of behaving altruistically w/out awareness of or intervention from anything beyond nature; no evidence has suggested otherwise."

The Post carried a science article today how neurologists are finding altruism is hardwired in our human brain and therefore present in all cultures --and is likely present in (at least some) animals too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701056_2.html?hpid=topnews

Speaking from my own experience, I can say my feelings of altruism did not decline after I determined my childhood religion was based on a foundation of superstition. On the contrary, once I realized this was the "only" life the poor and disadvantaged on earth were going to have -- I felt MORE compassion and a moral obligation to help them, because previously I had sloughed this off as a problem for "God" (who would correct for it in heaven, yada yada.)

Julia Neuberger is not sloughing off the rest of the world as God's problem. For this, I nod my head in respect to you, Ms. Neuberger!

Hi Nalina

"Evidence suggests that humans and some other animals are capable of behaving altruistically w/out awareness of or intervention from anything beyond nature; no evidence has suggested otherwise."

The Post carried a science article today how neurologists are finding altruism is hardwired in our human brain and therefore present in all cultures --and is likely present in (at least some) animals too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701056_2.html?hpid=topnews

Speaking from my own experience, I can say my feelings of altruism did not decline after I determined my childhood religion was based on a foundation of superstition. On the contrary, once I realized this was the "only" life the poor and disadvantaged on earth were going to have -- I felt MORE compassion and a moral obligation to help them, because previously I had sloughed this off as a problem for "God" (who would correct for it in heaven, yada yada.)

Julia Neuberger is not sloughing off the rest of the world as God's problem. For this, I nod my head in respect to you, Ms. Neuberger!

Greetings J U L I a, et al; Huggs to "Piky Dilly Square" et al; AND,

Att: A N A L Y S T, RON, Fijieta, Mark, Bert, NaLalina, STUDENT (Forever of Source-One) ,et al;

Today HUMATE(s) are Aware that The "Religion-Of-Everything" is upon US Now! Not the "Theory Of Everything"! Att: OUR great Prophet [May Extra Photos be at his side et al greats who helped unleash the ECLATARIANITY "Cosmic Feeling Faith" for ALL-HUMATE-KIND, always]

Wherefore: One-Universal-Religion-System, a/k/a O.U.R.S. or "OUR-BIBLE" or "The Book Of Hours" and nine other names. Notice the Singularity besides the Cosmic TRUTH and in ALL IT's Elegence everywhere imagined, prayed to, hoped for, killed for, die for, known or not!.

Thank You. Please see the (Re-Cycled) attached short essay on the LORD-"IT" a/k/a, G-d-"ITSELF" that invited & inbedded ITSELF, via miracle, in ALL Animate & in inanimates stuff, things & IT or ITSELF has a Natural Commandment to follow to a certain end starting from a begining (not Man Made) Law abiding & Loving & Justicfiable Lord, via "Visible & Dark Energy" & via "Absolute Hot vs. Absolute COLD" Balancing of US heuristicals,

as being our current Miracle, thanks to OURs Holy Cosmic Feelings, that IS a Heart Beat appearing in the Warmth of Your Eclat plus you being an "i" as an entity enjoying the Miracle, never a Sin, of "your Eternity Avoiding Lonliness purpose through IT, in 8 + 1 instantanious Quantum Entangled dimentions" (not BANE's) transparent World theory! No!.

WE "Heuristically Come, your eternal soul, so to speak: To this Planet from the MAGMA Life forming "stuff", that is of Many & ALL known & unknown Worlds (Never the same place & your Gender gender never was created nor was IT created]. And ;

We GO: Or Leave this Miracle Photonic mist essence of OURS intelligence stuff, not your eternal Heuristicals, via your unique PLASMA Frequency transformation potential

that interfaces US with the "Visible" Energy Of Ourselves with the "Invisible" Energy for another ESCHATOLOGICAL "Miracle Entropy" Possibilities of OURS unique undestructable "Quanticised Frequency Photon selves".

(note: Biofinite Death is not TRANSFINITE death. Same as OURS REALITY on the forward Deterministic movements, via Atomically, Chemically, Elemental Systems a/k/a A.C.E.S. (never Backwards in this moment of TIME). Thus ours heuristics is what travels between these things. Comming, Staying & Going, leaving all these behind for they are recycled in TIME.

Example: When Grand-Ma/Pa Sun , implodes (fusion), her/him self in another 7 Billion or less and or when WE, via Grand-Pa/Ma Milky Mon Galaxy "Merges" or colesced with Andromedia too in 3Billion years first., But Together, never seperated in TIME, they too have Many eschatology Possibilities like WE do too. Hence: FEAR-NOT Brother(s) Sister(s) on Space-Ship Earth, Sister Luna, Brother Mars & beyond! Praise "Eclat Source-One Holy No Mon Eclaty, Nonjealous & thus is OURS Fearless Lord Folling IT's Own Command and that is What G-d does best.

Note: Eclat does not break His/Her own Laws. And noyhging is external to IT (g-d stuff in you you in IT or ITSELF as an inesapable Heuristical ONE). The Character or attitude or Character of Lord Eclat is THIS:

"I" (Your great Holy Cosmic Eclat) must do the thing, for That is how I get POWER, Else If "I" do not the thing then no power & NO little "i" ether!" Thus "Let there Be Photons, Big Bang, Magma, Animate & inanimate, then Plasma Then Another recreation somwhere wher and when needed by the Due-To-Be Holy Cosmic Miracle Temperature Balancing Machine! A Holy Cosmic Heart Beat indeed.

Explanation: As 95 Watt Light Bulb, having stored Energy, that in fact can never be destroyed that, We always are "ON" (This is why your unique aware Heuristics never sleeps Yet the intel brain does) & WE have a "Channel" (a/k/a OUR Holy Frequency , "Quantum Relativity's") that somehow is attached to US [Heuristic that is superior to intelligence as brain] , And;

Acts as a Holy Cosmic infinite string but can morph into a finite umbilical Cord like We appear for the Cosmic moment via Temperature, not clock time or space time,now also ] Heuristical(s) that are Photonic & Vibrate from the "Quantum Entanglement" to the "Quantum Mechanical" Vis a vis.

As told others; O.U.R.S.=One-Universal-Religion-System ofOURS Miracle as true & Genuine MONTHEISTIC, not Abrahamic nor Vedis in Nature as being OURS own unique Proof so far!

Eclati-On's know that WE have a Cosmic Home-Base.

This is known as the "5th Dimnsion Place (of 9th Max. Dimensions), that has a "Non-Gravity" Cosmic Point" of "Entry & Exits". a/k/a the DUE-TO-BE Photon Placement Machine.

This is also known as OURS "TRANSFINITY" [Your "i" with EClati's Scheme if any as being in Hot & Cold Frequency Balancing Miracle Act] And

This is ALL possible via "Quantum Entanglement" as described by our great Prophet of "Relativity" his Hon. Albert Einstein Et al Greats.

Hint: Momma Poppa Nature has an inbedded number that IT (eclat/G-d) is made-up of. IT is ITSELF; e2.71828. a/k/a "GOD's NUMBER!"

This is proven in both BIRTH as Demagmatizing in miracle, To decaying in Miracle via IT a/k/a TIME or Eclat in and of ALL stuff animate & Inanimate, known & unkown as OUR transfinity in and out of the "Elementals of Beyondness.

Hence: Blach Holes, Dark energy & Dark Matter & More sound!

Note: This is NOT a BRANE(s) layer based Cosmic Reality as you suggest above or some Mysterious transparent or simultaneous levels of other reality(s) as you mentioned above.No.

And This Phenomona does not mean that wherever you place your Heuristical Hat that so to speaketh here , that that place is going to be your next Home,

NO, You do not Choose! We do not ask to be born. No! WE Eclati-On's Come from the MAGMA-Percolation, and evolved, in Miracle & Zero Sin (sin is a manmade never Eclati Made), as WE appear Now [We exist in the 4th,3rd,2nd & 1st Dimension Exclusively made-up of US and "Conserved Thermodynamic" like, as Stuff & Thing under LAW(s) a/k/a OURS "Clauses" of our universe that in turn is OURS Genuine Constitution.

OUR goal, Like "Sperm" Races Forwards to couple with "Egg" vis a vis for Unity seeking [Our HEURISTICALs] Is about Fullfilling Eclat's "innate self fullfilling prophecy" as discused in the five Major Infixus Religion today, which is set aside in Eclat's TIME sequence known as the exclusive 6th,7th,8th & 9th Dimensional Realm of the other side of the 5th Dimention Home base, a/k/a the Non-Gravity Due to Be realm.

We then Go Towards the PLASMAtriculation's Interface frequency Channel conducting Grid system of Miracles for another miracle moment.

Therefore; We cannot nor have we ever died. Just Be Good & be aware of your numbered Photonical mist like miracle birth awaereness Heuristics. If one is bad, like kills or Rapes another humate unjustisfiably, then their Photons are reduced thus an abberation of your Transport frequency causes Orthogonal heuristical dispersion.

Dark Energy is our invisible reality that is OURStransport Window & Dark Matter is the Corridor or Medium that Eternal Heuristic Entity's must avail oneself with as OURS "ETERNITY AVOIDING LONELINESS via the Eclat Miracle of Creation, Destruction & recreation Purpose in Humates, Nature, Universe & in other Banes if any.

Wherefore: We are on the 1,2,3,&4th side of Eclat's Absolute Hot & Absolute Cold Mizan as Commanded. And before the Magma was created via OURs Father NEBULAE that, We was at the 5th Dimension, a/k/a the Due to Be Realm. So;

We are now on Space-Ship Earth in and of & standing or appearing Bio Carbonally on the Magma & Below the Plasma Layers (right before the other side of the 5th Dimension that is SHARED, this is right in fron of OURs noses) so to speaketh, and Appearing both intelligently & Heuristicaly bound with OURS Holy Cosmic feeling Faith knowing that ECLA & "i" always, forever, evolve from both Eclats invisible 6th,7th,8th &9th Dimension Reality as OURS Transfinity in TIME(Temperature that is OURS oinly Reality).

1,2,3,4th [5th/5th] 6,7,8,9th.

Eclat Real= 1st,2,3,4, (half on 5th side] and;

Eclati-On(s)= 6th,7,8,9 (half on 5th other side.

This is OURS REALITY or purpose exising for the pupose of balancing Absolute Hot realitys & Absolute Cold realitys!

This answers:

1) Where WE came from?!
(Due-To-be (5th Place) via MAGMApercolationMagma

2) WHY We are hear?!
(Eclat & "i" are Heuristicals with Eclat, as Companions & little Helpers for US All via OURS "Eternity Avoiding Loneliness, hence "let there Be Photons et al Commands and LAWS of ITSELF in ALL And;

3) Where are WE going?!
(Towards the 5th side of the Due-To-be non Gravity Place via OURS Poof-TIME a-gonna and into the Plasmatriculation interface Frequency Entropy Layer right before the 5th. And Eclats 4,3,2,1 Brane's so to Speaketh, if any.

Ya Ya. whoa! Praise the Holy no Mon Eclati! <?;+)/ Ya Ya Pogono's Pagana's et al. eee Ha,, with "Shiloh" the nonjealous thus fearless Holy No Man, just being with IT, together Forever!

It's true, United WE stand, devided We fall & Thence ONE must Account for their OWN anti-Humanity & Anti-Eclati-On Doctrine(s).

One or half of OURs World(s) (like We heuristical spirits share with Eclat's 5th Dimension Doctrine) And there is another World(s) that Eclat Shares with US at the 5th dimension having a Doctrine.

Eclats innate Doctrine is embedded into our own Humate essence Photon Doctrine as ONE! Never dieing & never seperable according to Humate & heuristical Quantum Holy Entanglement!

Eclati-on's are always ONE with Eclati-on's, not as Jews, Christians, Muslums/Muslims, Hindu, Buddha et al! You need to come clean with this sobering self evident truth! NOW!

"ECLAT consents but only for a TIME"

"Shilo" The Biship Of Tellus"

- by: DR. Harry Theriault et seq, at al.

"Usually a good Begining has a good end, And a Bad has a bad nd. So Things begin with you alone, and things end with you alone!"

- by: Jacob Jozevz (Revelation Minister of Cruxology). <? : + )/ Ya Ya.

Why is that some comments text areas are disabled here? Is it a bug or some conspiracy? Before WP fights for press freedom elsewhere they might want to fix their bugs first. Because this is really unprofessional at least.

That's nice, when Bush made all those flowery speeches and stuff, he effectively passed what amounts to a 'stealth' church tax, which I adamantly oppose due to the fact that I neither support organized religious institutions(or disorganized ones, for that matter), nor do I wish to be paying for their upkeep.

Speaking as a heathen-american(means I never missed church, and they don't miss me either), I respect their capacity to practice whatever it is they do, some call it larceny, but they're free to do it so long as that scale and scope of practice remains outside my front door, and has no government authorization to start lifting money out of my wallet. And, further, they need to start talking to some of their Ordained Ministers. The company I worked for(won't name it) just hired That Guy. That Guy claimed to be an ordained minister. That Guy signed on to get paid pretty decently. But, what's the first thing That Guy starte doing? Pan-handling the rest of the staff. Yeah. That Guy. All in the name of God, right? Riiiiight. That's my personal testimony as to one observed negative phenomenon taking place in the name of the Cloth, one small bit of evidence of intentional and probably systematic wrongdoing, social parasitism in the name of the Church, false prophet or otherwise.
Ever since they found a couple of the Pointy Hats with an unusual fondness for little boys, the Church's reputation has been headed downhill, and it's going to take a lot of image-polishing to bring things back up to snuff.
Let's see the books, keep the flowery speeches and the Phil Donahue psychobabble for someone else. Public accountability and transparency, or NO Jesus license. Period.

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What makes us cling to anything? Science, esp. research in psychology, provides some answers to that question. For me and many people close to me, the imperative to make the world a better place for humans and other life doesn't come from God; we don't even believe in God. My parents have many traditional Chinese superstitions, and my boyfriend and I are atheists and naturalists. Evidence suggests that humans and some other animals are capable of behaving altruistically w/out awareness of or intervention from anything beyond nature; no evidence has suggested otherwise.

I like you Julia,

The problem with your post is that it doesn't explain why believers can have such closed minds and do terrible things -- including to other believers.

As one example -- Why do so many religious folks support George Bush and the evil he is doing in Iraq?

I'll go this far with you though, Julia -- If all believers were good people like you -- I'd think this would count as real proof for something godlike out there -- something I would definitely consider.

Right now, it all looks like superstition to me!

You say:
"Of course religion is man-made -- it is a human response-- and
structuring into human organizations- to the awareness of God within and beyond
human beings."

I disagree. It's a response rather to the awareness of the unknown within and beyond human consciousness. The difference is that which limits or expands human consciousness. If we accept the concept "God", which has no precise objective meaning whatsoever -- never has, never will -- we negate the possibilities of science and creative human, often revolutionary, thought. Of course, "religion" is an institutional approach to authority (as you suggest) which has nothing to do with that amorphous concept of "God". The difference between Jesus and Jerry Fallwell is a good case in point: Both are charismatic leaders, one died for his revolutionary activities, which few understood at all; while the other simply preyed on the fearfull and mindless for personal profit.

Thank you.

Bob

Mr Mark
I'm not sure Hitchens can refute what she's saying here. She's not talking about flat-earthism or rejecting other groups, but about community, culture and ritual -- freed from coercion.

Dear Julia -

I suggest you read Mr Hitchens' book. It refutes what you have written in spades.

Julia,

You are where it's at.