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The bible has many negative views and not just on sex. If you believe it's the word of God then you believe in a God that condones slavery, inequality of women, fantastical punishments, etc. Fornicators don't go to heaven, it's better to marry than to burn, fornication angers God. I could go on...

what idiotic drivel

Yes, but, it is what the person or group does with that discomfort at being questioned that is the difference between the freedoms we currently enjoy in the west and those poor folks in the Islamic world (and increaingly Putin's Russia it seems). Bush and especially Cheney do not like to be questioned (as scapegoat Libby fights for his freedom currently), but they cannot openly imprison someone over it.

And this is the kind of fundamntalism that Jihadist is saying that we must watch for, learn about, and fight against.

Just goes to show Phaedrus, people in power don't like to have their authority questioned. Seems familiar.........hmmmmmm

Of course, extremism can be religious, governmental, or a convenient hybrid. This is from todays Washington Post:

A former college student, Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman, is sitting in an Egyptian prison, awaiting sentencing tomorrow. His alleged "crime": expressing his opinions on a blog. His mistake: having the courage to do so under his own name.

Soliman, 22, was expelled from Al-Azhar University last spring for sharply criticizing the university's rigid curriculum and faulting religious extremism on his blog. He was ordered to appear before a public prosecutor on Nov. 7 on charges of "spreading information disruptive of public order," "incitement to hate Muslims" and "insulting the President." Soliman was detained pending an investigation, and the detention has been renewed four times. He has not had consistent access to lawyers or to his family.

"Return to God and you will be very happy. He waits for you everyday. He loves you very much even though you may think this idea is absurd. If you will turn to God and mend your ways, He will welcome you with open arms and great joy."

AND IF YOU DON'T??? --- HELL FIRE & DAAAMNAAATION

FOR ETEEEEERNITY!!!!!

"Return to God and you will be very happy."

No thanks. Price too high. Any happiness I gain by giving up my mind won't be worth it.

Amen brother Phaedrus

You may be right Marco, and if you look back in the thread you will see that that is what I actually recommended to others re Shearer. But, you can also see that when people began to punch back at the bully, with some force, and ridicule as well, I admit, he slinks away.

Now if it were new info he was spouting, I would think differently, but, it is always the same. There is no light, only heat.

Maybe nothing should be done. It seems the best way to get through to anybody is to let them talk, listen, and then respond with one's own point of view. If the two people can't agree, then they should agree to disagree.

Dear Mr. Conolley,
John:

You stated: "Incidentally, being damned to hell for masturbation was the initial motivation for me leaving the church ...Your threats of damnation are pretty lame compared to what I heard back then, and discomfit me not one little bit."

No one can damn you to hell for that and God certainly doesn't damn you to hell for that. I do not threaten you. I welcome your return to a good and happy life as God wants for you. Return to God and you will be very happy. He waits for you everyday. He loves you very much even though you may think this idea is absurd. If you will turn to God and mend your ways, He will welcome you with open arms and great joy.

Peace,
TKH

I have actually been thinking more about Jihadist's post on the nature of fundamentalism and what can be learned from its display in threads like this one, but also on what should be done to oppose it. I would like to hear some of the others' thoughts on this.

It amazes me how much effect one man's false tirades can generate such a huge response. Just goes to show how some christians and some evengelicals prosper.

I realize that all the attention is still focused on the "brilliant" words of Canyon Shearer, but now that he's retired to licking his wounds, maybe we should get back to discussing the topic at hand. Or maybe not. It sure is fun taking the p**s out of someone, isn't it?

From Canyon Shearer's "sermon":

“He that hates his brother is a murderer, he that calls someone an idiot is in danger of eternal Hellfire!” Posted February 19, 2007 3:51 PM

Mr. Shearer's response to Russell D, 27 minutes earlier:

"You're an idiot..." Posted February 19, 2007 3:24 PM

Enough said?

"The important thing is that people have killed people. Be they communists(120 Million), Evolutionary Atheist Nazi's(63 Millions)..."

Where did these figures come from? They're outrageously exageratted. The Nazis are commonly said to have killed 6 million Jews. If you added ALL the other deaths they caused, I doubt if you could double the figure.

The murder of the Kulaks under Stalin has been estimated between 10 and 30 million. Add a few more million for war deaths and persecutions. I've seen the figure 25 million for the number of people killed during the Chinese Revolution, but I regard that figure as unlikely. Bring in other Communist regimes, you might get up to 80 million total. Indeed, I have a book that I can't be bothered to get up and find right now that estimates all the deaths from all brands of leftism to be about 150 million. That doesn't leave room for the Communists to have 120 mill.

"Evolution says things get better without input..."

Note: the idea that evolution is directional and goal driven isn't from evolution science. It's from a French priest named Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. No biologist will tell you any such thing, but it is frequently mentioned by fundamentalist Christians as a way to make evolution look bad. Another red herring.

"He certainly taught us that abusing the normal sexual utility is an abomination to God. Also, denigrating another person for one's own self gratification is simply disgusting."

Are you kidding me? Are you telling me that the God who created the sun, the planets, the comets, the galaxies, and the quasars will wet his pants if I masturbate? Even your understanding of God is incoherent.

Listen, TKH, masturbation is universal primate behavior. We've been doing it since we were monkeys. Surely God made us that way.

Incidentally, being damned to hell for masturbation was the initial motivation for me leaving the church and finding my way to atheism. I took the trip when I was fifteen, and I haven't been sorry for one second in the 40+ years since. Your threats of damnation are pretty lame compared to what I heard back then, and discomfit me not one little bit.

And what about that "denigration" business? The people in pornography are volunteers (leaving aside child pornography and the supposed snuff films which may or may not exist), and do it for the sexual thrill of it as much as for the money. If they want to do it, how am I denigrating them by watching?

"There is not a single scientific fact to back up your theory. I have researched EVERY so called evidence, and none of them support the theory, despite their respective pseudoscientists wanting them to so badly. Chuch Darwin said there would need to be millions of transitionary species/fossils to support his theory. Isn't it odd that there are between 2-6 fossils that your pseudoscientists think are transitions and creationists have proven not to be? Darwin's own hypothesis disproves [etc. etc. etc.]"

This is incoherent. Shearer, talking to you is like shouting down the well. I won't do it any more.

And speaking of brittle exoskeletons and evolution...why exactly would CS's god put more arthropod species on the planet than all other living species combined? As the population geneticist JBS Haldane remarked when asked what could be concluded about the nature of the Creator, "He must have an inordinate fondness for beetles."

Couldn't resist a final evolution tie-in.

Jihadist:

Extremely well-put. You have conveyed the external brittleness of extremism, an exoskeleton that doesn't allow for the evolution of ideas. But, as we know, ideas like all else, will continue to evolve. This is both my hope, and my fear.

Thank you, as always.

Pheadrus,

Precisely. And that is how fundamentalists, inerrantists wins. They never let up, they say the same thing over and over again until you just give up. Here lies the danger. They win if we let them think they win and they become emboldened.

I've seen Canyon's Muslim counterparts in Islamic websites. Some Christian inerrantists like Canyon, also valiantly ventured in the English language Muslim websites, but they never got the ripping that Canyon got here. So, I am rather amused and immuned by Muslim or Christian literalists/inerrantists who do such posts.

Extremism has its limits. They have no place to go once they reach the edge, the limit of their certainties. Either they get pushed, or they jump. More often than not, like Canyon, they back off for a while when it is apparent that many recoiled, to recharge, and come back again with the same message. Canyon will come back, but he will, again, be overwhelmed with reactions to his posts, and then take a relief break, and then be back again.

The trick is to just ignore his posts, or to read them and see where they are coming from. I read them so I will know what is driving them for they do shape and affect public/secular policies. Never under-estimate the commitment, the energy, and the tenacity of one who really thinks he is acting and speaking for God.

And we have to wonder why religious fundamentalism last through the centuries.

I have to break ranks with you on this Jihadist. I think he is a troll who diverts potentially useful threads into being all about him, and then when he succeeds in doing that and expending his limited intellectual arsenal, off he skulks. Predicatble as ever.

Its always the same things:
1. Christians are what I say they are, and you are too.
2. The Bible is all you will ever need, inerrant and complete.
3. Not saved-going to hell, nyah nyah nyah.
4. Any thing that anyone states support for, is automatically a religion and thus, on the same turf as CS. This is especially true for evolution and atheism, both religions.
5. The rules of logic and rational discourse are also what I say they are, or they are just part of the secular scientific religion. For instance, negatives must be proven, not otherwise.
6. There are no points that you can ever make, because my belief system is infallible, blah blah blah. And besides, I will ignore any real point yu come clse to making and come back with juvenile ad hominems. Has to be about me, as you know.

and so on. It was kind of funny the first time around, but ages oh so fast.

Very well put Jihadist. I look forward to another encounter soon. It's not often we can find someone that lights a fire under our collectives asses.

Marco Polo

No. I am not taking bets. Canyon Shearer will be back in another On Faith threads and in full charge after he's tanned and rested.

When he is out, I do miss him. He is the only one who can drive both believers and non-believers up the wall:)

Bill:

Shearer as the Black Knight?, very apt I'd say:

CS: "Its only a flesh wound!"

"What? Your arms off!"

"no it isn't. Come on back, I'll chew your legs off!"

I love it.

I almost feel liberated now, like a great weight has been lifted off my chest. Of course, I guess we'll see how long Canyon stays gone. Anyone taking bets?

I am willing to defeat atheism and evolution as long as you're willing to defend it.

Now that we have abandoned those topics and simply resorted to pointing out how stupid each other are, I am leaving the conversation.

I look forward to conversing with you all in future On-Faith discussions.

Canyon:

Resorting to calling me names all of a sudden? Doesn't sound like the well educated man you are pretending to be.
I don't fight for pleasure, I fight when I am needed, plain and simple. I doubt you've actually been in a fight and won your entire life.

A man who is ready for trouble is more dangerous than a man looking for trouble.

I expect you will come back at me with what seems to you a witty retort, but I assure you, it will be far from it. You seem to know very little about what you talk about. And only saying that there has only been 80 deaths due to Christianity? Are you dense man? One period in 1199 is just the tip of the Iceburg. Friday the 13th was not even the beginning, and sadly, due to people like you and our president, it won't be the last

How in the world did Canyon think the Python scene was related to Russell D.? It fits Canyon more appropriately. I think most of the people on here would agree with that.
I too am here for the fun also. It also seems t ome that even Canyon's follower Jihadist is thinking Canyon needs to shut it. Don't you think it's time to throw in the towel when your own friends start leaving you?

Canyon:)

Should take a break. You are starting to lose what people actually wrote to you in you haste to respond. For example, I asked you on how many versions of the Bible are there, not how many English translations of the Qur'an.

Ease up Canyon my friend. George Santayana defined a fanatic as someone who redoubles his effort once he forgot his purpose.

Russell D:

I'm here for the fun. We need levity to maintain some sanity here:)

Rusty,

I wouldn't go that far to describe you...because that would assume you had the ability to defend yourself in the first place.

Perhaps if that Black Knight twer...I dunno...4 years old, then it could be you.

I love that scene. How very appropriate for you to use that Bill P. Sums it all up

Good Grief! What a fracas that was Phaedrus! Anyway, thank you, it will be helpful despite having to empty the printer tray to get a hard copy.

By the way: Do you remember the Black Knight scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail? Where he kept getting his limbs hacked off by Arthur, but he refused to acknowledge it, minimized his wounds etc.? And then, when he is only a torso on the ground he is still making threats and issuing challenges. As Arthur rides away he is still yelling insults?

Remind you of anyone?

P:

Thanks, Mate, off to give it a look.

Bill,

The best example that i know of would be the jacoby thread on the question of Jesus' divinity. It was in December, and you can find it in the "past questions" section. I have pretty much steered clear of Shearer-infected" threads since, for readily apparent reasons.

The better parts would be towards the end-long thread as I recall- and you will find the stuff about evolution as a religion, why non-believers have to "prove a negative" and so forth and so on. You will have a hoot over "Truth Machine," a difficult customer, but he really hands him his head.

Anyway, hope that helps. You will likely find it repetitive after reading this though.

In response to Mr. Marco Polo's response to my earlier note:

I have not lied. My point is that when man takes a gift from God and turns it into a simple act of self gratification which has nothing to do with the intended purpose of the gift, it is an error.

If we eat more than we need, it is an error. If we drink more than we need, it is an error. If we have sex simply for personal pleasure alone, it is an error. If we view pornographic material to artificially incite an urge for sex, this is a grievous error in many different ways, one of which is the contribution to demoting another human (the object of the photography) to a simple, non-human object of pleasure.

People abuse heroin for pleasure; it is an error. People abuse pot for pleasure; it is an error. People abuse cocaine for pleasure; it is an error. Pornography, an error, not only hurts you, it hurts the other person who has been made the object of exploitation.

If you know you are hurting someone through your acts of self-gratification, you are certainly also knowing that you are not "loving your neighbor as yourself".

Sincerely,
TKH

I have to sign out for a little while.

Bill P., for what it's worth, I assumed you were a Brit as well, from your typing style.

In the words of Homer J. Simpson, "You take forever to say nothing!"

If Phaedrus has been stalking me, that is fine, but I assure you has never seen me lose a debate.

More importantly, do you consider yourself to be a good person?

Phaedrus:

Perceptive there, I am a Brit, though here in the states now. Sounds like you have a bit of experience with our good Mr. S (there are some troll-like qualities there). Please to point me to what you would consider the most fruitful thread for this little scholastic project I'm onto?

My World-View has a definitive answer for the origin and reason of death.

Your World-View doesn't know why death happens, neither it's origins.

Doesn't that concern you that such a major facet of your religion is unknown?

Ok, I liked the compliment. I think its funny how Canyon refers to russell D. now as Rusty. just goes to show, Canyon likes to spin it. Keep spinning brother, maybe you'll throw up and stop one day.
What was your Origin of Death again Canyon? More crap from the Bible? Enlighten me. I need a good laugh.

Rusty,

I almost followed you down that rabbit trail! Nice try!

I also want to know why you guys gave up on the origins of death? Couldn't figure it out? Gave up?

Phaedrus:

thank you for your kind words sir. I am sure that Pastor, Marco and myself appreciate them.
Hey Canyon.......My name is spelled with 2 "Ls".......at least spell a guys name correctly before you insult them.

Phaedrus, was that a joke? Nice one. :)

If you're there, it can't be troll free. Why don't you try to jump in instead of being an instigator?

The thread has now reached the point where Mr. Shearer has drawn the wrath of those with particularly sharp intellectual knives, and the will to use them. Before, it was "Truth Machine," now it looks like "Bill P." (also British?) has drawn a bead. What we will all be treated to at this point is the progressive guttering of his (CS's) candle. When it gets to the "everything is just another religion" argument, and "take this quiz", the basement has been reached.

It is really kind of unfortunate because Baptist pastor, and Russel, and Marco might have brought some light out of a discussion if left to their own devices. Maybe you will have some academic fun with this, Bill, sounds like it anyway.

My best to you fellows, hope to see you on some "troll-free" threads in the future.

"I can't stress it enough! Please, please, please, please, please, please read my posts before saying what you think I said."

Canyon, you should read your own words man, they would do wonders for you.

I am trying to teach you because you are devoid of knowledge. I should go back to warning you. Please read:

Open Air Gospel Sermon
Canyon Shearer
© Dec 2006
For circulation with or without permission; in part or in whole

I only have one sermon, I’ve tried to write others, but I always come back to this one. It’s the one I open-air with, it’s the one I e-mail to friends, it’s the only Sermon I have committed to memory. In my opinion, it’s the only Sermon worth preaching.

I always start with my favorite Bible Verse, that verse being Psalm 19:7, “The Law of God is Perfect, Converting the Soul.” The importance of this verse is the law that it is talking about. In the beginning, there was one law, and that law was, “Don’t Eat the Fruit of that Tree!”1 As we all know, that law was broken, and with that transgression came a new law, a law found written on your conscience2, but also in the 20th Chapter of the Book of Exodus.

That law is the 10 Commandments, and I’d like to go over a couple of them. The easiest of the 10 Commandments to remember and to break is the ninth, which says, “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness”, in other words, Don’t Lie! Proverbs 12:22 says that Lying Lips are an ABOMINATION to the Lord, Revelation 21:8 promises that all Liars Shall Have their Part in the Lake of Fire! In the 9th Commandment we can see the Holiness of God, because if you lie to a child, you might get away with it, if you lie to me, I might get mad, if you lie to your spouse, you might end up on the couch or divorced, if you lie to a police officer, you’re obstructing justice and you’ll go to jail, if you lie to a judge, it’s perjury and you’ll go to prison, even more strict still, if you lie to your government, you’re guilty of treason, and the punishment is death18! The offense of a lie to God is so much more injurious and so much more condemning that the only just punishment for lying is eternal suffering. But wait! You say, “I’ve told lies, but I’m not a liar.” Lets consider this; if I rape one girl, I’m a rapist, if I murder one person, I’m a murderer; in the eyes of God, if you’ve told one lie, you are a liar, and will face the consequences as such.

Now I know what you’re thinking, you’re thinking, Thou Shalt Not Murder! Now that’s a commandment I know I have kept! But listen to this! Jesus said, “He that hates his brother is a murderer, he that calls someone an idiot is in danger of eternal Hellfire!”3 God is so Perfect and Holy that He sees the intentions and condition of your heart, and on this will you be judged.

Murder is the 6th commandment, lets move onto the 7th. You’ve heard it said of old, “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,” but Jesus said, “He that looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart!”4 Once again, God is concerned with the condition of your thought life, not just the actions that you pursue in the flesh.

The 8th, and final Commandment I’m going to preach says, “Thou Shalt Not Steal.” Consider this, every tiny thing you have stolen has distanced you from God, be it a paperclip, a pen, a piece of gum, or a song on the Internet, all of these constitute larceny and require punishment!

Now just wait one minute, aren’t the Ten Commandments from the Old Testament? Aren’t we under a new Covenant now? You’re exactly right! In the Old Testament, the punishment for thievery, according to Deuteronomy 24:7, was death! In the New Testament, the punishment for thievery is eternal suffering5! God has taken in the reigns, made His laws MORE strict, not less.

Based on these four, of ten, Commandments we have examined, it is clear to see that the whole world has sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God6, and God cannot just let a transgressor go, because He is a good judge, and a good judge will see to it that law-breakers are punished. The Bible says that the depraved nature of our sins has made us a child of wrath7, of disobedience8, of the devil9, an enemy of righteousness9, separated from God10, and doomed to Hell11. This punishment have we earned, and only by the Love of God is it possible to be redeemed and to escape the fire to come.

God became flesh, came to this world which He created, born of a virgin12, lived a perfect sinless life, and was sacrificed for your sins on a Cross overlooking Jerusalem13. In a beautiful, incomprehensible showing of love, Jesus Christ substituted Himself for you, took your punishment upon Himself and died a terrible, painful, humiliating death. Death could not Hold the God of the Universe, and He rose on the Third Day, and Delivered your Soul from Hell14.

In a worldly courtroom, a Judge can let a perpetrator go if his fine has been paid and if he promises not to repeat the crime. In front of the Great White Throne of God, you can be absolved of your crimes, as your fine has been paid in Jesus Christ; repent now of your sins in order to receive the gift of Life so richly given.

Repent, Apologize and Turn from, your Sins today, and trust in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell, like you’d trust in a parachute to save you from Gravity15, don’t wait until tomorrow, the world is a dangerous place and you could die tonight! It is appointed once for a man to die, and then the Judgment16, it is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God17.

Please, get yourself a Bible and read the Book of John, it was written by one of Jesus’ closest friends, and it will reaffirm everything I’ve said today.

References
1- Genesis 2:17
2- Romans 2:15
3- Matthew 5:22
4- Matthew 5:28
5- Revelation 20:12-15
6- Romans 3:23
7- Ephesians 2:3
8- Colossians 3:6
9- Acts 13:10
10- Isaiah 59:2
11- Revelation 20:14
12- Matthew 1:23
13- Luke 23:34
14- Luke 24:76
15- Ray Comfort, “Hells Best Kept Secret”
16- Hebrews 9:27
17- Hebrews 10:31
18- Todd Friel, “Way of the Master Radio”

I like the Baptist Pastor.
That person is a great individual, and probably closer to Heaven than Canyon could ever dream of being.
And Canyon, I was in the service, and I agree with Pastor there, no big achievement.
What's with the pop quiz? Who deemed you the one to teach us? For all this thread seems to be doing, it also seems like it a breeding ground for the one track mind of Canyon Shearer.

Hey, I'd love to start a religion......bet I could make a lot of money from it.

Marco Polo,

The important thing is that people have killed people. Be they communists(120 Million), Evolutionary Atheist Nazi's(63 Millions), or Christians(80 people), the fact is that a lot of people have died because of organized religion(Yes, atheism and evolutionism are organized, stop teaching them in my schools).

That is a wasted argument that Russel D runs to, just like all of his arguments. He should be more worried about his soul than the soul of people who died in 1199.

Do you think you're a good person? Please take the quiz above.

Look folks, the guy could be summa from Harvard or Oxford and his ideas would still be quite ridiculous. Almost makes me wonder if he is not putting everyone on a bit, but he seems to work so hard at it.

Wow! What a terrible wrath I have drawn from you guys.

I didn't say they were good schools, I didn't say what I earned from them, I didn't say because I attended those I was better than you. Because your theology is so whacked all you can do is attack me? Why not read your Bible instead Pastor? Wouldn't that do you and your congregation more good? God knows they must be dying for Godly wisdom which you have abstained from giving them.

Would you please take the pop-quiz above?

How quickly the tone has changed. Not only does Canyon not know history, but he seems to have forgotten all of it. Russell D. wasn;t talking about serial killers you moron. AS for a war in the last 150 years? who cares. It doesn't matter one lick. What matters is that wars happen everyday, and every one of the people who started them believe God is on their side. Take the Iraq war for example. You really think god told Bush to do that? That man lied his way into a war. I know, I was overseas when it happened. I got more information than what was ever leaked over here in the States. The man found nothing, yet went on his mery way to go to war. Ever here of the Crusades? Or the Spanish inquisition? Or how about the Religious jerks that settled this country? Ever ask the Native Americans how they feel about those guys? didn't think so.

Russell D.,

You made the point before I had the chance. For those who don't know the CCAF is the Community College of the Aire Force. EVERYONE who is trained in any kind of Air Force vocational school gets credits from there. Even I have a few from my time in the USMC because I went to my occupational specialty school on a Air Force Base. Like you said Russell, no big achievement.

To be honest, Canyon, you don't mention any credentials that are particularly impressive, especially for this conversation. Embry-Riddle and Arizona State? Okay, I'll admit they are both good schools if you want to be an engineer but what do they have to do with this discussion? Grantham U? That's an unaccredited on-line education. And the MacArthur tie in, well . . . not real impressive. That COULD mean that you attended Masters Seminary (which I doubt) but even if you did all that would do is to explain everything else. What I suspect you mean is that you happen to own a set of the MacArthur Commentary series and/or a MacArthur Study Bible. I will say this, all of this taken together helps to explain the superficial nature of your dogmatic rantings.

I said I was not going to waste any more time on you. I guess I just couldn't help myself. It's kind of like the way that everyone has to slow down and gawk at a car wreck.

Pop Quiz:

1. I have kept the Lord 1st in my heart. True/False
2. I have not worshipped money, nature, or idols. True/False
3. I have never used the Lord's name in vain. True/False
4. I have honored the Sabbath Day. True/False
5. I listen to my parents without fail. True/False
6. I have never felt hate in my heart. True/False
7. I have only pure thoughts about beautiful people. True/False
8. I have never stolen anything, even music. True/False
9. I am truthful in every statement I make. True/False
10. I have never craved the possessions of others. True/False

Shearer, this is not about one's concept of what constitutes a "good person" or not. Face it, with the degree of anonymity these threads provide, there should be no pretense of the legitimacy of appealing to authority. This is all about the ideas posted, and i find yours to be quite close to farcical. But, they also have their usefulness, as it is often better to learn intellectual virtues from evidence of their absence.

Bill P.

Do you consider yourself to be a good person?

Marco Polo,

This isn't difficult to understand unless your brain isn't working. Russel accused me of getting information only from the Bible. Go back and read a bit, you might learn something.

I hope it doesn't appear that Russel D has gotten the better of me, I am quite certain he is the dumbest most self-obsessed person on the board. If it does, then that is a shame on my part.

I can't stress it enough! Please, please, please, please, please, please read my posts before saying what you think I said.

God is not on my side. When I am right, it is because I am on God's side. When I am wrong, it is because I have strayed.

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Russell D writes of Canyon S:

"All your vast knowledge seems to have taught you well,..."

I do hope that you are saying that with a healthy dose of irony. This guy has vast amounts of several things (merde, for instance), but knowledge is not one of them.

I forwarded several of his posts to my philosophy professor, and he has now given the class an assignment to find all of the logical errors in Mr. S's posts. I think the military would refer to this as a "target-rich-envoronment."

Russel D.

You're an idiot. You haven't put a coherent sentence together in two days. Ad Hominem shows a lack of knowledge, not the opposite.

The top-ten killers in History were Atheists and/or evolutionists. The number one killer in history is atheistic evolutionism. It seems you'd know that if you'd read a bit?

Name a major war caused by Christianity in the last 150 years. Huh? You can't? That's because the non-Christians have started them all.

Christianity, unfortunately, is made up of people. People are evil. Their actions have no bearing on the perfection of the human race.

How many hospitals has your religions opened in the last 100 years? Seems they all have(or had) crosses hanging on them...

You can think you are right all you want, but that doesn't make you an ounce so...

When history, human morality, human understanding, and science back you up, then we'll talk, but until then, you are completely baseless in your ridiculous religion of "Russel Dism."

It seems to me that this Mr. Canyon guy is not very good at getting the point. Bragging about education doesn't make you smart. Using it wisely does. Obviously, you have yet to use your knowledge for anything purposeful. Seems to me and probably everyone else, that Russell D. has gotten the better of you and you refuse to admit it.
Please try to make a valid point, otherwise, you will continue to spout useless dribble all the while claiming God is on your side. Seems that is what most leaders and people who start wars say-God is on there side. But here is a question.
What's to say God even wants to be on your side? I'd be safe to say that He doesn't. he'd probably be ashamed by what you say. Of course, God did put a response on here. He doesn't like you obviously.

Canyon..........in studying, you'd know that most of the blood shed on this earth was in the name of GOD. Does that make Christianity so good? No it does