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Bill: "Asking the "What if?" questions may slow down so-called progress but if they prevent horror, they are worth it"

What if Humans stop oil drilling on land or in the ocean? It will not stop the horror of the Religious Judgment Day Fire, set up by Humans on Earth, not by the Peace God/Us in Genesis 1,2. The Killer God that Caused the Planetary Flood in Genesis 7,8, was not Our Peace God Ancestors, but the High Tech Science Society of the Noah/Atlantis Society like our High Tech Killer Society today.

It is Time to stop Blaming our High Tech Science Ancestors, for the Work of the Misbred Human Species on Earth. The Planetary Flood was a horror, that lasted over 1 year in Genesis 7,8, and killed most of the High Tech Population Explosion at that time, and changed the Earth's top soil. Now we have another Population and High Tech Explosion the past 100 years from 1 Billion Humans to 7 Billion Humans, on the same defective land area. How did this happen? Heterosexual Male Lust?

Ever since God/Us High Tech Humans, Reproduced the Original High Tech Colony of Female Clones 'supernaturally', from the Male Rib, 'in their image', in Genesis 1,2., the Clones started Reproducing Children by Heterosexual Generation Birth, Death and Rebirth. Why was The High Tech Science Knowledge lost, and translated as a 'Super'natural Creation and Human Birth of a female from the Male Rib'? Humans today Know this is High Tech Science.

Human Killers today have their Home Planet covered with Pollution, Oil Spills, Oil Wells and Coal Pits, Garbage Dumps and Nuclear Waste on land and in the sea. What Else is needed for the Judgment Day Fire, prophesied in Religion. God/Us, our High Tech Clone Human Ancestors do not Kill. Why do Religious Humans Blame the Peace God for this Disaster? The Loss of High Tech Science after they Reproduced Children? Cleanliness is next to Godliness, in Spaceships and on Planets.

God/Us are an Asexual Peace Human Clone Species that Colonize Planets, Travel in Spaceships, and Have Eternal Physical Life After Birth. They will Return in the End Times, with Celibate Jesus, to Save 144,000 Virgin Males, recorded in Revelation 7, and 14. They will be Transported to a new Planet, like they brought the Virgin Adam Group to Earth, and Cloned Virgin Eves for them as Helpmeets, not Mates.

God/Us and Jesus do have Eternal Physical Life 'After Birth' on Planets and in Spaceships. What is the Religious Life 'After Death' in Heaven, but the Return of our LIFE Elements to our Earth's Atmosphere, to be used again, and again until a Home Planet dies?

Sign on a Church yard. "Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet him"

Humans on Earth should not text and drive. If they die they will not go to be with Jesus.

"Jesus is Alive in a Physical Body, in Spaceships and on Planets," with our High Tech Ancestors God/Us in Genesis 1,2, that Colonized Earth and Reproduced Male and Female Clones 'in their image'. Humans do not Die to go to be with Jesus or the 'Father of Life on Earth'.

Acts 9:9-11. KJV. "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two man stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

With a High Tech Science translation, heaven is a flying saucer or spaceship of God/Us that Colonized Earth 'in the beginning'. Jesus will return with them for the Final Judgment Day, before the Planetary Fire set up with all our Toxic Pollution, coal mines, oil wells and spills, etc. And the Angels in white, were in spacesuits like our Astronauts also wear. Flying Saucers disappearing in Clouds were happening in the 1900s on Earth.

The Supernatural Writings of Humans without High Tech Science, can be translated today as High Tech Science. It is Time to accept that Earth was Colonized by High Tech Science Humans, not Supernatural Gods 'in our image'.

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Bill:
"I've made the point here before that I think the media generally don't do a good job covering religion."

How can anyone cover any Religion? Even Members of their own religion seldom Know the roots of their Religion, except what is passed down to them as a Child, and then what they are exposed to in the growing up years. Where did any Religion come from, except from Human Ancestors?

How many different Man-Made Religions use Genesis 1,2, for their Faith in a God 'in our image'? How many Religions resulted from Abraham's Children, all of them not only the Children of 'Israel'. How did so many Man-Made Religions begin under the Christian banner, after 300? Why did the Original Roman Christian Religion use Three Gods, a Father, Son and Holy Spirit/Ghost?

Where did the High Priest, the Pope, come from in Christianity? The Pope's garments resemble the pictures of the Priest robes, recorded in the Wilderness for Aaron, the High Priest of the Children of Israel. Why did Protestantism start from the Catholic Religion, but not carry with it, the Celibate Priests, and Celibate Nuns who are married to Celibate Jesus?

Where did the High Priest, the Pope, come from in Christianity? The Pope's garments resemble the pictures of the Priest robes, recorded in the Wilderness for Aaron, the High Priest of the Children of Israel. Why did Protestantism start from the Catholic Religion, but not carry with it, the Celibate Priests, and Celibate Nuns who are married to Celibate Jesus?

All all the Different Religions have done so far today, is have another Tower of Babel. No one understands the other's Handed Down to Children their Man-Made Religions. If Humans do not accept the High Tech Science in All Religion and Myth, especially from 'in the beginning' in Genesis 1,2.

These outline the High Tech Colonization of Earth, and the Supernatural Cloning of the Female from the Male Rib. This is not Supernatural God Acts today, but Human High Tech Science.

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Bill:
"...Constantinian Christianity, meaning what often is called Christendom, has lost -- especially in Europe but increasingly in the U.S., too."

Because the new Religious Trinity God, of Father, Son and Holy Ghost, is not what Jesus or the Bible teaches. In Rome and Egypt, they had Trinity Gods of Father, Mother, and Son. Did Constantine and the new Christians know about Genesis 1,2?

Genesis 1:26. KJV. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"
Does this mean God?Us were High Tech Science Human Male and Female Clones? They did make the Female Eve from Adam's Rib.

Do Christians today accept Genesis 1,2, with our High Tech Science Knowledge? Do Christians accept the God Jesus, was with the God/Us in Genesis 1, as a Trinity God?

When Life Began on Earth in Genesis 1,2, the Male Violated the Virgin Female. Also the male violated the female Vergin in Evolution, 'if' they Evolved from Animal Reproduction. In Evolution Virginity is not discussed; Humans reproduced like Animals, but in Genesis God/Us did not Evolve.

Genesis 1:26. KJV. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"
Does this mean God were High Tech Science Human Male and Female Clones? They did make the Female Eve from Adam's Rib, in the Lab called the Garden of Eden.

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With our High Tech Science the past 100 years, we Know Humans can Reproduce Human Fetus' and Clone Animals of the same gender in a High Tech Lab. Both Male and Female can remain Virgins, like the God/Us, that Colonize Earth, 'in the beginning' in Genesis.

Genesis 1,2 records that Humans 'in our Image', did Colonize Earth, and there is a Higher High Tech Science Way Recorded in Genesis 1. God/Us Humans Traveled to Earth in Spaceships. The 'Fiery Chariot', like the one recorded used by the High Tech Killer God, that landed on a Mountain with fine smoke and thunder with Moses, was the Supernatural 'God' that talked to Moses face to face.

High Tech Science Peace God, Male and Female Peace Clone Humans of Religion in Genesis 1, came to Planet Earth from Space. They taught 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'. They were not the Killer Gods of Scripture and Myth. The High Tech Killer Noah/Atlantis Society, like High Tech Humans are today, were the Killer High Tech Humans in Scripture and Myth.

Today Killer High Tech Humans are setting down the Planetary Fire Destruction with thier Pollution of all types including oil spills and coal mines, and Nuclear Waste. Our Society of Killers will destroy the Eco System and Ozone Canopy, and then Human Life as we Know it cannot Exist, on our Home Planet Earth.

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In Genesis, the Planetary Flood changed the Earth's Axis, changed the Eco System into the seasons. Rain began with the resulting rainbow, and the seasons began as recorded in Genesis. Before the Earth's Perfect Axis tipped, All Earth Land Area was in the Temperate Zone, and Earth was watered with a mist, as Science states.

Science says the Continental Drift Theory took millions of years, instead of 1 year in the Genesis Flood. The Land Mass did not drift, the Axis tipped, and the land just split apart. If South America is quarter turned back up into the Atlantic Ocean, and the top of the USA and Russia are joined at the Arctic Ocean, and the Axis is straightened, all the land mass would be in the temperate zone.

Lots of this information about a Planetary Flood is recorded in many books, and information about Archeology Digs, that reveal modern ruins on most Continents. The Book I was led to first, 4 days after I accepted the Noah Flood was a Planetary Flood, was "The Flood" by Alfred M. Rehwinkel, M.A., B.D., LLD. It helped me to understand the immensity of the Noah Flood
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Our Planetary Population Explosion today is heralding the Coming Planetary Fire Catastrophe, a High Tech Science Community is setting up again. God/Us Peace Clones in Genesis 1,2, do not Move in Mysterious Ways, to Kill a Planet, they Colonize Planets.

High Tech Misbred Killer Humans, did try to Kill our Planet with the Planetary Flood, not our High Tech Human Ancestors, and now today High Tech Humans again, not God/Us, will do a complete Killing of Life as we Know it on Earth, with the Prophesied Planetary Fire.

Either Way that Life Began on Earth, whether in Genesis 1,2, by High Tech Science, or in the Evolution Theory, the Male lost his Virginity, and started seeding his Female Virgin Clone in Genesis 3,4, like Animals as projected in Evolution. This was the Start on Earth of Reproducing Misbred Genetic and Physical Children.

If Evolution was how Life started, all the Supernatural Religious and Myth writings are not Relevant, and should be Ignored. If Humans have Evolved up to High Tech Science Reproduction in the Lab, the Past 100 years, it is Time to Re-Learn how to Reproduce Female Clones from the Male Rib, like it is Recorded in Genesis 1,2.

God/Us High Tech Humans, in Genesis 1, Colonized Earth with High Tech Science. The 6 Days of Creating Life on Earth took 6,000 years Earth Time. God/Us Human Male and Female Clones, 'in our Human Image', Traveled to Earth in Spaceships. High Tech Humans today Know, Space Time Travel is different from Earth time.

2 Peter 3:8. KJV. "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

High Tech Science Reproduction of Male and Female Humans, and the Equal Sharing Lifestyle on Planets and in Spaceships, is the history of the Peace God/Us Humans recorded in Genesis 1. They do not Kill, and have Eternal Physical Human Life After Birth on Planets and in Spaceships. They told the Human Clones they Reproduced "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

Scripture and Myth were handed down, as Supernatural for the past 6,000 years, since Humans lost this Knowledge. Genesis 7-8, records the Planetary Flood that lasted 1 year, 1 month, and 27 days. This Flood tipped the Earth's Axis, and broke the Original Land Mass into the Continents of today. The Evolved High Tech Science Society of the Noah/Atlantis Society caused this Planetary Flood, not God/Us our High Tech Human Ancestors.
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When did God make the Rules that the Female should remain a Virgin until she married? If all females did this, then the Males could not have sex before marriage either. So who were all the females that males had Fornication Pleasure Sex with, before marriage? Other Men's daughters or their own?

God did not use the Female for Reproducing Children. The Asexual Virgin Adam and Eve Clone Helpmeets, Shared the Same Body and Soul Genetics and Physical Makeup, Why did the Female begin Reproducing by Heterosexual Body Birth? "The Snake/Devil Made Her Do It". The Clones Reproduced Misbred Genetic and Physical Defective Children, who became Heterosexual and GLBT Human Beings.

Heterosexual Body Birth Misbred Human Beings, are still searching for their Asexual Soul Mates today, in husbands, wives, and sex partners, since the Original Soul Helpmeets began the Original Sin, of Heterosexual Human Children Reproduction.

Since the 1800s, the Evolution Theory began, and taught that Life on Earth began when algae changed the soupy atmosphere to a Living atmosphere. Where did the Algae come from on a null and void Planet? Then Life Forms Evolved up to Animals and then to Apes and to Humans. And these Evolved male and female Humans did Reproduce by the Animal male sex act to the female.

Since Evolution Theory began, many Religious Humans now accept Evolution, and that God did not Create Male and Female Clone Humans, recorded in Genesis 1,2, but that Humans Evolved from Apes. Which came first, the male or female? In Genesis the male Adam was first. Was female Lucy first in Evolution?

If a good percentage of Scientists are Religious, why do they not see all the High Tech in Genesis 1,2. Or do they not read the Old Testament?

Genesis 1, has the step by step to Colonize a Planet with High Tech, and in Genesis 1,2, they Clone a Female from the Male Rib, 'in their clone image'.

It is in black and white and handed down for 6,000 years. How does these writings and myth, get explained in Evolution Theory from the 1800s?

No matter what Body Birth Misbred Humans do, whether it is Lying, Cursing in God's Name, Swearing on a Bible, losing your Virginity, becoming a Pedophile, a Murderer, or any 'Sin', a result of Misbred Heterosexual Genetic Birth Makeup and Environment. Humans make the Degrees of Sin, on a Fallen Planet.

All Human 'sins' are Equal Sins in the 'eyes' of our High Tech Clone Asexual Ancestors, in Genesis 1,2, After the Original Sin of Heterosexual Body Birth. Heterosexual Body Birth Humans make all the different Grades and Degrees for Sin, Skin Colors, Man-Made Religions with Temples made by Human Hands, and Many Governments, on One Home Planet.

Why do Humans since WW1,2, have so many sexual encounters? Before that, most females stayed Virgins until marriage. So who were the females that were not virgins? Loose Females or Prostitutes? Or was that just a myth, that females had to be Good Girls when they were growing up? Did Bad Girls mean they had Sex Before Marriage?

How many people today heard their Great Grandmothers were virgins when they were married? Look at our Planet now. Since 1900 before the Sexual Revolution, there were 1 Billion Humans. Now for 2011, there will be 7 Billion. We are stacking Humans up in High Rise Apartments. Where can we put anymore?

The Growing Land Area for food and Living is growing into the land area for Animals, and Deserts. So where will we put more Humans and Animals? Will it be necessary for a Nuclear War to Thin the Population? But that will also ruin the Land Area for Food. Is that Why Humans have Nuclear Bombs on Land and Sea? And 'Christian' America Majority leads the Way?

Why is America the Leader of Getting Atomic and Nuclear Bombs, and Polluting our Home Planet. They are more 'Blessed' by their God? The Peace God or the Killer God? Where is the End Time 'Babylon', in the Book of Revelation in the 'Christian' Bible, that will Fall? America the Beautiful? Is America still Beautiful with its Pollution, and Nuclear Bombs and Waste from sea to sea?

Did the Christian God in Genesis 1,2, put Human Clone Soul Mates on Earth to be the Killer Species, or the Caretaker Species of Life? Why are Human Males and Females 'looking for their Soul Mates' in Body Birth Mates? Body Birth Mates do not have the Same Genetic and Physical Soul and Body Makeup, that Clone Soul Mates do, like the Male and Female God/Us Humans in Genesis 1,2, 'in our Human image'.

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Bill:
"..for Father's Day, he's (Bruce Feiler) who has written this good essay about what dads can contribute to their children's religious education. It's worth a read -- especially by fathers who tend to be out of the religion teaching loop with their kids."

How long have Father's been out of the religion teaching loop with their kids? Since Adam Reproduced Children with Eve? God did not Reproduce Children, but Reproduced Eve from Adam's Rib, Adults not Babies. Why did Adam and Eve take over Reproducing Human Babies by Heterosexual Body Birth?

Is all these Religious Writings the Science Fiction of Humans that Evolved from Apes? Where did these 'Supernatural God' Writings come from during the Evolution Theory? All these Supernatural Writings were on Earth long before the 1800s, when Humans began the Evolution Theory.

So What is Going On with Humans today? Accepting that Religion Evolved as Humans became Civilized, and no Reason can be Explained for Religious Supernatural Writings, except to describe Colonizing Earth and Reproducing a Female Clone, 'Supernaturally' by Science Fiction Writings, handed down by Generation Birth, Death and Rebirth , by Fathers to their Children?

With our High Tech today, Humans and Children Know Planets can be Colonized, and Humans can fly up in the air and out into Space, like the Religious Supernatural Gods do. But Humans do not accept High Tech Science, was on Earth 'in the beginning, but Evolved on Earth up to 1900.

It is Time for a High Tech Science Translation, or maybe it is best to be Ignorant of the Fact that today's High Tech Science Society is setting up the last Planetary Catastrophe, not the Peace Loving God, and Jesus. The Religious Prophesy of an End Times has a Last Days 'Arm'ageddon' and a Planetary Fire. The Human Species do have Nuclear Bombs on land and sea, for the Last Days War of Life on Earth.

The Planet is loaded with all types of Toxic and Nuclear Waste Pollution and Oil Spills, Coal mines, etc., that will begin Burning as the Ozone Canopy is depleted, with our Pollution. The Biblican End Times Judgment Day of how Humans took Care of their Earth Spaceship, is at Hand. The Writing is on the Wall. Who will translate it?

Cleanliness is next to Godliness for the Planet Caretaker Male and Female Clone Human Species, like God/Us in Genesis 1,2. The Killer Gods were High Tech Humans of the Supernatural Noah/Atlantis Society on Earth, like Humans today, not God/Us, our High Tech Peace Ancestor Clone Species from Space.

Where are the Equal Male and Female Adult Caretakers today? Busy in Reproducing an Overload of Children on Spaceship Earth, and Getting 'Things', with Inequality, Inhumanity, and War? Are Father's out of the teaching loop to their Children today, about a Peace God, and a Passivist Jesus who taught Males should be Celibate, and meek and mild, not Killers?

hightech2

You wrote, " High Tech Humans Know today, Humans can be reproduced in a High Tech Science Lab, even Cloning could be possible today, like God/Us, our High Tech Human Ancestors Reproduced, the Female from the Male Rib in Genesis 1,2."

But can you start with absolutely nothing and make a human or for that matter can you make a pile of dirt or a star or anything out of nothing?

You also wrote, "We Know today that Colonization and Traveling in Space, is a Big Task for High Tech Humans."

Seems as if there are some people that are extremely worried that the sun that powers earth is in imminent danger of going "out of business" in about 5 billion years, more or less, and they want to hightail it out of here, do you think it is to wreck some other "hospitable" place, if they can find one?

You also wrote, "Why should there be conflict between Religious and Atheist Humans when High Tech Science Colonization and Reproduction Knowledge are in our Society today?"

It is not between "Religious and Atheist Humans" and it is not just between humans, no matter what "label" one hangs on oneself.

People are always trying to come up with an "answer" and no matter what "answer" someone comes up with, it seems that at least part of, if not the whole of it, is to impose this "answer" on others, is this not so?

No one can live anyone else's life.

God has a Plan and God's Plan will come to Fruition.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

ChrisRR Part I

You wrote, "1. Jewish people believe in the "first sunrise" and that the Earth is 5000 years old and that the Earth was created in 6 days. But I think you already know this. You are putting your OWN interpretation forth as a counter to my terse comment."

Actually, since the sun at one time wasn't, there had to be a first sunrise, isn't this so?

You say that the Jews believe this, I don't think that this is quite so because it is from the "original meaning" that "the first day" and so on meant a "period of time", I, personally, do not know what the "Jewish people believe" but I would venture to guess that there might be various beliefs involved here.

There are some things in the bible that are quite "literal" in the words that are said and some where the words don't exactly mean what they appear to mean and some things that not literal at all but do have a meaning to pass on.

There are those that take the "days" of creation as that which we now refer to a day but from what I have heard, the original translates to mean "period of time" an "unfixed" period of time I might add and some of these same "those" do not believe Jesus when He very explicitly said and meant "This Is My Body".

In the bible when the number "one thousand" is used it may mean one thousand and it may mean "endless" since one thousand was the "biggest numeral", so to speak, that was used, sort of like someone saying a gazillion.

It is the "hard sayings" that Jesus spoke and the Apostles made mention of that some people seem to want to gloss over, some of which are: "Love one another as I have loved you", "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Forgive us as we forgive others" and miss what the bible is trying to get thru to, as my namesake said, "These are a hard-headed and stiff-necked people", have we changed much?, have we changed at all?

One of the things that truly seems a human trait is to tell "others" how they should live, what they should believe, etc., rather than living one's own life, is it not?

Jesus, most definitely, did not become One of us for us to set up a theocracy but is this not exactly what many have attempted throughout the age?

ChrisRR Part II

You also wrote, "But I am trying to get right to the point of contention - which is How the Universe was created, how old is it, how old is the Earth, was there a process of Evolution at play, etc. That is not about the Bible in general - just Genesis:1."

The bible, including Genesis:1, is not about the "How" but is more about the "Who and Why".

I am not sure if it is in Genesis 1 or not but it is in other places and that is that one of the first, if not the first, things that God created was "Wisdom".

It really strikes me as putting God in a "box" of one's own construction to say that God could not have "set up", "thought up", whatever, a "mechanism" for God's creation to unfold according to "the rules or natural laws" that God came up with.

The "universe", which includes the earth, is quite dynamic and science and scientists, I believe, are quite intrigued by both the "simplicity" and "interconnectivity", some may say complexity, that is exhibited in God's creation or if one does not believe in God then in the physical, both seen and unseen, realm.

One could say that science is about the "outer world" of man while the bible is about the "inner world" of man and man's relationship to the "outer world", other men and to the Creator and I don't think I need to say this but here "man and men" refer to humans and humanity, just as in the bible it is used that way and also at times to mean a male human being.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

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Bill: "But I feel a lot better about this sign than I would have had the banner instead quoted, say, Deuteronomy 32:23: "I will heap disasters on them; I will spend My arrows on them."

Why do Humans want to worship this type of Killer God? It is Time to Translate All Scripture and Myth with a High Tech Science Translation, and Separate the Peace God, our High Tech Science Male and Female Clone Ancestors from Space, and Passivist Celibate Jesus God, from the High Tech Killer God of the Noah/Atlantis Society in most Scripture and Myth, who were like our Killer High Tech Society the Past 100 years.

The Peace God in Genesis 1,2, is not the the Killer God in most of the Scripture and Myth written by Humans without High Tech Science. Jesus left Earth Alive with the Peace God, in a Regenerated Purebred Body in 30. Jesus was made a Man-Made God in 300, with Religious Creeds, after he left Earth Alive, with God/Us our Human Purebred Ancestors.

It is Time to Search the Scriptures to Prove the GOD that made the LIFE Elements of the Universes, is not the God/Us Humans 'in our image' in Genesis, nor Jesus, nor any of the Man-Made Religious Gods handed down to Children, from Generation Heterosexual Birth, Death, and Rebirth. High Tech Humans Know today, Humans can be reproduced in a High Tech Science Lab, even Cloning could be possible today, like God/Us, our High Tech Human Ancestors Reproduced, the Female from the Male Rib in Genesis 1,2.

Was the Terrible Killer God, of the Noah/Atlantis Society necessary, to try to keep all the Heterosexual Misbred Humans in line. This did not do very much good, as the Humans kept Killing Each Other and their Home Planet, no matter which God they accepted from their Fathers. And today we are in the Final Phase of Killing our Eco System, Ozone Layer, and All GOD LIFE on Earth, with a Planetary Fire, that our High Tech Ancestors 'Created' 'in the beginning'.

We Know today that Colonization and Traveling in Space, is a Big Task for High Tech Humans. And should realize Humans will Kill our Planet, before this High Tech Killer Species can travel very far in Space before the Planet dies. Our Pollution, Oil Spills, and Nuclear Bombs and Waste, are setting up this Religious Planetary Fire Catastrophe, with Temples to Gods, made by Human Hands still being built. Why not Take Care of GODs Temple of LIFE, our Planet and Life Species?

Why should there be conflict between Religious and Atheist Humans when High Tech Science Colonization and Reproduction Knowledge are in our Society today?
Bill: "I have long contended that science and religion should recognize that they seek to answer different questions and, thus, should not think of themselves as rivals in a perpetual conflict."

Thomas Paul Moses Baum,

What I was referring to was the LITERAL interpretation of Genesis:1. Jewish people believe in the "first sunrise" and that the Earth is 5000 years old and that the Earth was created in 6 days. But I think you already know this. You are putting your OWN interpretation forth as a counter to my terse comment.

By reading the rest of the Bible (past page 1), you would probably see things in those terms you outlined. But I am trying to get right to the point of contention - which is How the Universe was created, how old is it, how old is the Earth, was there a process of Evolution at play, etc. That is not about the Bible in general - just Genesis:1.

ChrisRR

You wrote, "Either one side or another is correct - or BOTH are wrong."

And why would you come to this conclusion?

The "fact" that God created everything and that the "days" of creation are "periods of time" and that what was tried to get across is that God created all but that the "specifics" were not what the "writer" was interested in but that a "Being" was responsible for all that is seen and unseen except for the "reality" of aforementioned "Being".

The bible is not a "science" book and was never intended to be taken as one.

The bible is about the "fact" that there is more to creation than just the physical parts of creation which includes man.

The bible is about trying to let us know that there is a "reason" for creation that goes beyond the "physicality" of creation.

In other words, God has a Plan and has had His Plan since before creation and God's Plan will come to Fruition.

Part of God's Plan was to actually become One of us, in other words to enter "time and space" at a specific point, some think that this is impossible for God to do but not only could God do this, God already has.

Take care, Be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

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The basic disagreement between science and (Judeo-Christian) religion comes down to a single page (the first page) in the Bible. Genesis:1 is the dividing line between these 2 disciplines. The (judeo)Christians believe in the literal interpretation of the creation of the Universe, while scientists dismiss it out of hand. Is there a happy medium?

Either one side or another is correct - or BOTH are wrong. In order to explore the second possibility, you would first need to come up with a new theory on the creation of the Universe. Once you had that new theory you would have to map it into Genesis:1. That's a tall order - to prove EVERYONE wrong, but it does happen.

My first book https://www.createspace.com/34065999) addresses the scientific theory part. A future book (my 3rd) will address the religion part.