I am a Muslim. I am angry, upset, mad, pissed off, sad but mostly ashamed for such polical correctness. Under God, this country has been founded with the strength of immigrants who wants liberty and justice. In the name of freedom of speech these extremists are dividing us. Just go to any mosque on Friday, you will find anti-American propagandas. I am sick of these idiots. If they hate us, Americans, so much just get the hell out of this country. No one is stopping you to create your own nation. Woops, I forgot, these idiots have no rights in their own country (Middle East). Who the heck are you to judge who will go in heaven and who will go in hell? Stop listening to your illiterate Imam’s in Mosque; they are just like Hitler pushing their idiotic ideology. I leave you with quotation from the holy Quran. If any Muslim reading this, remember the Holy Quran says it is a complete book. Quran is the only guidance.

The Quran teaches us not to distinct among believers.

[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

[5:69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

[22:17] Those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, the Christians, the Zoroastrians, and the idol worshipers, GOD is the One who will judge among them on the Day of Resurrection. GOD witnesses all things.

[22:40] They were evicted from their homes unjustly, for no reason other than saying, "Our Lord is GOD." If it were not for GOD's supporting of some people against others, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and masjids - where the name of GOD is commemorated frequently - would have been destroyed. Absolutely, GOD supports those who support Him. GOD is Powerful, Almighty.

The Quran teaches us not to divide the religion into sects.

[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of everything they had done.

[30:32] (Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.

[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubts.

yasseryousufi

You wrote, "Dear Thomas Paul Moses Baum (I dont know who you're trying to impress with this long name~~!),"

I am not trying to impress anyone, it just happens to be my real name, is yasseryousufi your real name?

You then wrote, "I know that Hollywood Movies are just fiction but havent you repeated the oft repeated quote "A Picture is worth a thousand words" "

I could be wrong but I do not think that I have ever "repeated" that quote even once on these postings.

You then wrote, "Find me an expert on this subject worth his salt who says that Hollywood doesn't contribute in making america the violent society that it is. The gory fight scenes of the American super hero Rambo killing a hundreds of vietnamese without a shred of grief. Those movies impact human minds a lot more than a book that is written in a language which more than 80% muslims cant even understand.~!"

Do you think that "these movies" have had more to do with what some have done in the "name of islam" than maybe something else?

There is violence in America and there happens to be violence in other places around the earth, seems to be a thing with us humans, doesn't it?

I suppose a place where absolutely all "freedom" is squashed would be "violence free" but it would also be populated by a bunch of robotic, dead yet still breathing people who are coerced subtly or otherwise by those that "know" what is best for "us".

If one has freedom, one has responsibilities, if one has every aspect of their life spelled out for them whether they agree or not, one has a "living death", is this not true?

It is very easy and also very human to place the blame on the "other", is it not?

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Muslims, Iraqis and Afghans in America cannot help but have conflict within themselves. They do not know that the solutions are written in their holy books, not to kill, but to win over the enemy with good. All sides need correction back to IT IS WRITTEN in their holy book. God has prepared the way for peace and correction by cross-referencing various prophets. The way is prepared when we are ready to bring God into the discussion. God promises it will get worse UNTIL we do. Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28; Qur’an, Ahmad. Number 5.68, 69; 42.14-16.

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Mr. Kahn:
Why is this whole situation about you and what you believe and want to protect. What about the murdered? What about justice for them. You are very selfish.

It high time the Muslim community quit defending their lovely religion and take a stand against their confused very dangerous members. This is expected of all other faiths. It's time to own up to why this keeps happening and quit trying to convince us all that the Koran doesn't say anything to encourage these individuals. Political correctness must not override common sense and compassion on the newly dead and their grieving families at the hand of someone who professes this faith.

Dr Khan:

First: quick testimony. I am an Irish expat, long term resident of London. I was here during the IRA bombings. I was in London when Muslims hijacked a plane and murdered 3,000 civilians at the World Trade Centre. We knew that our turn would follow. But where would it come from and how would it come?

It came from within: from our own community of Muslims. Three sons of Pakistani migrants (in demographic speak, second generation Britons) plus one 2nd generation African Caribbean convert descended into the tube (subway) and detonated themselves plus 52 others, bringing the city to a standstill and terror to its inhabitants. The next year an assortment of immigrants and the children of Pakistani immigrants attempted to blow up 10 airplanes en route to the US. The following year Muslim Indian migrants attempt to nail bomb two London nightclubs.

The first two terrorist acts (or attempted acts) had ‘training’ in Pakistan; the last—the doctors—were acting ‘alone’ whatever that means. As was Dr. Hasan. However, the context in which they acted was similar: they—all of them—believed their host country was at war with their co-religionists and their main loyalty was to their fellow Muslims.

Now, as I see it, the differences between Islamist and the IRA terror are:

• the warnings: the IRA always phoned in warnings with enough time to evacuate the targeted transport. In contrast, Islamists favoured surprise attacks, and the more mayhem the better. Nail bombing a nightclub, Dr Khan—I ask you, how barbaric is that?

• The targets: IRA sought to destroy property , Islamists target civilians.

• the terrorists’ country of origin IRA terrorists came from outside the British mainland, from Northern Ireland. Irish who lived in Scotland, England, and Wales were not involved in the terror. Islamists, in contrasts, were inhabitants—can’t really call them citizens, can we?—of the country they brutalized.

So you see Dr. Hasan fits the profile of British Islamists terrorists. That is the context in which he acted. He might of acted alone, but his divided loyalties between his host country and his religion were similar to Muslims terrorist in Britain. He is thus not a special case. .

And you are in denial if you assert the contrary.

Although I wish you well and you seem to be a good man , you need to face what really happened.

Yours sincerely,
MC.

Once again, juust in case Muqtedar Khan missed this:

Here is the Five Step Method to Deprogram/"Deflaw" 1400 years of Islamic brainwashing.

Are you ready?

Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

"1. Belief in Allah"

"aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc." should be added to your cleansing neurons.

"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gib Gnab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "creationist".

"3. To believe in the existence of angels."

A major item for neuron cleansing.
Angels/devils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hittites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ugly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Abraham, Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as fairies and "tinker bells". Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented.

"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels/"pwtfft"s to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the uneducated masses in line. Today we call them fortune tellers.
Prophecies are also invalidated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

Mohammed supposedly spent thirty days fasting in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic violence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallucinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

Accept these five "cleansers" and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

Finally - as I stumble over posts that seem like the lunatics have gotten to the computer system - finally.

Islam faces the challenge that ALL groups seem to face in America - conform and become irrelevant, or separate and remain suspect.

IF! ONLY! Islam just had a holiday late in December, with the Prophet's birth, and a tree, of some sort - and no more! Why then, we'd embrace McIslam just the same as we do with the McChristians and McJews.

It's when religions and philosophies remain stubbornly adherent to core beliefs from which they will not budge - well, they remain suspect.

If only Islam would - would mean nothing, and love everyone, and accept everyone's beliefs no matter what they are, and become nothing more than a swoosh-trademark for Muslim, Inc., then we would hug it to our materialistic breast, and join Muslims onto our holiday card-and-shopping list, in the way that Chanukah and Kwanzaa is - we respect "their Christmas too."

The "total submission part" we like, it's got us intrigued. Once Muslims can change it from the Allah fellow, to the American Monolithic Consumer Society, why then - we'll even make up your own Islamic Mastercard (no interest, of course.)

I have a very hard question to ask Mr. Khan.

This Major, Dr. Hasan, clearly betrayed Islam.

But did the Muslim Community in America betray him - let him slide into wrong, madness and heresy, hate insanity and apartheid - out of its own fearfulness?

I note Mr. Walton's self-satisfied rhetoric which equates Islam with the terrorists who commit atrocities against civilization and decency, and yes, atrocities which offend the very core of true Muslim beliefs.

I find, regrettably, that my religion Christianity forbids me to luxuriate in my own wrath and self-deluded importance.  It commands me to know myself and serve others.  It is suspiciously similar to Islam (which, in my opinion, is more properly a heresy of Christianity than a separate religion per se.)

Perhaps I have something of a "distorted" view of Christianity - as unfamiliar as the "fundamentalist Wahabi" versions of Islam.  Fortunately for Mr. Walton, I assure you that "Christianity" seems to be but a historical artefact left over from the settlements of over 300 years ago, and nobody actually believes in it anymore.  Well, damn few of us.

So do not fear, Mr. Khan - if true Christianity were to break out in the US, it would be seen as much of a foreign threat as Islam.  But, unlike the methods of history, why - there is no need to ban and burn the Gospels - just put them right out there on the coffee table, next to the bed, anywhere?  Don't worry, for some reason there's not a chance that people might actually understand and obey the teachings of the Little Rabbi who died for our sins.

Re: "Since the election of President Obama, Islamophobic rhetoric was on the decline as people in key administrative positions abstained from using "Islamic" as a prefix when talking about issues related with the war on terror."

"Islamophobic"???? It's not unreasonable to dis extremists that have voiced hatred of all that is not in accordance with their Sharia and practice its depredations on our soil.

It is interesting how mainstream media like The Washington Post and New York times have failed to provide coverage of honor killings which have occurred in the US since Obama took charge. Can't anger B. Husein and still expect face time at the White House, I suppose.

As a Christian, Major Khan, I thank you for your writing.

Nothing on this Earth which is subject to free and independent will can be purely Good or Evil.  I know that Islam shares this with Christianity and Judaism. 

God has yet to set a brand upon any of us which suffices to be his testimony of character.  There are good people and wicked people, and any gathering of people, whether political, geographic or religious, will contain the good and the wicked.

It is human nature, I suppose, to recoil in shock and denial over finding a wicked person in one's midst.  It is far better to push him to the "Enemy Camp," so that he can be derided.

Major Hasan was a doctor, an officer, an American and a human being.  These things make us uncomfortable; they would place him in "our camp."  Let us therefore push him into some foreign category, so that we need not bother with introspection.

One of the greatest Prophets in Islam, Injil, spoke and it is written in one of the holy books of Islam:

Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

 I, of course, know it as the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew.  I believe, and will honor and obey the words of Jesus.  I wish to take the speck out of my brother's eye - but I still have the log in my own.

Every human being on this earth is a child of the Savior, and I am called upon to act accordingly.

Islam is not the enemy. It is not pure - as it is comprised of people with free will. There are wicked and sinful Muslims, as there are wicked and sinful Christians. My orders are not to punish those who I find unworthy; rather, my orders are to become worthy in the eyes of God, first and foremost.

I note that Mr. Khan devotes much of his article to making excuses for hasan, such as "he was frequently taunted and harassed for being a Muslim". Where is the evidence of this harassment? This is just a flimsy excuse. Mr. Khan is is full "damage control" mode, claiming that Americans will target American muslims with anger and hatred and he wants us to be nice. Nowhere does he ask American muslims to stop killing other Americans. Nor does Mr. Khan say that American muslims should work against radical islamists to keep America safe. He is just looking out for the muslims, not Americans.

Give me a break, Dr. Khan. Give me a break.

Once again, Georgetowner1 noted:

"I would like to shed some light on the Islam part: Islam DOES NOT condone killing anyone let alone innocent people who have no idea whats coming. Meaning, the only time you can kill is when there is declared war. Last time that happened was ... umm, actually I dont even remember (yes which means ALL other killings by Muslims are isolated remote lone incidents)"

Au contraire!!!!

1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops, 3,469 killed action and 871 non-combat and 93,040 – 101,537 Iraqi civilians killed,

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

8) UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

10) Operation Enduring Freedom in
Afghanistan: US troops killed in action 562, 176 killed in non-combat situations as of 9/02/09

11) the 13 USA citizen soldiers killed at Ft. Hood.

To summarize:

Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the massacre in Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.

And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

Current crises:

The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

"yasseryousufi

Do you realize that a "Hollywood flick" is just that a movie and not real?
Unless I misunderstand you, how could something that is fake be 100 times "more violent" than something that happened in the real world?
Take care, be ready.
Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum."

Dear Thomas Paul Moses Baum (I dont know who you're trying to impress with this long name~~!), I know that Hollywood Movies are just fiction but havent you repeated the oft repeated quote "A Picture is worth a thousand words" Find me an expert on this subject worth his salt who says that Hollywood doesn't contribute in making america the violent society that it is. The gory fight scenes of the American super hero Rambo killing a hundreds of vietnamese without a shred of grief. Those movies impact human minds a lot more than a book that is written in a language which more than 80% muslims cant even understand.~!

yasseryousufi

You wrote, "GutterThinking,
I'll stick to my point~! Ever watched a Hollywood flick? Its 100 times more violent."

Do you realize that a "Hollywood flick" is just that a movie and not real?

Unless I misunderstand you, how could something that is fake be 100 times "more violent" than something that happened in the real world?

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Yasseryousufi wrote:
Ever watched a Hollywood flick? Its 100 times more violent.

Hollywood scripts are often written by unprincipled and undisciplined, sexually depraved writers who use violence to promote themselves and accumulate power and wealth.

That does not sound like the writer of the Koran does it?

P.S. I wonder how "Islamic scholars" interpret the phrase "fight and kill nonbelievers" in sura 9:verse 5. We know how millions of muslims have interpreted that phrase for a thousand years. Still looking for intellectual content in the Koran? Try science.

Hmmm, Georgetowner1 noted:

"I would like to shed some light on the Islam part: Islam DOES NOT condone killing anyone let alone innocent people who have no idea whats coming. Meaning, the only time you can kill is when there is declared war. Last time that happened was ... umm, actually I dont even remember (yes which means ALL other killings by Muslims are isolated remote lone incidents)"

Au contraire!!!!

1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops, 3,469 killed action and 871 non-combat and 93,040 – 101,537 Iraqi civilians killed, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

8) UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

10) Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops killed in action 562, 176 killed in non-combat situations as of 9/02/09

11) the 11 USA citizen soldiers killed at Ft. Hood.

To summarize:

Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the massacre in Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.

And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

Current crises:

The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

I am a Christian and I say to blame Muslims at large for the actions of those who insist on interpreting the Koran in a twisted manner to justify their violent actions is wrong. Just as it is not fair to call Christians bigots because the Klu Klux Klan claimed to be Christians and killed in God's name, so it is with people who claim to be Muslim committing atrocities. During WWII, Japanese and Germans living in the US were persecuted because the Japan and Germany governments tried for world domination. Everyone's sorry now about those "detention" camps that they threw the Japanese-Americans into but you can still read about it on Wikipedia if you're interested.

hi all,

I'm a Muslim. This act at Fort Hood was horrible and nothing can justify it. I see everyone's comments and I see we are all hurt, why wouldnt we be.

I would like to shed some light on the Islam part: Islam DOES NOT condone killing anyone let alone innocent people who have no idea whats coming. Meaning, the only time you can kill is when there is declared war. Last time that happened was ... umm, actually I dont even remember (yes which means ALL other killings by Muslims are isolated remote lone incidents)

Even Muslims dont interpret the Koran directly. Meaning we always go to scholars who interprets, so we dont ever take a verse from the Koran and say, "aha, THATs what it means". The main reason for this is that laymen (like myself) can MIS-interpret it. The verses some of you quoted DONT mean to kill non-Mulims or non-Believers, or ANYONE :) that is a gross mis-interpretation of the verse.
Instead, if you look at the WHOLE Koran and the sayings of our Prophet, you'll find that Islam believes killing just ONE person means you've killed everyone in civilization.

So now, I know I wont change your mind if you're a "hater" :) meaning no matter what logic or proof anyone presents, you'll still blame Islam. I actually speak to the ones who seek truth (and I see a few people on this forum doing that).

Hope I was able to clarify some points about WHY Islam isnt the reason he did this.

Why did he then? why dont we ask some deeper questions? some "Systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_thinking)" questions?

Lukin4intellect ... I know its here somewhere! :)

Excellent point.
Let us read the Koran.
Koran chaper 9 verse 5:
"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and kill the nonbelievers wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."
Fight and Kill.
Hmmmmmmm. Religion o' peace?

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GutterThinking,

I'll stick to my point~! Ever watched a Hollywood flick? Its 100 times more violent.

Nosiryousuni wrote:
How do we know he was motivated by Islam and not Hollywood~!

Excellent point.
Let us read the Koran.
Koran chaper 9 verse 5:
"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and kill the nonbelievers wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."

Fight and Kill.
Hmmmmmmm. Religion o' peace?

Hmmm, Zebra4, someone's shadow???

Why is the U.S. press still trying to treat Islam like any other religion when its members should really be treated as potential enemy combatants? What other religion's main holy book tells them to spread the territory of Sharia by force and to kill any infidels who resist, while its god personally promises unbelievers torture in Hell and true believer jihadists paradise? The enlightened West that has evolved beyond the Age of Religion has been trying to teach Muslims to chuck all that, but the Ft. Hood case proves that even a lifetime of education can be overridden by Allah's orders to kill infidels like mangy dogs.

The problem with the Western media as well as the general pop. is ignorance of the history of the rise, spread and beliefs of Islam back 1400 years, softening them up into mixing Islam up with a mere religion when it's a total world domination system, as well as Muslim disinfo. artists who want mass Muslim immigration for the same reason. Where can you catch up fast online for free to arm your mind with facts? Try the Historyscoper at http://go.to/islamhistory

vikaspriyanka:

And with your diatribe against Muslims you are a black mark on Hinduism and India.

Why: BECAUSE GUILT BY ASSOCIATION IS ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL.

ISLAM is a liability to mankind.

"How do we know he was motivated by Islam and not Hollywood~!"

Probably a good clue was he was shouting Allah Akbar while shooting and not "May the force be with you."

"there are over 10,000 Muslims in the U.S. military who serve loyally, with sincere and complete commitment."

"This was an unpredictable and isolated episode, impossible to anticipate and guard against."

How do we know?

"There is nothing that American Muslims can do to prevent such events."

BS...the Moslem community could do much more. The Moslem community could cease it's cpnstant effortrs to wall themselves off from American society and quit using religious freedom as a defense for attempting to set up their own mini-states in every neighborhood they sequester themselves in.

Actually, he was probably motivated by secondary PSTD, coupled with bullying from fellow soldiers about his religion. This is NOT condoning what he did. But, until he regains consciousness and starts talking to the investigators, we'll never get the full story. Eyewitness accounts are generally unreliable, especially when someone is in fear of their life.

How do we know he was motivated by Islam and not Hollywood~!