This sounds more like an analysis of the political left in this country. Fortunately, the influx of Muslims into the US will spawn a war between the left and Muslims, who are the alligator at the beginning of the line these yellow libs are trying not to get eaten by. I see a future alliance between Christians and Muslims defending their mutual rights in the US to denounce homos and hate crimes. I see the libs conflicted, wanting to lash out but being terribly afraid, becuase unlike thier Christian victims, the left will be the target of a Fatwah.

The Muslims will eat the left alive. They're not feminists. They're not homo loving like my Episcopalians. They will take our pluralist ideals and shove them up the arses of the left - in militant form.

I really don't want this, but the left has weakened society so much its inevitable.

hsnkhwj:

You remind me of nothing, happily. I suspect you are incapable of the thinking and reflecting I asked of you. If and when I see evidence of it, I will reply.

For now, be aware, that flaming, childish name-calling, etc., do not make an argument. That you should choose to build yours on the exploited, prositituted refugee children who have fled from Iraq does not speak well for you.

If I were you, I'd give it a rest for now. Perhaps, you are not yourself.

"Recommendation: Read and reflect before posting again. You have no argument, and you are not making yourself look good."

Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | May 21, 2009 9:52 AM

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You remind me of your rhetorical skirmishes with CCNL.

You are so superficial.

hsnkhwj

"Evidently, you never heard of organized pedophile groups in America, Europe, Thailand, India and many other places. It does not mean all Americans, Europeans or Thais are pedophiles. Unfortunately, it is a big business."

The point is not that there aren't pedophiles everywhere. Pedophilia is also not uncommon in the Middle East, where I was born.

That is not the point. (Duh)

We are speaking of one horrific phenomenon, easily ended by the wealthy nations, such as Qatar, Kuwati, the Emirates, even Saudi Arabia, which, instead, chooses to rape these hapless children.

THERE is NO EXCUSE, NO JUSTIFICATION, NO LESSONING OF THIS SINGULAR and NAUSEATING SITUATION by any RHETORICAL FEEL-GOOD OR FEEL-BADISM.

Recommendation: Read and reflect before posting again. You have no argument, and you are not making yourself look good.

hsnkhwj writes to Nosmanic:

"Do you know how to write? Your sentences are incoherent and I couldn't figure out what you were saying."
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Not only does that blogger know how to write, but his/her comments show he/she knows how to read and think, skills that your remarks, thus far, fail to indicate are in your possession.

Kindly read, think, and reflect before posting again.

"Shame on you. Shame. Shame on this country for creating this problem. Shame on the child rapists.

And shame, shame on you."

Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | May 21, 2009 8:55 AM"

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Great! Now you took out the steam out of your chest!

Evidently, you never heard of organized pedophile groups in America, Europe, Thailand, India and many other places. It does not mean all Americans, Europeans or Thais are pedophiles. Unfortunately, it is a big business.

There is no excuse for deviant behavior no matter where it occurs and by who it occurs.

hsnkhwj,

Re: Your post

This is a literate blog. Distorting, demonizing, and taking out of context don't do it.

If one is going to cherry pick, a "stupid" thing to do, to use your word, then you should consider the implications of what you "picked." We are not talking about a few men. We are talking about the exploitation of thousands of children not by a "society," but by men from all over the Middle East.

Why is it that those nations with fabulous wealth are not reaching out to help those boys and girls? Where are YOU in this?

You use these children to flame?

Shame on you. Shame. Shame on this country for creating this problem. Shame on the child rapists.

And shame, shame on you.

"The problem is some radical will (probably mis)interpret some part of the Koran as "women that show they're hair will be raped" and piss people off. Then the zealot will say "your attacking my religion" it happens all the time."

Posted by: Nosmanic | May 21, 2009 2:11 AM

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Do you know how to write? Your sentences are incoherent and I couldn't figure out what you were saying.

hsnkhwj

The problem is some radical will (probably mis)interpret some part of the Koran as "women that show they're hair will be raped" and piss people off. Then the zealot will say "your attacking my religion" it happens all the time.

Just do not build a Sunni mosque in a Shiite neighborhood or vice versa anywhere in the USA or elsewhere.

SEEKING JUSTICE IN COURTS OF LAW IS (AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN) THE AMERICAN WAY.

FOR TOO LONG AMERICAN MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO INUENDOS, INTIMIDATIONS, AND MALIGNING BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW COMPLAINING ABOUT LAW SUITS IN FORUMS LIKE THIS.

IF YOU DON"T HARASS, LIBEL, OR INTIMIDATE MUSLIMS OR ANYBODY ELSE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LAWSUITS. WHY DO YOU WANT TO SUPPRESS JUSTICE?

Farnaz Mansouri wrote:

"Speaking of sex, I did not see in your posting anything about the Iraqi boy and girl refugees prostituting themselves in Damascus to feed themselves and their families. There clients? Men from all over the Middle East....."
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You seem to have zero knowledge of sociology. Nobody can claim that there is any society in the world that does not have its share of deviants, criminals, and crooks. The sheer fact that you demand utopia from any group of people is the height of stupidity.

Did you watch the rise in domestic violencve in America on CBS Evening News?
Does it mean all America is violent?

As for as lawfare is concerned, Daniel Pipes and his ilk should know better. This is America. If you try to stop the building of a mosque on legally authorized place or call those Muslims "terrorists" who want to build them, you WILL BE TAKEN TO A COURT OF LAW.

That is the purpose of courts.

Farnaz Mansouri wrote:

"Speaking of sex, I did not see in your posting anything about the Iraqi boy and girl refugees prostituting themselves in Damascus to feed themselves and their families. There clients? Men from all over the Middle East....."
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You seem to have zero knowledge of sociology. Nobody can claim that there is any society in the world that does not have its share of deviants, criminals, and crooks. The sheer fact that you demand utopia from any group of people is the height of stupidity.

Did you watch the rise in domestic violencve in America on CBS Evening News?
Does it mean all America is violent?

As for as lawfare is concerned, Daniel Pipes and his ilk should know better. This is America. If you try to stop the building of a mosque on legally authorized place or call those Muslims "terrorists" who want to build them, you WILL BE TAKEN TO A COURT OF LAW.

That is the purpose of courts.

Curtailing of free speech is an Islamic dogma just like Jihad. For the past 1428 years the Muslim clerics who have a vested interest in maintaining and spreading their faith had discouraged critical study of their religion by the laymen and monopolized the interpretation of their sacred texts. With the advent of the Information Revolution through satellite TV and the internet, those clerics can no longer block or filter information for those who wish to critically study their belief system. Now the Organization of Islamic Clerics appeal to the United Nations to censor the world in matters pertaining to the Muslim’s dogmas and tenants as well as the history of their prophet, under the juvenile pretense of “Respect for religions”. Since when had the Muslim been respectful of other religions and to their adherents? On the contrary, disrespect of other faiths and intolerance toward their adherents are defining features of that religion.

Hello Walter,

I replied to your questions on Susan's loongg thread!

Farnaz

Shark2,

Why not check out the Pipes debates on Aljazeera? Look at some of his books. I can't say you will agree with him on many things, but I don't think he is what you take him for.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I have read him on Islam, and he is not an free-wheeling, idiotic basher, in fact, respects moderate Islam, moderate everything. He is not Haredi, not an extremist.

If I started posting every antisemitic Jew-hating Muslim site here, when would I end?

And what if I started posting all the anti-Christians throughout Asia and Pakistan?

And what if I started posting all the Christian anti-Muslim web sites?

The Hindu anti-Muslim web sites?

I think that Daniel Pipes might seem the epitome of reason....

At least, check him out on Aljazeera before you reach final conclusions.

farnaz,
check susan's (loooong) thread. i posed you an off-topic question (or two...)

Farnaz1Mansouri1

Daniel writes in one dozen papers and his only subject is Islam and muslim bashing.
a very smart and calibrated efforts indeed.

shark2,
i think the reason you find daniel pipes so unsettling is because HE'S RIGHT. islam, as interpreted and practiced by enough muslism that it's a problem is horrible.

Hmmm, finding the Baha'ist cult as being strange is hardly hating them. Many find those that believe in Santa Clause as being strange but they do not hate children, the major element of Santa believers.

Shark2,

Have you ever seen Daniel Pipes on Al-Jazeera? The last debate was quite interesting.

Did you know he appears there? If not, you might want to check it out. Some of the transcripts are available at Aljazeera.

Shark2,

There are some curious omissions in your posting. For one, the story re-capped in "Arabian Sex Tourism," was originally published in The Times of India.

Speaking of sex, I did not see in your posting anything about the Iraqi boy and girl refugees prostituting themselves in Damascus to feed themselves and their families. There clients? Men from all over the Middle East.

How do I know? A close Pakistani friend who saw it with his own eyes, since, frankly, I could not believe what I was reading on the Web. Btw., do you mean to say that Pipes doesn't mention it?

You lost me at Hello. When you write this sort of thing, "David pipes and his team certainly is a bunch of hate-mongers, jewish in nature" you lose me forever.

Shall I reply by posting lists of hate mongers "muslim in nature"? If I started with antisemitic Muslim organizations, individuals, web sites, American alone, where would I end, and when?

I do not think Daniel Pipes is a hate monger. I think he is a strategist, and a smart one. I don't support everything he says and does.

On the other hand, Shark2, where were American Muslim organizations, and they existed, when my family's friend Ismael was killed, murdered, in front of me when I was a girl by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard? They were "taking him into custody." His blood spattered on my clothes.

Is what they did to that gentle man "muslim in nature"?

And then you have a fellow traveler, CCNL, posting, he who hates the Bahai, along with Muslims.

Do you want to tell us how the Bahai are doing these days in Iran? Is their persecution "muslim in nature"?

Still, the First Amendment protects your right to freedom of speech. It even protects ccnl's. The price we all have to pay....

Farnaz1Mansouri1

There are several hundred jewish organisations to protect vested intrests.
It is strange that you can not digest one
CAIR.
David pipes and his team certainly is a bunch of hate-mongers, jewish in nature.
Read :
Dhimmitude at British Midland Airways
by Daniel Pipes
Arabian Sex Tourism
by Daniel Pipes
Strange Sex Stories from the Muslim World
by Daniel Pipes
see what is hate mongering and who is doing it and you are one of them too.

Even the US president is not spared by these hate mongers such as daniel pipes the boss of Brooke Goldstein and Aaron Eitan Meyer writes:
"Finally, there is the issue of Obama's personal connection to Islam. During the campaign, he denounced discussion of his connections to Islam as "fear-mongering," and those exploring this subject found themselves vilified. He so severely discouraged use of his middle name, Hussein, that John McCain apologized when a warm-up speaker at a campaign event dared mention "Barack Hussein Obama." After the election, the rules changed dramatically, with the oath of office administered to "Barack Hussein Obama" and the new president volunteering, "I have Muslim members of my family, I have lived in Muslim countries."

It's bad enough that family connections to Islam perceived as a liability when campaigning are suddenly exploited once in office to win Muslim goodwill. Worse, as Diana West observes: "not since Napoleon has a leader of a Western superpower made so unabashed a political pitch to the people of the Muslim world."

To sum up, while Obama's retreat from democratization marks an unfortunate and major change in policy, his apologetic tone and apparent change in constituency present a yet more fundamental and worrisome direction."

Again, after a recent review of the many global cults, one can isolate a few strange ones with respect to political activities.

e.g.

And what would the Baha'ist cult do about Islamist "lawfare"??

Nothing as they are not permitted to be "political".

There are several hundred jewish organisations to protect vested intrests.
It is strange that you can not digest one
CAIR.
David pipes and his team is certainly is a bunch of hate-mongers and jewish in nature.
read by daniel pipes:
Dhimmitude at British Midland Airways
by Daniel Pipes

Arabian Sex Tourism
by Daniel Pipes
Strange Sex Stories from the Muslim World
by Daniel Pipes

see what is hate mongering and who is doing it and you are one of them too.

Shark2,

Not only is what you have written not "substantiated," it is incoherent. It is also bigoted from your first sentence on.

Nevertheless, your write to bigoted speech is protected by the First Amendment, which neither you nor CAIR will render nugatory.

Farnaz1Mansouri1

I do not think that you can ever be impartial and hence in a position to pass
judgement what I am.

What I have written is substaintiated, however while you strongly support the jewish viewpoints in your posts it is futile to expect anything different when the writers are Jews.

Shark2,

Neither of these bloggers is a "hate monger." If we are to judge by your three postings, you certainly are.

But you are permitted by the First Amendment to spew, along with CAIR. Neither you nor CAIR will render the First Amendment nugatory.

Farnaz1Mansouri1 writes:

You don't have to discuss "hate and harm theories" (sic), as your post is an instance of "hate" with intent to "harm."
Your "cancer[ous]" post is enabled by the First Amendment. Neither you nor CAIR will render it nugatory.

WOW!

Wounds inflected by tounge are deeper than knife and hard to heal.
Would you dare to shed your prejudices and tell the same, what you told me, to
hate-mongers Brooke Goldstein and Aaron Eitan Meyer.

Freedom of speech and Jewish tolerance.

Quotes:

Richard Williamson must have known exactly what he was doing, in front of a camera crew, when he repeated what he had said in Canada twenty years ago: I do not belief in the deliberate extermination of six million Jews in Nazi gas chambers during World War II.

Reaction to free speech!

JERUSALEM (CNN) — Jewish officials in Israel and abroad are outraged that Pope Benedict XVI has decided to lift the excommunication of a British bishop who denies that Jews were killed in Nazi gas chambers.

Benedict, the first German pope in 500 years, has faced a fierce backlash from his home country for reversing the excommunication of a bishop who has questioned whether the Nazis systematically killed 6 million Jews during the Holocaust.

Shark2 writes:

"I dont want to discuss here hate and harm theories vs freedom of speech but just want to say that actions depends on intentions and when the intentions are malicious then dont hide them under the guise of freedom of speech."

You don't have to discuss "hate and harm theories" (sic), as your post is an instance of "hate" with intent to "harm."

Your "cancer[ous]" post is enabled by the First Amendment. Neither you nor CAIR will render it nugatory.

Is your brand of free speech fit to the definition of Cancer?

Cancer is a class of diseases in which a group of cells display uncontrolled growth (division beyond the normal limits), invasion (intrusion on and destruction of adjacent tissues), and sometimes metastasis (spread to other locations in the body via lymph or blood).

A river which flows within its banks is benificial for the living beings but the one which over flows freely brings destruction to the society.

I dont want to discuss here hate and harm theories vs freedom of speech but just want to say that actions depends on intentions and when the intentions are malicious then dont hide them under the guise of freedom of speech.

The authors of this article are known for their hate-mongering and need to be condemned. We dont recognise them as champions of free speech.

Uqba,

Hmmm...But even a jewel cannot compete for attention with the NBA.

So it goes, jewel and basketball wise.

Farnaz :)

Farnaz,

You are jewel to me and I consider you a good friend despite our political differences. I need to do some chores though while I watch some NBA. Take care.

uqba

UKBA,

PS. The reputation of CAIR is not what one would hope. Here is a Copt web site link.

http://amcoptic.com/temp/testresult.php?cx=partner-pub-6589452387450316%3A6o6bkwajmye&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=CAIR&sa=Search#494

Hello UKBA,

Yes, well, quotation marks would have helped. I think you should read Pipes' books for yourself. I'm aware of his reputation among some, but the simple fact is that he has no problem with moderate Islam or moderate anything else. He is not Haredi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

Btw., Did you see him on Aljazeera?

And are there any Zionists unlike him? Actually, it's erroneous to speak of Zionism in the singular. It is more accurate to speak of Zionism(s).

Do you know what Zion means?

UKBA (notice I'm using your preferred spelling), this isn't a rhetorical question. We are positioned differently, understand some things differently, but we can communicate, so I'm trying to communicate.

So, are you.

Even though I still think you should re-register under your actual, beautiful name, a matter I will drop for now.

Sincerely,
Farnaz

this is a little bit like islamists using cell phones and the internet against us. islamic culture, detesting science as it does, cannot develop any new technology on their own. same with moral laws, they've developed nothing new in 1000 yrs, but they can use our developments against us.

Paganplace, Paganplace, Paganplace,

Pause and think about who may or not be a Baha'ist on these threads.

As I have said before:

Even tho there have been many thru the ages that have attempted to set up a "Christian theocracy" that is going against what Jesus so plainly and simply taught.

However, what the god of islam revealed to Mohammed is to set up a theocracy on earth with expantionist tendencies, as in the whole planet.

I would like to add that Judaism, at least ancient Judaism, was set up as a theocracy but as a "contained" theocracy.

Whether people have eyes to see and/or ears to hear, it should be obvious what the goals of islam are, considering that they haven't changed, just the methods.

As it says in the bible, even the forces of evil are inadvertently working toward God's Will and it is God's Will that ALL BE SAVED.

As I have also said before: God chosing and forming the Jews is part of God's Plan, God becoming One of us in the person of Jesus is part of God's Plan, God inviting us to be active participants in God's Plan when Jesus extended the invitation to "Come follow Me" is part of God's Plan.

God has had His Plan since before creation and His Plan will come to Fruition.

God's Plan is for ALL to be with Him in His Kingdom, the new heavens and the new earth.

I repeat: God wins, satan loses, a tie is unacceptable.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Speaking as a representative of a faith group that openly recognizes having Gods and Goddesses of war, I feel it's a matter of public service to mention that it doesn't *smell* as 'glorious' as it looks in your Left behind movies.

Farnaz,

“Be careful about throwing around the word "Jewish." What goes round comes round, as you know.”

“To use your language, you do not serve your cause making cause with Islamic Crusaders, Islamic racist loonies, etc. Feel better now? Fondly, Farnaz, Your Friend and Mortal Enemy”

Gee, where did that come from? Take it easy, will you.

The words you were referring to are not mine. It is part of Richard Silverstein on his blog http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/ I figured you might want to visit his blog and read the rest of it yourself. My mistake if I was in a hurry and did not put his words in quote marks. He is Jewish as you might’ve guessed and I like his views on ME matters. He is not the type ‘my tribe is right no matter what’ which I very much appreciate. I believe in peaceful coexistence.

We disagree on Daniel Pipes. He is a bigot no matter what you say and thank God for the people from CAIR who work diligently to shame all of those bigots, Islamphobes, and those Zionists like him.

I dunno... Maybe I can spell this out in linear terms you can understand, CCNL:

If you *kill* or allow to be killed, everyone and every 'thing' what isn't of your religion... then insist that people of your own religion make as many 'human lives' as possible...

Who the Hel do you think is gonna end up *being* those children?

Mother of the Gods. Think it through.

You're not that big. :)

And as CCNL's single brain cell struggles vainly for life, it asks

WWHD?

What Would Hiteler Do?

And what do those people do who want to know more of CCNL's thinking?

C.Christian Nut-Louse. The New in the New Testament. Antarctica: Antarctic UP, 1957.

Available in Deep Drifts, Antarctica. Starting at $1.29. (ending at $1.34)

Gives information on rites, rituals, holidays, why African American Presidents should not speak at Notre Dame, why elderly men have proprietary rights to women's wombs, why it is necessary to crusade agains Mulsims, based on the C.Christian Nut-Lousian reading.

"And what would the Baha'ists do about Islamist "lawfare"?? Nothing as they are not permitted to be "political". "

Who *cares,* CCNL?

Frankly, they make better neighbors than your lot does, (literally, as well as rhetorically,) and are less likely to shoot me in the back if I *do* come to defending you against the bogeymen of your xenophobia.

If you manage to bring your fondest fears to life, I have no problem defending *them* of all people, against the *revolting horror* people like you have made of our fair planet.

Actually.

Like with Tibetan Budhists in various imaginary scenarioes, I'd just look over and say, 'I'm doing this cause I'm just being that person right now. It's not on you. Increase the peace.'

Gods. Is this *hard* for you or something?

And what would the Baha'ists do about Islamist "lawfare"?? Nothing as they are not permitted to be "political".

For those that might want to join a Baha'ist "cell", some thoughts:

The top ten reasons why you should become (or not) a (Haifan) Baha'ist.

"10. No nooky!! No way, no how!

9: No booze! No, you might be having fun and you wouldn't
want that.

8: No politics. No, you wouldn't want to involve yourself
in a good, healthy way that might actually improve the lives
of the people in your community.

7: Suffering. Yes, suffering. No Baha'i gathering is complete without the friends recounting how they have suffered for their faith.

6: Silly Christians go to church. There, through outmoded
'rituals' usually led by a 'clergymen' which Baha'is don't
have, they often find themselves enriched and revitalized.
Some even think they have communed with their God. If only
they knew that if they were Baha'is they could go to a 19 day
Feasts, a dreary, boring business meeting usually punctuated
by some personal arguments. Some go on all night.

5: Ridvan meetings: YES THEY DO GO ON ALL NIGHT. WE WILL
GET SOMEONE TO BECOME THE TREASURER WHETHER THEY LIKE OR NOT, DAMNIT!

4: You get to do all sorts of things you don't want to do,
like be the treasurer and spend the next year haranging the
friends for money.

3: LSA Meetings. They are held at least once a week, they
last for several hours.

2: You get hit up for money, you get hit up for money. The
new world order needs money, your money, it's an honor to
bankrupt yourself for the Faith.

1: You'll never have to bother your silly little brain by
thinking again! All that hard brainwork had been done for you by the great "Babs"."

http://www.geocities.com/baahith/Topten.html

UKBA,

Correction to previous post:

Meant to write: "NEITHER to Pipes nor to CAIR."

UKBA,

BTW., Pipes has many Christian supporters, not a small number of Catholics, and guess what, some Muslims. He has taken exception to points raised by Daniel Brumberg regarding Islam. I have personally heard him speak and was surprised at how devoid of polemics his talk was. People, including our president, use speech strategically. I have also read several of Pipes' books. Some of what he writes I strongly disagree with. Not all. Definitely not all.

Do not forget, I grew up in a Muslim country. Pipes has no problem with moderate Islam, moderate anything. On that point, he has been consistent.

Don't believe everything you read. Read the man for himself. This essay is my first introduction NEITHER to Brumberg nor to CAIR.

Be careful about throwing around the word "Jewish." What goes round comes round, as you know.

Your ?,
Farnaz

UKBA,

Surely we will never wed. I don't think Pipes is an Islamophobe by any means, although he has been fiercely polemical at times.

I've seen him debate self-professed Islamic experts (Muslims) and make short shrift of the. He is thoroughly familiar with Quoran and has read it in Arabic, indeed has studied Islam on both the undergraduate and graduate levels at Harvard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

To argue that CAIR is not trying to thwart free speech is pointless. Its record speaks for itself.

Daniel Pipes may have strong positions, but I've never known him to use the intimidation tactics of CAIR.

To use your language, you do not serve your cause making cause with Islamic Crusaders, Islamic racist loonies, etc.

Feel better now?

Fondly,
Farnaz, Your Friend and Mortal Enemy

Heollo Farnaz, I am sorry I did not get back to you earlier. I hope you are well.

About Senator Arlen Specter:
There are times when people use free speech to smear and demonize a whole section of a population for different reasons be it religious, political and social class. Daniel Pipes is a known islamaphobe who used fear, lies and paranoia to defame Muslims everywhere. He uses stereotypes to fan the flames of hatred. He is a sick person. If Senator Arlen Specter accepted to be at Daniel Pipes islamaphobes get together then had cold feet and decided not to attend such a gathering then I say good for him. There are conscientious people out there, among them Richard Silverstein of Tikun Olam and others, who have a moral backbone to call things the way they are:

Richard Silverstein Wrote earlier:

I hope that Pennsylvanians and Pennsylvania bloggers will pick up on Specter’s involvement with this execrable anti-Muslim project and warn him away from making such a political blunder. Arlen, you’ve made common cause with a bunch of Jewish loonies. Someone should stop you before you hurt yourself. I know you’re a tired old geezer who’s lost his way politically and otherwise, but that’s no excuse. And man, do the Democrats have some soul-searching to do about embracing this exemplar of self-righteousness, self-interest, and self-absorption.

Today He wrote:

Thank God there are a few D.C. politicians who can be embarrassed into doing the right thing. Arlen Specter had been hoodwinked by Daniel Pipes into addressing his conference on “lawfare,” the alleged phenomenon of Muslim intimidation of its opponents through lawsuits and other types of harassment.

Matt Duss reported on this and CAIR picked it up and ran a petition campaign attempting to educate the senator about the bedfellows with whom he was about to lie down. Word came yesterday from CAIR that Specter thought better and developed a sudden scheduling conflict that prevented his participation.

Now if we can only do the same with Chuck Schumer, who seems to believe that making cause with Jewish pogromists will help his political standing in New York.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/

"The ultimate aim of Islamists is not merely to silence individual critics, but to compel everyone to adhere, overtly or otherwise, to the Shari'ah-derived norms espoused by the OIC. The strategy is to use any and all tools to achieve this end, be they predatory defamation lawsuits, 'hate speech' laws, or international resolutions."

Christianists do this, too. They just want it in *their* brand, ... they're terrified they might even be exposed as perpetrating hate speech, as if that gave our government right to silence them.

The way to fight this in America isn't in fact to single out Islam, but rather for all of us to to stand strongly and unequivocally for civility and pluralism, not to argue who has the 'right' to be unquestioned in their intolerance.

The Religious Right in America seeks to use our very liberty to undermine Liberty, in just the same wise. They only notice it when someone else tries it, though.

If America refuses intolerance and religious bigotry of all kinds as America is meant to, then I, perhaps the 'least of the companye' by some standards, as a queer Pagan, well, I'll stand out front against those who you fear would abuse it.

If you'll stand behind me.

But not if you make this about different brands of the same damn thing.

"When CAIR discovered that Senator Arlen Specter was scheduled to speak at the Libel Lawfare conference, it began circulating a petition demanding that he not speak - echoing its calls for the removal of Florida House Majority Leader Adam Hasner after he committed the 'crime' of allowing Dutch Parliamentarian, filmmaker and anti-Islamist advocate Geert Wilders to speak at a recent free speech conference in Florida. Ironically, Senator Specter withdrew from the conference before CAIR began to circulate its petition."

Frankly, this is scary. If Arlen Specter withdrew from the conference out of fear, he really needs to examine his American conscience. He would have done better to publicize any threats against him, taking the occasion to expose and condemn all those who seek to deprive us of our sacred, secular rights.

Bottom line: If you sleep with OIL, you will wake up filthy. Moreover, you will drown millions of others, in this case Muslims, who are not extremists.

Free Speech rules:

Reality

O Islam, O Islam, violent Islam,
Sunnis of hate, Shiites of late,
Even Pretty Wingie Thingies cannot
Save us from O Islam's hate.

Save us from these Islamic FEMs,
Flaws, Errors, Muck and Stench,
They ooze from the rocks of earth,
Like worms of death and wrench.

Born, Bred, and Brainwashed too,
Whatever, whatever to do?

Truth, Truth, History and Truth,
Let it Ring True, Freedom, Freedom
Freedom at Last and much left to do!!!