Pastor Hagee I Love you my brother.I'm praying with you as well for the presdent. Amen & God speed.

Where is my comment I posted last night?

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iNCAMERA (Secret) On Exposing a Great Conspiracy via both China & Soviet pals & Co.:

One of the best Tools, Besides "Do & Then Deny" (D & D'rs) and to "Situationally Lie" (w/straight Face) is for a Public Official to tell His/Her 'PEOPLE' a great "BiG-LIE"! AND

when China & Russia [Freudiantly slipp] by saying they Have No Choice but to Prop-up the U.S. Trasury-Notes, Bills etc, that they are conspiring to "PUMP & DUMP" unjustly like they did Us on Wall Street!

It was & Is The Chinese & Russians whom secretly & joint Efferts [reverse CONTAiNMENT so to spaketh] "Pumped & Dumped" the Global 'Paper-Investment' System.

Note: And it was also a combination of The THeocratic-Banks [VATiCAN & RiYADH; 2 Richest Monarch/Theocrats in the World, especially in Gold] whom also & most stealthly condoned to the [this] Global shake-out (short of Melt-down).!!!

--- another Trend: N. Korea made a 180 Degree Turn Today. From BBC see excerpt; "Communist North Korea has said it is scrapping all military and political agreements signed with the South, accusing Seoul of hostile intent.

South Korea's government had pushed relations "to the brink of a war".....

Bottom Line: America Needs to Concentrate at Home. And that Means We need a United States of America, from Canada all the way to Panamma; No more 50 States! aka the "100 States of America" [Similar endeavour] or Future-Bound purposed!!

Note: This means Liberating Cuba & again Kicking-Out the Russki's & their Bruski's Aye!???????? Ya Ya!

SEE, See What i [WE] see? How American can one Brother & Sister Be?

Note: This is recycled Material From ALOYSIOUS MOWE today 11:a.
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att 'Blogger Freund' CNN-liberated et al; Jealousy between Nations is Real cause & effect:

Interesting; Beware the sneaky & Soviets & ex Islamic Soviet Nations... THAT

The COMMUNIST THREAT (Take Over by Stealth & Pre anticipated Chess moves; so to spaketh , via 'the hand writings on the wall's' not only via greased-palms or via 2-face actors) THAT

Once Upon a recent History (OUR Jury), and During the Mass Protest of the Dali Lamma (Tibet Budhha movement) THAT, [This] ' Sister Blogg "on

'postglobal' [ironically it is a Sister-Blogg run by Mr. iGnasius whom yesterday teed-off Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan at Devos meeting, acting Moderator et al]

There was Lots & Lots of Protests [on that Blogg from China & Chinese Americans et al] against that 'Lame duck Lama or Buddha.. And some was in Chinese of which had to be 'Babeld' a Translation Free Service) in order to understand the arguments.

Another interesting point is; THAT

Them Commi's, turned Capitalist? China, will celebrate their subconscious' 'iSM' On FEB.1st, called "NATiONAl DAY" at Beijing's "Avenue of Heavenly Peace" and will involve soldiers, tanks and missiles. Imagine: Singing 'HEAVENLY' Peace" But not 'EARTHLY' Peace???

Note: China is also NOT Sharing their Space-Program with America, nor Europes, nor India's not the International Space Station etc..

iMPORTANT: They 1.2 Billion Chinksees, Do not want to trade in iur Un-Mighty U.S. Dollar. AND

Soviet Russky, without da Brewski's, also are GANGing-Up against the Dollar. AND

The Ex Soviet Islamic-GANG Nations Also do not Want to trade in the Un-mighty Dollar. Because

around 2011 Saudi Arabia, under the OIC (Org of Islam Countrys) & Brothers/Sisters will & have Their Own Petro Dollar! Imagine a Picture of Muhammad instead of George Washington.

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Importsnt TRENDs: Today Fidel Castro said, "America, Give us [Cuba/Russia] Back Guantanimo Bay which Ye Stole. Any way, the 'Lease Agreement of 1901 is illegal Internationaly... La L a La. (remember; Russia Made a Visit 1st time since being booted-out of this MONROE Territory [via Doctrine; Which needs a Correction Today] by Mr. J.F. KENNEDY [pbuh et al]. And one needs to Think about big-mouth Anti-American Venezualia & neighbors.

Excerpt: From http://en.rian.ru/

" CUBA signed a memorandum on "strategic" cooperation in the Kremlin. The two countries also signed agreements to grant the Caribbean state a $20 million loan and provide food aid.

Speaking to reporters after the Kremlin talks, Russia's deputy prime minister said Cuba would use the loan to buy Russian-made construction, electricity-generating and agricultural equipment"

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For Mr. Hagee's eyes only:

Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

Current crises:

Adulterous preachers, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals (e.g. John Hagee) and atonement theology.

i [WE] are Borneth in Miracle & Zero via any Sin nor curseth Biblio manmade story's) and WE [i] are not HERE (coming from Other Planets via the Histogramic Holyi Cosmic DUE-TO-BE Utero moment & Holyi MAGMAPERCOLATiON Effects at the OCEANiC MEGAPLUME WOMB, to worship any RAM's or BULL's , or worship Humans, Dinasaurs, Plants, Trees, Bugs nor Micobes , Ghosts, Goddes's & gods , mountains etc.. But

Only To Worship "IT" (G-D by 1,000 names & no more by 99 names) , Not a "HE" & Not a "SHE" (Genderless) thus Naturally BEiNG what "IT" or "iTSELF" is Decaying inside & outside US via "IT's Holy cosmic annimate & Innanimate Stuffs & things; Soo,

i [WE] are between the Annimate & Innanimates Frontal Lobely where YE iMMORTAL Soul is Parked, Justly for a time via TIME (Temperature, not clock & space time thinking)! WE are in ETERNiTY AVOiDiNG LONLiNESS via US & US "IT"; Hence PHotons = LiFE! Hence Miracle in Motion NEBULA, thence Miracle in motion MAGAMAPERCOLATiON.

ALL, each & Every Human 'Being', aka AUTOMATIC CITIZEN/Denizens On Space-Ship Earth is already a PRE-Baptized, Circumcised & Blesseth & Evolved PHOTON ESSENCE with Sences!!

And herein lies the reason the anti-faith community thinks the religious are complete idiots.... Here is drumsalot lambasting Hagee for his interpretation of a passage. Then he adds a passage which supports his view, stating men should follow god, not men. Aren't you a "man" drumsalot? Do you not realize that you are not only a hypocrit, but completely ignorant to that fact? Religion is entirely subjective, and there are only men. There is no evil by god, there is only subjective evil by men... most of it created by men like yourself who simply too stupid to realize it. Get over your self righteousness and take a look in the mirror.

Posted on January 27, 2009 16:02

drumsalot :
Pastor Hagee is a pastor? wow..

"The Bible commands that "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established," (Romans 13:1). So while I endorsed his opponent in the recent presidential election, I fully support Barack Obama as my new President."

That quote is very misleading.

Romans 13:1
"Let every soul be subject unto the jigher powers. For there is no power but of God:the powers that be are ordained of God"

Acts 5:29
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."

This is what the Conservative Christian Evangelicals think of Barak Obama, Presidient o the United States:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.conservapedia.com/Barack_Obama&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNF4gJs1893qvIcSj8EjJkjqZ-RkLA

[Continued]

Soo, Ye See PO L i T I C A L L Y2;

One can Taketh a person out of the Desert, Jungle, Island, Forest etc.., but one (in some cases, not All) cannot take the Desert etc.. out of that undeveloped cavemons? Hence the Prophetic word 'WiLD People" [similar].

PREDiCTION: This "Gaza-Bank Over-Pass, like the Ghawanas Expressway in NYC, & with a Parallel Train System will Happen inevitably. Maybe our Life-TIME or not! But ofcourse this 'Bridge of Peace' will only materrialize if & only if the 'Wild' folk come to their sences! ELSE

It's the Same Old Song, going Nowhere Futuristic!

They (HAMiStanians, not Fatah, who imported Evil Empire Iran old songs) are like Baby's Yelling & Screeming etx.. because We took away their Baby Bottles & their Security Blankets, So To Spaketh, for their-Own-Good, as MATURE adults do to their own kids! It's called Love, not theft!

Reality: The Solution To Such Pollution is EVOLUTION (becoming what one is becoming, aka FUTURE-BOUND)! Never Pre-Apocalyptic Thinking (Backwards, aka Stone-Ages)!

Peace, Paz, Shalom, Slaam, Mir, Ahimsa, Zingyu, Freiden...

att P O L i T I T I C A L L Y .....2, et al @ Jan.27.09; 5:26A,

Ye sayth: "All persons of good will must support peace and security for Jews and Palestinians. A real homeland for Palestinians must be on everyone's wish list too."

Psssst, Hark: "A real Homeland"????

iMPORTANT: The "STATE of PALISTINE" like the "STATE Of ISRAEL" is a Reality who's time is now evolved! Soo, that "Wish" is been granted already.

What WE (each Citizen/Denizen on Holy Cosmic Nebula-Built Space Ship-Earth) needs is More "HOPE" & less wishing. And a hoped-for Wish, not the other way around, can only cometh via HOPE. And Hope is begot via PRAYERs (to Speak, ask) note: To Meditate is to Listen (contemplate!

Fact: There is Zero Hope if No Prayer! And if No Prayer THEN there is zero HOPE!

Comment: Even i (WE) APOCALYPTARiAN(s), ATHEiSTS, AGNOSTICS, SECULARiSTS believe in HOPE. Because the 'root' of HOPE cometh from "OUR" (One Universal Religion) Past. a.k.a HiSTORY! Now:

Located in the LEVANT area, In Palestine, there are two (2) types of CANAANiTES (lower folks from Low Lands).

1)
One type (kind) is the APOCALYPTiC thinking Palistinian Citizenz (not iSraeli Palestine) who's alligence (not to Rome) is to FAT-AH via Prez Abbas living a comfortable Secular Life. AND

2)
second Type (Un-kinds) Cannaanite Palistinian is PRE-APOCALYPTIC thinkers & are Squaters who's allegence is to IRAN & their god (not our G-D) known as HA-MESS via Dictators aka Terrorist. Soo

Here is one, of several, Futuristic Solution to the Canaanite Polution or 'Palistianian-Question' (not israel Question) therein & therefrom:

Once upon a time, not long ago, i (WE) hath Pledged $1,000,000 U.S. to Stimulate the World, in order to help Finance the Building of the so-called "Palistinian Authority; Peace Bridge, Rail and or Tunnel" expanding (annexing) The GAZA (50% under 18) and WESTBANK (25% under 18) Palestinian State!

iMPORTANT Point:

Instead of Gaza Palistinian kids & young adults throwing Rocks at Israli Sabras et al, then under the "International Peace Bridge initiative" [For linking The State of Palistine] will Give these Young Adult something to Build; Hence Jobs, planting trees... then & onlt then Prosperity for their posterity will be realized & PEACE .... etc.

But, According to their (HAMiTES as Canaanites) Grand Dadda "ABRAHAM", He said that iSHMAEL (the 1st born Son via HAGAR, a Palistinian Woman) That he is hairy, uggly & will be a WiLD People! [similar described in their own Tenach, Bible, Koran etc..]

A Must Read:

Selected Death Tolls for Wars, Massacres and Atrocities Before and During WWII (It appears that most if not all of our past relatives and religions have committed horrific atrocities)

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm

Outline:

Worst Twenty

World Historical Population

Primitive War

Ancient World

Biblical Atrocities

Ancient Greece

The Roman and Byzantine Empires

European Wars and Massacres to 1700

Colonial Activities
Slavery
Christendom
Islam
Annihilation of the Native Americans

Outside Europe

Miscellaneous Oriental Atrocities
Slavery in the Mideast
Thuggee and Suttee
Eighteenth Century
Nineteenth Century

Miscellaneous Religious Activities
Biblical Atrocities
Religious Martyrs
Thuggee and Suttee

Total War Dead Throughout History

Aszik advises;
“US Foreign Policy should be made on the basis of US national interests and not on the basis of religious and biblical myths which are against the Constitution.”

Look who is talking about myths. Jerusalem which is considered by Aszik and other Muslims as their third holiest city was never mentioned in their sacred texts. Yet they lay a claim to it based on a one time night dream their prophet claimed to have of visiting the cite of the Jewish temple riding on a winged horse.

Any conciliatory notions coming from a preacher is a ruse. NEVER trust a man that talks for a living especially if he only works on Sunday!

John Hagee has written quite a nice tribute to Obama, especially with regards to the campaign that he ran. He is correct about the biblical statements which are found in the New Testament.

However, I still find that political polarization/partisanship of Christian ministers is not helpful to the cause of Christ. Too bad that the religious right must demonize those who do not believe as they do before they "see the light" and offer the type of column that Hagee has written here. The McCain-Palin campaign was terrible by any Christian standard. When Hagee talks about Obama supporters in a bad light, I wonder if was reading the garbage on the internet.

Not once did I hear many in the Christian right chastise McCain for his poor behavior in his campaign. Even Obama admitted that when he moved to challenge Hillary in a negative way that it did not sit well with him and he stopped it. The difference between Obama and Hagee is large - Obama made a self-correction based on his own set of standards that were internalized into the fabric of his life while Hagee's correction has resulted in an election of the opposition and his final realization that the Bible does say some things about government.

In response to John Hagee's commentary regarding President Obama, I wish to submit the following prayer for our nation. A President who has blessings, but does not follow God's Will cannot be successful, no matter how many blessings and goodwill wishes are said for him. I hope President Obama sees this. Al

Billy Graham's Prayer For Our Nation

'Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!'

Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, 'The Rest of the Story,' and received a larger response to this program than any other he has ever aired. With the Lord's help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called 'One nation under God.'

FraudObama said

Obama is an Idiot.

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My god!!!
The scales fall from my eyes.
Your convincing discourse has turned me away from the path of rationalism and logic and I see the light!
It's so obvious I can't believe that I didn't see it earlier.
Oh thank you so much for your considered and meaningful contribution - we are all indebted to you.

Respect for the President is different from disagreeing with the President.

When he is wrong, it's fine to disagree. If very wrong, it's fine to impeach him.

So far he's doing well. Im hoping he doesn't listen to much to the left coz that's where trouble begins.

In response to all comments questioning Pastor Hagee's stand, the Bible commands us to submit to our rulers Because they only come to power through the will of the God of Abraham, Isac, and Jacob, Jehovah. Obama is president because our God wants him in power to fullfill his prophecy. Obama will take America into the European Union. That is the only way this country will survive economically. The bailouts and this stimulus package and the fact the nearly 10 million jobs will be lost this year in America means this country is going to collapse. People, wake up and read your Bible. It is all there if you are not so blind. If you cannot see the signs that Jesus laid out for us to watch for, then you do not have the Holy Spirit and you are lost to Satan whether you consciously choose him or not. I did not vote or Obama either. But as my President, I respect him and I pray for him because that is what God commands. If you do not understand this, read the Bible. If you do not believe in God, then you are simply stupid. John Ankerburg recently had one the America's top astronomers onhis program who explained that the Astronomers as a whole in this country have come the realize that there is a God behind the "big bang", that it could not have happened with God because it is by perfect mathematical design. And only an intelligent life form of supernatural origin could have created the big bang in the first place. So for all you atheists out there, the scientific best of America have proven astronomically that God is real. If you believe that Jesus was the Son of God, get ready for the call and the trumpet, Jesus is coming to claim us, the Bride of Christ and all hell is going to break loose here on earth. The judgement of God is coming on this earth and it is begining with the fall of America and the war coming against Israel from Russia thrugh Iran, Lebanon, Syria and other arab nations.

Hagee is repulsive.

I am troubled by any religion being injected into government. Israel is a terrorist nation backed by US dollars. I would like to vote on that as well as I am sure many americans would. Hagee and those of his ilk, are hatemongers. He is a walking sin gluttony. Obama though I voted for him will be no diffent for the poor downtrodden palestinians. give them back their land and stop jewish settlements on the west bank.

I agree with Pastor Hagee. I too voted for his opponent, but because of God's commandment I will pray for him. My prayer is that he will stand with Israel because of God's warning that He will bless those who bless Israel and those who don't will be under a curse. I too disagree with his abortion policy. It is legalized murder of unborn children. Our Nation is divided, but with prayer we can overcome and move forward.

According to the Bible when the “voice of the people” elected Saul and established a government under his authority, God called it a “rejection” of Him.

“And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.” 1 Samuel 8:7
When the Israelites were freed from the bondage of Egypt by Moses the people were told in Deuteronomy 17:16 to never go back to that type of government again. Even Jesus said we were not to be like the governments of other nations, where their benefactors exercise authority one over the other.

“And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so...” Luke 22:25, Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42

"Why not just take the man at his word and get on with it, and stop the name-calling, in Jesus' name. And I'm Jewish."

Look for his views on the holocaust and get back to us.

A drowning man will grab a life raft (coattails) wherever he can for survival. As soon as he tempers his arrogance, Jeremiah Wright will be back too.

Pastor Hagee is a pastor? wow..

"The Bible commands that "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established," (Romans 13:1). So while I endorsed his opponent in the recent presidential election, I fully support Barack Obama as my new President."

That quote is very misleading.

Romans 13:1
"Let every soul be subject unto the jigher powers. For there is no power but of God:the powers that be are ordained of God"

Acts 5:29
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."

http://www.newswithviews.com/Gregory/williams100.htm

Why not just take the man at his word and get on with it, and stop the name-calling, in Jesus' name. And I'm Jewish.

Obama is an Idiot.

Experts in the theological field have pointed out that Judaism much more closely resembles Islam than it does Christianity. I wonder if Pastor Hagee realizes that the Jews practice Judaism. You'd think so; he speaks like an educated man, but Evangelical Christianity and Judaism are far apart on several issues - especially the separation of Church and State.

If this lunatic doesn't convince Americans to reconsider our pro-Israel agenda, nothing will. By the way John, Bill Donohue doesn't speak for all Catholics you bigot.

Although I did not vote for Obama, Jesus tells us to pray for our leaders.

We should pray for him hard and fervently...like you would pray for your own flesh and blood son...when you wake up at 3AM....when you get up...while you are driving to work. I pray that President Obama has a revelation from Jesus about the sacredness of life in the womb. I pray that God touches his heart. God bless you and your family President Obama and may he keep you all safe.

every one must submit himself to the governing authorities ,for there is no authority except that with god . roman (13:1 )

the grand ^rapture^ is ,

people in juchristianity are schismed and raptured between the authority or the image of god that they worship sat and sun

and the authority of man that they practice mon to friday ???

is it the total authority of god that govern all authorities ?or the total authority of man(secularism)???

the above illustrate and demonstrate the native delusion of juchristianity and the tyranny of secularism over the authority of god.

juchristianity is being pulled by two contradicted bi-bull ,the juchristian bible and the man made constitution bible ,one leg in the juchristian church(part time,sat and sun) and the other leg (mon to friday)in the man image constitution authority bible???

this is exactly what happened to g bush when invaded iraq ,he carried the juchristian bible in one hand and the secular bible in the other hand ,

the grand bore and the grand rapture is,
he came back carrying none but a couple of shoes in the face.

In reading some of the responses here, it's ironic that some of the people are screaming at Pastor Hagee for being intolerant. And yet he is offering an olive branch to the new President and praying for his success and well-being despite their differences.

Intolerance runs on both liberal and conservative sides. Stop yelling from the extreme fringe and join the rest of humanity.

I thank you for your prayers John. As an atheist, I may not believe your prayers are heard by a divine entity, but I most certainly know they will be heard by thousands of people who are desperate for reconciliation with their fellow citizens of this nation. So I share your prayer.

I commend Paster Hagee for his objective, sincere opinions as to the hoped for success of Barack Obama as our President. I wish that right wing radio talk political commentators would show the same objectiveity and fairness as Pator Hagee, in place of the poison they spew each day into the verbal atmosphere of our society.

I could not understand how a supposed follower of Jesus would be on the side of injustice. Who is the aggrieved party in this conflict? Did the Palestinians evict the Israelis of their homes and lands or is it the other way around? Many honest and decent Israelis do disagree with their country’s policies, and yet this preacher who has no dog in this fight put his full weight behind the aggressor. I could never understand it.

Pastor Hagee,

I was so touched by your article on "My hopes and concerns for Obama." Thank you and may God continue to bless you, your family and the whole world.

joe_allen_doty wrote: "John Hagee is an adulterer who had an affair with a woman in his previous church that he pastored while he was married to his first wife. He divorced his wife so that he could marry his lover and he's still married to the 2nd wife."

But he didn't have an abortion, isn't gay and didn't marry a man, so where's the sin?

John Hagee is an adulterer who had an affair with a woman in his previous church that he pastored while he was married to his first wife.

He divorced his wife so that he could marry his lover and he's still married to the 2nd wife.

I would dig up some Biblically appropriate quotation about hypocricy and false preachers. But at this point it would be kind of superfluous.

I wonder how Rev. Hagee feels about Obama's support for abortion funding?

In any case, I agree with Hagee's sentiment that we non-Obama voters should give Obama the benefit of the doubt until he shows his hand. He won the presidency fair and square, and impressively, and that's all that really matters for the moment.

I consider myself a Christian, but I don't subscribe to Hagee's views of biblically-based government. We need to abide to a separation of church and state. That means we should be able to expect the same fair treatment regardless of whether our president is a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist. We as individuals have no control over our public officials' individual interpretations of religious reality, and thus should not be subject to it. What will Obama subject us to? I don't know, but I can only hope it will be even-handed. In that spirit, I'll join in offering a prayer for his success.

The dirty little secret about why these pulpit-pounders like Hagee love Israel so much is that they all get filthy rich off of the end-times flim-flam fantasies they sell so well. The Israeli PR machine exploits America's unrequited yearning for Armageddon by giving these shameless hucksters free vacations to the "Holy Land" (and who knows what else)...

Pending a final destination in their special places in Hell, here's my recommendation for a vacation resort where these gangsters belong right now:

http://www.missionmeeting.org/spandau/

gadsonn posted:

"President Obama's true succes as the world's most powerful man will be measured by how He Treats Israel. When Israel Is safe, America is safe and the world is safer. Most of the World will support him if he supports Israel."

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I don't believe you are talking about the ME countries since they do NOT feel that if Israel succeeds, then "most of the world will support Obama". In fact, as far as the ME is concerned, the complete opposite is true. As I said previously, Israel should NOT succeed until it recognizes Palestine as a separate country, stops stealing their land and allows their people to be as successful as those in Israel.

Furthermore, I believe that all those who attend and actually BELIEVE the teachings of Hagee are the LUNATIC FRINGE of all religions. For them to awaken each and every day in hopes and prayer that the end of the world will arrive then and there are complete FRUITCAKES of the worst kind as they try like h*ll to convince others to buy into their krap. To think that they had the ear of our government leaders [in particular Bush the born again zealot, DeLay, Frist, and all those who wanted to continue life support for the brain dead woman despite her husband saying no more artificial life] is FRIGHTENING because I certainly do NOT want to die today or any other day in their idea of any rapture for which I do not consider to feel like 'rapture'.

I reviewed the video of Hagee's church members back when McCain welcomed Hagee's endorsement [before he wanted to wipe Hagee off the bottom of his shoes just like the dog stuff one wipes off shoe soles] and freaked out when I saw what NUTJOBS or LUNATICS they were [are]. To think these people roam the aisles of their church in their ridiculous dances [??], or should I say, "look at me time" during Hagee's sermons was absolutely mind blowing and made me realize that never, even in my wildest dreams, could I imagine seeing anything like these demented loons. And they think they are entitled to have the ear of the POTUS? OMG, someone please help me understand that there is no way TOTAL NUTS could ever be allowed input into those who govern our country! It's bad enough that some of our leaders are perhaps nuts in their own right, but to have other DEFINITIVE LUNATIC NUTS seeking input with our POTUS is simply beyond the pale.

It is wrong for Israel to continue building settlements on land that is clearly not theirs, but rather belongs to the Palestinians. Israel has stolen that land and shows no desire to give it back as they continue building their settlements, to say nothing of the walls being built by Israel to keep the Palestinians in their place. Israel has acted out of 'greed' in their theft of land they clearly don't own and that makes it difficult to support them. And I hear no one telling Israel to STOP stealing land and stop building settlements on that land.

So pastor Hagee until that occurs, I will not pray for blanket support of Israel. Until they view the Palestinians as people [members of the human race] and start treating them with the same respect they wish to be shown, I cannot support Israel.

Israel knew that their military was far superior to Palestine, and yet they deliberately bombed them until more than 1,300 people were killed and countless others maimed or wounded while Israel lost less than 20 soldiers. Until they stop trying to not only take land which is not theirs, suppress an entire country of people where they have no freedom, no decent jobs to support families, and no hope for a better future, and then use an opportunity to kill as many of them as possible, I will not support them with prayers or in any other way. Israel is wrong and I refuse to support any country that is wrong. It would be like asking me to support Nazi Germany - and I could NEVER do that.

Besides, pastor Hagee, I don't agree with your views at all. Despite being straight, I support gays and lesbians because they are human beings. I also supported Obama from the git-go and voted for him because I believe his heart is far more open than McCain's could ever be. Furthermore, Obama is not the fraud, opportunist and fake that I have observed in McCain.

I have none of your views and hope that will always be the case because your views of basically all the issues are just plain wrong. So pray for Obama if it makes you feel better and makes you feel more socially acceptable, but it won't change the way I and most of society feel about your beliefs and views.

I disagree with mr. hagee about obama. As a believer in Jesus Christ i cannot support someone as evil as obama. He is against everything we true believer's in Jesus Christ believe in. I will oppose him every step of the way and my only pray is that God will frustrate his efforts so his evil will not take hold in this land and destroy our nation. I am supporter of Isreal and mr. hagee is wrong about obama's comments on isreal. he re-tracted those comments soon after uttering them which of course is par for obama. he says different words to different people all the time.

Ask Hagee why he really wants Israel to be protected. (And it's not because he likes Jews, I promise) Hagee and the Evangelicals need Israel to be for the Jews because of the Rapture....when all but a relative few Jews will go to hell and roast for all eternity.

I agree fully with Pastor Hagee's comments that we should pray for our new president. That he will lead our country in a Godly and peaceful direction. Also I pray the President will change his mind about abortion and other issues. May God bless him and protect him and his family.

Pastor Hagee,
Your comments are greatly, greatly appreciated.
May G-d's blessings be upon Pres. Obama and you as well...
Sincerely,
a jewish person from Israel

Pastor Hagee, you've tried for so long to talk trash about candidate Obama. Now you admit that Obama is your president too! Bad taste, you have no choice Mr. Hagee.

Bishop Hagee's comment in this write up is a guide to all believers like me what our attitude should be concerning President Obama and any other leader with political and spiritual authority over us.

We are in the same boat in this turbulent sea together.

Rev. Hagee,

Like you, I did not vote or support President Obama but he is now my President too. As such, I support him.

Rev. Hagee, thanks for your strong support of Israel and the pro life movement.

For the pro life community .... please visit:

www.fightfoca.com

and add your signature. A signature is added approx. every 12 seconds.

As importantly, please forward this site to pro life friends, family, neighbors and, especially church groups.

coloradodog wrote:

"First the small and shallow John Mark Reynolds spews his evangelical intolerance and now Hagee the *CATHOLIC HATER* (my emphasis). When is WaPo going to feature the black racist Jeremiah Wright or the pompous, fat homophobe Dobson. "On Faith" has turned into a jamboree or religious ignorance for fame, power and greed."

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Obvious case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Coloradodog, I've read MANY of your anti - Catholic posts. You are no big fan of Catholicism.

Coloradodog, you should be the last one throwing stones at Rev. Hagee about anti - Catholicism.

Coloradodog ..... a little introspection is in order.

@HYJANKS: I appreciate your skepticism, but nothing about the existence of other world religions disproves the tenets of the Bible. The fact that other religions and other gods have been "invented" does not mean that the Christian God is false.

Other than the staunch support of Israel, which even as an evangelical Christian I don't really understand, I agree with almost everything Hagee writes. It's nice to see my fellow believers offer some "civility" to the conversation.

For those eyes that have not seen:

Our War on Terror and Aggression:

An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent Body Count

1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops, 3,402 combat and 822 non-combat) and 90,253 – 98,521I raqi civilians killed, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

8) UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

Other elements of our War on Terror:

1. Saddam, his sons and major henchmen have been deleted. Saddam's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes.

2. Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

3. Libya has become almost civil. Recently Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the victims of their terrorist activities Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “crazies” as they have threatened Libya. OBL sure is a disgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!! Or is he???

4. North Korea is still uncivil but is contained. With the opening up of rail traffic between North and South Korea after 50 years and with the assistance of the US Navy in retrieving NK ships and personnel hopefully a fresh sense of civility is afoot.

5. North Korea was taken off the terrorist country list recently.

6. Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

7. The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords and the Annapolis Peace Conference is at least somewhat successful. Unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “square one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

8. Bin Laden has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.

9. Fanatical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanhistan and Pakistan.

10. Timothy McVeigh was executed. Terry Nichols will follow soon.

11. Eric Rudolph is spending three life terms in prison with no parole.

12. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

13. Islamic Sudan, Darfur and Somalia are still terror hot spots.

14. The terror and torture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Radovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war -- charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

15. And of course the bloody terror brought about the Japanese, Nazis and Communists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

This is a wonderful article. I agree with Pastor Hagee. I pray for my new leader of this United States, and his family, along with the other members he will work closely with. I pray that President Obama will stand with Israel, and keep his promise regarding Israel's security. Thanks, Deborah Smith

Where have all these Concerned Christians, good Americans been. The silence from this sector the last 8 years is deafining. President Bush has conducted an immoral administration that in no way resembles his supposed Hero "Jesus Christ"
There's just no way anyone with Jesus as their Hero could have been so arrogant and wanting. Did Brownie really do a good job during Katrina? Did he really see a kindred soul in Putins eyes? Did we really parade the images of Sadams dead sons on Television? After the Crucifixion process of Jesus do we really have a Guantanamo? Just who was at that meeting of energy execs with Dick Cheney and immediately afterwards California was the first to feel the sting of grid manipulation. How are the Neo-cons any different from Pilus? The Bush administration conducted a terrrible campaign of intimidation in the good name of America. The world has grown weary and embraces the fairness, Democratic, Decent approach by President Obama. Something I think Jesus would appreciate. Conservative Christians need to reconcile what is really ailing them! A history of exclusion motivated by something that binds them to a dark history in this country. I pray for that day but I remain skeptical.

I fully endorse this, paster Hagee's, article and would like to add the following;

President Oboma wants to be all inclusive regarding our USA people and associated Citizenships. I applaud this, and include, as a Christian we are to love everyone individually, but not each individual's beliefs or specific activities, activities that could be construed as sinful or against God's teachings

As a Christian who thinks that the only way God can be glorified in us is if we truly act on his principles which are clearly defined in His Holy Word, I am extremely pleased with Pastor Hagee's article. We are to pray for those in authority and that is the bottom line. It sickens me that people would want the president to fail so they can point the finger and say "I told you so." Well, while you are pointing your finger our country and citizens will be suffering, so wouldn't it be better to pray that he looks to God for wisdom to make the right choices for our country?

Sorry, Hagee. You're god is a figment of your imagination and your bible a hoax, so pardon me if I don't go along with your blathering and your book's "commands".
As for the rest of the commenters on this sight that seem to agree with this Bronze Age throwback, pick up a book on comparative religion, read with your own eyes that there have been ten thousand gods and nearly as many religions since written history.
YOUR GOD IS NOT SPECIAL! He is one of many gods invented in the mind of men.
Stop threatening us non-believers with eternal damnation when we've already been through hell as a result of the agenda and policies of one of your born-again members-in-good-standing.

forgetthis : "Hagee is the last person I expected to see writing for the Post. He did very well. I hope he knows he just jumped into a shark pool. These Post readers take no prisoners--no Christian prisoners that is."

Well, lets not forget who started this religious war and made statements like Katrina being an act of God in retribution for homosexuality. Hagee also favors supporting Israel and launching a war with Iran not for any political or retaliatory reasons but because Hagee believes it will lead to biblical Armageddon, which he yearns for. Now, not only does he preach this, he lobbies Congress about this, making reasons for war based on the bible.

Now, you can call Post readers sharks but we're not the one's putting the bait in the water nor arguing decisions as serious as war on biblical interpretations. The only reason Hagee is in the Post is that he has lost all his power that he once had through republicans in Congress and the White House. And like any synchophant who loses power he will look for it elsewhere, thus the sucking up this article does to the new power in Washington. But though people in general have short memories, memories of Hagee's words will live long and not be forgotten. The man is IMHO insane and should be kept away from political power, sharp objects and matches.

I am a Christian and I keep reading responses from other Christians about their concerns regarding homosexuality being a sin and that we should fight against legislating a civil union. I wonder where these Christians stand on common law marriage. It is a law that is recognized by both states that if a heterosexual couple lives together in sin that their union is considered marriage. This is a blatant sin, why aren't these Christians so outraged by this sin.

Or is it that some Republican Christians have there two "pet sins". Homosexuality and abortion are the only things that are important when it is time to pick a leader. God tells us in Deuteronomy 30:19:

I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live

God gives us the power to make a choice, shouldn't we give others that power to make their own choice, as long as they are not harming others?

Hagee is the last person I expected to see writing for the Post. He did very well. I hope he knows he just jumped into a shark pool. These Post readers take no prisoners--no Christian prisoners that is.

Lonestargreg, So you prefer the conservative, fascist world view to the "liberal, socialist" one? OK, your choice. But keep in mind that while you are hoping for the liberal agenda to fail, we liberals (and anyone else with a brain) will remember that the conservative agenda DID fail under the leadership of Dubya.

While I shall pray for Godly wisdom for our president, I cannot hope for his success when he makes decisions based on his liberal, socialist worldview. I hope for the worst of outcomes in these decisions so that the folly of these schemes will bear themselves out. Never has there been such a great audience to view the disaster that will surely follow these socialist dreams, (er, nightmares), should these plans be fully implemented. Socialism has always failed and will do so again. God is not mocked by the high intentions of man.

John Hagee has drank the Obama Kool-Aid folks!!!

All persons of goodwill must support peace and security for Jews and Palestinians. A real homeland for Palestinians must be on everyone's wish list too.

It is a good thing, a very good thing indeed, to want Jews to live in safety whether in Israel or anywhere else in the world. It is equally important for Palestinians to have a chance to rebuild their lives and live in a country of their own. All Christians must support both. Violence should never be resorted to as the solution to any problem, by anyone.

For a Christian to want peace for Israel only because of some interpretation of the Book of Revelation - that Jesus is going to appear in the physical Jerusalem - that is outright silly and selfish. Jews must be safe in Israel whether Jesus appears in Israel or not. Palestinians must have a homeland wherever Mohammad did or didn't go in his lifetime. Hamas needs to understand violence is counterproductive. Israel needs to understand the longing of a homeland by the people of Palestine.

When Jesus returns, He will find a way to return. There is no need to keep Jerusalem ready for that. The New Jerusalem is not a physical place. Who knows the New Jerusalem may be next to New York or New Jersey or somewhere completely unexpected, in the middle of Africa or on the North Pole or a completely new planet.

Pastor Hagee, pursue peace for Jesus said, Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be known as the children of God.

Barack is not my POTUS until he proves he's an American citizen.

pastor hagee says the bible says that we must submit ourselves to the governing authority. he claims the bible instructs christians to obey the government. i disagree with his interpretation of the bible. if i were living in gaza, would he expect me to submit to hamas, the democratically elected government? i know for a fact that the united states government is guilty of torture. he asks his followers to submit to this government? i disagree with pastor hagee and will never submit to a government of liars, which most of them are.

I agree fully with Pastor Hagee's comments that we should pray for our new president.That he will lead our country in a Godly and peaceful direction.But I also strongly beleive that we should pray that almighty God will change President Obamas heart and show him that abortion, and homosexuality are sin and an abomination in the eyes of God,and that God can not bless a nation that indulges in such unholy practises.Please pray that our president and all of the leaders of the U.S. will repent and help lead our country back to the Biblical standards we were founded on before it is too late. God bless America.

I wonder what tune Hagee will be singing when and if we manage to get back to some semblance of prosperity so that rich people can be forced, again, to pay something like their fair share of taxes for this government he supposedly loves so much. And will he sing the same tune if Obama does like the first George Bush and puts the screws to Israel to withdraw from West Bank settlements? Those settlements have nothing to do with Israel's security, and in fact, by enraging the Muslim world they endanger not only their own security but ours as well. When I think of someone like Hagee, I think of that old poster from showing Ernest and Julio Gallo with their backs turned saying, "If you're underage, we don't want your support." We don't need the support of people like Hagee, just their silence will do nicely, so that the government he professes to love so much can operate without being hamstrung.

President Obama's true succes as the world's most powerful man will be measured by how He Treats Israel. When Israel Is safe, America is safe and the world is safer. Most of the World will support him if he supports Israel.

Pastor Hagee, you should also pray over the letter of James and John and compare your sermons to what Apostle James, John and Peter wrote to the early Christians.

Pastor Hagee, you should reflect on the words of Jesus to the Samaritan woman at the well. He said, in effect that the day was coming when people would not worship God on this mountain or that mountain, but IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. Yes, Pastor Hagee, God is spirit, the Holy Spirit He sends is spirit, and therefore God and the Holy Spirit is present everywhere. God can be worshiped in spirit and in truth EVERYWHERE.

Pastor Hagee, one thing that hatred spewing Christian churches seem to have in common is a unique take on the Old Testament and preaching from Revelation. Revelation is such a symbolic book, that it should not be read to the common man at all and should remain the material for study by serious theologians. Strikingly enough, what Jesus Christ taught about the Judgment Day, the Good Samaritan and the Sermon on the Mount is missing. It is all hellfire, brimstone, threats and cursing, and hatred of those who interpret the Bible different from hatred spewing pastors. Why Pastor Hagee? Why?

Dear Pastor Hagee:
My whole family and I stand along side Israel join hand in hand with you. Israel has a right to defend herself. It is our right as christians to pray and stand for what is right for God's people all over the world. God have mercy on the one's that do not believe. There is a great day coming.God bless you and Israel, United States, and this whole cruel, cold world.In the name of Jesus Christ I pray.

Pastor Hagee, do you mind explaining to people of all faiths, beginning with Christians of churches other than yours, why hatred for those who believe otherwise is preached from the pulpits of pastors like you? Why hatred for the Catholic Church is so sacrosanct? In what way does such a teaching have to do with Christianity and the life of Christ? One blogger on this forum who blogged under different names, most recently as Spiderman1 or 2, attacks others viciously all the time. Maybe you could look into the matter and do the needful? If Christian pastors teach hatred for others in the name of teaching the right interpretation of the Bible, Jesus Christ is put to shame.

Pastor Hagee

I am praying along side with you. God bless you and your family. May Jesus be with you always. Thanks for speaking out and giving us the truth. And God bless Christians United for Israel.

Sorry for the misspelling of "Israel"...PTL Pastor and "keep on keeping on"

Iam a friend of Israel but I don't like the news that Netanyahu plans to allow new settlements in the West Bank.

The Fatah in the West Bank have performed well and did not join in the fray when Israel had a fight with Hamas in Gaza.

I hope Israel would reciprocate the kind gesture.

The Reality of Israel's Religion-

Abraham founder/father of three major religions was either the embellishment of the lives of three different men or a mythical character as was mythical Moses, the "Tablet-Man" who talked to burning bushes and made much magic in Egypt.

Many of the 1.5 million Conservative Jews and many of their rabbis have relegated Abraham to the myth pile along with most if not all the OT.

Current crisis:

Realization that the Jews are not god's chosen people.

www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ConservativeTorah.htm

The Reality of Israel the Country-

Israel was established in 1948 by a mandate of the UN. The Arabs did not agree with the mandate and tried twice to crush Israel. Israel won both wars. Funding by Iran and Saudi Arabia of Palestinian terrorist groups has kept the region a hot bed of atrocities on both sides i.e. "an eye for an eye".

Large scale aggression by the Arabs ceased when Israel got nuclear weapons.

Iran's terror campaign extends way beyond the Israeli issue as it wishes to make Islam the world's religion and its suicide mentality makes this Axis of Evil a significant danger to global peace and even more so if they are allowed to have nuclear weapons.

Unfortunately, nukes play the role of "peace" keepers replacing religions/social systems which should play the "pax" role but do not because of the "my god/prophet/social system is better than your god/prophet/social system" syndrome.

Iran's commitment to Islamic domination of the globe to include suicide bombing and support of terror as weapons to that end is something to be very concerned about and is one of the major reasons the USA is still in Iraq.

The irony is that Islam's commitment to world domination is founded on mythical communications from a mythical "pretty, wingie, talking thingie".
And one billion global citizens continue to be brainwashed in this significant stupidity.

Paganplace, Paganplace, Paganplace,

We await your latest spell of whatever!!!

Pastor Hagee: i thank God for him bringing you to the aid of Israel for such a time as this.i really enjoy your messages and listen to them whenever i get a chance.May the Lord we serve bless you in all you do.

Thank you Pastor Hagee for always speaking up and tackling important issues. As a result of speaking the truth, you often become a target of attack by those who simply do not understand. I followed the American Presidential race closely and did not believe that Mr. Obama was the right man for the job either, however, I hope that I was wrong.

God bless you Pastor Hagee as you continue to do God's work.

Dan Pedersen
Barrie, Ontario, Canada

Is "Interfaithnation" actually JJ? Because his/her ramblings sound suspiciously like JJ.

I am thankful for the existence of John Hagee. He is a blatant example of the hypocrisy of organized religion. Huge, well fed, dressed in expensive suits and domiciled in luxury, he rails for war against the islamic faith and promotes big bucks for zionists who will yet bring humankind its end. He isn't even astute enough to realize he is being used by people who laugh, not only at him, but who call his followers xtians and the mother of his son of god a ho.
I wish I could attribute his status as being in Texas but fear this disease is widespread (no pun intended).

Here's a quick summary of Pastor Hagee's position: Barack Obama has my full support as long as he ignores Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.

I am writing to express my appreciation for Pastor Hagee's remarks, and to especially thank and appreciate him for his work for Israel. As a retired minister myself, and a member of CUFI, I can no longer travel, but I can write and comment, and do it a lot. I have been to Israel twice, and was a signer of the same full-page New York Times ad by the American Jewish Committee of Christian ministers that Pastor himself signed, in 1992. I don't quite understand why Pastor supported McCain to the end; McCain had no more understanding of Pastor Hagee's extent work in Christian-Jewish relations than he did of the economy, which is one of the reasons he lost. Mr. Obama, on the other hand, is smart, strong, personable and knowledgeable, will try to do the right thing (some may disagree; that is their right: I don't) and he acted more "Christian" than any of his opponents, including McCain, who at least conceded graciously.) Mr. Obama proved to the world that America can and will keep its great promise. If we were TRULY to act as a Christian nation, putting love of God and fellow man (and woman) in front of selfish and mean-spirited political gains that diminish others, what a world we could help create! Rev. P.K. Dennis, Mississippi

As an ordained minister (semi-retired now) and lover of Israel, I have always appreciated Pastor Hagee's position, and especially his warm support of our new president, a man of great promise. Why he continued to support McCain, who didn't even bother to find out Pastor's deep love and study of Israel, and who proved to be boorish and unknowledgeable about the economy as well. Mr Obama acted more "Christian" than anyone else in the campaign. Everybody will not agree with him on everything (I do, but...) but he stands for something, and his election proved to the world that America can and will keep its promise. I have been part of CUFI for a while, and visited Israel twice. I can no longer travel as I did once, but I can write, and I can let people know when they are appreciated and understood, and I extend that appreciation and understanding to Pastor's good work for Christian-Jewish understanding. We both signed the same NY Times ad back in 1992 on this subject. Let us all keep the faith. (Rev.) Paulina Kent Dennis, Mississippi

Mr. Hagee,

Your a phony and a charlatan.

I don't belong to any organized religion...it's not for me; but like many I still try and serve a higher authority in my own way. And much of the time that authority is just my own conscience.

I don't know Hagee at all, but as long as he tries to be reasonably cordial (as I think he is here at least) and find at least a few common values to agree on...no reason to be anything but similar in response. It seems we all have to learn to sit with paradox and divergent opinions, or be driven insane from the excitation of our own demons.

Thank you Pastor Hagee for your words of wisdom, encouragement, and hope for the future as we continue to pray for you and your family, our military men and women, our country, and for the peace of Isreal.

"Christian" Hagee's prayer:

Dear God:

Please make Barrack Obama nuke Iran and exterminate Hamas and all Palestinians.

In your loving and peaceful name I pray.

Amen

I want to take a moment to let you know Mr. Hagee that 10 years ago I had lost everything I ever loved, my husband, my home, all my positions. I was hurt angry and in a very dark place, I tried going to Church and found them cold, clicks. I would listen and leave just as empty as I was here I walked in.

God helped me find you on the radio one day. You are strong. You tell the truth, you put God first and do not sugarcoat anything. I learned so much from you. I have been to your convention in Washington DC and intend to go this year. You are my favorite Pastor, I place you at number one and Joyce Meyers as 2nd among my favorites, because you helped me find my way back to God. I have purchased all your CD's and shared them to learn as much as I can about Jesus, his desciples, the Jewish culture and I stand up beside you for Israel today.

I have listened to you for the past 10 years and I only hear the truth. I did not vote for Mr. Obama, however, I feel as a member of your church that it is my responsibility to pray and support our New Commander and Chief. I have never heard you say we should not support our Government Leaders, however, we do need to address the serious matters that are very painful to God.

Thank you so much Mr. Hagee, STAND TALL, you will earn so many crowns in heaven. I may not get to shake your hand here, but I hope to look you up when I get there to thank you in person.

You are a loving Paster that tells us what we need to hear and I grow every day from listening to you.

I will keep you in my prayers every day.

God Bless you Mr. Hagee

Your Member and FAN Connie

Civility is a virtue, as is a concern for the community and our leaders. I appreciate the fact that Hagee extends courtesy and good wishes to Obama.

However, most of the issues he comments on, speaking here as a preacher, are civil issues. Why should an ostensible preacher give first priority to weapons and war and the state of Israel (not just the Jewish people but their sectarian state), whether the president should talk with the government of Iran, if our government should adopt the abortion agenda of his church?

Obama seems to clearly understand the differing authorities and responsibilities of government and religion. Let us hope that over the course of this administration, the preachers and priests who want to dictate state policy will gain a similar understanding.

It is sad to see so much hate in all these posts. My -we certainly are a melting pot aren,t we ? I didn,t vote for Mr. Obama but he has my prayers every day. He has a BIG job to do and may I remind you ''He does need all of our prayers.'' I hate Abortion because it takes the lives of the ''innocent ones'' who have no say -so. This is the fastest way for our Nation to fall from within because God will not allow it to continue. I don,t say that--God does.

I know we are to pray for all our leaders, but sir, may I ask you a question, Mr Obama has re-instated funding murdering children again with funding abortion and stem cell research, which has been proven the adult stem cell work better plus cord blood. He also has not been telling the truth about his former pastor as he used one of his pastor's giving the final prayer, and sir, many other lies to numerous to recount. wouldn't it be better to tell the congregations to sincerly pray for the salvation of Barack Husein Muhamad Obama and Michelle Obama that their souls are safe and pray also for Nancy Palosie and Harry Reid also for their stand on liberlism and socialism that will change our country. I know because of tax reasons pastors have their hands tied, mine does, but OUR PRECIOUS COUNTRY MUST HAVE A REVIVAL AND SHE MUST TURN BACK TO GOD BEFORE IT IS TO LATE. YOU SUPPORTE OUR EX-GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE WHO WAS AN UPSTANDING MAN AND TURNED OUR STATE AROUND, BUT THE CHRISTIANS TURNED THEIR BACKS ON HONESTY AND CHOSE TO FORGET THE ROOTS THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON AND THE BLOOD THAT WAS AND IS BEING SHED FOR OUR FREEDOMS, WHICH NOW OUR IN DANGER OF BEING TAKEN AWAY. ISRAEL DOES NOT LIKE NOR TRUST MR. OBAMA, SO PLEAS MR. HAGEE PRAY FOR HIM BUT BE WARY. THANK YOU.

While I agree with your basic message .
I do have some questions ..In this prayer for him to succeed how do we come to grips with his wanting to fund global abortion.. Make Gay marriage a reality in all the states .. and make it hate crime if you preach against it ..........
And how do we wrap our thoughts about wanting to
divide Israel for peace ?? Please explain that
Thanks

Pastor Hagee -- thank you for the eloquent statement about President Obama, It was the response of a good statesman and a dedicated Christian. It is also the state of mind every American should cultivate toward our leaders. It is the ultimate hope that the sincere prayer to God, of a righteous man, will change the hearts and minds of some of the snakes that occupy positions of power in our government. They exist in all political parties and from all sections of our nation, and their corrupted and devious ways bring the wrath of the almighty upon this great nation. But again, it is our duty and privilege to pray for deliverance from evil and the salvation of evil doers, and we really can plainly see, as Yahshuah said, "they know not what they do".
Eliyahu Ben Avraham

Somebody needs to throw a penalty flag on a lot of these comments. This seems like a sincere and eloquently put message of encouragement and a statement of where common ground is. Folks, we need to build on this type of foundation rather than mocking the one who brings it.

If you haven't noticed, the economic news is very bad and 2009 is going to be a very weird year for many people. It really is time to find common ground and build from our strengths.

It is time for us to act like adults reacting to real adult challenges. So, well done Pastor Hagee.

att G L O B A L O N E et al:

interesting. nice nice, vvvvverrry nice. ya Ya.

Pagan,

"Grow up, get off the 'one issue' hysteria"

--- You attempt to discard the "one issue" as if we were discussing tax breaks for llama ranchers in Montana. It's a little more important that that, don't you think?

I would like to know what thoughts you have on "cleaning this mess up". What would you like to see done to achieve that goal?

Thanks.

Hey Hagge,

How did u manage to get a salary of $1.2 million?
If u were a true xtian and follow in the footsteps of the Great Jesus, U would send some of your millions to the starved,maimed and orphened Gaza children who are now sleeping in the cold-thanks to the savagry of your "chosen people."

Where the hell did get the money to build your fantastic Mansion in San Antonio? Did Jesus ever live in a MAnsion like yours? Have you been to the south side of the city of San Antonio?? Did u ever consider giving some the this wealth u plunderd from the simple folk u are lying to -to cahrity??

Did u give any of your wealth to the victims of your next door Katarina victims??

How many orphans have sponsered and how many are housed in your Mansion???

Think about it long and hard.

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Posted on January 26, 2009 12:27
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Nice to see the Christian hating bigots responding as expected...

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We don't hate Christians. What we hate are neochristians like Hagee who cherry-pick scriptures to spew intolerance and exclusion for a buck.

"Apparently some of you do not understand "for those eyes that have not seen". "

Apparently, Concerned Christian, you don't understand your own 'You shall be known by your fruits.'

Trust me. I see plenty. It's just not pretty.

No matter how many times you repeat it.

"The Reality of Contemporary Christianity for Those Eyes That Have Not Seen--"

Apparently some of you do not understand "for those eyes that have not seen".

And once again, reiteration is a major component of a good education as demonstrated by the number of times the OT has been reiterated over the last 3000 years, the NT over the last 2000 years and Shakespeare's plays for the last 400 years.

Religious Reality and Truth are simply catching up. Deal with it and learn!!!!

Anyway, (How did JJ get back in here, anyway?)

If Evangelicals are in fact praying fervently for Obama's success, consider the endeavor.

He has set out to *lead* a free country, (and get us out of the messes your guys have so self-righteously created,) not *rule* in the name of an absent an unaccountable God.

For Obama to succeed as an American President, we must all be *Americans,* not self-appointed champions of various religious authorities.

We've all got to let, and help him do his *job,* not just 'pray he'll obey us even after being elected to *not* be a smug, greedy and self-righteous pawn of the Religious Right and the GOP agenda.'

Grow up, get off the 'one issue' hysteria, and let's clean this mess up, ...let's build a future for *all* our children.

That is if you an remember prayer as anything but trying to compel others and obstruct anything but the GOP.

The LEVANT (NORTHERNERS are different & SOUTHERNER ARABIN folk from HiJAZ & Yemen are different than Gazan (Palistinians, Lebanes, Jordanians.. & Aegypt annexed to Africa.)

Cyprus
Iraq
Israel
Jordan
Lebanon (Hizbullain-Enemy, a Theo State within a State)
Palestine (Gaza-HAMAS-Enemy, WestBank FATAH not Hamas-tanians)
Syria (Hizbullyastanians-Enemy a theo state within a state)

Note: TURKEY should only get 'Membership' into the EURO if & only if the Ottoman Empire Invades SYRIA, maybe LEBANON too, like Israel lately did in Gaza to Rid (Cleanse Syria Monarchy & Theocrats) of the Hizbullya's & Vintriloquists..

please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant

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President Borak Husan OBAMA "..Can Unite & Work with.." The NORTHERNERS of Middle East, aka (LEVANTians). AND

President "BO" can work with the SOUTHERNERS of Middle East, aka ARABIANS (nights & days). Soo,

Maybe "ABRAHAM" Lincoln [pbuh et al] is OBAMA reincarnate?? ha ha Justly kidding! Ha Ha.

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QUETION: What's the difference between a Donkey-Democrat, an Elephant-Rebulican, a Lame-DUCK person; ANSWER: The same shiat, n there's nuttin Sunni about them!

Ha! HA HA! HA HA Ha Ha Ha.....! Eeeee Haaaa Happy Every Day.

HALLALUYA!

Praise The "Holyi-NO/HEorSHE" a.k.a ALMIGHTY (The Rock) and 1,000 names; NO longer by 99!

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PEACE, PAZ, MIR, SHALOM, SLAAM, AHIMSA, ZIGHYU..

fr crewsin:

>...Also, what is the Christian response to rules allowing homosexuals to (among other things) serve openly in the nation's armed forces?...

Um, in case you didn't know, we GLBT's are PEOPLE, human beings worthy of respect. We are not "things".

It's a simple thing, this matter of separating church and state. End tax exemptions for institutionalized religions, which again and again, as in the present case, show that they cannot meet the requirements for nonprofits: staying out of politics.

IN OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC DISTRESS, it is unthinkable that organized religions still have their hands in the barrel.

Crew Sin: I like the way you think! Fundamentalist Reichwingers should MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY ASAP rather than live in a nation that allows women reproductive control and brings an end to discrimination against gays and lesbians.

And Hagee is a lying ho that must be losing his congregation rapidly for him to go from the Reichwing rhetoric I've seen him spew on Youtube to this conscilatory pablum that goes against every sermon he ever preached.

umm... Why, again, does the Post allow this crazy guy anywhere near their paper? Has anyone ever seen his tv show? He is clearly out of his mind and profoundly divorced from reality. Great job lending him credibility by allowing him a forum in your paper.

I know some of the members of Hagee's Cornerstone congregation. I can testify that Hagee and his congregation are cut from the same cloth as David Koresh and the Waco cult. Why does the Washington Post provide space for this nut job's opinion. Hagee, who cares what you think!

Mr. Hagee, I am not a Christian nor one of your biggest fans; but your piece was surprisingly moderate, and something you probably had to struggle with to write; and I, at least, appreciate it.

Dave Huntsman
Cleveland

John Hagee is a discredited Pastor and,to me as a Christian, his words are not worth reading !

You been drinking happy juice Hagee? You are one of the most hatefull SOBs in the evangelical movement. You are guilty of adultery, gluttony and pride that we know of.

The world has suffered enough throughout history from the mixing of politics with religion, and one of the major achievements of humanity was the separation of Church and State in modern times. I therefore find it regrettable to see a return of this disastrous trend , specially in some highly developed countries.
To be more specific , I would like to remind those Americans ( fortunately only a minority ) who call themselves EVANGELICALS that , by that very word , they are supposed to follow the preachings of Jesus as cited in the Gospels. But, the fact is that since the Edict of Milan in 313 which established religious tolerance and , more precisely , eversince the first Council of Nicaea convoked by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in 325 , Christinity has not been put into practice. Bernard Shaw , in " Androcles And The Lion " ( Penguin Plays , 1946 , page 9 ) goes even further when he writes : QUOTE " The moneyed, respectable, capable world has been steadily anti-Christian since the crucifixion ; and the specific doctrine of Jesus has not in all that time been put into political or general social practice." END OF QUOTE
I would also like to make it clear that I nevertheless respect anyone's right to believe in whatever one decides. As for me, I am 76; I was born of an Egyptian Muslim father and an Italian Christian mother, and our neighbours just next door were Jews , but I have become a Pantheist, believing in the identity of God and Nature.

Mr. J.HAGEE , Sisters, Brothers, et al: SHALOM!

Your Photo looks good. But i can't look YE 'straight in doze eyes.' Any way; i’ll try in words.

Before i begin, please knowth that "Dropping a 'ATOM BOMB' on pre-Apoclyptic thinking PERSIAN folk et al (SHIA Muslims), even though tempting? is not the best option [yet?]

Note: PAKISTAN [SUNNi Moslems‘] , a Proxy for Islam Royal Saudia, Arabia Families, already hath an "sunni-iSLAMIC-BOMB". But Soon Iran could & The NATO & UNited Nations & Levant Friends Shall not Ever Allow a "shia-Atomic-Bomb to materialise, which is tantamount to HAZEBELLYz-HAMOSS & Syrioss having one.

Note: Recently i read an article about Iran scouting the Globe (Shoping Stealthly) for "Yellow Cake" , bomb making material. And the Friendlys are not allowing the slae of Such. Hence why Internationalize a Uranium Bank.

Now, HERE are other Options, if Ye not mindeth?;

Because Brother GW BUSH, The NAPOLIAN Of the Middle East, once said, "Ye art either with US [U.S. & Friends] or against U.S." [like a New-Song cometh from Old]. This is how We must remember Him. Soo,

TODAY, what was once a great nation (before Islam-ISM) "Iran", this Space-Ships Biggest "Openly Flouting" THEOCRACY [controlled by jealous sex freeek Ayatollah’s whom marry 9 Year old Girls like Mr. Muhammad did 600's CE & who's followers made themselves at home as far as Cordoba Espanola et al & almost to America off OUR necks (Infidels, Non Believers, Peoples of the books..).!] AND

of which such Theocracy's {Monarchy's England, Jordan, Saudi etc..} should be abolished forever off the Face of this blesseth, never curseth, Holyi Cosmic, NEBULA-Built Space-Ship Earth.

Besides [Iran] not having any International acclaimed & proud 'Patents" "Copy-Right" or "Modern World Achievements" etc.. under its belt, so That big mouth Iran only hath OIL/Gas/Petro, which was forcefully Stolen from the Persians via Islamic Religio Pretexts from His Majesty; Shah Palavi (Monarch, not Theocrat), and U.S.A et al. [Remember Jimmy Carter Days?] Now, bear w/me;

YesterYear, after the speculative run-up on Oils Petro Price charts to it's equilibrium price ($55.00bbl) Today, THAT

If AMERICA & Friends gang-up via Saudi, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon and help "Isolate" Iran's Importing & Exporting their (Stolen) PETRO & the Products & Good's that are made from Crude (Sweet, Sour la la la) Then i Asure You within 36 Months Young Iranians will give the Ayatollahs , a boot back "..To The STONE AGES.." or have regime change or a REVOLUTION that they never imagined!

YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!

Let's Go GEO-COMMUNITY Let's Do iT! YES WE CAN..!OR

OR, Think in terms of dividing NORTH from the SOUTH like: Example:

So, Reverend. I have some hopes and concerns for *you.*

That maybe you can get off these 'wedge issues' and help be part of making a future for all our children to *live* in, rather than telling people all they can hope for is some self-righteous apocalyptic *ruin.*

I know it's a foreign concept, but you can't 'end abortion' by *telling people to do so louder.*

This is a real and practical problem, among the many the people you've supported have left us with.

"On social issues, we have many obvious areas of disagreement, including the President's recent decision to lift the ban on federal funding for international organizations promoting or performing abortion. In the coming years,"

Deceptive. This is not a 'recent decision,' this is a campaign promise that the Religious right used to claim Obama was 'pro-infanticide' by some convoluted logic.

Lifting the *gag-rule* that caused family planning services which do not toe an extreme Right theological line by refusing to even *discuss* options like abortion (thus violating the ethical principle of informed consent, not to mention generally also being the same people who oppose *contraception*) is *part* of Obama's intention to reduce abortions by supporting, rather than 'punishing' potential mothers.

Always has been.

It also *works* better than making off like ignorance and fear and shame and self-righteousness somehow prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions. Actually, these things *increase* them. Not to mention increasing the suffering associated with unplanned pregnancies...

No, this isn't the 'sudden change' that the Christian Right now proclaims it is, even after trying to *use* this promised policy to oppose Obama's election.

It's part of a coherent plan, one that's known to work. Gag orders and fire and brimstone don't help mothers or potential mothers. Only scare people out of making good decisions.

I have two questions for Rav. Hagee:
1) Is Obama doomed to hell for supporting a woman's right to choose or lifting the ban on federal funding for international organizations promoting or performing abortion?
2) Do you repudiate the words of Rush Limbaugh, who said he hopes Obama fails?

To CCNL who wrote:"Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant..."

You really hate Jesus and Christians, don't you?

So much so that you calim, at the same time, that he is myth and 30% percent authentic.

You have issues.

Sarah Palins mentor on foreign policy, Henry Kissinger, says we should talk to Iran without pre-conditions.

The Bush policy of not speaking to enemies unless they totally capitulate in advance to all our demands, is pointless.

Nothing is lost by talking. Communication is not concession.

Also, maybe you Christians should just forget about homosexuality. You will not be able eradicate it, and it is not legal for you to punish homosexuals just for existing. Tolerance is your only option.

Read your new testament and treat homosexuality the way Jesus did. Ignore it.

Peaceful? As long as we have the idea that only certain countries can have all the weapons while others are restricted, forget peace.

If you want peace, make all trade open to everyone, quit imposing trade sanctions.

If one man can have a gun, then all should have guns.

@ bobmoses: Not all of us, sir - a few of us on each side understand the difference between making a point and merely shouting.

Good piece! I am an Obama supporter, and often disagree with Pastor Hagee. It is terrific to read that, even as President Obama reaches out to those whose views do not match his own, those in opposition are reaching back and encouraging others to do the same.

I applaud Mr. Hagee's intent to bridge partisan bickering and to bring a more compromising atmosphere to our nation. I do however remind Mr. Hagee (along with others who have done so) the Apostle Paul had a very narrow vision of the world. And I feel certain that his preaching to recognize the Roman government was an attempt to keep Christianity alive at time when anti-government behavior would have written the last chapter of a growing part of the Jewish Christian faith.

Truly, a nationalistic faith was never imagined nor espoused by Apostles or Christian writers.

In regards to the comments defining Jesus as a delusional victim of being born ... yes he would be just that if he in fact is not the Son of God. And yes we all have to choose to believe either Jesus to be a miss guided fool or being Lord and Savior. Isn't it great we have that choice! My advice is to be kind and respect everyone's choice. Don't be cynical in response to people of faith and don't be disrespectful to people of no faith.

And please do not disregard the thoughts of those of us who are spelling challenged!

CCNL

You really need to be more creative with your posts and stop quoting the same liberal theologians everytime. Really, can't you do better than simply cutting and pasting your post from last week to a different question?

By referrencing the sources that you do, you simply engage in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Anybody can "prove" something by seeking sources of information that agree with them to begin with rather than OBJECTIVELY - no doubt a novel concept to you - reviewing literature that you may not agree with.

Be more original.

John Hagee has no cocmphrehension of one word that appears in the Bible quite frequently--JUSTICE. Israel undoubtedly has a right to exist not so much because God has given them their traditional land, but because the United Nations has so declared it. But most assurely the Palestinians also have a right to exist on their traditional land which they have occupied for hundreds of years.

Our role as a nation should not be to advocate for Israel over the Palastinians, but to mediate between the two so that they can live in peace with each other as they have done for hundreds of years. Mediate for JUSTICE, which is hard to find in the Israeli approach at the present time. Palestinians have a right to live in peace, not to be occupied, not to be fenced in, not to be treated like they have no human rights.

Thank God that Hagee has no clout in Washington and speaks only for his own followers who are not a significant component of the evangelical community. In short, he's a loud mouth talks a lot but has little to say of worth.\

Its interesting to actually look at the epistles that Paul is writing when he makes comments such as the verse in Romans. Much of Paul's teachings were directly treasonous, he was literally calling Jesus Lord and King both of which went directly against the notion that Caesar was Lord and would bring peace. The Roman empire had a vision for the world, their own vision of peace with Caesar as Lord, women and children subservient, and slaves unmentioned chattel. Paul more often than not was advocating for a liberation of lives, for a radically different community where selflessness and sacrifice for the least and the few came first. He empowered people in mutual submission to one another, while challenging the very principles that his culture held high. He was calling the people to be a revolutionary community, and the verses that Hagee quoted are meant to quell stupidity. Paul didn't commit acts of treason to overthrow the government or promote anarchy but to advocate for the creation of a community that serves the world around it in love. What he is challenging these communities to do in references to the government (the Roman Empire) is to be cautious, to not draw attention for attention's sake or to take power for themselves, yet to maintain the alternative and empowering vision for those around them.

What can be learned from these passages and applied today is that the Church is not meant to seek power in government to control the lives of the people, rather it is meant to create an alternative vision for living and live it out. To support and uplift the least and the few in the community that the culture shuns and derides, to act out of mutual love and sacrifice for the poor, the widow, and the oppressed definitely without regard to their nationality. To be peacemakers, and bridgebuilders to influence through service rather than poltical power.

In answer to what Christians should do about laws concerning abortion and homosexuality, Paul seems pretty clear, we are not meant to seek legislation or consolidate political power, but to be a living community that brings about reconciliation and hope. To treat people as people with real concerns and needs rather than as singular statistical issues, to look at them holistically and to create an environment where they are not threatened but desire to be partnered with on their own spiritual journey.

Nice to see the Christian hating bigots responding as expected, despite Hagee's conciliatory remarks.

At least we can still count on some things.

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established,"

That must be one of the dumbest things ever written. God established Hitler, so you should submit to Hitler?

I hope John Hagee in reality makes a distiction here and is submitting to Obama because Obama is not only elected but following the democratic rules, while Hitler, although elected, did not and had to be opposed. So, I take it Hagee would NOT support Hitler.

First the small and shallow John Mark Reynolds spews his evangelical intolerance and now Hagee the Catholic hater. When is WaPo going to feature the black racist Jeremiah Wright or the pompous, fat homophobe Dobson. "On Faith" has turned into a jamboree or religious ignorance for fame, power and greed.

Here you go, Reverend: just when you thought you had all those damning YouTube videos purged!

http://vimeo.com/251385

Y'see, Reverend, videos don't lie. Only people who think they have a "get out of Hell free" card lie.

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The New P R E A M B L E: For a New-Age in Faith Exchanging for the immaculate conception of the O.ne U.niversal R.eligion Book of Reality: “IT”s TRUE (Opposite of MYTH):

LiFE, as we know "IT" is a MIRACLE & never is being Born any, Man-Made, curseth nor Sineth Story!

WHEREFORE:

"WE, The-People Of Holyi-Cosmic NEBULA-Built Space-Ship Earth, Own [this] Blue-Ball. Never-Again Theocrats nor Monarchs, who mismanaged IT & tried to hurt US!

HALLALUYA! The Religion of Everything, Uniting the Science of Everything is now upon US;

Sing unto the ALMIGHY isSHhVARA ALLAH YAWEH (The Rock) and Praise the Holyi-NO-WOMB&MAN! Not MOSES, not YASHUA, not MOSSA, not VYASA, not GAUTAMA, not CONFUSION...

Hark! There is Only "IT" being "ITSELF" in and of Us-All. Not the Nazarene (Judeo-Christs), not the Meshiach, (Judeo-Jews) not the Mahdi (Judeo-Islams) not the Maitreya (Judeo-Buddhas) , not the Kali (Judeo-Hindus…, only "IT." (He/SHE-less).

Remember: Only trust "IT" (G-d, by a 1,000 names, if any, never was nor ever be a He/Him nor a She/Her) in & around YE! The Animates & the Inanimate!"
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Happy Every Day! Or Happy G-D Hunting!

Pastor Hagee, how does Obama fit in your plans to fulfill our Biblical destiny to save Israel from the heathen Muslim hordes and thereby pave the way for the Second Coming? Will you and your buddy Joe Lieberman be petitioning him to bomb Iran as you did with George Bush? Hallelujah!

Oh, and about thinking the Catholic church is the Great Satan, will you be able to convince Obama to start their systematic extermination?

As we know, Reverend, it doesn't matter who we kill, who we kick to the curb, or to whom we behave in the most un-Jesus-like manner, since all we need to do to earn our "get out of Hell free" card is accept Jesus.

That, and send you a tithe: by the grace of God and the sheer stupidity of His supplicants, you have a lot of estate to maintain. Let's not forget that. You have to keep up with the Osteens.

"Also, what is the Christian response to rules allowing homosexuals to (among other things) serve openly in the nation's armed forces?Should Christians refuse to serve (even if drafted) under these conditions?"

What's wrong with you?

We are all Americans.

If not, how about giving us gay Americans our tax money back? You know, the tax money that goes to pay for things like your family benefit, survivor benefits, etc?

Grow up and try to be a decent human being already.

Dear Pastor John Hagee, I am so delighted reading your article on President obama and that we have to pray for him frevently without reserve. We do heartily although we aren't Americans. Yes there are some issues we are disagree with, but I believe that God gives him for us for the US of America as for the world. So I absolutely stay with you that is to support him in prayer because our God can use him and that because we pray frevently for him, President Barsck Obama. May God Lord bless you too.

I hope I'm not the first person to recognize that if the admonition behind the first verse cited by Hagee in this article ("Everyone must submit...") permeates all nations (as he seems to suggest it does), then Iran's government is as legitimate as ours. Why, then, ought we not dialogue with a regime implanted by the same divine authority that establishes the U.S. government?

The Reality of Contemporary Christianity for Those Eyes That Have Not Seen--

Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/
carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a mamzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). Analyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, On Faith panelists) via the NT and related documents have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hittites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

For added "pizzazz", Catholic/Christian theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

Current crises:

Pedophiliac priests, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

3. Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

Current crises:

Adulterous preachers, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals (e.g. John Hagee) and atonement theology.

Pastor Hagee:

Do you still claim that your support for Israel has nothing to do with End Times theology?

http://www.alternet.org/audits/57273/

For my part, one of the highlights of the last presidential campaign was when John McCain was forced into renouncing your endorsement like it was something that he'd accidentally carried into his house on the bottom of his shoe.

Pastor Hagee: I agree with your Biblically based view of civil government. My question is this. What is the proper response to legislation such as the Freedom of Choice Act which allows unrestricted abortion? Also, what is the Christian response to rules allowing homosexuals to (among other things) serve openly in the nation's armed forces? Should Christians refuse to serve (even if drafted) under these conditions?