How is it that African peoples who were not Christian were objectified, enslaved, and abused by people who called themselves Christian, heard the gospel preached by their oppressors, yet heard and believed the good news?
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Thank you Jonathan for your forthright response to Dr. Wright's talks. I have had the privilege of studying the black church as part of my historical studies in graduate school. Thirteen years later I enjoy meeting in multi-racial, multi-class community at Beyond Welfare for dinner each week. We still struggle to help our town -- Ames Iowa -- understand what it means for us to get along with our neighbors.
Peace,
Randy Gabrielse
May 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 8, 2008 15:26
By miracle, even reconciliation is possible. More than a decade after I met Rev. Barber and learned that I was a racist by birthright...
Oh cry me a river.
Over 90% of blacks vote for Obama. Before there was Obama the Clintons counted on the black vote. Bill did not invent the race card but he perfected its use. Hillary not only counted on the black vote to get the nomination but to be elected President.
Year after year, blacks, no matter if the candidate is white or black, vote 90% for the democrat candidate and they absolutely loved the Clintons. Bill even suggested that he was the first black president. Is the any surprise that Bill Clinton got angry in S.C. He was angry becasuse the black vote always belong to a Clinton until there was a black candidate. Now not even the Clintons can get a black person to vote for them. Why? Because the blacks are raciest by birthright too. Obama says he is a uniter but in the end he will expose our divisions and he will be a divider. Not because of white race attitudes but because of black race voting patterns.
Now the black vote belongs to this black man Obama no matter what he does or who he associates with or what are his policies. They don't care. I garantee you they could care less if he lies, cheats or is anti-American. The raciest blacks will no longer vote for a Clinton because there is a guy running who is the same color as they are. That is all that matters to them.
May 7, 2008 6:58 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 7, 2008 18:58
Another apologist for the Reverend Wright and his "prophetic roots". If Blacks think the injustice done to them is something that I will ever personally accept guilt for, they are as delusional as Dick Cheney and George Bush.
All this over dramatic hype, hand wringing, shouting and parading around draped in the excuse of the "historic Black church" does nothing more than alienate whites and make them wonder what, if any, agenda blacks have if and when Brother Obama becomes their president.
I'm starting to get the same feeling about Obama that I had with Romney - that his aliegance would not be to all Americans but to his bigoted elders in Salt Lake City or that Huckabee would be a pawn of the religious right neochristians.
Pose, praise and bad mouth whitey or whatever is your imagined enemies and scapegoats with your own on Sunday. It's still your right in America but keep your narrow minded religion and racism out of government and politics. You are destroying Obama's opportunity to end the Rovaian nightmare we are now in because other religious zealots chose to make it Cheney's Jesuslandia.
May 7, 2008 4:02 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 7, 2008 16:02
Hark!
Please know that the word 'Church' means 'Universe'. So the Universe does not Belong to any "Black(Owned)Church" or ANY Black Man, but to 'ALL' BOYS & GIRLS of a PLANET!, Minus their religion(s) too. Soo,
After Reading Ye Jive "i" am now convinced that this Nation is 'NOT' Ready for a 'Colored' President!
Hint: Even if a 1/2 White & 1/2 Black Man, like Obama becomes President; for 4 or 8 Years, Will this in fact 'Eliminate' the "White Cracker & Black Cracker Divide ,here, in Holy Cosmic Made United States AMERiCA?!
FACT: "i"m still hearing, in PUBLiC, in N.Y.C.
(Where Al Sharpton is Today organizing a Black Protest Army made-up of mostly Black-Church-Goers & their Kin & friends, against NYC Police Men)
the "N" word. Please (under Cover) Take a train Ride & a Bus Ride in N.Y.C. & Listen to the Middle Schoolers & High Schoolers , as they get out in Public, talk dat Shiat!!!?????
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Please. Stop Worshiping 'iMPORTED-RELiGiON(s)' (not made & Prophecied in sweet sweet U.S. of A.,s)! Other wise, ye will never be genuine Americans nor ever be Ye True (opposite of Myth) to your selves nor others, never mind the "Holy-No-Man!"
PS: O.U.R. 'Not' Jealous & Thus fearless Lord is niether a 'HE/HiM" nor a "SHE/HER". So JUSTLY never again refer to any G-d as a 'he' nor a 'she' , but instead please say,
"G-D is an "IT" being "iTSELF in an of Us All, since We are Together Forever With Source-One (Eponymous ECLAT + i = LiFE/Photons)!
HALLALUYA!
Praise the Creator/Maker of O.U.R. (O.ne U.niversal R.eligion) Holy Cosmic-Made "Fiat-Lux!"
GOODBYE 'Pre-Apocalyptic' thinking GENES"i"S!
HELLO 'Apocalyptic thinking NEW-SONG of a 'Genesis', cometh from All ye Oldy's, that might still have 'Some-Goody's' left over in them Preapocalyptic scripture(s) before the death of all of them..
SO, Sing Unto The LORD a "NEW SONG", as Prophesied!
Sing the Awareness of O.U.,R. Holy Cosmic Made "TRANS{FiNiTY}" aka OUR 'Reality' on a Holy Blessed (never any Biblical Sin/Curse story's..) Trans{Finite} S.pace-S.hip Momma/Poppo Earth! aka S.S. GAiA, aka S.S. GEOiD, aka S.S. TELLUSng something!
Praise O.U.R. genuine Holy Cosmic Grand-MA/PA "NEBULA" whom hath thus also being Created inturn by their 'Black (invisible) Energy & Black (Dark) Matter Parent of "IT"'s (Eclati) "Cosmic FLATULANCE Placement Phenomonena/On" within the Holy Cosmic Heart-Beat of O.U.R. Creator/Maker & "IT"'s confines!!
WHEREFORE: The Holy No Man Knoweth All of "IT"'s Stuffs & things (Animates & Inanimates) AND nothing is External to the Creator of O.U.R. very own, genuine Holy Cosmic Made "FiAT-LUX"!
Note: The "TRANS{FiNiTY}" Faith, aka the "Holy Cosmic Feelers Faith" (a Belief, Like a Religion, yet better) is Propheticaly Born, Raised & Made-In-AMERiCA as Promised all Potential HUE{MATES}, no longer Humans!!
BEHOLD! "The Religion Of Everything, bedfore the Science Of Everything", is now Upon all of Holy Cosmic Build Space-Ship momma/Poppo Earth's Inhabitants & mixed Multitudals!!
HENCE: Be Proud of Your "NEW-NAMES" & NEW-SONGS" coming from All O.U.R. old songs!
"IT" is impossible to be born in any Man-Made, in whatever Creature Tongues Today, via theie, as if G-D , of a "SiN" or via a "CURSETH" Story's!
Note: If Ye believe in someone elses story that Ye are TRULY (as if opposite of Myth) are "Born in Sin Story" then ye are in denial to self & others. And thus this means that YOU & Your KiN or Kinds (Blacks...) are Born Cursed!!!
This then Proves that Blacks are born in Sin, Hence Why Prisons & Crimes are a "Black Mans (Biblical) Curseth Prophecy"!
Ye are still in "Chains" if ye believe & worship them "iMPORTED" Story's (Bible/Koran/Gitas etc..not originating here) Unless for (Black Churching Around) it is a "Organized" front to Unite a "Black Conspiracy" against a "White Conspiracy" vis a vis!???
GoodBye Old "TiME" (via 'Temperature' knowledge, not clock times) Pre-Apocalyptic Man Made Religio(n's)! INSTEAD:
MAGNiFY, UPHOLD & Make HONORABLE ye Holy "ECLAT + "i" = LiFE/Photon awareness!"
G-D is never & was not a He or a Her. Please Learn to say "IT" or "IT" being "ITSELF" in and of Us all. And Please,
Stay Away from saying "AMEN" (thanking a 1/2 RAM & 1/2 Man Beast)! Never Thank this ancient relic beast. For Ye know not whom are thanking! And
Never again participate in any Christian "EUCHARIsT" which is Symbolic "VAMPiRiSM (Eating a him/his/Mans 'Flesh' like Piggmy's) and Never Drink his/man, not Woman, 'Blood' via Symbolic VAMPIRiSM!
PS: This Pre-Apocalyptic Behaviour, as ritual, is known as the (un) holy "PUKE-A-Risk"! And so is VOODOOiusm, Shamanism, Wiccan/Witchism, Paganism etc..! SHAME on all of YE Pre-Apocalyptic Practitioners!!
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For Your Info, please know that as an Israeli-American raised by African-Americans, that "i" am honored to say that "i" have a 1/2 Black 1/2 White "Nephew-In-Law" whom is going to be a Father soon. Praise The Holy No-Man Lord ECLATi!
Happy G-d Hunting. And Happy everyday!
May 7, 2008 11:30 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 7, 2008 11:30