Presidents Should Not Be Liars

For security reasons, the whole truth cannot always be revealed, but it is quite obvious that lies are seldom made to protect our nation.

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MC Blundy:

This is such a patently misleading hyperbole, the only sad part about it is that it was written by a former U.S President. Therefore when he lies it puts to shame the entire nation. From the first visit of Mr. Carter to Israel, he has become known as a flaky character, unhinged and out of place. He was only a Governor of the State of Georgia when he first arrived to see Premier Golda Meir and proceeded with a cheesy lecture about regional affairs. It was so corny that she asked an assistant to get him a driver and take him on a tour just so that she could get on with her work. It is well known that Premier Begin did not think much of him, nor of his untested team to use polite languague. According to several close assistants who wrote about these affairs he had a bad time with president Carter from the their first meetings when he showed him the maps of Israel and its narrow borders. The POTUS was unmoved. It is an utter myth that he had that special relationship based on his honesty because no one trusted him than and his record since his hasty departure is that of seldom telling the truth, like a bad reporter who makes up stories, pastes items, distorts facts and abuses his standing as an X U.S president, he stands as one of the nation's worst presidents. His endless failures speak for the rest. On the issue of trust-it is only in his lofty imagination.

minh:

Wait...
President Jimmy Carter is about to teach American Newton-Galilean physics of 911.

It'll be short and may go like this

S=v0t+1/2at^2
since v0=0
and a=g=32.17ft/s2

t=sqrt(2S/g)

s1=1368ft
s2=1362ft
s7=610ft

In vacuum:
t1=9.2s
t2=9.2s
t7=6.2s

Real-time:
t1=10s
t2=10s
t7=7s

Any question ?


minh:

Thank you for speaking the truth.

dePaul Consiglio:

It is quite true Mr Carter that a President of the US should be truthful. But if you and those that followed you are truthful then why the recent dis to Senator Clinton and her husband former President Bill Clinton by yourself and Senator Ted Kennedy?
Where's does the rif stem from? Just a new age thing with Mr Obama or is something else at play here?
And whould you do a circle on the opposing party or do you think they would do one on you or on me like all of you have since President Truman's circle with President Eisenhower's nose? Do you call it the ear?
Tell us for real Mr Carter what is the truth a presidnet like any of you have and haven't told?


Sincerely

dePaul Consiglio

dePaul Consiglio:

It is quite true Mr Carter that a President of the US should be truthful. But if you and those that followed you are truthful then why the recent dis to Senator Clinton and her husband former President Bill Clinton by yourself and Senator Ted Kennedy?
Where's does the rif stem from? Just a new age thing with Mr Obama or is something else at play here?
And whould you do a circle on the opposing party or do you think they would do one on you or on me like all of you have since President Truman's circle with President Eisenhower's nose? Do call it the ear?
Tell us for real Mr Carter what is the truth a presidnet like any of you have and haven't told?


Sincerely

dePaul Consiglio

Another Gay:

MILTON FORMAN is gay.

Minh:

It's already too late for 1 mln Iraqis. So will we wait for the Iran war ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6532706479776208572
http://www.youtube.com/v/1HJcisBW_oA

Polak:

Why is this so difficult for you people to understand ? There were 3 towers, 4 planes, and 5 dancing Israelis. Because the 4 planes were destined (programmed) to hit WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 and the Pentagon but only two arrived at destination. WTC7 were destroyed because if were it standing, thermite would be discovered the next day. Not sure about the Pentagon, but it wasn't a plane like 757. Few months ago, some Japanese MP question that and show some internet picture quite big, can be seen on Youtube.
Forget it. All video clips is saved in millions of PC world wide, and the physics needed to understand freefall motion is taught in school every where on earth for student of 15. This won't go away, so don't make hasty move. Let's the masses build-up so we can have a real revolution against the establishment. Slowly, take it easy and let the old man to rest. He's done his part.


Anonymous:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPu5P138xtI

The answer was silence. He touched his right ear and smile. "I can't hear you" :-)

Sure, educated as a nuclear physicist, he could do the math himself.

Minh:

May I ask one question to Jimmy Carter concerning the truth and a former president, worked as Italian prime minister while you were president of the USA:

What is your reaction to former Italian president Francesco Cossiga comment on the most prestigious Italian newspaper in Nov'07. Is he speaking the truth or he is just another anti-semite like you :-) ?

Could the speculation here http://ronpaul.meetup.com/boards/thread/3903975
is well founded ?

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/nsa/foreign_leaders.phtml

Dave:

Amen, brother. I would also recommend Peter Charleton's book -- LIES IN A MIRROR -- for insight into additional consequences of lies, especially self-deception.

Unfortunately, while President Carter made honesty a priority, his behavior has not always reflected that ideal. Here's an example abstracted from my email records:

The Marston Affair (1978)

At 01:27 PM 4/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Dear William Safire:

I am continuing to work on my book chapter involving the crooked exploits of the once - Honorable Joshua Eilberg. Joshua was lobbied
by the Association of American Universities in 1975 and in 1976, for undisclosed considerations, pushed through the "Eilberg Amendment" granting American universities "Special Handling" with regards to hiring foreign national professors and researchers. (The universities did not have to attest that they were usurping the employment rights of American citizens. Only one other class of employees, "Basque Sheepherders," had such treatment.) This change destroyed the employment prospects of American citizen scientist Ph.D.s in large part, since they tend to demand higher salaries than "third world" Ph.D.s. The National Science Foundation enshrined this as a desirable outcome in 1987. The Immigration Act of 1990,
which created the controversial H-1B visa, cited the "Eilberg Amendment" as precedent.

My research encountered some interesting information in President Carter's archives,
including mention of a telephone call from Rep. Joshua Eilberg on Friday, November 4, 1977
but no calls from Rep. Eilberg shown on Monday, November 7, as cited in your article
below. It could be a cover - up. It is interesting even today, as both Rep. Eilberg and
President Carter are still alive. I last talked with Rep. Eilberg in Philadelphia about three
years ago.

Joshua Eilberg
Contact Information Redacted
___________

www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/ diary/1977/d110477t.pdf for Friday, November 4, 1977

THE DAILY DIARY OF PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON, D.C. November 4, 1977

2:57 PM

The President was telephoned by Representative Joshua Eilberg (D-Pennsylvania). The call was not completed.

5:13 PM
The President telephoned Representative Eilberg. The call was not completed.

5:58 - 6:00 PM

The President talked with Representative Eilberg. (Call placed by Representative Eilberg)
________

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/diary/1977/d110777t.pdf
for Monday, November 7, 1977

shows no entries for a conversation with Rep. Joshua Eilberg.

Instead, we see:

3:27 3:29 The President talked with Governor Brendan T. Byrne (D-New Jersey). (Call placed by President Carter)

3:43 - 3:46 The President talked with Attorney General Bell. (Call received by President Carter)

Note that approximately 14 minutes are unaccounted for in the official record between these two events.
________

ESSAY Excerpt
Big-Shot Crook Goes Free
By William Safire
New York Times, March 1, 1979 Page A19

WASHINGTON, Feb. 28 - Fourteen months ago - on Nov. 7, 1977 - President Carter took a call in the Oval Office from Pennsylvania Congressman Joshua Eilberg. The Congressman, who was under investigation by the Republican U.S. Attorney in Philadelphia, was agitated: He wanted that prosecutor, David Marston, fired.


Instead of refusing to engage in any obstruction of Justice. Jimmy Carter did a curious thing: He called Attorney General Griffin Bell, reached him in his automobile, and told him to call back lest they be overheard on the open radio line.

The Attorney General ducked into clothing store - the Brooks Brothers above Duke Zeibert's restaurant and called in. He later recalled the conversation:

"What's the status of the U.S. Attorney in Philadelphia?" the President asked.

"I expect I'll be replacing him about the first of the year," Mr. Bell replied.

"Well, I wish you'd hurry up. I'm getting a lot of complaints about you from Eilberg . . . . He claims that this man In Philadelphia doesn't do anything but prosecute Democrats."

"They seem to tell me that, too," said Mr. Bell.

"I wish you'd hurry," Bell says the President urged again. Mr. Bell hurried; he fired the prosecutor who had dared to investigate Mr. Eilberg, the word leaked about the potential obstruction of justice, "the Marston affair" made headlines, the fired prosecutor ran for political office and lost.....

Response from Safire - Dear Reader:

As you can imagine, I've been swamped with e-mails responding to my column I recent months. I read them all, most assuredly including yours. But I cannot begin to answer individually or I would have no time left to write a column that delights, illuminates, stimulates or infuriates.
Ergo this automated response. (Curious, how "automated" has replaced "automatic". And why do I use "ergo" when "therefore" will do? ) Don't take offense and don't stop writing. I'll keep reading what you send me.

Sincerely,

William Safire

I also contacted President Carter and did not receive a reply.

Richard Nantelle:

Dear Mr. President:

Thank you for continuing to speak the truth.

You have been an exemplary statesman and ambassador for our nation since you left office. Your actions have supported your words.

As I read your most recently published books, I am reminded of this: if the American people cannot trust the words (and deeds) of their leaders, then we are a lost nation.

Please continue helping us find our way again.

May God bless you and your family in everything you do.

Concerned World Citizen:

Dear President Carter

Please have the US Congress commission a full investigative report on Scientology. Scientology was born in USA.

Concerned World Citizen

Jay Diamond:

The most glaring, destructive, and disgusting lie invented and maintained by the handlers of George W. Bush is their manifestly false insistance that the attack on, and occupation of Iraq is of material importance to the security of the United States.

As in every other insistence with this administration, the prime consideration...or the ONLY consideration with respect to policy has been the calculation of the political potential in any situation.

Why this is not written or spoken about more in the press and on radio and television is an enduring mystery and a monumental failure of "commentators".

Mark me well....Bush et al did Iraq for no other reason than to bring about an historic 2004 landslide for Dubya.

They DID think it would be easy and that it would be over in 3 weeks, and they DID think that all the American soldiers would be home by Christmas 2003.

None other than Sean Hannity said this to me in a phone conversation in February 2003. In answer to my skepticism about the impending attack, he said that he was regularly in touch with people "at the top" (likely Rove, since Hannity's program is a reliable transcript of Rove "information") and that they assured him that it was a done deal that the main fighting would be all over before three weeks, and that the troops would be back by Christmas that year.

This is a fact, though Hannity will deny it and denounce me as a liar. It is, however, the blunt truth.

But even if this corroboration had not taken place, it is clear to me that Bush's political wing, which had sway over everything he did, also was pre-eminent in the planning of the attack and occupation of Iraq.

The point was to bulldoze low-information voters into seeing Bush as having avenged 9/11, and thereby to bring about an historic landslide in 2004 which would have given Bush the "political capital" to truly advance his domestic agenda of rolling back the New Deal.

Bear in mind, his first intiative after "re-election" was to vainly attempt to privatize, ie, END, Social Security. Well, if he had actually had the "political capital" he bragged about after barely squeaking by on election day 2004 by less than 2% ( the lowest re-election percentage by any president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916)he probably would have succeeded in castrating Social Security, and would have gone inot Republican history (as opposed to actual history) as the man who redressed the "evil socialist" New Deal, and thereby restored "freedom" to America.

Bottom line: Bush knew Iraq had zero to do with the security of the United States. And Bush also knew that a quick kill in Iraq would trick huge numbers of uninformed voters into thinking he had saved them and saved the USA.

EVERY single US soldier, AND every single Iraqi civilian who has been killed since March 20, 2003, died because they were sacrificed to Karl Rove's "re-election" strategy for Bush in 2004.

Nothing else.

So God Bless Jimmy Carter for agian telling the truth.

And for that matter, I leave Bush to heaven and the merciful providence he purports to believe in.

Jay Diamond:

The most glaring, destructive, and disgusting lie invented and maintained by the handlers of George W. Bush is their manifestly false insistance that the attack on, and occupation of Iraq is of material importance to the security of the United States.

As in every other insistence with this administration, the prime consideration...or the ONLY consideration with respect to policy has been the calculation of the political potential in any situation.

Why this is not written or spoken about more in the press and on radio and television is an enduring mystery and a monumental failure of "commentators".

Mark me well....Bush et al did Iraq for no other reason than to bring about an historic 2004 landslide for Dubya.

They DID think it would be easy and that it would be over in 3 weeks, and they DID think that all the American soldiers would be home by Christmas 2003.

None other than Sean Hannity said this to me in a phone conversation in February 2003. In answer to my skepticism about the impending attack, he said that he was regularly in touch with people "at the top" (likely Rove, since Hannity's program is a reliable transcript of Rove "information") and that they assured him that it was a done deal that the main fighting would be all over before three weeks, and that the troops would be back by Christmas that year.

This is a fact, though Hannity will deny it and denounce me as a liar. It is, however, the blunt truth.

But even if this corroboration had not taken place, it is clear to me that Bush's political wing, which had sway over everything he did, also was pre-eminent in the planning of the attack and occupation of Iraq.

The point was to bulldoze low-information voters into seeing Bush as having avenged 9/11, and thereby to bring about an historic landslide in 2004 which would have given Bush the "political capital" to truly advance his domestic agenda of rolling back the New Deal.

Bear in mind, his first intiative after "re-election" was to vainly attempt to privatize, ie, END, Social Security. Well, if he had actually had the "political capital" he bragged about after barely squeaking by on election day 2004 by less than 2% ( the lowest re-election percentage by any president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916)he probably would have succeeded in castrating Social Security, and would have gone inot Republican history (as opposed to actual history) as the man who redressed the "evil socialist" New Deal, and thereby restored "freedom" to America.

Bottom line: Bush knew Iraq had zero to do with the security of the United States. And Bush also knew that a quick kill in Iraq would trick huge numbers of uninformed voters into thinking he had saved them and saved the USA.

EVERY single US soldier, AND every single Iraqi civilian who has been killed since March 20, 2003, died because they were sacrificed to Karl Rove's "re-election" strategy for Bush in 2004.

Nothing else.

So God Bless Jimmy Carter for agian telling the truth.

And for that matter, I leave Bush to heaven and the merciful providence he purports to believe in.

Jay Diamond:

The most glaring, destructive, and disgusting lie invented and maintained by the handlers of George W. Bush is their manifestly false insistance that the attack on, and occupation of Iraq is of material importance to the security of the United States.

As in every other insistence with this administration, the prime consideration...or the ONLY consideration with respect to policy has been the calculation of the political potential in any situation.

Why this is not written or spoken about more in the press and on radio and television is an enduring mystery and a monumental failure of "commentators".

Mark me well....Bush et al did Iraq for no other reason than to bring about an historic 2004 landslide for Dubya.

They DID think it would be easy and that it would be over in 3 weeks, and they DID think that all the American soldiers would be home by Christmas 2003.

None other than Sean Hannity said this to me in a phone conversation in February 2003. In answer to my skepticism about the impending attack, he said that he was regularly in touch with people "at the top" (likely Rove, since Hannity's program is a reliable transcript of Rove "information") and that they assured him that it was a done deal that the main fighting would be all over before three weeks, and that the troops would be back by Christmas that year.

This is a fact, though Hannity will deny it and denounce me as a liar. It is, however, the blunt truth.

But even if this corroboration had not taken place, it is clear to me that Bush's political wing, which had sway over everything he did, also was pre-eminent in the planning of the attack and occupation of Iraq.

The point was to bulldoze low-information voters into seeing Bush as having avenged 9/11, and thereby to bring about an historic landslide in 2004 which would have given Bush the "political capital" to truly advance his domestic agenda of rolling back the New Deal.

Bear in mind, his first intiative after "re-election" was to vainly attempt to privatize, ie, END, Social Security. Well, if he had actually had the "political capital" he bragged about after barely squeaking by on election day 2004 by less than 2% ( the lowest re-election percentage by any president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916)he probably would have succeeded in castrating Social Security, and would have gone inot Republican history (as opposed to actual history) as the man who redressed the "evil socialist" New Deal, and thereby restored "freedom" to America.

Bottom line: Bush knew Iraq had zero to do with the security of the United States. And Bush also knew that a quick kill in Iraq would trick huge numbers of uninformed voters into thinking he had saved them and saved the USA.

EVERY single US soldier, AND every single Iraqi civilian who has been killed since March 20, 2003, died because they were sacrificed to Karl Rove's "re-election" strategy for Bush in 2004.

Nothing else.

So God Bless Jimmy Carter for agian telling the truth.

And for that matter, I leave Bush to heaven and the merciful providence he purports to believe in.

Stan:

Independent11,

A review of readily available information on the Internet on Obama can lead to the conclusion that someone or some organization has been looking out for him since he was born. The feeling would seem to be an organization rather than an individual. There is nothing to support his earning the priviledge of being President of the United States of America. So the conclusion has to be by management. Things like this don't just happen; they have to be orchestrated.

Mike:

Michael,

It's hard to tell sarcasm many times without hearing the inflection of someones voice and mannerisms. Hence why I don't post much or do messenger services. It's hard to tell when someone is joking, being sarcastic or a smart***.

Believe it or not, they don't come much more sarcastic than I am capable of being face to face.

One last point. I don't think having served in the military is anymore important to being president than having served office before is important.

If a candidate has a history of being a good leader, good manager of people and understands what it takes to run a business or company, organization, government, and so much more than that and, has the necessary intangibles for the job that is fine with me. Finding that needle in a haystack of self interest, dishonest, and I would sell my child for a vote politicians of today is impossible to find. AS far as I am concerned, Carter was about as honest as it gets whether or not anyone thinks he was a good president or not.

I agree with you, I don't think I will ever see a candidate I truly want in office. I also feel both parties are equally corrupt and right now the Republicans are more so than the Democrats.

John Kooms:

Much of the media , pundits and a lot of people took joy and still take joy in trashing Jimmy Crater , but there was not and there is not a better man , a better human being or a more honest man out there . What Jimmy Carter has done since leaving office ,tirelessly serving the people shows the kind of man he is , a very rare breed these days sorry to say . The country and the world needs more like him .

Michael O.:

Mike:

“So, in fact you did say you knew who I was going to vote for.”

I take it you don’t do sarcasm. That’s quite all right, not everybody does. No, I did not really think you were going to vote McCain.

“As for thinking I mean that a persons leadership in the military is not a criteria to consider you need to, once again, read my entire post.”

I have. I was referring specifically to your theory of the alleged correlation between a president’s combat background, or lack thereof, and the likelihood of that president’s getting the country into war or keeping it at war. A theory which I’ve shown to be all fluff.

“As I said, I understand that Carter didn't serve in "direct" combat, but neither did Lincoln and that didn't prevent him from being a good leader and earning the moniker "Honest Abe".

Exactly. Glad to see you don’t think a military background is a prerequisite to being a good wartime president.

“For once in my life I would love to vote for someone I want as President not against someone I don't want.”

Forget it. It’s always, and I mean always, a choice of the lesser evil.

Mike:

Michael,

If I read correctly your said in your initial post in response to my initial post you said:

"Well at least we know who is Mike going to vote for in November: Naturally, for the candidate who served in the military, and against the one who did not. That's one more vote for McCain."

So, in fact you did say you knew who I was going to vote for. I have not made up my mind at this juncture who I would prefer but if "YOU" may know, I don't like any of the present candidates and I certainly don't wish to vote for McCain because he has vowed to continue the course set by Bush.

As for thinking I mean that a persons leadership in the military is not a criteria to consider you need to, once again, read my entire post.

Example #1 I said "Second, I do not vote for someone based solely on the fact they served in the military"

Example #2 I said "Furthermore, I would never use a persons former military status (or current status) as a means of judging their leadership ability or credibility and neither should anyone else."

Perhaps I should have been redundant and said "Solely" again in example #2 as I did the first time.

As I said, I understand that Carter didn't serve in "direct" combat, but neither did Lincoln and that didn't prevent him from being a good leader and earning the moniker "Honest Abe".

As I also said, I am not saying Carter was a great leader while in office, but he wasn't anywhere near the disaster that G.W. Bush is and will be remembered for.

Once again, I would never vote for anyone just based solely on one aspect of their being. Be it former military background, Harvard, Yale or Wee Willie Winkie University education, and most importantly, based on how they supported one issue over another. That is unless that issue is some incredibly stupid issue; like extermination of the first born child on the second Tuesday of each February or, going to war when the hard evidence isn't there to justify a preemptive strike.

I think we have to look at the whole spectrum of a candidates personality and record. Unfortunately, most people don't.

For once in my life I would love to vote for someone I want as President not against someone I don't want.

I can rest easy knowing that none of them are G.W. !


Earl C, Virginia Beach:

John from Alexandria is over the edge. John should stand back, take a deep breath, and look into the mirror. Perhaps his wish is misdirected. I cannot imagine that Carter has hurt him in any way. To have this reaction may require a shrink.

President Carter suffers ill treatment from the same hands that worship Ronald Reagan and now Bush. Reagan was a b-grade movie actor and proved to be no better as President. However, his one liners, which were usually written by someone else, seemed to go over well with the ADD crowd. You know this group -- they cannot listen to a complete speech. They can form a solid, nonchanging opinion based on a headline. So when Fox noise shows a picture of the Lincoln-Douglas debates in which they used a picture of the freed slave Frederick Douglas instead of the white guy Stephen Douglas, a lot of Fox followers now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Douglas was the first Black man to run for President of the United States. Oh, well, America is great. And we worry about a few immigrants because they may not learn to speak the English language soon enough. It is really sad.

Mike:

Yes, I admit, Carter was at the Naval Academy from 1943-1946, which if I am not mistaken is the time frame "during" which World War II occurred?

In looking at that time period, Carter was supposed to graduate in 1947 but earned an accelerated degree with honors. Something Bush wouldn't understand how to accomplish nor is capable of doing.

If you think Carter was averting service, he was not. Carter was serving during WWII whether one likes it or not because once you are at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, or the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (which didn't exist during WWII) you are on active duty unless you resign, which we know Carter did not.

In 1943 when Carter was accepted into the Naval Academy nobody knew if WWII would be over by 1945, 1946 or beyond. Many thought the invasion of Japan would extend the Pacific theater of the war for years beyond 1945 and cost millions more lives.

I would also venture to guess during the summers while at the Naval Academy Carter had to serve time aboard a Naval vessel like most midshipmen?

Could any former midshipman correct me if I am wrong on that.

When Bush received his line number of acceptance into the Texas Air National Guard he did so by skipping to the front of the line and over many many others who were waiting much longer than he. Also, when Bush was accepted into the guard he scored last on the flight test and passed with the minimum score. Former Texas Speaker of the House admitted under oath to putting Bush at the front of the line after getting a call from Bush's father. Then he deserted his unit and wasn't punished which is supported by Lawrence Korb (former Asst. Sec. of Def. under Reagan) who did a review of Bush's service record and concluded he didn't fulfill his service obligation. These facts have been covered up, disregarded or ignored very well by those who support him to this day.

I was never implying that Carter was perfect, he was and still is far from it, just like you and me. However, at least Carter's not a pathological liar like Bush. Carter has the guts to go to the Middle East like he recently did and show some diplomatic skills, something Bush lacks.

If we dealt with Terrorists the way Bush has dealt with and many of our allies we will continue to lack the respect this country lacks right now. Sadly, if we continue to espouse the policies that Bush supports and puts forth then then I suppose we will see more body bags of our loved ones? I for one hope we don't see an endless parade of body bags of Bush's failed policies, something McCain supports because I don't want to see a body containing my niece and nephew who are now serving in Iraq and are the 3rd and 4th members of my family to go there.

I am tired of hearing from people that only the Republicans have answers to terrorists.

What's the answer?

Attack everyone that you don't like?

The answer in my mind is through education. If people receive the proper education then they may not be influenced to believe the radicals and extremists who say that American is the "Great Satan".

The lack of education and understanding is the root of the problem in the Middle East, in Africa, and in the U.S..

Tell me how the U.S. helping that situation?

I can tell what is not working, the policies of G.W. Bush. If the policies are working then how come when Bush declared the War to be over in Iraq back in 2003 yet we are still there and we are still losing our troops?

It appears to me that G.W. Bush didn't learn much from his father, President G.H.W. Bush who did serve admirably in WWII and had the smarts to know when to stop a war. G.H.W. was roundly criticized for stopping the Gulf War and leaving Saddam in Power but it turns out if was the right move at the time because the U.S. was not prepared to "occupy and rebuild" a country. Do you think G.W. took that into account? I'm not saying Saddam didn't need to go but G.H.W. Bush had an understanding of international affairs and surrounded himself with people who did as well. G.W. lacks all of that and more.

Thank god he only has less than a year to further screw up the country and the world.

John, Alexandria/USA:

Please die soon Jimmah.

woodmack:

While we are on the subject of WHAT Presidents say, can we also consider HOW Presidents speak. As important as speaking the truth is, thinking the truth first is even more daunting. Then one has to be understood.

President Carter has never sounded other than as someone with a mouthful of wool. Part of his lack of success, it seemed to me, was his "novacained" delivery of every word he uttered. Even poetry he wrote to his dear wife, Rosalyn, sounded alien when he recited it on NPR.

Michael O.:

Mike:

Before you say “Read my previous post thoroughly next time before making any assumptions about my political persuasions”, why don’t you read my previous post thoroughly and show me where did I make such an assumption?

As to your statement “I would never use a persons former military status (or current status) as a means of judging their leadership ability or credibility”:

Perhaps not but you would use that to judge whether or not a president would get us into war. As you said before:

“As the old saying goes, the last ones to want to go to war are those in the military because they know what it's like. Perhaps that is why Kerry, Gore and Carter are so opposed to war, because they have been there.”

Carter, to my knowledge, has not actually seen combat, but that’s beside the point. The point is that you are are trying to put forward a theory that has no basis in reality, as I have shown in all the examples to the contrary. There are plenty more of those examples in history and I am sure you would have come up with them yourself, had your judgment not been clouded by that tired old cliché.

And as to your complaint “it's not wise to make an assumption on who I would be voting for this November”, why not? You obviously don’t think we should be in this war, and your theory is that people who have a combat background detest war more than anyone else. Ergo your preferred candidate to get us out of this war should be the one who fought in Vietnam, not the one who spent the Gulf War at Harvard, right?

Mike:

Yes, I admit, Carter was at the Naval Academy from 1943-1946, which if I am not mistaken is the time frame "during" which World War II occurred?

In looking at that time period, Carter was supposed to graduate in 1947 but earned an accelerated degree with honors. Something Bush wouldn't understand how to accomplish nor is capable of doing.

If you think Carter was averting service, he was not. Carter was serving during WWII whether one likes it or not because once you are at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, or the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs (which didn't exist during WWII) you are on active duty unless you resign, which we know Carter did not.

In 1943 when Carter was accepted into the Naval Academy nobody knew if WWII would be over by 1945, 1946 or beyond. Many thought the invasion of Japan would extend the Pacific theater of the war for years beyond 1945 and cost millions more lives.

I would also venture to guess during the summers while at the Naval Academy Carter had to serve time aboard a Naval vessel like most midshipmen?

Could any former midshipman correct me if I am wrong on that.

When Bush received his line number of acceptance into the Texas Air National Guard he did so by skipping to the front of the line and over many many others who were waiting much longer than he. Also, when Bush was accepted into the guard he scored last on the flight test and passed with the minimum score. Former Texas Speaker of the House admitted under oath to putting Bush at the front of the line after getting a call from Bush's father. Then he deserted his unit and wasn't punished which is supported by Lawrence Korb (former Asst. Sec. of Def. under Reagan) who did a review of Bush's service record and concluded he didn't fulfill his service obligation. These facts have been covered up, disregarded or ignored very well by those who support him to this day.

I was never implying that Carter was perfect, he was and still is far from it, just like you and me. However, at least Carter's not a pathological liar like Bush. Carter has the guts to go to the Middle East like he recently did and show some diplomatic skills, something Bush lacks.

If we dealt with Terrorists the way Bush has dealt with and many of our allies we will continue to lack the respect this country lacks right now. Sadly, if we continue to espouse the policies that Bush supports and puts forth then then I suppose we will see more body bags of our loved ones? I for one hope we don't see an endless parade of body bags of Bush's failed policies, something McCain supports because I don't want to see a body containing my niece and nephew who are now serving in Iraq and are the 3rd and 4th members of my family to go there.

I am tired of hearing from people that only the Republicans have answers to terrorists.

What's the answer?

Attack everyone that you don't like?

The answer in my mind is through education. If people receive the proper education then they may not be influenced to believe the radicals and extremists who say that American is the "Great Satan".

The lack of education and understanding is the root of the problem in the Middle East, in Africa, and in the U.S..

Tell me how the U.S. helping that situation?

I can tell what is not working, the policies of G.W. Bush. If the policies are working then how come when Bush declared the War to be over in Iraq back in 2003 yet we are still there and we are still losing our troops?

It appears to me that G.W. Bush didn't learn much from his father, President G.H.W. Bush who did serve admirably in WWII and had the smarts to know when to stop a war. G.H.W. was roundly criticized for stopping the Gulf War and leaving Saddam in Power but it turns out if was the right move at the time because the U.S. was not prepared to "occupy and rebuild" a country. Do you think G.W. took that into account? I'm not saying Saddam didn't need to go but G.H.W. Bush had an understanding of international affairs and surrounded himself with people who did as well. G.W. lacks all of that and more.

Thank god he only has less than a year to further screw up the country and the world.

Anonymous:

Carter weakened our military so badly that he couldn't find 6 helicopters that could complete a rescue mission for his hostages. We were a laughing stock while he was President. Thank goodness he only served one term before losing to Reagan in a landslide.

Rick:

Mike, you wrote:
At least President Carter served our country in WWII and has done more than any other President ever to help his fellow man after leaving office

Don't be in such a hurry to make your points that you make up stuff. Carter graduated from the Naval Academy in 1946.

And, to this day he still doesn't know how to deal with terrorists.

Mike:

First, it's not wise to make an assumption on who I would be voting for this November and for whom I have voted in the past. Unless you are me you have no idea who I will vote for and, I wouldn't tell you anyway.

Believing I am either a Republican or a Democrat would be wrong, too.

I am neither.

Read my previous post thoroughly next time before making any assumptions about my political persuasions.

As I implied, I dislike Left-wing Liberals and Right Wing Conservatives. The extremists on both sides are what's hurting this country more than anything.

Second, I do not vote for someone based solely on the fact they served in the military.

If I were "dumb" enough to use that as a sole criteria I need to have my voter card taken just as much as those who vote solely on the fact they think the 2nd Amendment will be repealed and they might lose their right to bear arms. It takes a 2/3rds majority to change an amendment and when is the last time we had a 2/3rds of either party? Probably in the 1930's when FDR was President I am sure.

Furthermore, I would never use a persons former military status (or current status) as a means of judging their leadership ability or credibility and neither should anyone else.

Honesty and a candidates past history count more in my book, not to mention not being a hypocrite like the leader of our current administration and the many who support it.

Again, and if I voted solely for someone because they are a veteran than I would have voted for Oliver North during his run for the Senate in Virginia about a decade ago.

If you recall one of North's campaign slogans was "Veterans For North".

Well, this veteran didn't vote for a convicted liar who was pardoned by a President who committed illegal acts (Iran/Contra ring a bell?). I did not vote for Oliver North based on his lying to cover up laws he broke. I know as a veteran you do not have to follow illegal orders. Saying you did it because you were commanded to due it BS if that were his reasoning.

As for McCain. I am very disappointed in him not coming out and crucifying Bush for the way he was treated by the Bush campaign in 2000 and for maintaining the "Due Course" attitude in the Republican party.

There is a thing called honesty, integrity and respect, something lacking in politics, politicians and their handlers.

artistkvip:

of coarse the president of the united states should speak honestly and truthfully and it is completely possible if they used the simple words. i do not know.. of coarse if they use this frequently the american people wold rightfully know the the president does not know enough to actually be in his job. people like donald rumsfeld who i guess thought himself clever by stringnging enough conditionals and prerequetes or modifier to every statement he made under oath in hearings as to make his words gibberish and nonspeak or nonsense or possibly senile, he may have thought himself cleaver for not actually telling a lie.... well that may well be true but the purpose of elected and high appointed people is not to ... not lie but to be accountable for thier decisiions..to make thoughtful and well researched decisions and to be able to explain what they were thinking about and the steps they tried to fix thier failed policies and every one ..will have failures... that is not the question it is how you deal with them and correct them that define a human being. to answer the questions and if they cant accomplish even simple things with thier insane obsevive compulsive mentall illnes way of trying to protech oneself in every nuance of an argument or the more likely the clear eyed obstruction of information due to the people they serve...in either case the person who cannot do thier job should not have it. there is also the true statement a leader can use that this is an area where i cannot at this time discuss but it in a free society should come with a projected timetable of when the public can come back to the video tape and continue the comversation. the problem with liars is they lie... the more they lie the more they rely on lies... and when the rest of the human race sees there are obvious lies with no accounting the obvious question is ..where does the lie end ..how do people who honestly want to help help when they dont know the basic things that need to be done.. or even where does the lie start... it is elementary logic 101 PEOPLOE WHO LIE SHOULD NEVER BE PUT IN POSITIONS OF RESPOSIBILITY OR POWER....how in the world could anyone expect acocountability resposibility or even good judgement from someone who cannot face reality as it is....which is a simple way of sayint the truth.. logic and leadership and spiritual growth folow the same fundamental path... to grow and solve problems the problems must be seen so they can be corrected anyone who trys to impede this simple truth becomes the first matter to be dealt with in the process of progress whetther that be spiritually , business, social, or societal....butt please check 4 truth i am after all just a dyslexic artist not a genius like donald rimsfeld and karl marx rove or dick cheny.

Michael O.:

Oh yes, Mike, I almost forgot about Lt. Cmdr. Richard M. Nixon who had served in the South Pacific during WWII. Must have been one of our best presidents ever.

Michael O.:

Three cheers to Mike who judges presidents by whether or not they served in the military.

Yes, presidents who have sent people to fight even though they had never served themselves, for instance Lincoln and Roosevelt, are despicable human beings, and the best ones we've had are those who did serve, like Eisenhower. And, of course, you can always count on a democratic president who had been a soldier not to get us into a pointless war. Like Kennedy, for instance. Because they know that war is bad and peace is good.

Well at least we know who is Mike going to vote for in November: Naturally, for the candidate who served in the military, and against the one who did not. That's one more vote for McCain.


Buhler:

Nixon speechwriter Ben Stein is the commercial spokesman for G_d and Clear Eyes. Ben Stein: Nixon's pervy product pitchman. BOHICA

Phillip C. Smith, Ph.D.:

I admire Jimmy Carter for the humanitarian that he is. He put his actions where his words are as to his participation in humanitarian projects. His sense of integrity should be admired.

As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I have watched his reaction to our Church. He seems fair to us although we do appear to differ on some aspects related to the primordial importance of traditional marriage and the need to redirect human sexuality activities toward a greater adherence to God's enlightened and inspired law of chastity.

I hope that calm, thoughtful conversations can be carried out with respectful people on which moral stances will most likely benefit the United States in the future.

Phillip C. Smith, Ph.D.

B-man:

Mike,

Great post. Finally, an intelligent, fact-based, coherent analysis of this topic and people's reaction to it. Wish we had more posters like you. Thanks. - B-man


Mr.Carter is recognized all over the world as an extraordinary good man. Unfortunately, the American society were not prepared to have such a man as president. He is a man in one million!

Sam Booher:

thank you Mr President

Sam Booher:

thank you Mr President

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

Mike,

You stated, "As the old saying goes, the last ones to want to go to war are those in the military because they know what it's like. Perhaps that is why Kerry, Gore and Carter are so opposed to war, because they have been there."

From my experience in the military and never having served in a war zone, yet it was the time of the Vietnam War, you are speaking correctly. I heard it over and over again from senior officers. The one prayer is that we do not have to go to war. Our force is specifically designed to be a mighty deterent to anyone attacking us and is used in defense only. War is a terrible thing. We know that there will be times when there are no reasonable options, similar to those that we were presented with that got us involved in WW II (the attack on Pearl harbor really started the ball rolling). However, this pre-emptive war stuff is a slippery slop to disaster. I could point to the end-times prophesies in the Bible and mention that nothing like the U.S.A. is mentioned as a global power. Bush is making sure that the prophesies come true during his presidency. Our military might is dying in the hot deserts of Iraq. The strategy for winning in Afghanistan is nonexistent. (We have not benefitted from the experiences of the Soviet Union in their fight with Afghanistan.) What is happening to us is that we are beginning to believe that human life is expendible. Remember the nation morning fewer than 10 deaths on the space shuttle? Now, death is nothing, unless you are an antiabortionist. Then you get all lathered up about killing the unborn while you do not mind the slaughter of innocent thousands in a mindless war.
Mike, I commend you on your post.

Mike:

Jimmy Carter in no way shape or form started the U.S. troubles with IRAN or in the middle east. That goes back to support the U.S. had of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi starting in the 1950's and, especially when Dwight D. Eisenhower was President. Also, to think our economic issues under Carter were solely his fault is naive at best. The U.S. economy was already faltering long before he took office as was already pointed out.

Was Carter our greatest President?

Hardly.

Was Carter the most honest?

Probably, but we can only measure him against those Presidents who have told many obvious lies about U.S. Policy and U.S. Intentions and that list is filled with more than we would like to accept as Americans. Clinton's lies were about his personal life and did not result in anyone's death. Bush's lies have resulted in the deaths of over 4000 American soldiers and countless 10's of thousands of Iraqis if not hundreds of thousands.

I've only been voting since 1981 but in my lifetime and with a strong understanding of U.S. history G.W. Bush is the most dishonest President we have ever had and to think how many of our soldiers he has killed or maimed for life. Not to mention fighting a war based on lie after lie.

I'm not a liberal dingbat who thinks we can negotiate with madmen, but I'm also not a conservative hate monger with my head in the sand stuck in 1845.

I've served my country in the military and in law enforcement. So have well over 20 members of my family and in all U.S. wars over the last 60+ years.

Can you say the same about our current President and his staff and supporters?

At least President Carter served our country in WWII and has done more than any other President ever to help his fellow man after leaving office.

We can't say the same for G.W. Bush who deserted his unit and got a "Daddy is a Powerful Bigwig" pass when he left to work on a senatorial campaign. We don't even want to hear about those lying "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" who told tons of lies about Senator Kerry who also served his country and went to Vietnam. Furthermore, Kerry never deserted his unit because he comes from a wealthy family.

Did Al Gore desert his unit in Vietnam or ask for special treatment even though his Dad was a serving Senator at the time?

No!

It's ironic how many democrats have served honorably in the military and in war and are always branded as soft on defending our country or supporting the military.

What's even funnier is how easy it is for conservatives like Bush, Cheney, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and countless others who have either gotten draft deferments or found other excuses to not serve, yet are quickly given a pass by those who have served. Those same deserted and dodgers are also and always eager to send our boys (and now girls) to war quickly.

As the old saying goes, the last ones to want to go to war are those in the military because they know what it's like. Perhaps that is why Kerry, Gore and Carter are so opposed to war, because they have been there.

Unlike Bush.

Would you get a pass if you deserted your unit? I know none of my family would.

So Carter's economic record isn't so great from when he was President. How did you spend your "second" Tax rebate from Bush in 2008?

Paying bills? I spent mine the same way I spent the one back in 2001, on bills.

Has been that long that our economy has struggled under Bush.

Wow..eight years.

Perhaps you spent yours filling your gas tank and making G.W. Bush's rich oil contributors wealthier? Perhaps you spent your rebate by sending it to the mortgage bankers to help keep them at bay under one of the worst mortgage collapses in U.S. history which is occurring under Bush. I don't think that kind of collapse happened in the high interest rate period under Carter did it?

Perhaps it was Clinton's fault?

Clinton, after all, did have sex with that intern while our economy had a balanced budget for nearly eight years which happened at the same time we had some of the biggest growth spurts in U.S. history.

Oh wait..the sex part is more important than the fact that Clinton has an education based on merit and didn't get into Georgetown or earn his Rhodes Scholarship because he is a legacy. Whereas Bush, he got into Yale on an automatic ticket because Daddy went to Yale and that gave his son an automatic bid. How nice for Bush to have that Silver Spoon in his mouth when he said during his campaign he's like the ordinary man. Yeah he is..like the ordinary idiots who voted for him who are dumb enough to not do their home work because it isn't cool. Once again, under Clinton, sex with the intern was more important than how he managed the country into one of the strongest periods of economic growth, or how well Clinton understood international policy and diplomacy. However, Clinton got that draft deferment (just like Cheney and Limbaugh) so he's a bad bad boy isn't he?

Oh darn, I almost forgot..Clinton also didn't inhale that marywanna "in college" when most you also probably tried all kinds of stupid and sometimes illegal substances and activities.

How could I forget that?

That inhaling fact is far more important than the fact that Bush go arrested from drunk driving in the mid 1970's...after he deserted his National Guard unit, after college when he should have been a responsible adult and husband.

I used to get emails from G.W. Bush defenders all the time and now they are all silent because they know he is a morally corrupt liar who ran our country into the ground. Very much like he did with the state of Texas' economy when he was Governor, and much like he did the company he founded and ran into bankruptcy before he became Governor of Texas. With his company, Bush showed his lack of managerial skills, however; he did show his ability to survive when he sold his shares and made several hundred thousand dollars on a company that was bankrupt. You say it was only several hundred thousand dollars? Well, Hillary made an even smaller amount on one of her investments before Clinton was in office and it was a big deal when Bubba was in office. The difference being is that Bush committed fraud and got away with because he got another "Daddy Pass" because Daddy was President at the time and Daddy fired those who could investigate him at the Securities and Exchange Commission.

I look forward to reading the smarmy comments from the anonymous posters in this forum who will say that the above facts are lies. Well, go do your home work and prove me wrong before you spout off and say they are lies. The Bush defenders who ignore his long and continuous history of dishonesty, ignorance, and inability to manage our country and economy will be the ones who have to live with themselves knowing they twice voted him into office. I can rest easily knowing I didn't vote him into office. I was disgusted by the way he treated a former prisoner of war veteran, Sen. McCain in Presidental race in 2000. It was completely disgusting how Karl Rove made up lies about McCain and his wife and Bush perpetuated them.

Instead of being known for the no child left behind act (which is also failing), Bush will be remembered for no lie left untold and no citizen left bankrupt and no soldier left killed or maimed.

Well..we can rest assured at least the CEO's of the oil companies got wealthier over the last eight years. So, not all Americans are bankrupt, only the economy, middle class and below.

irae:

Aw, c'mon! Lawyers make fine Presidents. Personally, I like having a POTUS who understands the nuances of the Constitution and has intimate knowledge of the law. What?


Oh, nevermind...

Nickeltoes:

B-MAN You can stay here as long as you wish.

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

Carter's book entitled "Israel: Peace, not Apartheid" presented a lot of factual information about that region. Neither I nor, I am reasonably sure, the one complaining about the lies in this book have independently researched the details contained within the book. However, Carter has lived a lot of the information in this book. He has traveled extensively in that region as well. So, much of his writing is based on first-hand knowledge. Unfortunately, to maintain certain talking points, our politicians give us only bits and pieces of the information that an informed citizenry need to make informed decisions. President Carter has acquited himself very well when questioned about some of the strongest statements that he made in his book. However, people today prefer to pick on single words or phrases, rather than to read the entire manuscript. I read the book from cover to cover. With my own previous knowledge about the events in his book, I did not find much to criticize him for. Afterall, he is entitled to his own opinions and his own interpretations of the facts.

As an aside, the right-wing religious nuts want me to believe that their interpretation of the Bible is equal to God's word as recorded in the Bible. There is a reason that I have my own copy of the Bible. With the advent of the printing press, a growing body of literate people could read for themselves. Many discovered that the Bible did not say many of the things that they were told. I feel sorry for those of you who depend on Rish Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and others for your facts and interpretation of the facts. Personally, I prefer to just listen to the speech, read the book, and so forth without the inane commentary that follows where some people try to convince me that I did not hear what I just heard. Also, body language, tonal inflections, and the like are missing from a transcript. Some commentators put their own emphasis on certain words that were never intended by the author or speaker at the time.

joe michael:

You always have been my example as to what character a president should have,May God Bless you with long life so you could always speak up for truth around the world.News media sure don't give us a true picture,Thanks to you kind sir, May God Bless you always.

joe michael:

You always have been my example as to what character a president should have,May God Bless you with long life so you could always speak up for truth around the world.News media sure don't give us a true picture,Thanks to you kind sir, May God Bless you always.

joe michael:

You always have been my example as to what character a president should have,May God Bless you with long life so you could always speak up for truth around the world.News media sure don't give us a true picture,Thanks to you kind sir, May God Bless you always.

Lyle Pirnie:

There is a difference between lying and giving a truthful statement when it can be damaging. Nobody argues that what President Carter says, he believes to be true. However, he does great damage to US positions on world issues when he involves himself in issues that he shouldn't. A recent example is his meetings with Hamas. Most of the world condemns Hamas as a terrorist organization that should be delat with in a hands off manner. Whether of not president Carter expressed truthful beliefs with Hams leaders in his meetings with them is besides the point: he shouldn't have met with them at all.

Ironic:

The beauty of democracy lies within the poeple's sense of reason, but when one man gets up and spews forth lies concerning a whole people, he forfeits the right to call out anyone on falsehoods. People's reason can be tainted, and especially someone of Former President Carter's stature should realize that personal biases cannot be broadcasted to the public. A famous philosopher once stated that the masses are stupid, and blunt as it may seem, it holds truth.
When Former President Carter decided to publicize his anti-semitic views by way of full-blown lies, he did it knowing that the "masses" would soak it up. He undercut the democratic system to sway the minds of innocent citizens.

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

I almost feel humiliated writing this post since one of our astute bloggers has stated that there is nothing of value on this ledger. For those who now have context and fail to use it to revise their ill-informed remarks about Carter's responsibilities for some of the problems in the late 1970's, let me give a few examples.

The high interest rates -
We now know, if we never really knew before, that the Federal Reserve Board controls these. We also know that this control has remained with Republican sympathizers for a long time. Look at the prime rate of 2 percent now. Based on the economics theory that was in play when Carter was President, when government and citizens are trying to borrow vast amounts of money from the same funds, the interest rates go up. Today, we must have found the money tree because huge amounts of money are being borrowed each week by the government and citizens and the interest rates seem to go lower. At least during the Carter years, I was encouraged to save some money because it paid to save. Look at what your savings are earning you today.

The hostages -
As a few who remember have pointed out, President Carter was not responsible for the hostage taking in Iran. However, not one hostage was killed. A few years later in Reagan's time, there was a big terrorist bombing of the infamous marine barracks in Beirut with over 200 American military men killed and no response from us other than to start building barracades around the White House, embassies, and so forth. Those Jersey barriers that you see now were a direct result of the bombing in Beirut (in Lebanon, for those who have never heard of Beirut).

The gas lines actually started with the 1973 oil crisis. Carter entered the White House in January 1977 and inherited a lot of problems. Before you start blaming everything on Carter, start doing a little research and dig up a few facts. The big problem with the gas lines was the oil embargo and other problems caused by OPEC. Obviously, we still have not learned much about being dependent on foreign oil. I remember well the gas lines and the prices, which seem very tame when compared to today's gas prices. However, those of us who were able to make adjustments, did. Those like some in this blogospere prefer to compain and do nothing.

Under Nixon, the wage freezes.
Yes, something very un-American happened under Nixon. We had periods of wage freezes.

Yes, I have cherry-picked some incidents throughout recent history to make my case. I do believe that those who do not dig a little and find substantive context for their narrow arguments are living in their very narrowly defined worlds and are slaves to a political party line. Yes, a number of slaves have blogged on this site. You can recognize them. They are generally not very happy. Maybe one day these slaves (usually captives of the nonthinking ultra right wing)will be able to free themselves from their own myopias and see what democracy is all about.

T N R Rogers:

Whether or not Mr Carter was one of our greatest presidents, he strikes me as one of our most admirable human beings. His life since leaving the presidency has shone with humaneness and wisdom.

Ironic:

I full-heartedly agree that presidents should not lie. It seems almost needless for such a statement to be agreed upon by hundreds of US citizens, but what I am confused about is who the author was.
I recall a book by former President Carter entitled "Israel: Peace, not Apartheid" calling for Israel to halt its regime of tyranny over the impoverished Palestinian people. This book, however, was proven to hold more lies than truths, and conlcuded with a sense of anti-semitism against a sovereign Jewish state that has time and time again battled militant Islamic groups for the mere right to say "We are a country".
My quesiton is this; What is our world coming to when the author of this horrific book hints at falsehoods established by others when he himself has facilitated a major shift in trendy anti-semitism through lies and deciet?!How ironic.

Aaron:

President Carter,

America is so much better since you left office. Thank you for not being reelected.

Ironic:

I full-heartedly agree that presidents should not lie. It seems almost needless for such a statement to be agreed upon by hundreds of US citizens, but what I am confused about is who the author was.
I recall a book by former President Carter entitled "Israel: Peace, not Apartheid" calling for Israel to halt its regime of tyranny over the impoverished Palestinian people. This book, however, was proven to hold more lies than truths, and conlcuded with a sense of anti-semitism against a sovereign Jewish state that has time and time again battled militant Islamic groups for the mere right to say "We are a country".
My quesiton is this; What is our world coming to when the author of this horrific book hints at falsehoods established by others when he himself has facilitated a major shift in trendy anti-semitism through lies and deciet?!How ironic.

Ironic:

I full-heartedly agree that presidents should not lie. It seems almost needless for such a statement to be agreed upon by hundreds of US citizens, but what I am confused about is who the author was.
I recall a book by former President Carter entitled "Israel: Peace, not Apartheid" calling for Israel to halt its regime of tyranny over the impoverished Palestinian people. This book, however, was proven to hold more lies than truths, and conlcuded with a sense of anti-semitism against a sovereign Jewish state that has time and time again battled militant Islamic groups for the mere right to say "We are a country".
My quesiton is this; What is our world coming to when the author of this horrific book hints at falsehoods established by others when he himself has facilitated a major shift in trendy anti-semitism through lies and deciet?! How ironic.

Anonymous:

Hint Hint

Michael O.:

B-Man:

You say:

"You're entitled to your opinion, but there is no anti-American conspiracy in awarding a Nobel Prize for "decades of untiring effort".

You're confusing conspiracy with preference. I never said it was a conspiracy, I said it was a preference. There are plenty of deserving people out there with decades of untiring efforts. Very few of them receive the prize, and the selection in recent years has been tilted towards those who also have some anti-American "credentias", in addition to their "decades of untiring etc. etc."

I forgot to add another one to my list: The lady who is planting trees in Africa and who won the Peace prize in 2006 claims AIDS has been invented by "The West" in order to decimate the population of Africa:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1216687.htm

By these criteria, Reverend Wright can be a candidate for the Nobel Peace prize as well. And needless to say, he too has "decades of untiring effort" behind him.

True, I was not present in the discussions of the committee, neither were you. So if one of the members says "this was a consideration" and another one says "no it was not", that means one of them is lying. You are free to choose whom to believe, and so am I. So far I have shown evidence to support my choice. What you have shown is plenty of hot air and ad hominem invective, and little else.

Immanuel Cant:

I became a Christian at around the time that Jimmy Carter was President.

I believed in him.

I still do.

bruce:

His epithet will be "He was a good man". I wish all presidents had the moral qualities and vision of President Carter.

bruce:

His epithet will be "He was a good man". I wish all presidents had the moral qualities and vision of President Carter.

bruce:

His epithet will be "He was a good man". I wish all presidents had the moral qualities and vision of President Carter.

bruce:

His epithet will be "He was a good man". I wish all presidents had the moral qualities and vision of President Carter.

M'fugo:

Per American Presidential lies...

Well, DUH...

Abimbola Oyesanya:

Of course the whole world knows Presidents lies especially this current American President; George Bush. See where he has put U.S. now. Exposing their white ass lies around the world.

There are have been lies in U. S. history but it will always be covered by the establishment and the press as long as it is in American interest; centuries of murders; invasions; genocides and slavery in the name of advancing democrazy and free enterprise.

And so the truth been told by a black pastor Rev. Wright about American crimes based on lies and greed by their past Presidents is been ignored now as usual by the establishment; press and also by a black man named Barrack Obama because he wanted to rule whiteman's land.

Abimbola Oyesanya:

Of course the whole world knows Presidents lies especially this current American President; George Bush. See where he has put U.S. now. Exposing their white ass lies around the world.

There are have been lies in U. S. history but it will always be covered by the establishment and the press as long as it is in American interest; centuries of murders; invasions; genocides and slavery in the name of advancing democrazy and free enterprise.

And so the truth been told by a black pastor Rev. Wright about American crimes based on lies and greed by their past Presidents is been ignored now as usual by the establishment; press and also by a black man named Barrack Obama because he wanted to rule whiteman's land.

Abimbola Oyesanya:

Of course the whole world knows Presidents lies especially this current American President; George Bush. See where he has put U.S. now. Exposing their white ass lies around the world.

There are have been lies in U. S. history but it will always be covered by the establishment and the press as long as it is in American interest; centuries of murders; invasions; genocides and slavery in the name of advancing democrazy and free enterprise.

And so the truth been told by a black pastor Rev. Wright about American crimes based on lies and greed by their past Presidents is been ignored now as usual by the establishment; press and also by a black man named Barrack Obama because he wanted to rule whiteman's land.

Joy Broadhurst:

He is correct--one lie let's us know there are many more, i.e. Hillary Clinton

Joy Broadhurst:

He is correct--one lie let's us know there are many more, i.e. Hillary Clinton

Anonymous:

mr. carter: your book palestine Peace or Apartheid
is fool of lies

Tom:

In perusing these comments, and following President Carter's advice, I have to honestly say that there is almost nothing of value in the words of 324 posts. Is there an actual reason for having a comments capability? It is primarily a reminder of how misinformed, ignorant or illiterate people are. Please, Post, discontinue this "feature."

Michael D. Houst:

Jimmy Carter was probably the weakest president we've had for the past 100 years. He was also one of the more honest. (Most honest would have to go to Gerald Ford.) However, he was not as bad as many other presidents, such as Andrew Johnson, and he certainly was nowhere near as bad as George W. Bush is.

Michael D. Houst:

Jimmy Carter was probably the weakest president we've had for the past 100 years. He was also one of the more honest. (Most honest would have to go to Gerald Ford.) However, he was not as bad as many other presidents, such as Andrew Johnson, and he certainly was nowhere near as bad as George W. Bush is.

Milton Forman:

You rejected my comment because you claim I made too many recently. I have not made any comments within at least the past year.
Milton Forman

Milton Forman:

Few have ever Questioned President Carter's veracity. Nevertherless, his point of view and his competence are certainly appripriate subjects for discussion.

Milton Forman

micael hudgins:

When I was growing up my parents gave me three rules to live by. The first was don't ever tell a lie, even a small one. the next two were don't take anything that doesn't belong to you, and never give up on anything you start. President Carter is right again. President carter is going to be remembered as the greatest living American citizen of the twenty first century. He already is for me.

Al:

The only reasonable and correct description of Carter would be - the worst president of the 20th century, liar and terror appeaser cowardly certifying every dictator's and terrorist's "elections", bigot, vengeful to everyone who did not support his reelection.......

Anonymous:

Oh come on. Jimmy Carter is arguably the worst President we have ever had. Truth was something he knew nothing about.

Al:

The only reasonable and correct description of Carter would be - the worst president of the 20th century, liar and terror appeaser cowardly certifying every dictator's and terrorist's "elections", bigot, vengeful to everyone who did not support his reelection.......

Thomas:

There you go again.

David R. Beck:

Funny how he cites Nixon yet fails to mention the most glaring example of a "small lie can result in political catastrophe," namely "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI:

It is an almost universal belief that the word "POLITICS " is a synonym of " DISHONESTY " .
As a foreign observer I am not in a position to assess president Carter's performance as regards American internal issues. However, I can affirm
that he was capable of defending US interests without losing his integrity as human being.
History will undoubtedly regard as monumental his role in achieving the Camp David peace agreement
between Egypt and Israel. Were it not for the Israeli invasion of Lebanon few years after this agreement and the atrocities committed in the suburbs of Beirut , as well as the savage and revengeful Israeli attitude towards the Palestinians , the entire Middle East would now be enjoying peace , democracy and prosperity , and this planet of ours could be rightfully called the GOOD EARTH.

Tom A.:

Gas lines, double digit interest rates and unemployment, stagflation, the collapse of
American power, and today he hangs out with Hamas. What a quack!

Fred McEwan:

If truth telling is a critical and vital responsibility of an elected official, why don't we add the oath of a witness in judicial proceedings to the oath of office, with similar consequences for violating such an oath - perjury - an impeachable offense?

" I promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

He and she already have their hand on the bible (or other sacred text).

FM, Westhampton, NY

dyinglikeflies:

Another offensive lecture from Mr. Carter, who has been lying to himself for so many years that explaining the truth to him is like explaining the color red to a person born blind. This man is a combination of intelligence and horrible ignorance, with a laser-like self-centeredness and vanity that makes Nixon look like Mother Theresa.

Steppy:

Prez Carter you will always hold a special place in my heart and mind. You were a good prez despite all of that crap repubs say about you. It's amazing to me how they prop Reagon up like he was some sort of God and put you down as if your were a pauper when it should have been the opposite. Thank God we have had the opportunity to have your honorable insights, direction and moral fortitude.

Hans B:

The truth takes courage and Mr Carter has it. You can agree or disagree with his viewpoints but only someone who confuses courage with swagger can deny that Mr Carter is a brave man.

Jimmy Carter had his own problems in regard to governing (like allowing the Iran hostage crisis to consume all his time & energy,) but at least he was honest & just & generally speaking tried to project that into his style of governing.

For sure, Carter was the last decent, just, & honest President of the Republic. He was & is, a good man.

lwps:

At least people had jobs during the Carter years, unlike the subsequent Reagan years. I am tired of hearing this lie -- how terrible it was during the Carter years. Reagan had better public relations, that is all.

And, by the way, Hamas targets only military, and thus, are not terrorists. That is another oft repeated lie.

PABOBR:

If I am not wrong the Iranian revolution was started by the Eisenhower CIA when we helped the Shah overthrow an elected government in 1953.That is when the ayoatola went into exile and promised to return when the time was ripe.Get out your books and read all about it before you blame Carter for any of it.Also remember the coincidental release of the hostages hapening on the day that god(whoops)I mean Reagan was sworn in.

Calvin Arnason:

Embarrassing as this is, to have to be reminded of the virtue of honesty, one wonders what earlier Presidents would feel necessary to state for our Bush League leaders of today.

Independent11:

Stan,
If Obama wins he'll be the first that hasn't accepted Lobbyist and PAC money. That, in itself, separates him from all others.

And before anyone says "he accepts it from individuals who work here or there .." - well, yeah, everyone works somewhere. But when individuals spend money up to a capped limit, they are unable to get favors in the way a Lobbyist or PAC can. They are one of millions of individuals who've contributed to his campaign.

So he is the first to be beholden to the electorate, and not completely under the control of special interest groups.

Yes, it's very hard to get things changed in Washington. But, if your President is a compulsive liar (sociopathic about it), then that is likely a person who will say or do anything to get elected. And so, is goes without saying, they are likely saying one thing to the voters and another to the special interest groups who line their political coffers.

karela:

Jimmy Carter has always been a truly good human being. Since he left office, he has used his influence to help many thousands of people. He has inspired people all around the world to stand up and work to help others. He has always been and continues to be an inspiration to me and to many others. Thanks Jimmy for living the life that answers the question, What would Jesus do?

Bill H:

The Carter Years were the worst times for America in my lifetime. What a drag they were. Carter never lied but he got thrown out of office just the same.

Bill H:

The Carter Years were the worst times for America in my lifetime. What a drag they were. Carter never lied but he got thrown out of office just the same.

Anonymous:

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clazy:

The lies a president tells himself are the ones we should fear most. I'd put Carter's self-righteousness into that category.

John Evans Jr.:

Is the same man who supported the Clintons?

Oooopsa:

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MaryJB:

So Mr. Frank Burns doesn't think Arafat was so bad, and that he is as much a hero as when the US dropped the bomb during WWII. Mr. Burns obviously does not know the history of the Middle East very well, especially as magnified by his comment that Israel "stole" land. This type of of ignorance about Israel, the Middle East, and how the "Palestinians" got their name is wide-spread and unfortunate.

james - Los Angeles:

Janis,
Taking money from a citizen who happens to work for a firm and contributes within the establish legal framework does not make Obama a liar. If an oil executive buys into Obama's message and wants to contribute up to the $2300 permitted. You can do the same and no undue influence occurs. If you want to find political figures ling they're all around there is no need to disparately seek them out. Obama just does not appear to be one of them.

B-man:

ED,

Do some research. Carter publicly criticized Bill Clinton before and during Clinton's presidency.

Your post is typical of the ranting insubstantiative, juvenile name-calling of most right-wing posters on this board. I can't find a single "fact" in your post to hang my hat on, just an angry man's ranting of a subject he knows little about.

AgentG:

Bravo, President Carter. The nation misses you more than you can imagine.

Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:

Iraq 101

The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, 4056 US troops dead and 83,521 – 91,094 Iraqi civilians dead from iraqbodycount.org/ ...

Anonymous:

B-Gone?

B-Man?

Stan:

Independent11:
Maybe people don't have the capacity for self-government and the 'they' out there just let the people think they are governing themselves!!!

Somebody is pulling strings for Obama for sure.

If someone tells others that he is an outsider and is going to change the government big time is he knowingly lying, an ego maniac, or both? They are certainly a fool if they really think they can change the world without the approval of 'they'.

More than likely 'they' have already figured out how to manage Obama. Surely it is obvious he has been tracked and placed in places since he was born.

The bewildering thing is how supposedly intelligent people can be so manipulated.

Ed:

When this item was posted little did I know that it would become a bulletin board on the presidency of Jimmah. How soon some forget the misery index and the days held hostage.

While economic arguments go all over the map and conveniently start the clock appropriate for the poster's POV, the Iranian hostage situation was entirely homebrewed by the naive boob from Georgia. He is the one who ushered in the Iranian militants and reaped what he sowed.

His naivety is reflected in this piece. Why didn't he speak about the necessity for honesty by a POTUS during the term of Bill Clinton? Then he would have been brave about honesty. Now, he is just pandering. He fails to demonstrate an understanding of lying and mistaken arguments.

B-man:

BGONE,

I'm not sure what you mean had Carter not started "it", so I can't rally comment on the logic of your argument. My understanding is that Bin Laden's main gripes are a) the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, and b) the support by the US of Israel's oppression of the Palestinians.

As I posted far below, had Carter won a second term, his number one priority would have been to continue the work he had brought so close to fruition in actually resolving the "Palestinian" issue. Had he won the second term, and continued this work, it is likely that we would not now have the level of hatred from the Muslim world that we do, and 9/11 would likely never have happened.

With regard to Afghanistan and the Taliban, they came late into the picture and simply offered sanctuary to Bin Laden when he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia. Had it not been the Taliban, Bin Laden would have simply found somewhere else to use as a base of operation to fight against a) and b) above.

frank burns:

What is so bad about Yassir Arafat? That he stood up to the land-grabbing polices of Israel? Or that he associated with people who targeted civilians? On that matter, has the US apologised yet for its own targeting of civilians at Hiroshima? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Arafat is every bit the hero for his people as our fine soldiers flying the Enola Gay are for us. The same goes for Hezbollah -- call them terrorists, and they are, but don't get too uppity about it. It is Israel that is stealing the land. Get them to the table, make the terms, restrain unbridled Zionist territorial expanison, and let's get this world back on track, For goodness' sake.

NM Remote:

Hello,
It seems that most negative comments are from the far right - perhaps those without purpose in life other than to mouths their leaders and to justify wrongness by attempting to assassinate honorable people like Jimmy Carter. What is wrong with this picture? Where do these greedy, self-righteous critics get the nerve to tell others how to remove splinters when they have rail-road ties stuck in their eyes? Do right wingers have no shame? Look at where this administration has lead this country - in biblical terms it is be the desert, the temples are filled with thieves and liars.
Praise Jimmy Carter! Show me one honest man in this administration and I'll eat my keyboard!

jwh:

Your presence in Iraq caused the death of OVER ONE MILLION IRAQIS MAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN. That is what I call a holocaust. With your current PRESIDENT LIAR IN CHIEF you are now sc_um nation number one TOGETHER WITH GREAT BRITAIN.
You better fear the new broom that is about to sweep America in 2009.

BGone:

B-man:, If Carter hadn't started it and Regan continue it Bin Laden would be dead and Afghanistan a religion-less nation under the old USSR. 9-11-2001 would likely not have happened as we can rightfully assume with big Bin shut down. The Muslims were a thorn in the side of the Soviets from the beginning until the bitter end.

Our high tech weapons and tax dollars were used to bring the Taliban to power in Afghanistan. Now we pay the price of righteousness. Religion is not now nor has it ever been the solution to any problem. Religion continues it's 5,000 year run as the most significant problem facing the human race. The best is yet to come. They'll have the bomb soon if not already and just working on the delivery system.

Mother nature has a way of taking care of perverts. Today is mother's day you know. Sell all your earthly possessions and give the money to a preacher who will pass it on to the poor. Save one white sheet. Wrap yourself in it and climb the highest mountain you can. Jesus will be along any minute. If you don't believe me ask Reverend Hagee who gets his information directly from God's word, the Bible.

jwh:

All rise,

The President Of The United States Of Liemerica

Ted J Wordlaw:

President Carter is in an enviable position. He has the inside, (top secret etc) knowlege and exposure to know what really the crisis in the middle east is all about.

None of the current presidential candidates have the true courage to stand up to the cabal of Zionist - Israel lobbyist. To contest them would be political suicide. Carter can't be intimidated because he is not running for political office.

An example of such is here in Chicage a Jewish professor at Depaul University contested the Isralis acts of: "apartheid". He lost his tenureship due to the rising up of the local Jewish groups and no longer is employed at the university.

If one in a postion of credibilty and prominince and the press prints their comments that are not pro-Isralis they are targets to be destroyed. This is the power of the political zionist.

Carter represents a position t
hats needs to heard from. It is not anti anything. It represents a postion of courage and confronts all without fear of political repraisals. There are not many who can afford this political courage.

The world does not know the capacity of the nuclear capacity of Israel which our government has provided for the past decades.. Their military arsenal is the strongest in this region yet we cry for the disarmament of Iran. And the irony is if we give military aid to any other nation in this region Israel cries,demand for more. There's something inconsitent here.

The chickens will come home......

hannah he:

I agree

Marcia Martin:

I'm always amazed at people who, having just witnessed the Bush administration, can still parrot the old saws about how terrible the Carter administration was. President Carter's administration is what the Bushes fantasize about having: an unpopular administration whose decisions are justified by history. He was unpopular because he was truthful, long-sighted, and refused to pander for short-term political gain. Most of us see that now.

Thank you for all your courageous service, sir. I know that you forgive the fools who speak so harshly against you. I hope that they don't cause you any pain.

B-man:

George W. Bush is Osama Bin Laden's best friend. Osama was able to attack him, run away, thumb his nose at him for years, and get him to invade an oil rich Muslim nation that had nothing to do with 9/11, suckering him into an endless war that can never be won.

You can't be a much better friend to Osama Bin Laden than good ol' George W. Bush!

janis:

I have not submitted any comments before so I suspect that you are simply not allowing anyone to comment if that person does not agree with you

Anonymous:

Here's an original thought.

Earl, You and that long post is a fight against the very power of the Internet itself. Your battle is very comparable to that of Former President Carter and American Politics.

May God's righteousness be with you both, even in the face of blind hatred.

Nick Polyak:

Sorry for blogging second time. I thought it was an important comment and I wanted it to be seen that's it.
Concerning the personal insults to other bloggers, I think the so called "progressives" are far ahead of the liberals (like myself) and conservatives.
So far I did not see a single meaningful defense of Carter except for the fact that he is "good", "a former president", "Christian" and is therefore above being spoken truth of.

Janis:

Barack Obama says he does not take money from 'big oil companies" - what he does do is take money from executives of big oil companies - if that is not lying, it is very close to it.

President Nixon at least had the class to leave office rather than being impeached (and he lied about his associates doing something that had been done many times in the past by both parties). Bill Clinton lied, was impeached and refused to leave office -he seemed to think that perjury was okay if it was only about having sex with someone not his wife. I am not sure that I understand why lying about some things is okay if you are in one party and not okay if you are in another. AND I do not understand why lying while under oath is not bad Mr Clinton but lying while not under oath is bad for Mr Nixon.

Aminius:

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

First, in reply to your long post: very impressive indeed. I am in complete agreement. Thank you.

Next, your short post: that unfortunate person with the foul language is well known here. He is like this constantly, and worse, spamming with very, very long nonsensical posts. He has been banned from many of these threads. Apparently, he needs professional help.

Keep those good posts coming.

Arminius

observer:

the president's competence compensates for many things.if president bush lies when he over or underestimates the number of troops in iraq,it is excusable and an essential part of the battle to defeat osama,who is by the way, also destroying the islamic world

Gene Barnes:

Mr. Carter, I think what you say is correct, but please drop the other shoe: What lie, or lies, spoken by a President of the United States are you exercised enough about to make these comments? Without that, we aren't getting the whole picture.

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

Is it my imaginaton? I think that way too many people blog exactly the same blog from time to time. Sorry that these people are so limited in the thought process thatthey cannot blog a second original thought.

Nick Polyak:

Carter was and is pandering to the genocidal apartheid Islamonazi rabble rouses who spend billions of oil money into forming the world's opinion including American academia and press. To do it he sacrifices both decency and truth.

Alice W:

...nor should vice presidents. That lets Hillary out

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

Well, I wonder what piece of depraved human being is blogging now that has to insult a former President with such vulgar language. Obviously, this person has much to learn about being a human being in a civilized world. May God have mercy on your soul. I would imagine that you have no belief in God. I pray for your soul.

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

As the thunderstorms swirl all around my area right now, I am struck with both the good and the bad of blogs and debating. It is very easy to spot the people wearing concrete blocks for heads and those who are reflective and insightful in their thinking and comments. Generally, it is very easy to spot those who take extreme positions. For example, those who say that Pres. Carter was the worst President ever have never considered objectively the current occupant of the White House (at 29 percent approval) nor have they any real knowledge about previous Presidents. The Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh type of venom flows freely from the fangs that they speak through, not knowing that such speech as this is what creates Hilters, Stalins, and the like. The difference between Timothy McVay and the suicide bombers of the Middle East is the difference between wanting to spare one's cowardly, full-of-hate life versus one being willing to die for a cause. Those who kill to stop abortions are just as guilty as those who, in their eyes, perform abortions. It has been my experience that those who spew forth the venom have committed even worse crimes. Look at those who hate alcohol, but are closet drinkers. Look at those who hate gays but search for them on the internet so that they can link up with them in illicit ways. Look at those who hate abortions but will force their own wives to have a backyard abortion to spare the family shame. I could go on and on. Jesus knew exactly what he was doing when he forgave the woman who was caught in the "very act of adultery." What I have also noticed is that there is no sin too grievous that a Republican right-wing nut will not forgive one of his own. There is no sin too minor that a Republican right-wing nut will not broadcast to the ends of the earth if committed by a Democrat. The examples are too numerous to mention here. My prayer for our country is that people of all faiths and political persuasions and return to civil discourse as the great Mr. Jefferson envisioned many years ago. Of course, he expected that the population was best served by being educated to the task. Unfortunately, this blog proves the point that education is a rare commodity because I have read a lot of ignorance here. If one cannot make his point in a civil manner, I suspect that being educated to the facts is a mere inconvenience.

Mr. Carter gave us the path to balanced federal budgets for as far as the eye can see. He reversed a trend set by the Republicans when he launched the zero-based budget process. If the Carter haters are not familiar with this, then they indeed are full of uneducated, hateful speech. Pres. Reagan turned this model on its head. He proceeded to turn the government into a welfare state for corporate interest and for the wealthy. Huge deficits started to pile up. Where Republicans err is that they never saw a budget surplus that they liked. Being fiscal conservatives is not at all what they are about. To save for a rainy day does not sit well with them. Consequently, we are now financing yet another big government giveaway with borrowed money. President Bush said himself that he was determined that to mortgage the future of our children and grandchildren. Right, Mr. Bush. What you have done is esactly this, you have mortgaged the future. Remember, the road to a budget surplus was on the horizon when Bush too over. he launched a war of choice and gave big tax breaks. This genious needs to be retired to Texas.
Mr. Carter may be a Southener (remember, Southerners are not viewed as particularly smart by some segments of our population), but he proved himself in the nuclear submarine force. He did serve his country nobly and with great humility. Check on the credentials of Bush and Cheney. As a former member of the active military of this country, I am saddened when those who opted out of active miilitary service find it expedient to employ our armed forces like they have been deployed in Iraq. Afghanistan is a disaster, also. It is hard to dribble one ball, much less two. President Clinton used our military in a very thoughtful manner primarily because he understood the basic principle of military usage. Even though many military big whigs did not like or respect Clinton, they still lived to see another day.

frank burns:

People who don't like Carter are certainly depraved.

Anonymous:

I consider President Carter to be the finest and most decent President of my lifetime. He was and is a good Christian man. This is probably why so many Republicans hate him so much, as they stand for many things God despises. Republicans seem to routinely reject Jesus’ teachings. The economy President Carter inherited from the Nixon/Ford administrations were designed for the military industrial complex not for a nation at peace.

The Carter administration helped bring peace to the Middle-East, facilitated the safe return of the hostages and brought hope to under-privileged youths with employment training programs like the Comprehensive Employment and Training Act (CETA). CETA was one of those needed social program that Republicans of that time deemed a “Give-away” and/or “Welfare” program. The Republican uses the prison system as their social program. This draconian approach to problems has always been their mindset. In my humble option, the Republican Agenda of division and greed has been hurting us for nearly 50 years.

Pam:

Amen, President Carter.

Independent11:

By Carter's standards Hillary Clinton couldn't be President. She told more lies than she told truths just trying to be President.

I agree with Carter's sentiments. I find it really strange how Hillary supporters just brush off her lies and always counter "every politician lies".

That doesn't fly with me. If I witnessed Obama lying I'd be done supporting him. If you can't trust your President, then what good are their positions and agendas? How could you ever trust that they'll do anything they say?

I think Americans have become so apathetic and non-participatory in our electoral process of the last 30 years for this very reason. No one believes that politicians will do what they say, so no one believes change is possible.

BUT, if you can trust your candidate/President, then that changes EVERYTHING ....

Arminius:

B-Man,

Good going, keep it up. Apparently Anonymous, and others like him here, are living proof that Neanderthals are still with us.

Arminius

Sarah Banderleigh:

Why on earth would you give that liar a forum to piously preach at the rest of us?

Get a grip, folks. What's next? Will you be asking Osama bin Laden to write about loving thy neighbor?

B-man:

Thank you, Anonymous, for so perfectly illustrating my point!

Anonymous:

jimmy "i make eye contact" carter should never open his mouth and speak in public, he is a fool and when he opens his mouth everyone knows it.

B-man:

This message board is a perfect microcosm of this country. The liberal voices speak with clarity, insight, and with fact-based arguments. The conservative voices throw out unsubstantiated vitriol, juvenile name-calling, and claim to know the motivations of people they've never met. No wonder this country is such a mess after almost eight years of uncontrolled conservative leadership.

Barack Obama will bring sanity and intelligence back to this country and end this long nightmare of idiotic and ineffective conservative rule. Obama in '08!

Mae Rudolph:

And you could put our present leader up there with the biggest prevaricators of all, I think.

esperanza369:

Thank you, President Carter for stating an obvious truth. I the leader of our nation lies, how are we citizens to have faith in our government? Americans believe in truth telling and we use to expect nothing less from our leaders. Today, it seems so many lies have been told, that we have become inured to being lied to; "All politicians lie" is a common response to our outrage when our leaders are lie to us. Moreover, when caught in lies, many leaders ignore our objections. Some even have the shamelessness tomake jokes about their lies

As citizens, it is time we demand the truth from our leaders and certainly past time to expect nothing less from our Presidents.

Thank you also for the good work you continue to do in the effort to bring peace to our struggling planet. My great respect for you as a president is second only to my respect for you as a humanitarian and peace maker. God bless you, Sir.

Earl C, Virginia Beach:

Well, this blog has deteriorated to the un-Christian right wing finding fault with those who tirelessly try to bring about decent dialogue in a world that desperately needs something good. Some blame Obama supporters for statements. Others blame someone else. Always blaming someone else. Granted there are hostile views from across the political spectrum. It is also obvious that there are too many people who have never heard Obama and his message of hope and decency. I do believe that there are too many who do not desire a decent discourse because they are way to eager to castigate their perceived "enemies." President Carter set forth an excellent model for human rights. President Bush has set forth an excellent model for the inhumane. Under Carter, not a single American hostage was killed. Under Bush, you go figure the carnage. Diplomacy takes time and may actually involve talking to "enemies" from time to time. The alternatives do not seem to be working well under Bush. The last time I checked, it seems that God took responsibility for creaating all of us (humankind). We are also commanded to love our enemies. God is the ultimate judge. I stand amazed that people find no charity for the Palestinians when finding no fault with Israel. All to often, Israel follows the eye-for-an-eye model for explaining why it uses bombs to blow up Palistinans who are barely able to find chains and sticks. Oh, I forgot, this is what the Republicans do also. They lash out with a scorched earth attack when a small criticism is lodged at them. If you have failed to notice, Republicans will even manufacture opposition attacks to justify their scorched earth, take-no-prisoners tactics.
Yes, President Carter was a decent man. He finds no evil in talking to other people, especially people who are very different from him. He also understands that oppressed people respond in many ways, many of those ways are not well understood by him. I'll never understand suicide bombers. However, I have been blessed never to have been exposed to radical religious teachings, dire economic hardship and poverty, and so forth. As has been said before, walk in someone else's shoes and make some dramatic discoveries.

Tom Shire:

It is disheartening to read the comments on this thread claiming that Carter is "the worst president ever."

It is a remarkable claim in light of both the disaster currently occupying the White House, and the 30 years of (mainly) Republican energy and tax policies that are now inflicting such a heavy toll on our economy and the environment.

Remember that it was Reagan who reversed Carter's policies of energy conservation and subsidies for alternatives such as wind and solar that would make homeowners less dependent on "big energy."

The right-wing noise machine has deeply damaged our body politic. I pray our country and the world can withstand the assault and recover.

Anonymous:

Compared to GWB, Jimmy Carter is a paragon of virtue, and a justly recognized world leader in the human rights movement as well as his widely recognized work with the poverty-stricken both here and abroad - Habitat for Humanity is a great work that will live on in perpetuity because of Mr. Carter. Even now, his diplomatic work continues.

However, the neocon nightmare still hasn't run it's course, with many of it's most ardent and strident supporters right here on this blog - a hateful bunch that don't hesitate to bash Mr. Carter's monumental achievements.

But will there ever be even one republican ex-president (Honest Abe excepted) that can lay claim to the same level of national and international recognition for either their time spent in office, or most importantly, their contributions beyond their tenure in the Oval Office? I think not - republicans are all blow and no show. Talkin' the talk, but never walkin' the walk.....some things never change.

Tom Shire:

It is disheartening to read the comments on this thread claiming that Carter is "the worst president ever."

It is a remarkable claim in light of both the disaster currently occupying the White House, and the 30 years of (mainly) Republican energy and tax policies that are now inflicting such a heavy toll on our economy and the environment.

The right-wing noise machine has deeply damaged our body politic. I pray our country and the world can withstand the assault and recover.

sk:

Jimmy Carter was perhaps the biggest liar that America ever had for president. He supposedly championed human rights, but in fact he enabled dictators and scoundrels. Among them was Yasser Arafat, for whom he wrote UN documents.

He was not "naive"; he was and is evil. And incompetent, so far as US well being was concerned.

As for "misleading," why the very title of his newest pack of lies and errors is misleading.

Why any newspaper gives him a podium (even a small one) can only be explained by self-hatred.

doctor t:

Hi-
Thanks President Carter for again bringing to mind the overlooked element in public policy, trust. People used to trust and rely on the US and the pronouncements of its leaders. People do not trust them anymore.
Your presidency was a model for how a moral man confronts an amoral world. You turned human rights from a slogan into a weapon for justice. You negotiated a peace where there was only mutual hatred and suspicion before. Your attempts since then to be fair and tell the truth have been vilified by those who cannot bear to hear the consequences of what they have done and supported through fear. Your promotion of peace and reconciliation has done honor to the term statesman.
It is always amazing to me how your rock-solid steadfastness and rationality in the face of extreme provocation that prevented war with Iran is somehow considered a fault (and which even accomplished the objective of getting the hostages out alive). Years of futile elective war should have underlined the wisdom of these actions, yet some frightened people still can not see beyond their fear and loathing.
I wish to also apologize for those filled with hatred that label you an Anti-Semite. Please accept that they are too consumed with hate and fear to think straight. You have truly been a gift, a "mitzvah", to the region and to troubled areas worldwide. The best thing for all parties in the area is to come to a just peace, and that is impossible unless the truth be told.
Many people have forgotten the distortions and lies that deprived the country of four years of your principled leadership. The openly racist "Southern" strategy and saber-rattling helped stymie your efforts to bring the US into an international role of "good neighbor". Globalization has made the transition you attempted to stimulate an imperative, and I hope you continue to push for the maturation of American foreign policy.

Tom Shire:

It is disheartening to read the comments on this thread claiming that Carter is "the worst president ever."

It is a remarkable claim in light of both the disaster currently occupying the White House, and the 30 years of (mainly) Republican energy and tax policies that are now inflicting such a heavy toll on our economy and the environment.

The right-wing noise machine has deeply damaged our body politic. I pray our country and the world can withstand the assault and recover.

LogicalSC:

Mr. Carter, are there no murderous thugs over which you will not fawn and shrill?

Not content in having your actions condemning millions of Iranians to 30 years of hell under the Islamic fanatics of Khomeni, you now work tireless to subject millions of Israelis to another holocaust at the hands of the Hamas savages.

In the name of God will you please just retire to a quiet farm somewhere before more people's lives are destroyed by your naivety and love of totalitarians, from Castro, Kim, Ortega and Chavez?

B. Lloyd:

What a joke -- Carter lied hundreds of times as President -- just like every other politician -- in addition to the hundreds of campaign promises he didn't fulfil.

rmorrow:

Lu Franklin:
Carter - - - The last honest president.

Clinton subject to impeachment for lying about sex.

Bush, deserving of PRISON for CONTINUOUS TREASONOUS LYING, not even subjected to investigation.

Corporations and the GOP = EVIL!

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Wow! What a compelling argument. The facts, the rhetoric, the shouting in caps. It's got it all, including a moronic bumper sticker sign-off.

Sigh. It used to be so much more interesting when all of the liberals weren't idiots.

Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:

Our War on Terror and Aggression:

An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

Contemporary Terror and Aggression-

1) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, 4056 US troops and 83,521 – 91,094 Iraqi civilians


4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people dead and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack left at least 11 dead and wounded 85.


5) Bali-in 2002-202 dead, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.


6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people dead, and 129 people were injured by three bombers.

7) Spain in 2004- 191 people died and 2,050 wounded


8) UK in 2005- The bombings 52 commuters dead and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:


1. Saddam, his sons and major henchmen have been deleted. Saddam's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes.

2. Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

3. Libya has become almost civil. Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “crazies” as they recently threatened Libya. OBL sure is a disgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!!

4. North Korea is still uncivil but is contained. With the opening up of rail traffic between North and South Korea after 50 years and with the assistance of the US Navy in retrieving NK ships and personnel, a fresh sense of civility is afoot. One of the most eminent US cultural institutions, the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, has performed a landmark concert in North Korea.

The concert included music by Western composers and a Korean folk song, and was broadcast live on local television.

Unfortunately, North Korea’s apparent move toward peace did not last long as they fired test missiles recently and also threatened South Korea with military action recently.

5. Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

6. The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords and the Annapolis Peace Conference is at least somewhat successful.

7. Bin Laden has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.

8. Fanatical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghahistan and Pakistan.

9.Timothy McVeigh was executed. Terry Nichols will follow soon.

10. Eric Rudolph is spending three life terms in prison with no parole.

11. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

12. Islamic Sudan, Darfur and Somalia are still terror hot spots.

13. The terror and torture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends.

14. And of course the bloody terror and aggression brought about the Japanese, Nazis and Communists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

Gulliver:

Jimmy Carter is a Racsist and Anti-semite. In the early 1970s, Jimmy Carter campaigned to be the Democratic candidate for governor of Georgia on a pro-segregationist platform. When segregation became unpopular, he disavowed his smear tactics against his progressive opponent.

Then, in the 1976 campaign for president, it became known that Jimmy had for years been an elder in a racist, whites-only church. He said he hadn't known the church didn't allow blacks to worship there, and disavowed his membership. Later in the campaign, speaking to a white neighborhood in Detroit, he demanded that the federal government "respect the ethnic purity of neighborhoods" and refrain from building public housing for poor folks in that bastion of whitenss. Later, he denied the comment.

Jimmy Carter lies through his teeth. His most recent lie is his column stating that presidents should not lie.

Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:

Global warming is complex. Peruse en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming.

Hillary Clinton is not as complicated. Peruse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

Neither is Barak Obama. Peruse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama

Neither is John McCain. Peruse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_John_McCain

Now we can vote!!!!!

Lu Franklin:

Carter - - - The last honest president.

Clinton subject to impeachment for lying about sex.

Bush, deserving of PRISON for CONTINUOUS TREASONOUS LYING, not even subjected to investigation.

Corporations and the GOP = EVIL!

George Myers:

Edit: Former President Carter inherited a lot of problems in foreign policy. When the "hostage crisis" started, we (almost 4000 Grumman employees, think Apollo LEMS on the Moon) had 80 F-14s on the ground in Iran training them for the Shah, which I recall was to be 100 (Newsday). That was a first in US policy and may be the last time its done. The Iranian students in the US, as they were attending our schools, complained to Henry Kissinger no less that the Savak (secret police) was spying on them in the US. He said there was nothing he could do (on TV). I was sitting with the test pilot of the F-14 (think Tom Cruise "Top Gun" Netherlands pilot enlistments went up as the female costar looked like their princess) at a belated birthday with his wife who had been in Iran, and has now a PhD in Anthropology, when the TV announced it would blow up all the F-14s in Iran if the then USSR made a move for the border it shared with Iran. He said the air-to-air missiles in their hands would upset the balance of air power. Well send in the fleet and find out how many US F-14s can shoot down how many Iranian F-14s? I wonder what the neighbors (Iraq, etc.) thought of all this? Then arms for hostages?

- in memoriam to the Israel pilot who died in our burning space shuttle re-entry, whose notes were found. He flew with other Israeli pilots to form an airliner radar signature through international air space to bomb a French-built Iraqi nuclear reactor many years ago thought to have been making nuclear weapons.

fwonschik:

If we make "false statements" to the Feds, that is good for 5 years in prison. Yet, Bush/Cheney lied about bogus Iraqi WMDs and gets 4,000+ Americans killed, 25,000 injured, at an estimated cost of $2.5 Trillion and walks away scott free. Why isn't Bush and his co-conspirators not being tried?

B-man:

Mike,

So you are a mind reader?

Please tell me, how would you know the difference between "a man who is so eager to be relevant that he trots across the globe embracing all manner of dictator" and a statesman who has dedicated his life to service based on his Christian faith?

It is most amusing to see the conservatives on this board assign all manner of motivations to President Carter, of which they truly know nothing. Of course, these are the same people that gave us George W. Bush, the worst president in US history.

George Myers:

Former President Carter inherited a lot of problems in foreign policy. When the "hostage crisis" started, we (almost 4000 Grumman employees, think Apollo LEMS on the Moon) had 80 F-14s on the ground in Iran training them for the Shah, which I recall was to be 100 (Newsday). That was a first in US policy and may be the last time its done. The Iranian students in the US, as they were attending our schools, complained to Henry Kissinger no less that the Savak (secret police) was spying on them in the US. He said there was nothing he could do (on TV). I was sitting with the test pilot of the F-14 (think Tom Cruise "Top Gun" Netherlands pilot enlistments went up as the female costar looked like their princess) at a belated birthday with his wife who had been in Iran, and has now a PhD in Anthropology, when the TV announced it would blow up all the F-14 in Iran if the then USSR made a move for the border it shared with Iran. He said the air-to-air missiles in their hands would upset the balance of air power. Well send in the fleet and find out how many US F-14s can shoot down how many Iranian F-14s? I wonder what the neighbors (Iraq, etc.) thought of all this? Then arms for hostages?

- in memoriam to the Israel pilot who died in our burning space shuttle re-entry, whose notes were found. He flew with other Israeli pilots to form an airliner radar signature through international air space to bomb a French-built Iranian nuclear reactor many years ago thought to have been making nuclear weapons.

mike:

Mr. Carter suffers from a much failed presidency. At best is is a nice man who is so eager to be relevant that he trots across the globe embracing all manner of dictator, whether in North Korea or in Chavez. At worst is seeks to undermine America.

bob:

carter is a lying sack of crap. we are all suppose to think he's awesome for making america give egypt billions upon billions of dollars in aid for "peace." but riddle me this, how many times has syria attacked israel since the last time egypt did? the peace is a weak official declaration of a petty dictator(mubarak) which we bribe. that is no more peace than paying protection money to the mafia.

Don Easley:

We're currently living under the weight of a gigantic lie told by our president. In fact, in the 6th year of our invasion and occupation of Iraq, we've never been told the entire truth about America's mission there.

Sen John McCain spilled the beans - Republicans aren't supposed to mention the words "Iraq" and "oil" in the same sentence - when he recently said a new energy policy will prevent sending troops again to the Mideast over oil. McCain was let off the hook when the press accepted his lame explanation that he didn't mean the U.S. went to war in Iraq in 2003 over oil, his remarks were about the reasons behind the first Gulf War. If you believe that one, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Why is it that we've spent more than a year parsing every sentence that comes out of the mouthes of our presidential candidates, but we've let Mr. Bush get away with not divulging his real mission in the occupation of Iraq? No substantive questions - even after the horrible death, destruction, and displacement of people and infrastructure, and damage to our military, national treasury and international reputation. I'm amazed that he still has 30% support of the American public.

March 19, 2003 is a day that will live in infamy.

B-man:

RMorrow:

A simple statement of the facts on the ground in the occupied territories does not constitute a rant. The situation in the region is complex, and yes the Israeli's are culpable for many of the issues in the area. The Palestinians are not without their share of the blame also. The point is that Carter understands both sides and has a clear idea of what to do to move forward.

The "controversy" over the book that you seem to be alluding to is wholly based on Carter's use of the loaded word Apartheid, which as I stated in my post below is the exact definition of what is going on inside the occupied territories.

You have given much vitriol and zero facts about this subject. Your hatred of President Carter seems to have made you immune to the facts on the ground.

Seth Watkins:

In the early 1970s, Jimmy Carter campaigned to be the Democratic candidate for governor of Georgia on a pro-segregationist platform. When segregation became unpopular, he disavowed his smear tactics against his progressive opponent.

Then, in the 1976 campaign for president, it became known that Jimmy had for years been an elder in a racist, whites-only church. He said he hadn't known the church didn't allow blacks to worship there, and disavowed his membership. Later in the campaign, speaking to a white neighborhood in Detroit, he demanded that the federal government "respect the ethnic purity of neighborhoods" and refrain from building public housing for poor folks in that bastion of whitenss. Later, he denied the comment.

Jimmy Carter lies through his teeth. His most recent lie is his column stating that presidents should not lie.

Stu Wilde:

Of course Presidents and other government officials should never lie to the public. That is a no-brainer and anyone who says otherwise probably has something to hide.

This is the first Administration that openly lied to the People and then had the audacity to not try and hide it. They say it is because of national security or some other guise, but other Administrations have dealt with national disasters and other emergencies.

9/11 seems to have provided this Administration "carte blanche" to do pretty much anything they want: they can torture people; spy on its own citizens; conduct wars without end; suspend civil liberties; make all kinds of secret laws; concoct Presidential signing statements designed to undermine lawmakers; etc.

It is pathetic, criminal and I hope and pray Obama wins so he can immediately start another 9/11 investigation AND an investigation focusing on lies that sent us to war with Iraq.

Minh:

It's hurts so you deleted it ?


http://www.google.pl/search?q=a+nation+of+cowards+with+the+exception+of+a+few&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

On Faith: Guest Voices: Presidents Should Not Be Liars
More dangerous to the nation than a chief executive with a slippery sense of the ..... about that nation: It's a nation of cowards with exception of a few. ...
newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2008/05/presidents_should_not_be_liars/allcomments.html - Similar pages - Note this

mmmisewicz:

Former President Jimmy Carter will not go down in history as one of the great Presidents but more importantly should be remembered as one of the greatest citizens that America has produced.He takes a lot of heat for his egalitarian approach to the problems in the Middle East.But his thinking and contributions which are meant to help ALL parties involved are viewed and commented on negatively mostly because all the money and power rest with the opposite viewpoint.When I think of Jimmy Carter I think of Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King and those who fought against the odds to bring good in the world.

Dr Rick:

If nothing else, Carter's book has shown us that no one may ever criticize Israel or even suggest that some of its polices might wrong without being labeled a terrorist-loving anti-semitic.

rmorrow:

TortFeezer:
You know, its amazing to see how those who so thoroughly condemn carter here are also so incredibly ignorant.

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Hmm. You think Truman was a Republican and you call others ignorant?

TortFeezer:

You know, its amazing to see how those who so thoroughly condemn carter here are also so incredibly ignorant.

1) Carter destroyed the economy.

No, Carter inherited a mess created by Nixon, that Ford had not had time to even attempt to clear up. Forbes Magazine demonstrated very effectively that contrary to the GOP myth, Carter did a great deal- such as in job creation, and providing economic opportunity for all those such as women who had been closed out.

2) No GOP President has actually managed to protect this nation in times of war. How the GOP runs wars we see right now with dubya. all GOP presidents except Truman have been good at starting wars, and ending at best in a stalemate. So much for protecting us. First chance he got, Reagan ran from conflict in the ME.

Carter protected our nation by keeping us out of a war, and forcing that security Liability- Israel- to come to terms with their neighbors and sticking to it.

3) anti-semitism. Last time I checked, arabs are semites as well. far more semtie than most Israelis, who are as a rule are Europeans, not semites. So, sounds to me like Carter was helping Semites and Europeans alike.

Whatever his failings, President Carter does not deserve the continued lambasting he receives, much less from the likes of GOP supporters who give us nothing but losing wars, massive debts,flagging stock markets, and deteriorating domestic infrastructure.

rmorrow:

David G. Ward:
It is a sad commentary on American societal virtues when honesty, integrity and decency are today considered trivial impediments to personal advancement and so-called success! Even more, it is a sad commentary on ourselves.

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Well, who is making such a case? You seem to be working yourself up into a lather and declaring our society morally bankrupt based on a statement that no one has made, let alone become a sentiment shared by a large percentage of our society.

Calm down. It's OK. Despite what he would have you believe, Jimmy Carter is not the last honest man in America.

rmorrow:

B-man:
RMorrow:

Exactly who discredited the book and exactly which parts were "plagiarized"?

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Well, from the rest of your rant, we know who you think is responsible: the Jews, right? Thank goodness that folks like you and Carter are here to defend the innocent Palestinians from ZOG.

Seriously, the book was discredited from many quarters, from the numerous members of his organization who resigned in protest to Democrat Senator Tom Lantos.

On a side note, your China/US analogy is too flawed on too many levels to begin to dissect.

Speaking of lies:

From a long-time associate of Jimmy Carter, a professor of Middle East history, and former member of the Carter Center who resigned to protest the content of Carter's latest book:

"It (the book) contains egregious errors of both commission and omission. To suit his desired ends, he manipulates information, redefines facts, and exaggerates conclusions. Falsehoods, when repeated and backed by the prestige of Carter's credentials, can comprise an erroneous baseline for shaping and reinforcing attitudes and policymaking. Rather than bring peace, they can further fuel hostilities, encourage retrenchment, and hamper peacemaking."

Carter lovers, do you have anything to say about this?

David G. Ward:

It is a sad commentary on American societal virtues when honesty, integrity and decency are today considered trivial impediments to personal advancement and so-called success! Even more, it is a sad commentary on ourselves.

Dennis:

If Semites typically condone smashing of bones of the deceased and flushing them down the toilet, then is it any wonder that there are many anti-Semites?
God is love. Have the Semites abandoned the love of their creator and traded it for hate? I hope that such words of hate are really only used by a few malcontents who do not know the love of God.
I'm with Jimmy Carter and all the other wimps you hatemongers abhore. I hate to disappoint you, but I don't see any walls of Iran being tumbled down from the sound of drums and trumpets. If we can't all learn to live together, we will soon all perish in global conflagration.

BGone:

Mr Carter, as you stated the shining star of your administration is peace between Israel and Egypt. There's many questions that could be asked about why you think that's so important. I'll simply wonder if Palestine is "holy land" in your estimation and, believing you do think that, why?

God is everywhere so any patch of earth must be as Godly as any other, violating none of the physics. Jerusalem cannot be any more important in God's eyes than Jackson can it? You do believe in Devil?

I thought so. As God IS everywhere Devil GOES everywhere. Therefore where Devil happens to be at any moment must be better land in His eyes. Now if you were Devil wouldn't you go to where you get the most attention, are considered to be what Devil wants to be, God?

Jesus was the son of the supernatural being, (giving Moses the shadow of the doubt) in the burning bush. All Christians believe that and you are a Christian? Muhammad had a similar encounter with a supernatural being. Again we must give Muhammad the shadow of the doubt, not a liar. Then there's "homemade" faith, the Mormons founded by a real red blooded American, Joseph Smith who also spoke directly with supernatural being(s).

The three great faiths are all based upon individuals having encounters with supernatural beings. Thus all faith is in the truthfulness of and the ability of these individuals to tell the difference between God and Devil or God's agents and Devil's agents.

There are three possibilities as usual, God, Devil or hoax. Two are bad and one of the bad is devastating. The circumstantial evidence of chaos in the mid east says the worst possible case doesn't it? Hell is pure chaos. Palestine is Devil's Disneyland where the fun chaos never stops? Given all that, where would you locate your fun land if you were Lucifer? Jerusalem is certainly at the center of the chaos isn't it? And you hold your head up high, "I made peace" you say. I won't call you either a liar of stupid but will ask where the peace you made is at.

Did you go to church today and put your money on the plate? It's tax unaccounted, tax deductible and that church real estate is tax exempt. That Lucifer is so clever he has you paying his fee to his agent, that reverend who is leading you to "the house of the father of Jesus." But wait a minute. He also has me and all others paying the taxes not collected on His holy businesses.

Lucifer for president. We need someone who knows how to skin a pilgrim on our side for a change. The country's going to hell anyhow with all the sicklies in the white house so why not do like those big shot ministers and cash in on it? Of course there is the high price of jet fuel so we may have to do without our Lear Jets. What does the pope-mobile burn anyhow, lost souls?

Anonymous:

Good for Cater to point out what should be self-evident: Lying in public, to the public or even for the public is wrong. That is where I draw the line in my vote.
When Bush XLI lied about "No new taxes." I voted for Clinton
When Clinton lied about "I did not have sexal relations with that woman." I thought he should be censured by the Congress.

The most maddening thing about Bush XLIII is that how he parses his words and frames his argument very deliberately so not to get caught in a lie, even though we know that he is not telling the truth. Even on the yellow cake, Bush used "British intelligence reports" to make his case; but the British still have not shown that evidence so that we can know definitively that Bush lied.

When Hillary lied about taking Bosnian 'sniper fire'. she disqualified herself for consideration as president. We need to be able to trust our leaders.

daweeni:

joblo

As much as I hate to disagree with you, I think Jimbo has lost his worst President of the last 50 years title to the Shrub. After all, Jimbo's idiotic dealings with the Iranian situation only screwed up our foreign affairs. GW has managed to screw up everything he, and his incompetent political hack appointees, have touched, domestically and abroad. In the end, Jimbo's TV appearances only made me shake my head and wonder how the Democrats picked such a loser, whereas watching Bush on the tube makes me embarassed to think that this is the face that the rest of the world pictures, when they think of our country. Jimbo's brother Billy was certainly an embarrassment on the same level as Georgie Boy, but at least he wasn't living in the White House.

david johnson:

It's hard to believe we once had a president who wasn't a liar, after the last couple of decades. Thanks, Jimmy, for being a president we could look up to. A president who didn't run up the national debt, who didn't get us into a neverending war, who didn't take away our most precious constitutional rights in the name of security, who didn't sell arms to Iran to finance an illegal war in Nicaragua, who was a good man and a Sunday school teacher who is thirty years on after his presidency, one of the most respected men in the world--in contrast to our current president who is the most despised.

The Republicans have done their damnest to convert lying into an artform. This November, it stops at the polls.

B-man:

RMorrow:

Exactly who discredited the book and exactly which parts were "plagiarized"?

I've watched several hours of President Carter discuss the contents of the book, and he has a perspective and insight to that region that is unparalleled. The truth of the matter is that the definition of Apartheid is exactly what the Israeli's are doing to the Palestinians. They've taken over the Palestinians land, grabbed the best high spots, built roads between those spots, forbidden Palestinians to use those roads or even cross them, cutting off farmers homes from their farmland, and have surrounded the Palestinians on 3 sides and are trying to cut them off completely.

If the communist Chinese were doing this in America, how would you feel? A little perspective please.

Capitalist Infidel:

Could you please stop giving disgusting anti-Semites like Jimmy Carter a place to print his vile bigotry? Is this just turning into an Islamist forum?

daweeni:

So then, when Jimbo returned from his Middle East diplomatic initiative, telling us how Hamas was willing to live in peace next to Israel, and they completely contradicted everything he said, was he lying, or was he simply a misguided dupe?

Dhimmi Carter:

Jimmy Carter may be an anti-semite, a terrorist lover, an economy wrecker, a closet communist, the worst president ever, and liar but at least he isn't a...no, he is.
He is.

rmorrow:

B-man:
President Carter has perhaps the greatest understanding of the Middle East, it's problems, their sources, and a road-map out of the nightmare that it is in, of any international statesman in the world. His work on the ground there is nothing short of heroic. Read his recent book on the Palestinians. It is a clear-eyed, reality-based look at that region, and it will give you necessary information to understand what is really going on there that you won't find on Fox news.

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The book was widely discredited and many parts were plagarized.

You just like him beacuse he is a liberal and blames America and Israel for everything. (Most folks who hate Fox News so much share your narrow views.)

Speaking of lies:

From a long-time associate of Jimmy Carter, a professor of Middle East history, and former member of the Carter Center who resigned to protest the content of Carter's latest book:

"It (the book) contains egregious errors of both commission and omission. To suit his desired ends, he manipulates information, redefines facts, and exaggerates conclusions. Falsehoods, when repeated and backed by the prestige of Carter's credentials, can comprise an erroneous baseline for shaping and reinforcing attitudes and policymaking. Rather than bring peace, they can further fuel hostilities, encourage retrenchment, and hamper peacemaking."

Carter lovers, do you have anything to say about this?

Joblo:

Sure, this self serving, self righteous excuse of an ex-president may feel that he has never lied to the American people but he surely will also never admit that instead of accepting his own failures as a president he just blamed the American people. Remember this gem? "We can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives and in the loss of a unity of purpose for our Nation. The erosion of our confidence in the future is threatening to destroy the social and the political fabric of America." After thirty years of this garbage his whining is getting old. Begin and Sadat are dead and nothing has changed in the Middle East. So much for truthfulness there. Lets put this old fart, the WORST president of my 50 year lifetime, out to pasture and let him chew his cud to his heart's content.

B-man:

President Carter has perhaps the greatest understanding of the Middle East, it's problems, their sources, and a road-map out of the nightmare that it is in, of any international statesman in the world. His work on the ground there is nothing short of heroic. Read his recent book on the Palestinians. It is a clear-eyed, reality-based look at that region, and it will give you necessary information to understand what is really going on there that you won't find on Fox news.

Robert Samet:

Mr. Carter:

In the name of truthfulness, why don't you make a full disclosure of the Arab money from which you and the Carter Center have profited and continue to profit and that, along with unbridled anti-Semitism, fuels your relentless campaign of disinformation and outright lies about Israel? Why don't you tell us how much more money accusing Israel of an apartheid government in the title of your book generated, when you have since admitted that you know Israel does not maintain an apartheid government? From where does the money come, Mr. Carter, that enables you to travel the world, kissing and embracing Hamas terrorists?

The plain truth is that you have by your own conduct forfeited any right to preach to anyone about truthfulness.

rmorrow:

homer:
I judge a person by their actions. Since leaving office Mr. Carter has done many good deeds (Habitat for Humanity, human rights, election monitoring). How many other former presidents can say the same?

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Actually, most of them. The difference is that Carter was such a miserable failure as President that he has dedicated his whole life to a unending PR campaign to make people think the way you do. Carter makes certain he gets public credit for anything he does (as well as taking credit for other people's work.)

Where Carter is truly different is in the damage that he has caused as ex-President by providing talking points and respectabilty to our nation's enemies.

How many other former presidents can say the same?

rmorrow:

frank burns:
What was so bad about Carter's presidency. I thought it went very well. The hostage situation was not easy from any standpoint. Bush would have deflagrated WWIII, and all the hostages would have certainly been killed. Carter took the peaceful route and they all returned safely. My vote was, and always will be with Carter.

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Looks like Frank Burns is a hyper-partisan who will only see good in "his side" and only see bad in "their side".

If you think Carter's Presidency "went very well", you are either ignorant or just hate Bush so much that you feel the need to support any idiot who attacks him, be it Carter or Kanye West.

Reles Grob:

Carter is the biggest liar, and, purveu=yor of his own blood libel. It was Jimmy Peants who deliberately lied Israel's killings of Hitzballah criminals (Carter just took his Hitzbollah friends word for that) . Now, that the Lebanese government is speaking out against the Hitzbollah crimes against Lebanon, Carter is changing the subject. HE, Carter, is the enemy of the US.

Bernard Ross:

Carter is not only a liar but also a huckster, a con man and an elmer gantry. He uses the aura of morality to cover his crooked work. He makes a lot of money from the supervising and certifying bohgus elections. He is bought by the arab oil cartel and does their bidding.

Charles Carter (my name is Carter too, unfortunately) :

And who is Jimmy Carter to talk about liars? His last book was debunked and the lies were laid bare by the Middle East specialists in the Clinton administration, including the chief negotiator Dennis Ross. Even members of his own institute resigned because of Carter's lies.

Nobody could possibly defend him based on facts.

Carter Has The Blood Of Our Troops On His Hands:

If Iran is today an Islamic mullahocracy ready to throw the world into a nuclear holocaust, do not forget it was Jimmy Carter who made the Iranian revolution possible. He is responsible for the fact that mentally deranged people like Khomeini, Arafat, Assad or Saddam came to power in the Middle East. When Ahmedinajad will pass a nuclear suitcase bomb to AlQuaeda terrorists to smuggle in AMERICA and wipe out a city like Los Angeles, do not forget to thank Jimmy Carter for that.

frank burns:

What was so bad about Carter's presidency. I thought it went very well. The hostage situation was not easy from any standpoint. Bush would have deflagrated WWIII, and all the hostages would have certainly been killed. Carter took the peaceful route and they all returned safely. My vote was, and always will be with Carter.

Carter Has The Blood Of Our Troops On His Hands:

If Iran is today an Islamic mullahocracy ready to throw the world into a nuclear holocaust, do not forget it was Jimmy Carter who made the Iranian revolution possible. He is responsible for the fact that mentally deranged people like Khomeini, Arafat, Assad or Saddam came to power in the Middle East. When Ahmedinajad will pass a nuclear suitcase bomb to AlQuaeda terrorists to smuggle in AMERICA and wipe out a city like Los Angeles, do not forget to thank Jimmy Carter for that.

Mike:

President Carter never lies. He deeply believes in everything that he says and does. He is simply a very deluded and naive man. He is the same man now as he was during the terrible years of his presidency.

Mr. Carter is a man who fights for human dignity and human rights all over the world, yet neither he nor his Carter Center haave ever addressed these issues in the part of the world where human rights are at their lowest ebb. Guess where the biggest contributors to the Carter Center reside?

A deluded man can never lie, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us should wallow in these same delusions.

Despite what many of you think about President Bush, I guarantee that President Carter will go down in history as our worst President and he has set a new low for his post-presidency "diplomacy."

frank burns:

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, the phrase "national security reasons" translates inviariably, to "I need to save my ass here."

Mike:

Who is Jimmy Carter to say what Presidents should do? He was the worst President in American history and is proving to be the worst ex-President as well. Carter's insufferable arrogance has made him the first President in a hundred years to criticize a sitting President. Even worse, Carter thumbs his nose at official American foreign policy when it stands in the way of an opportunity for self-aggrandizing.

Carter is a dangerous fool and our country will be better off when he stops his arrogant and destructive meddling.

Philip Atticus:

I agree whole-heartedly with President Carter's message and the spirit behind it.

I am saddened by the bigoted and irrelevant comments left in response. Whatever one's personal opinion, the argument should be judged and debated on its merits, not through scurrilous personal attacks.

I hope President Carter will continue his good work.

Andy I:

Jimmy Carter: you are a failed president who devolved into a digusting mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists.

samrev:

Even if presidents have to lie on ocsssion, it should be rare enough that the lies are effective.

Nick Polyak:

Carter was and is pandering to the genocidal apartheid Islamonazi rabble rouses who spend billions of oil money into forming the world's opinion including American academia and press. To do it he sacrifices both decency and truth.

Bevilacqua:

I just noticed the poll.

Carter's follies are are due to his

a) ignorance
b) manic egotism
c) self-righteousness and superiority
d) malevolence
e) all of the above

I say some of all of them but mostly b.

Valerie Alexander:

For me, a dedication to truthfulness involves not just a clean heart, but also a conscious and thorough effort to get to the pertinent facts. In my experience, people who have failed to make that effort haven't really had clean hearts, either.

So, Mr. Carter's pretensions to truthfulness are not credible with me.

LindaG:

I'm dismayed by the disparaging remarks made against this great man and American. While there will always be myriad political philosophies about what works/will work and why, shame on those who fault President Carter for approaching the big issues of our day with love and tolerance (those Christian and humanitarian values), and who else has spent so much time, money, effort, and focused so much attention on advancing positive change since leaving office? Nixon? Ford? Reagan? Bush Sr.? Clinton? God bless President Carter and may he continue to so generously contribute his time, work, and intelligence for many years to come.

Minh:

I've observed at other times that the exploding consequences of a small lie can result in political catastrophe, as was shown in President Nixon's effort to conceal the Watergate break-in.

There have been other examples since I left office.

----

It's the 9/11 lies by Bush and his facial expression while being informed by Andrew Card at the reading class in the morning of 9/11.

I'm still too young to understand the timing in politics. The fact is you, Jimmy Carter remain silent for all those 7 years from 9/11 and do your things outside the USA.

But the timing of physical law is simple and calculable it's t=sqrt(2h/g)

With
h1=541m h2=540m h7=174m
g=9.8m/s^2
we have t1=10.5s t2=10.5s and t7=6s

I guess in the US, the law of physics is expressed in different unit of length, but time is mesured the same. Maybe it's longer to get the truth out in the USA ?

BGone:

Your administration did have good friendly relations with the Vatican? Just thinking about the Bible being a proved hoax makes the pope's head hurt you know. Mr Bush is sending him a large shipment of Advil, Tylenol and a rabbit's foot, so I hear.

Moses wouldn't lie about something as serious as talking to God would he? How about Pat Robertson? We must not call them liars. Like Moses, Pat made a deal with a being he's sure is God. He wouldn't deal with Lucifer, the angel that would be God and lie about it? Can't say any man who's taken holy orders lies 'may' we?

By the way, Moses got to be the most important man that ever lived through his conversations with some supernatural being. Not bad for a killer on the run, huh? Is it God or Devil that rewards folks here on earth in exchange for their souls? How's Pat made out, you know, since his Lear jet crashed? I'll bet he's whining about the high price of jet fuel, an even bet since I haven't wasted my time listening to what he has to say in a while.

We're only talking about the snake that bit you, kinda like the one that bit the Reverend John Wayne "Punkin" Brown. Jesus didn't come to his rescue either even though he was right there in church with the whole congregation helping him make the call.

T. A. Larson:

"Let's take a poll.

Carter's follies are are due to his

a) ignorance
b) manic egotism
c) self-righteousness and superiority
d) malevolence
e) all of the above"

b, c, and d
a has nothing to do with it

Anonymous:

it is obvious that little jimmy has his family writing things here no one else would write anything good about you.

A Former Democrat:

Lies? Truth? How about complimenting murderous dictators just to gain an audience so Jimmy Carter can bask in the spotlight. Ask the folks in Cuba imprisoned after meeting with Carter about his lies. Carter is a sanctimonious, sad little man desperately seeking the respect a contemptuous citizenry rightfully denied him after his disastrous presidency.

John Sagassi:

If Carter were around in the 1930's he'd be seen in pictures smiling with and embracing Hitler.

"Talking with your enemies" does not mean meeting with those who are hell-bent on destruction. It only empowers them.

Minh:

"i think things happened during his administration that no mortal could have forseen or managed. in other words, he got far more blame than he deserved, and his successor got undeserved praise."

-- "Jim Filyaw"

Blame and praise by whom ? By those people who push America in to this mess in the middle East ?

You look at Jimmy's smile at his age, and you know something about him.

My full respect to Jimmy Carter and what he's done.

Dave:

Yes, President Jimmy Carter was a decent man -- more decent than many I recall holding the office of the presidency. Yes, honesty is the best policy and lying by a head of state is quite unsatisfactory for any reason.

However, the needs of The Republic sometime outweigh the decency and humanitarian interests of the leader and though I would never be so presumptive as to call the fine man Mr. Carter naive it is difficult to fathom why we would boycott the olympics or absorb every Cuban refugee Mr. Castro released from mental asylums and prisons and allowed to float the 90 miles to our shores.

Decency and humanity are virtues it is true. Mr. Carter deserves our utmost respect and admiration for setting the exemplary moral standard during his tenure in office. I am just left wondering if it was all worth it in the end. We have strained our resources for less; but it never seems to end.

We unilaterally cannot take responsibility for the entire world.

Respectfully.

jim filyaw:

this column reminds me of why so many americans ended up despising mr. carter.

first, let me say this. i don't think he was a bad man or a bad president. i think things happened during his administration that no mortal could have forseen or managed. in other words, he got far more blame than he deserved, and his successor got undeserved praise.

the challenges aside, carter never seemed to get the danger in sanctimony. in other words, you don't go around patting yourself on the back for not lying (even if you haven't). no doubt honesty is a virtue. but, i would hasten to add, so is humbleness.

Lawrence Oswald:

Dear Mr. Carter
You would be wiser to restrict your contributions to targets of opportunity. This is more a cervantian windmill at which to tilt.

Julie Arnold:

How does the statement go? "Once a liar, always a liar." True people thought Carter naive; but looking back over the succeeding presidencies of both parties, makes me wonder what the USA would look like today if we had continued to have "truthful" presidents. And also, what would Iraq look like? We the people have allowed this to happen, and we the people need to get really busy about fixing it.

Anonymous:

i cant believe we let an American hating piece of garbage like you be president.
you never did what was right you did what was stupid, dumb, and against the interests of the country you swore to protect and defend. you neither protected us or defended us.
you were so bad as president you did not last more than one term then we kicked you out.

Barney Scott:

Of course former President Carter is absolutely right. Let us hope future presidents learn from his wisdom; and let the never-ending-lies and spin of the Bush/Cheney administration serve as an object lesson to drive home Carter's point.

Former President Eisenhower left us with the advice that we beware of the military-industrial complex. We did not learn from this admonition; perhaps because most of us only got as far as the first six words of his warning. The reading of his entire farewell address on the subject is illuminating and spells out exactly what that complex gaining a choke hold on the nation would entail; and it has come to pass.

Now let us hope our future leaders learn from Carter and not continue to view him as weak and ineffectual while in office. He was a very good man always trying to do what was right. He was denied a second term because America swooned and became all starry-eyed over the celebrity of a charming and affable movie hero. Reagan was a nice guy; but also a president who let his wife's astrologer have a hand in his decision making. Was that any way to run our country?

President Bush can only see as far as Reagan's rough hewn image as a cowboy ridin' the range around his ranch when seeking a hero to emulate. Too bad he can not see that Carter sits tall in the saddle without the window dressing of a faux working ranch, a ten-gallon hat, and pointy-toed boots.

Joseph:

I agree with the view that presidents should not be liars and the claim that overwhelming majority of US citizens agree with this statement. However, the rest of President Carter's statements are inaccurate.

Presidents should be truthful IF voters are able and willing to understand complex arguments and research facts. Presidents should be truthful If other leaders are be influenced by the honesty and good-will of the interlocutors.

If presidents are always truthful without the requisite preconditions being in place that honesty will lead to undesired consequences.

Our political system is based on, and cannot make do without, various layers and genres of lies and anyone who says otherwise is simply lying. Either to himself or to others.

L Giles:

Dear Jimmy,

I am to young to have seen you act as President of the United States, however, I've been reading more about you and appreciate your service.

You've entitled your message, "Presidents should not be liars." I would venture to say that "Community leaders should not be liars." Regardless of how big a community, leaders represent the individuals of the community and should be honest and forthright with each one. However, like you say, some intelligence leakage can influence security measures and must be taken into consideration.

However, time and again veracity is compromised for the leader's and/or supporter's self-serving agenda.

Thank you for pointing out that small lies are the very foundation of political catastrophe. Let the American People hold our community leaders responsible for their political honesty!

kaywallace:

It is wonderful that ole' Jimmy thinks so highly of himself and his role as President.
The people of the USA do not share his views!!

kaywallace:

It is wonderful that ole' Jimmy thinks so highly of himself and his role as President.
The people of the USA do not share his views!!

CraiginJersey:

The Obama campaign should send Jimmy Carter and the show-stealing Reverend Wrong on a long trip to Africa, one that lasts until mid-November.

Mark:

Jimmy Carter -- my first vote ever, and probably the only truly enthusiastic vote I ever cast. Honesty and morality do have their benefits. By the way, remember Carter's energy policy -- the first major legislation of his administration -- a total melt-down failure. Guess what, we'd be just spinning along right now had people listened. Let's listen to this guy, even now.

Edward Adams:

More dangerous to the nation than a chief executive with a slippery sense of the truth is one in which absolute principles and the naive idea that other governments act by them trumps self interest in foreign policy. Jimmy Carter exuded those dangerous qualities in dealings with Iran, in which he failed to support the Peacock throne and then clung to the failed notion that the Islamic radicals that he ushered into power in Tehran would deal with the American hostage taking out of deference to international law and a sense of right and wrong.

RB:

It is interesting that the ones that are in opposition of Carter's article are calling him an anti-Semite for opposing the slaughter of a country such as Palestine, that has a UN sanctioned elected officials with no power to defend the starving and slaughter of its people by Israel. Such a religious nation as the Jewish State of Israel should understand such things as humanity after what the Germans did to them in WW II as we are reminded everyday of the holocaust.. But once again, the Jewish Nation is showing its ugly head as being evil and not willing to lead the way in helping and loving its neighbors, by always playing the fear card. Sounds like our president and the Republicans? One day, the helpless Palestinians will acquire all the weaponry that the US has provided to Israel and there country in which they cherish will disappear due to their hatred for the holocaust is happening in Palestine. I for one will not fell sorry for a nation that is a God fearing country and has so much hatred for its fellow man and woman. If any living Jew wants to remind the world about the holocaust, stop doing what you’re doing to Palestine first. Your religion was of God and you trample his very words.

Carol:

I admire Jimmy Carter tremendously, not only for the good he has achieved since his Presidency, but also because he is the only, I repeat only, President who has successful negotiated a lasting peace treaty between Israel and another Arab nation.

Bill Clinton left negotiations until the end of his term when there was no time left to accomplish anything and, ludicrously, bush is scrambling to put something together between Israel and the Palestinians, but is only including half of the latter group in his efforts.

John Sagassi:

If Carter were around in the 1930's he'd be seen in pictures smiling with and embracing Hitler.

"Talking with your enemies" does not mean meeting with those who are hell-bent on destruction. It only empowers them.

Jimmy Carter is one person I trust to be a 'thinker' and a 'truth teller.'

Ditto for Barack and Michelle Obama.

Lies are so damaging not only for the liar but also the person(s) lied about.

vern johnson:

Good to hear that at least one of the US presidents since Lincoln was truthful in inclination if not entirely true factually. At least Jimmy, your heart was in the right place and I appreciate that.

I would like to hear more about the murderous machinations of the CIA and their other "crimes". Let it all hang out Jimmy. What have you got to lose at this age? The nation would thank you if you named names and named exact dates so that the likes of David Addington would never again sully the halls of justice. And why not support the impeachments of Cheney and Bush before they drag the USA into another conflict, in Somalia, in Sudan, in Iran, in Lebanon. Bush is itching to leave and leave this mess for Obama to sort out, but why not try some pre-emptive activity of your own before Petraeus and Cheney get some more people killed?

E. K.:

Geo,

Good point.

Let's take a poll.

Carter's follies are are due to his

a) ignorance
b) manic egotism
c) self-righteousness and superiority
d) malevolence
e) all of the above

Geo:

I disagree with those who say that Carter's pronouncements and actions regarding the mideast in recent times reflect mere ignorance.

I just don't know if it's manic egotism and superior self-righteousness or if it's something worse: malevolence.

Bob Tapscott:

Thwe real question is what do you do when the lies kill?

The Gulf of Tonken incident never existed, and yet over 50,000 American soldiers were killed in response to a fictitious attack.

There were no WMDs or Al Queda links, yet over 4,000 American soldiers have died, under false pretentions, after invading the wrong country.

When President's lie and Americans die, should that not be considered automatic grounds for impeachment, and imprisonment, or does the Commander in Chief have a right to kill our soldiers capriously?

Edward Adams:

Truth is not an absolute value. There are the old time worn thought experiments like: A Nazi knocks on your door and asks if you are harboring Jews in your house. That said, the value of truth telling of presidents was seriously devalued during the term of #42, in which lies about sex even under oath, were deemed politically acceptable.

Now, it has become an issue like pork barrel spending, in which the public decries it in general but demands it of their local politician. Veracity is something the public only demands of politicians that they do not support.

Leigh:

Agreed Mr. President. But a President is unable to manage the thousands of diverse Americans who work in his administration. Isn't the real objective the setting of an example for the entire government and the nation at large. We are surrounded by liars. TV Commercials, politicians' statements, adulterers ad infinitum. It almost seems that lying trounces baseball as the national pastime. The benefits you realized by being honorable are significant and in no way do I want to diminish them. But the benefits of good leadership far exceed even those accomplishments and I hope you will emphasize that broader platform. The Bush Administration lied about almost everything of importance. Karl Rove and Condoleeza Rice. Rumsfeld and Feith and Scooter Libby and others will take the fall. But as you well know George W. Bush in all probability simply played the "plausible deniability" game and, at some level, the public knows it.

He has set a far more immoral example for the nation and its youth than Bill Clinton's sexual proclivities. To the extent George W. Bush has any further leadership opportunities left, his message is quite simple: The ends justify the means and you aren't required to even tell people what ends you are seeking. The party of "values" has spent eight years undermining the core values of this country because our President didn't understand that all he really does of enduring importance while in the Oval office is set an example.

joseph stack:

We have always trusted in what President Carter has said and done.

truthseeker:

Katherine>


Actually I agreed with Dubya on his proposed legislation to give immigrants temporary work status.

So I'm afraid you are the one making generalities.

I did not read Carter's letter to apply solely to the Middle East, although his point was a President needed to have at least the appearance of some modicum of integrity in order to have the respect needed to represent all sides in an international conflict.

Since you seem opposed to all mediation and compromise, what is your proposal for a solution in the Middle East -- more wars? a mini holocaust perhaps?

alee21:

I would take a competent President who is a fighter for the right cause anytime over someone who may revere the truth (or so he says) but obviously was not suited to the job.

Meeting with Hamas is just about the most self-inflating and out-of-touch action in recent times.

truthseeker:

Katherine>


Actually I agreed with Dubya on his proposed legislation to give immigrants temporary work status.

So I'm afraid you are the one making generalities.

I did not read Carter's letter to apply solely to the Middle East, although his point was a President needed to have at least the appearance of some modicum of integruy in order to have the respect needed to represent all sides in an international conflict.

Since you seem opposed to all mediation and compromise, what is your proposal for a solution in the Middle East -- more wars? a mini holocaust perhaps?

Katherine:

Firstly, I am a democrat. I can understand how people could have voted for Carter when he ran the first time. I cannot understand how people could laud him today, given his warping of history in the Middle East (his recent book was loaded with lies, ironically) and his embracing of groups that are IMPLACABLY dedicated to war and terrorism.

It's important not to let your dislike of Bush push you to the other extreme.

truthseeker:

I am convinced Dubya is the most corrupt President in US history. His most horrific lies have been:

i) insisting our intelligence officials thought there was evidence Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the US from WMD, when they did not. Cheney had formed a special intelligence group who were politicalized to present dubious claims of Saddam's danger as real.

ii) muzzling scientists (such as James Hansen of NASA) to warn the public about the dangers of global warming. Bush lied in his 2000 campaign that if elected he would work with foreign governments to find a solution to global warming. Instead - Bush fought behind the scenes to gut all work to forming an international treaty to combat global warming.

iii) Bush continues to lie that he cares about the deficits he has created with is reckless tax cuts and wars. His solution to all problems is to give another tax cut.


My only complaint with you, Mr. Carter is that you were not more vocal against this very evil President who is poised to take this country down to a third world status for future generations!

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Rocco Celentano:

Yes President Carter (or should I call you Captain Obvious)presidents should not lie, and they should not be incompetent leaders who lead their nation into the depths that hadn't been realized since 1968. And while we are at it, they should ban their athletes from Olympic competition over politics and destroy the dreams of those who worked so hard to get there. Better yet Mr. Carter I think it would be best for you to really SHUT UP!!

Violet Cauthon:

Ex-president Carter is a shining example of a man who has lived his life after exiting the White House with dignity and integrity and for good. I admire him tremendously.

Even more egotistical than Carter :

This says it all:

The Dems DON'T want Jimmy "Chavez" Carter anywhere near their convention.

The Obama campaign DOES want Jimmy "Hamas" Carter to keep his mouth shut about any sort of Obama endorsement.

His own party is ashamed of him!
Maybe some day he'll wake up to his ignorance and realize how damn ashamed he should be of himself!

Sajwert:

I voted for Carter. I have always admired and respected him as a man with great integrity and a strong moral compass.
Had George W Bush worked only 1/2 as hard as Carter did to bring some measure of peace for Israel from its many enemies, we might now be seeing a far different situation in Gaza.
If America gets the sort of governance it deserves, I wish someone would tell me what on God's green earth have we done to deserve the past 7 years with Bush.

R B:

I remember Bush I and "Read my lips, NO NEW TAXES." and Clinton, "I did not have sexual a relationship with Monica Lewinski." And Bush II, "I am a Uniter and I will not be a Nation Builder." Yes, they have all lied and disgraced our country, but look at the differences mentioned. First, of all, Carter was a good president except for when he told all of America to stop using your credit cards to purchase things with and to start conserves energy and by doing so, he would give a tax break to those who did so. Those are facts which Americans were not standing for. Now look at what we have after Carter; Bush I invaded Iraq for the oil and lied about taxes. Lost the election to Clinton who's only vise was a sex scandal in which the Republican Speaker of the House by the name of Gringrich was having an affair while trying to prosecute the president for the same thing. But, he did lie. Then there was Bush II in which makes lying such a pattern and way of life in such a way that every Republican now looks like Bush, no