Post reporter Kevin Sullivan's interview with Sergei Torop, spiritual leader of Church of the Last Testament in Siberia, who claims to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
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I think his views are good. I'm a wiccan and I agree with a lot of what he had to say. He has a lot of good in his heart and he's willing to look like a fool to bring people together and make a difference. Honestly I think the only reason he decided to say he's the reincarnation of Jesus was because it would have been the best way to get attention and get his message out there for people to hear. Honestly his views are almost the same as mine and I'm as pagan as they come. Everyone should know the Christianity started out with a lot of it's views comming from pagan religions because that was who they were trying to convert. So it's just going back to an old and (in my opinion) more legit way of believing in things.
April 23, 2008 6:43 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 23, 2008 18:43
I think his views are good. I'm a wiccan and I agree with a lot of what he had to say. He has a lot of good in his heart and he's willing to look like a fool to bring people together and make a difference. Honestly I think the only reason he decided to say he's the reincarnation of Jesus was because it would have been the best way to get attention and get his message out there for people to hear. Honestly his views are almost the same as mine and I'm as pagan as they come. Everyone should know the Christianity started out with a lot of it's views comming from pagan religions because that was who they were trying to convert. So it's just going back to an old and (in my opinion) more legit way of believing in things.
April 23, 2008 6:42 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 23, 2008 18:42
Incredible amount of stupid nonsense!!!!!
February 8, 2008 6:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 8, 2008 18:47
Incredible amount of stupid nonsense!!!!!
February 8, 2008 6:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 8, 2008 18:47
Hey Anon,
All of your biblical references fit into the categories of scriptural embellishments and fortune telling. Recommend a "time out" with some reading about the real Jesus at http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html
February 7, 2008 3:52 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 7, 2008 03:52
Hey Jesus, cure any amputees lately?
February 7, 2008 2:44 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 7, 2008 02:44
This is one of the funniest things I've read in ages. Thanks.
February 7, 2008 12:53 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 7, 2008 00:53
Jesus Christ knew the purpose of His incarnation (Colossians 1:19-22).
Christ humbly acknowledged God the Father as greater than Himself (John 5:19; 14:28).
Jesus Christ fervently believed in praying -- especially for others (John 17) and in obedience to God the Father (Hebrews 5:7-8).
Jesus Christ is the exact representation of the Eternal God, yet chose to lay down His divine nature as a human sacrifice, dying for our sins (Hebrews 1:3; 2:14-15).
Jesus taught with the goal of honoring God (John 7:16-18).
Ya Ya.
February 6, 2008 11:53 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 23:53
The Bible warns extensively of false teachers, those who practice deception (Matthew 24:4-5, Colossians 2:8, 1 Timothy 4:1-2, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, 2 Peter 2:1-3).
The Scriptures also tell of Jesus Christ’s Second Coming to reunite all believers eternally with God (Matthew 16:27, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, Revelation 1:7-8).
Do not be deceived. Jesus Christ’s divine nature is unchanging. “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. So
do not be attracted by strange, new ideas” (Hebrews 13:8-9).
Ya Ya.
February 6, 2008 11:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 23:29
He make a hell of a lot more sense than the neochristian "leaders" who spout hatred and exclusion. Who are we to say he is not the Christ?
February 6, 2008 11:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 23:03
Idiot.
February 6, 2008 10:35 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 22:35
Wasn't there someone in South America running a rather large church that thought HE was the reincarnation of Jesus?
February 6, 2008 9:19 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 21:19
Ahmed, those were the wisest words I have seen writting on this blog.
Look at what kind of ignorant comments are written on here. How primitive.
February 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 20:07
The poor holy fool. His teachings are too ludicrously "simplistic" for us worldly-wise, well-educated, sophisticated modern-day folks. And folks, that reflects pretty shabbily on us.
Here's a fella who's teaching things we all ought to be putting into practice every minute of each day. He may, or may not, be Yeshua reincarnated. What does it matter? What's more important, the messenger or the Message?
I am humble enough to recognize that not all Truth dwells within me -- or any single human being -- and open enough to be willing to learn new truths, or be reminded of ancient ones, by paying heed to fellas like Vissarion rather than reflexively and defensively mocking or belittling them.
We are immortal spirits that merely happen to be temporally clothed at the moment. All Vissarion is saying is, for gosh sakes let's start acting like it.
February 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 20:01
Every time a wise man comes he is shot down. Yet any man can come and offer you money and lies about nationalism and you are off donning military uniform and killing folks you have never met, just because you believed your leaders who told you they are your enemy.
Question: How come you are ready to kill easily for your belief in politics but vehemently deny a wise man who affirms life?
I have read the interview and read all the comments above. Not one of the opposing people has given a reasonable justification for their disagreement. Only silly remarks like 'ask him to walk on water.'
Listen to what he says and see if you can oppose it. He tells you what I know to be The Truth. So, for one who is a Muslim, I believe tis man. He tells the truth, but it seems that this is way above many heads, so the poor guy has a battle on his hand. Some 2000 years ago they crucified him for telling the truth and that was led by the most ardent of believers in his message at the time. It seems that not much has changed since. Again they profess to be waiting for him but when he appears they want to crucify him.
How many times truth must be revealed before it finds a taker? In reality there is one truth and he has said it in more than one plain way. It seems that it is falling on deaf ears despite the misery that we see every day because we avoid this simple truth.
This truth says: We are all one. Anything we do to another we do to ourselves.
February 6, 2008 5:59 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 17:59
Att: katie: YE saith;
'Allah' means God in Arabic you moron. @ 2:42 PM. Today.
Note: If Said Together like,
"A L L A H, A K B A R!" The same Words Blurted out by TERRORISTS (by Retarded or Hospice volunteers), ninoseconds before, say,
when a Islamic due to Matyred ,pulls their "Explosive-BELT via cord or Cordless" !
So "ALLAH (LORD/GOD) + AKBAR ("Great"-er than)
your G-d/Lord Yaweh/Jehova, GOD's, GODDESES etc, by whatever Name!
Ya Ya. ALLAH by Itself is KOSHER (HALAL in Arabic), but NOT when mixed & Added together with "MY G-D is GREATER than Your G-D KAFFir (non-Musloms regardless of Color, Race or Nationality..).
February 6, 2008 5:37 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 17:37
What's the big? There's no compelling evidence that the First-Century B.C.E. "christ" was the real thing, either. So the christians believe this particular chapter of middle-eastern mythology - gaps, vagueness (oops, I mean `faith') and all...big surprise; they wrote it & have promoted it for 2000 years past its expiration date (Matt: 24:34 & Mark 9:1).
Jesus-ben-joseph didn't pass muster with the authorities of his father-religion (judaism) - they considered him (and still do) just another in a long line of "dud messiahs".
February 6, 2008 5:27 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 17:27
Seems rather cogent for a lunatic...
February 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 17:25
Eh, I dunno, as Jesuses I've met go, this guy does OK. :)
February 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 16:51
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February 6, 2008 3:57 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 15:57
I call BULLS**T!!!
February 6, 2008 3:49 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 15:49
Jacob,
Keep you short on, Honey! I was joking, of course!
February 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 15:22
Katie,
Moron yourself! I know that, but I used it instead of god because the sentence would have looked awkward.
February 6, 2008 3:19 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 15:19
'Allah' means God in Arabic you moron.
February 6, 2008 2:42 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 14:42
If he is Jesus Christ, it stands to reason that he was born by an immaculate conception. In that case, we think we should genetically examine him and try to find the "god" gene, or whatever else supernatural we can discover.
Then we would finally have our prove that god exists, we could establish a one religion world, we would have this son of god set our laws, and the world would at last be at peace.
No more speculation, no more atheists, everyone would be happy and secure in the knowledge that there is one god and his name is not Allah.
WOW!
February 6, 2008 2:31 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 14:31
Regardless of who this man is, his interview indicates a man who can (if his follower's actions are in line with what he has said) create some good in the world...some much needed good.
Unfortunately, bad WILL come of this because of the backlash from other religions, especially Christianity.
Craig
February 6, 2008 2:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 14:03
Dear Post web editor - I am looking for something. I remember a few days ago I was reading your religion section which seemed fairly interesting. I see by the above that for Lent you have decided to run a crappy parody. I was wondering - will this continue for the entire Lenten season, or will you soon return to regular reporting and opinion?
February 6, 2008 1:35 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:35
Is the appearance of Jesus the Messiah today about as unlikely as it was 2000 years ago??
Just about the same level of probability, I'd say.....
February 6, 2008 1:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:29
would the real jc please stand up...
February 6, 2008 1:16 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:16
Is this guy the real deal? Of course not.
(If a believer thinks he might be, even if only a small chance, wouldn’t any real Christian feel compelled to go meet this guy?)
So why do we say of course not? Because we apply real life judgment and we recognize two things. First, the unlikely factor: the odds that this guy is a god who has ‘returned’ to us is incalculably small. Second, the realistic alternatives: there are frauds and nutcases out there and the odds are devastatingly huge that this guy is a fraud or nutcase.
Now here’s my point: We apply the ‘unlikely factor’ and the ‘realistic alternatives’ consideration almost instinctively. And with even a little thought we use these two reasons to consider the issue settled.
So if believers can settle this issue today so simply and conclusively knowing that the actual evidence (the actual man) is right here and available to us, why do believers consider it BETTER proof to believe the same things based on 2000 year old word of mouth that came from the understanding of less enlightened minds?
February 6, 2008 1:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:15
This guy is bogus. I'm the real Jesus. Seriously folks, Jesus is dead and he ain't coming back.
February 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:09
From Russia with HATE:
вы будете самыми тупоумными людьми в мире!
Translated in AMERICAN, Not English w/Love:
"You are the most stupid people in the world!" Da, yes!
February 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:09
I am not religious and yet I dont find anything wrong with what he has to say.
He sounds a million times sane than the so called christians, popes and other scum.
February 6, 2008 1:05 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 13:05
This guy is a fraud and charlatan akin to con men who use fortune telling spiels. No different than the religious con prophets in the fictional OT, Mohammed's "Gabe-fest" in the koran, the Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke and John fortune telling/embellishments of the NT and the "Mormon-con" of Joseph Smith.
February 6, 2008 12:31 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 12:31
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February 6, 2008 11:45 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 6, 2008 11:45