Me siento muy agradecido por el tiempo y dedicacion q pucieron en esta columna de su editorial,agradesco la dedicacion a sus comentarios;Quisiera que les hicieran llegar mi gratitud a todos los involucrados en este reportaje de nuestro amado profeta el presidente Gordon B.Hinckley. les deceo el mayor de los exitos en sus vidas familiares y laborales espero q se me concediera un favor el poder tener este reportaje en español o como lo digo yo q en realidad hablo castellano.De nuevo gracias y q DIOS EL ETERNO PADRE Y SU HIJO LOS ACOMPAÑEN SIENPRE EN SUS VIDAS. ATENTAMENTE:Engelbert Pinilla Contreras

olhe aí que legal!!!!

Thank you President Hinckley!! Thank you for everything. I saw President Hinckley in Santiago, Chile at the largest LDS church gathering in history in 1999 in a soccer stadium. I remember that year Chile was suffering through a terrible drought. The day he visited, it was cloudy and we were hoping for rain but we didn't want it to interfere with the conference. I remember one of the last things he said was " Let it rain!" Minutes are the closing prayer, the rain poured down like I had never seen before. That was one of hundreds of spiritual experiences in my life that confirmed to me that President Hinckley was someone that truly represented Jesus Christ, and that I needed to heed his counsel throughout my life, because it comes from the Lord.

I read with gratitude your touching words about our dear President. I have only been a member of the church for 18 months and cannot begin to tell you how my life has improved since.

President Hinkley was a dear man, who's influence was far reaching, he made you feel humble and filled you with inspiration to try harder with all aspects of your life.

My heart broke when I heard of his passing, then filled with joy when I realised he would now be with his dear wife who he missed so much since her passing...what a joyous reunion it must have been

Thanks again
God bless you an all your endeavours

Sister Sue Ashworth
England UK

WE WILL DEARLY MISS OUR BELOVED PROPHET !

HE HAS BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL AROUND DA WORLD !

BT I GUES WAT WE CN DU NW IZ TKE HIZ WORDZ ND APPLY DEM IN2 OUR LIVEZ ! ! ! ! ! !

IM FROM BRISBANE AUSTRALIA !

ND PRESIDENT HINKLEY HAZ MEANT SO MUCH 2 SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND DA WORLD !

WE LUV U PROPHET

SAFE JOURNEY 2 HEAVEN

Thank You for a beautiful tribute to one of my greatest heroes. You have affirmed his teachings in way that makes my heart soar with joy. He was and is the most humble legend and awe inspiring testament to the love of Christ. Across all boundaries, races, creedos and nationalities he unfearingly devoted his life to humanity, May heavenly Father bless and keep you all. Mike.

To all,

President Hinckley was truly a wonderful man. Often he urged us to be kind and tolerant of one another, regardless of faith. This counsel surely extends to those who misunderstand us, whatever the reason. David Weiss, and others who have had negative experiences and/or impressions of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we reach out to you, and we wish to build on common ground and promote understanding between one another. Members of our faith, let us not become defensive and retaliatory, but let us follow the example of Christ in being conciliatory and inclusive. Many misunderstandings, as President Hinckley said, may be of our own making. Let's do what we can to "unmake" them by living as he and the Savior have counseled. Let us be open and address the concerns of others genuinely and with charity. Remember that Jesus said others would know us as His disciples if we "have love one to another."

I totally agree and I have been influenced by his great example and teachings in most part of my life. It helps me to become a better person. Thanks.

I Remember well when he was placed in as President of the Church but A talk of his that sticks out to me the most was a general conference talk at a priesthood session when I was about 12 or 13. Ezra Taft Benson Was the President of the church, but President Benson was to sick to make it to this conference session. President Hinckley was serving as his first counselor and during his talk he mentioned that there has been too much murmuring about President Benson because of his health. This
shows that he was also humble and very supportive of President Benson, He was happy with whatever calling the Lord called him to. Back then he didn't like people speculating that he was going to be President of The Church.

Thank you for the reverent and respectful way that you wrote this article about our Prophet!

Gordon B. Hinckley was truly a saint and a prophet. It has been sweet to see how he progressed as a man of God throughout his life, with his no-nonsense-get-things-done natural disposition into someone, who, through gentle example, coaxed others into showing more love and kindness for their fellow man.

What a marvelous teacher he has been for youth who see so much coarseness and vulgarity about them. I was touched to see my teenagers spontaneously decide to show their respect for him by dressing in their Sunday best to school last week.

I'll never forget his tears at his wife's funeral and so I smile, a great big smile, when I imagine him meeting again his beloved companion Marjorie.

"And they who keep their second estate shall have glory added upon their heads for ever and ever...."

we miss him - "God be with you til we meet again!"

I am grateful for the influence that Pres Gordon B Hinckley has had on my life. His testimony has strengthened mine. His contributions to the world are many. He taught the gospel of Jesus Christ and more importantly, lived it to the fullest extent to the very end of his life. Pres Hinckley's life is an example to each one of us to try to be better and treat others with kindness and love.

Dear Sir:
Thank you for remembering this great man and prophet so very nicely.

Cameron M. Shiell.

There are few men that could fill the shoes of President Gordon B. Hinkley regardless of religious affiliation or wealth. He represented all that was honorable, trustworthy, vitreous, kind, or loving in this world. He spoke no falsehoods. He gave to the world regardless of who they were or what they beloved. If help was needed, He was there to assist. He believed in the sanity of marriage and family. He loved children and they gravitated to him, like unto Jesus. Teenagers couldn't resist him regardless of the age difference between them and him -- they respected him, listened to him and loved him. Regardless of the county or language spoken, or the color of skin, he radiated the love he felt for each of us in his heart. He lived his life so he had no regrets. Few people pass through this world that can attest to that honor. He never asked more than he gave. He believe in Jesus Christ as his savior. He believed that Jesus died on the cross so that we might have eternal life. He inspired people to live closer to the teachings of the Master (Jesus Christ). He spoke with Kings and they admired and respected him. He returned to his Father in Heaven with Honor. This Man was truly inspired of God. Please stop with the disrespect that some have shown in this forum. Oh, if all of us can strive to be like Him this world would be a better, kinder place to live.

President Hinckley was truly an amazing man and a prophet of God. I love him so much and am grateful to have known him, although I never knew him personally. His optimism and love will be missed, but I am happy he will be with his beloved wife again. President Hinckley really related to us as youth and we felt his love. He was our prophet - the only one we really ever knew. It was really neat to go to school on Monday wearing church clothes to honor our beloved prophet. I will never forget that experience or the legacy he left for us.
Thank you for everything, President Hinckley! I love you.

With the passing away of our beloved President Gordon B Hinckley, what a glorious reception he would've recieved on the other side and specially the reuniting with his sweet and beloved wife Margery.

Families are eternal and I testify to this. He is in a better place now and stands among the mighty and strong ones who have passed on but yet,now walks along our Redeemer and Savior Jesus Christ.

God Be With You Till We Meet Again President Hinckley.

Sister Noeline David-Vakalahi
Panmure, Auckland NZ Stake

Detta Jackson (on mission to the Washington DC Temple with her husband Stan) sent me this poem written the other day after the news that President Hinckley had passed away. It's beautiful, so I thought it was appropriate to share.

Prophetic Passing

I imagine he's running to Marjorie now,
Yes, running, not waving his cane.
I see him embracing his father and mother
While they keep repeating his name.

I see him now meeting his forebears,
Brother Brigham and Joseph are there.
Sweet reunion of prophets, united by service
That only such noble men share.

I see him embraced by the Savior
While Father says, "Good, and well done.
So faithful in stalwart endurance, I welcome
My noble, most excellent son."

I then hear the ripples of laughter
As he says the reception's just fine,
But he hopes that he'll get an assignment or two
Since there's no need to waste any time.

I can hear his clear voice in the stillness
At the close of this sweet Sabbath day,
Have faith and move forward - there's work to be done.
President Hinckley would want it that way.

Anna M. Molgard
January 27, 2008

We will miss him but how great is his joy!

Detta Jackson (on mission to the Washington DC Temple with her husband Stan) sent me this poem written the other day after the news that President Hinckley had passed away. It's beautiful, so I thought it was appropriate to share.

Prophetic Passing

I imagine he's running to Marjorie now,
Yes, running, not waving his cane.
I see him embracing his father and mother
While they keep repeating his name.

I see him now meeting his forebears,
Brother Brigham and Joseph are there.
Sweet reunion of prophets, united by service
That only such noble men share.

I see him embraced by the Savior
While Father says, "Good, and well done.
So faithful in stalwart endurance, I welcome
My noble, most excellent son."

I then hear the ripples of laughter
As he says the reception's just fine,
But he hopes that he'll get an assignment or two
Since there's no need to waste any time.

I can hear his clear voice in the stillness
At the close of this sweet Sabbath day,
Have faith and move forward - there's work to be done.
President Hinckley would want it that way.

Anna M. Molgard
January 27, 2008

We will miss him but how great is his joy!

He really was a great exemple for everyone, and a man of God.
We will miss him in the next conference in april, it's a feeling of emptynes, and remember his humor and wise counsil.
He also was a great blessing for the whole Church in manny aspects, special Temple building.

He really was a great exemple for everyone, and a man of God.
We will miss him in the next conference in april, it's a feeling of emptynes, and remember his humor and wise counsil.
He also was a great blessing for the whole Church in manny aspects, special Temple building.

The messages really feels me good. My faith increases from time to time i read messages from Pres. Hinckley. This news/ article proves that Pres. Hinckley is a man of God, a true prophet, leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- day Saints.The whole church will surely miss him but God is the best at all times.Pres. Hinckley gave his best for members and non-members of the church.

President Hinckley will truly be missed and while we mourn for his passing from us I take solace in the fact that he is once again with dear and sweet wife, who he loved and missed so much. His earthly work is done but his eternal work and joy is just beginning.

I've noticed that the film "Man's Search for Happiness" has been brought up several times. The film strip version of the film can be found on my blog (I put it up several months ago - because it is still one of my favorites) at http://logicalsanity.com/?cat=4 It is in two parts because You Tube (the host) will not allow films longer than a few minutes.

i joined The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saint not very long ago but i have heard alot of wonderful truth that have affected my life positively.

when i head the death of President B. Hinckley my heart was not sadden, instead full of joy for Him. He lived well, full of the Gospel and the spirit. He had had all the Ordinances of the Holy Temple and i know he is going to be united to the family in the the bosom of God The Eternal Father. In a summary, He lived Great and Died Great.

I know what i said is True and it is Through the Lord Jesus Christ Amen.

We have spent the biggest part of our lives watching the accomplishments and life of President Hinckley. We raised our family to have love and respect for him and all of our leaders.
We revere him and will always have loving memories of him and his wonderful example and teachings. He was truely a Prophet of God, and a great leader and example of LOVE.

President Hinckley was a great man,peronally i will miss his wisdom and wit.
He cared for the poor and downtroden and was always charitable.
May God rest his sould in eternal peace

Thanks for positive comments about Pres Hinckley. He's truly a Prophet of God. His influence touched the lives of millions evrywhere in the world. I'm from the Phillipnes

Can't even remember what year it was--- Sister Hinckley was to talk at a Womens Conference and I figured President Hinckley would be there too so I went down on the main floor of the building to wait for President and Sister Hinckley to come in. Sure enough in they came and passed me----no, I said I can't bother the Prophet-- and then said oh yes, I can. He had sat by now and I went on the row behind and tap him on the shoulder and asked if I could shake hands with him--- and I did!! He greeted me and I walked away--- there was a security man that motioned me over and asked lots of questions-- I told him it was worth it to shake hands with the President. I remember President Hinckley for his acceptance of all people.He made me feel like I was good and deserved respect--I wanted to be better, kinder,and stand a little taller. He was so strong and yet put things so gentle. One would know he meant what he said and was direct when he needed to. I'll miss his sense of humor and his wit. I loved when he recited different poems. I saw him today at the viewing--how I love that man. I am so happy for his reunion with his precious wife and other family and friends.

The world will miss our prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley. I know that he loved everyone, whether they were members of the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or not. All you had to do was to look at his face and see the love and joy in his countenance. He loved (and loves) us when we make correct choices or when we chose the wrong choice, when we are happy or hurting, whether we loved ourselves, or were steeped in self-hatred. To look at Pres. Hinckley was to know that someone loved you. Just think how much more our Savior, Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven love us!
Thank you Pres. Hinckley, for loving us enough to show us the way back to Heaven. We will always honor and love you.
We also know that we will not be left leaderless; Heavenly Father will bless us with another prophet who will love us as much as you did.

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I have come to know, love, admire and respect President Gordon B. Hinckley for his continuous belief in uniting the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with the teachings of the gospel. As a member of the church in American Samoa, I would like to take this time to express my condolences to the Hinckley children and family in these times of sorrow. I strongly believe that he completed his mission here on earth and that his teaching will be greatly remembered by the saints. His never ending smile and humor will forever be remembered. One of his teaching that I know will solve whatever tension there is in here is, "Treat others that are not of our faith with utmost respect. Respect their belief. Let not any unclean thought, action change what you believe in.

Filifau Leiataua (American Samoa)

I apologize too David.

I jumped to a conclusion when your categorization of the movie did not mesh with mine. I see a totally different theme in the movie "Man's Search for Happiness," and didn't think of it at all as being about what heaven is like. But I should not have then lumped you in with those who intentionally twist church teachings out of context.

I am mostly sorry that my response seemed to cement what you already believed.

I hope you'll forgive me.

I hope you will accept an apology vicariously. Please remember your enthusiasm for things you felt strongly about when you were young, and remember the young man who "damned" you was young, too. Forgive him for his enthusiasm, and please don't let it keep you from further investigating the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
There was a church-produced movie called "Man's Search for Happiness" that portrayed the premortal, mortal, and post-mortal existence of man. I don't know if it was supposed to portray "exactly" what heaven would be like, but I remember it was a beautiful reassurance that we would be able to see our loved ones again. I believe it also talked about the rewards/consequences of obedience and disobedience in mortality.
Remembering Heavenly Father's plan for His children reassures me that President Hinckley has been reunited with his sweetheart. It reminds me that the Savior came so that we could learn how to live, and so that we could repent for our mistakes. I am so grateful for that plan that gives this life purpose, and the next life hope!

President Hinckley was a magnanimous leader in a time when the World has cast away the very basic civilities we owe one another. His passing is mourned by those of us who loved him and cherished his every deed of inspiration. He motivated the World to practice inclusion and tolerance while compelling us to hold on to the values that have made our Country great. As a Native American Indian from a heritage of people long gone from history, and almost forgotten, I take comfort in knowing that President Hinckley never forgot the wonderful original Americans of the great horse culture of the 19th Century. His dignity and aplomb in showing respect, deference , and sorrow for the plight of America's American Indians was in his nature. He had great and abiding respect for the Native American cultures. I will forever remember this magnificent Prophet, Seer, President of this Church in this the last Dispensation of our time. He was to the manner born.

I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove him. with 97 os that is all word can express for me.
Zarry, from port-au-price haiti north stake

LAST SUNDAY JANUARY 27, AT 8;00PM, I CHECK MY ACCOUNT IN MYSPACE, I SAW A NEW POST BULITTEN THAT PRESIDENT GORDON B. HINCKLEY PASS AWAY, I TURN ON THE TV UTAH CHANNEL, THEY ARE FEATURING PRESIDENT HINCKLEY DEAD, I WAS SO SHOCK, I FELT SAD AT THAT MOMENT, SINCE THEN, UNTIL NOW FELT SAME FELLING, WE KNOW WHERE HE IS GOING, HE IS SAFE THERE IN THE SIDE OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, I FELT IMOTIONALLY, AND BRING TEARS IN MY EYE, I KNOW HE IS A MAN OF GOD, AS A LDS MEMBER, WE HONOR HIM, AS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD, WE WILL MISS HIS MESSAGE DURING CONFERENCE, THE LDS MEMBERS WHOLE WORLD WILL MISS HIM. I KNOW ONE DAY WE WILL SEE HIM AGAIN, IN THE JUDGEMENT BAR OF GOD, I LEAVE THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AMEN.

The Lord has 100 Names, not 99!

The New Name For Eclat+i is "Eponymous-Eclat"!

Praise The Holy-No-man! ECLATi-ON's, not Off's are Together Forever With SOURCE-ONE!

Gordan B. Hinckley, A great High Priest has returned to his Eternal Father. I am greatful to have lived during his service here on eath.

Gordan B. Hinckley, A great High Priest has returned to his Eternal Father. I am greatful to have lived during his service here on eath.

Another note to general reader:
Since I was among those who had questioned David Weiss' statement, I was very appreciative of being able to correspond with him recently, and also of his clarification in his later comment about the "missionary" (probably a "stake missionary" since David described an older man who visited his home.) David was very kind to respond to my apology to him. I now make a "public" apology for my misunderstanding. I can imagine that a "stake missionary" could have made such a mistake in teaching in the 1960's, but I'm hopeful that full-time missionaries today are better instructed and understand the doctrines of the gospel better. David is a very kind and thoughtful person, genuine to the core. Have a good evening, all.

OoooPppSSaaadaisy.

WOW!

Please see 'Moderators' blog @ Sistar(s) Claire Hoffman's linko on the subject HUNGER and search for the , not Grail, but "HOLY-Foreskin" of Mr. Rabbi JE-Zeus Christ , hoping for ever lasting Life!!

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2008/01/bodily_broodings.html

Happy Every Day!

Pres. Hinckley was always an inspiration to me. He was always aiming higher and expanding. The fact that he did this up until his death is miraculous. He spoke in my buddies home ward the Sunday before his death to rededicate a special chapel associated with Brigham Young. I admire his wisdom in trying to get members out and involved in community service and in politics. The prophet was a public relations genius. Kofi Annan, secretary general, of the United Nations visited him in Salt Lake City. Pres. Hinckley graciously hosted the Dali Lama when he came to Utah. He left a legacy and example that all of us can follow without excuse as most of us are much younger than he was so he made age no excuse. Great things are yet to come with the next prophet. The church has never received so much attention as now. May we be strong examples to the world and stand up for our beliefs.

Hate to do this in a public forum, but all of you members who are castigating/questioning David Weiss are either completely clueless or intentionally sticking your head in the sand. Hello, how many times have we said "If the Church wasn't true, the missionaries would have destroyed it long ago." We were 19-21 year old guys, and until recently there was very little "weeding out" of those who shouldn't have served. Most of us tried to do what was right, but I can picture a number of guys I served with who easily could have made the statement David recites, whether due to misunderstanding of the gospel, or due to the pressure they felt from their mission president to make numbers.

David, I have no reason to doubt your statement. Realize that whoever made it was not only wrong for trying such a tactic, but also wrong per the doctrine of the LDS church.

God be with you.

I Will miss our beloved prophet, he was a great man he lived great and died great. His devotion and love to the Savior glowed from his being.
He truly was a prophet of the Lord his love and teachings will always be in the hearts of all who heard his words. I know that he will receive his glory and is back in the arms of his Beloved wife Marjorie. He will welcome us all when our time comes. I look forward to the day we will meet again. Till we meet agin at the saviours feet. My love and thoughts are with his family.
Love and prayers from the saints in the United Kingdom

I Will miss our beloved prophet, he was a great man he lived great and died great. His devotion and love to the Savior glowed from his being.
He truly was a prophet of the Lord his love and teachings will always be in the hearts of all who heard his words. I know that he will receive his glory and is back in the arms of his Beloved wife Marjorie. He will welcome us all when our time comes. I look forward to the day we will meet again. Till we meet agin at the saviours feet. My love and thoughts are with his family.
Love and prayers from the saints in the United Kingdom

I took the oppurtunity to re-read the last talks given by President Hinckley in the October 2007 General Conference. I loved him and will miss him. I praise God for His plan and to have been a witness of a living prophet. I just wanted to bear my witness that President Hinckley was a prophet of God. He taught throught inspiration from the Almighty and he lived a life worthy to be called a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, by all who encountered him. I am grateful for those last words of testimony about the restoration of the Gospel and the challenge to eradicate anger from our hearts. I pray that I can honor the teachings of President Hinckley by bearing witness of the truth, as it has been revealed unto me and by extending more love and tolorance to those all around me.
When a young Jospeh Smith was seeking help and answers about truth and salvation from his family, his father is reported to have told him, I don't think God intends to save just a few of his children. May anyone with similar questions today, feel the love of Jesus Christ pierce their heart and be aware of the love that God has for them. This is the type of love that has grown in my heart as I have strived to understand and live the gospel of Jesus Christ and to heed the messages given by Jesus Christ through his servant, the prophet.

I give my warmest regards to all who have posted, as I know that each and every one has a desire to help others gain eternal life. Because of that, I am confident that each would have enjoyed the oppurtunity to know President Hinckley, who I know shared the same goal.

In tribute to a great man I express the following to the individuals who through closed, unchristianlike minds choose to post unfounded lies and advance further misconceptions about a faith that in FACT is founded on Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and Salvation only in and through His Holy name. Mormons are often misunderstood about their ideas about Faith & Works. Surely many quote the same ole scriptures in James about Faith without works etc. IN truth Mormons who try to live what they believe just happen to DO MORE WORKS than the average disciple of Christ but not because we think we are WORKING our way to heaven but because we Love the Savior and our Father in Heaven so much and want to be like them in some ways we just give service, we to love our neighbors, help a friend, we believe and understand that loving the Lord and knowing of His great atoning sacrafice for mankind requires someting of us because of what we know. No one can earn their way into heaven because none are good enough. No matter how we try, what we DO or how many good works we participate in we are still imperfect and sinners and because of this our ONLY HOPE is through the Merits and Mercy of Him who Saves - even Jesus Christ. President Hinkley believed this, taught this to the world and lived what he believed. I would tell any who are ignorant to the truth that any Mormon person who tells you they are saved by their works DO NOT understand the true tenants of their faith. And anyone who is not a member of the LDS Church and spouts ignorantly about the horrid mormon cult who they like to demean and say are not Christians because I guess this makes them somehow feel justified in their attitudes and hatred - but those who fit this sad category obviously refuse to really want to hear and see the truth about what the Mormon people believe. Anyone who truly know them knows differently. Remember this brother.... the Truth will indeed Set you Free and President Hinkley testified often and strongly about His faith, His love, His testimony of the Savior Jesus Christ. We loved him, We love the Savior and we indeed BELIEVE HIM when He told us that He CAN and WILL Save us not only from our sins, but in our sins as well. God Bless.

In tribute to a great man I express the following to the individuals who through closed, unchristianlike minds choose to post unfounded lies and advance further misconceptions about a faith that in FACT is founded on Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and Salvation only in and through His Holy name. Mormons are often misunderstood about their ideas about Faith & Works. Surely many quote the same ole scriptures in James about Faith without works etc. IN truth Mormons who try to live what they believe just happen to DO MORE WORKS than the average disciple of Christ but not because we think we are WORKING our way to heaven but because we Love the Savior and our Father in Heaven so much and want to be like them in some ways we just give service, we to love our neighbors, help a friend, we believe and understand that loving the Lord and knowing of His great atoning sacrafice for mankind requires someting of us because of what we know. No one can earn their way into heaven because none are good enough. No matter how we try, what we DO or how many good works we participate in we are still imperfect and sinners and because of this our ONLY HOPE is through the Merits and Mercy of Him who Saves - even Jesus Christ. President Hinkley believed this, taught this to the world and lived what he believed. I would tell any who are ignorant to the truth that any Mormon person who tells you they are saved by their works DO NOT understand the true tenants of their faith. And anyone who is not a member of the LDS Church and spouts ignorantly about the horrid mormon cult who they like to demean and say are not Christians because I guess this makes them somehow feel justified in their attitudes and hatred - but those who fit this sad category obviously refuse to really want to hear and see the truth about what the Mormon people believe. Anyone who truly know them knows differently. Remember this brother.... the Truth will indeed Set you Free and President Hinkley testified often and strongly about His faith, His love, His testimony of the Savior Jesus Christ. We loved him, We love the Savior and we indeed BELIEVE HIM when He told us that He CAN and WILL Save us not only from our sins, but in our sins as well. God Bless.

A remarkable man for all seasons who influenced the world community and the church for good by declaring and living positive values, respecting all people, uplifting everyone he met and actively living a Christ centered life.

This tribute to pres.Gordon B. Hinkley was wonderful, it showed a glimps of the love he had for all mankind , he truly was a prophet of god.welcome home bro.Hinkley....

President Hinckley was a wonderful man who radiated kindness, humor, generosity, faith and warmth. To many people of LDS faith, he was like a grandfather--wise, patient and always loving. I had the chance to shake his had years ago, and I will not forget the way that he smiled and the goodness that emanated from him. We will all miss him, but know that his life of sacrifice and caring will continue to provide inspiration for all time. We love you President Hinckley, and know that you are surrounded by your wife and other loved ones. Thank you for being a great man and an example of a true Christian.

President Hinckley was a great man. He always told us that we need to be friendly, tolerant and respectful with all people who isn't from our faith...and that is wath the LDS try to do, to be people who love and serve anothers.
I live in the south of Argentine and we are thankfull for the teachings, and the example from this great man of God

We miss you in Australia Mike. And, of course, we miss dear President Gordan B. Hinckley already too. He was a good man to mankind (if we will only listen and follow his good works and example), we will get to know and understand this fact.

May we remember the life and goodness of ALL 'good men' AND women everywhere!

President Hinckley touched my life and prompted me to be a better person. He will be missed beyond belief but his legacy will live on. He definantly left his mark of goodness on the people of this world.

Just to express condolence to my beloved and loving prophet President gordon B. Hinckley. surely i missed him very much. everytime i saw him in the conferenc. I gained spirtual strength and loved everytime i heard him expressing his gratitude to all mankind for the prayers for him
Imissed you very much presidnt hinkckley.
I know your wife and family will rejoicing to welcoming you in the spirit world.

I wanna express my sincere condolence to you my beloved prophet.
god be with you till we meet again.
sincerely,
Bro.Vince Dequinan
Philippines

Dear Mr Otterson

At the passing of Mr Gordon Hinckley, the President of LDS, my heartfelt condolences to you, the family, friends and Church members. May you and the rest experience not just sadness at the passing of such a great soul, but also celebrate his wonderful life which glorified God, the Father of us all.

Soja John Thaikattil
Sydney, Australia

Thank you,

@ Kerusso --

Thank you so much for reminding us that it is by Christ's grace that we are saved -- that our actions don't "earn" us a place in heaven. That is very true, and too often I get caught up in life & forget to always keep that at the forefront of my mind. But that doesn't mean as you say that "unfortunately most Mormons believe they are working their way into Heaven." That is an over-generalization, and really not very accurate. We believe that it is by His grace, and not our actions, that we are saved. Of course, God commands us to do certain things (repent always, be baptized, love God & our fellow man, etc) -- and we would prove that our faith in Christ's grace is false if we did not strive with all our intent to do those things. But I think we're splitting hairs here --- we basically believe what you (and James the disciple) are saying, to show your faith by your works. That your works don't save, but if you really have faith then your works will reflect that. And I think that one of the key legacies of Pres. Hinckley is that he encouraged us all to live what we believe. To not just believe in Christ but to also remember to show our faith with our actions. So while we strive to obey Christ's commandments with our actions, I think we all know that it is NOT our actions that save us -- it is the Savior's infinite atonement for our sins that saves.

President Gordon B. Hinckley was truly a gentlemen and scholar in every sense of the meaning. I remember sitting with him at a dinner table in Costa Rica. He took the time to address and know something about everyone around the table. He was genuine and loving. He made everyone feel important at every level yet so refined. He had strong, timeless values in a changing world of morals. He will be deeply missed, but his legacy will live for generations to come.

President Gordon B. Hinckley was truly a gentlemen and scholar in every sense of the meaning. I remember sitting with him at a dinner table in Costa Rica. He took the time to address and know something about everyone around the table. He was genuine and loving. He made everyone feel important at every level yet so refined. He had strong, timeless values in a changing world of morals. He will be deeply missed, but his legacy will live for generations to come.

the world lost a brilliant and generosity man.

the world lost a brilliant and generosity man.

President Gordon B Hinckley was an inspirational leader to many throughout the world. It is with the sure knowledge that we will see him again that we acknowledge all that good that he has done in the world. The initiative of the youth to pay their respect is but one of the many examples of how he was able to touch the hearts of many right across all age groups. He will be remembered as a man of infinite worth and integrity. We thank him for his undying leadership and commitment to families and to do what is right for all peoples and all nations. Our lives have been blessed through his leadership and commitment to our Heavenly Fathers plan.

From the shores of Aotearoa, New Zealand we say thank you for your tribute and recognition of Prophet Gordon B Hinckley.

What a wonderful missionary opportunity this article has become!

For David, I'm fairly well versed in LDS film history, but even so I haven't seen everything that the LDS Church has produced. Sounds like the film you may have seen was called "Man's Search for Happiness", the 1964 version.

And to answer your question, you are most definitely not going to outer darkness for having declined the missionaries invitations to learn more.

To paraphase a verse of our "Mormon" scripture, to the members of the Church we speak by way of commandment, but to those who are not members of our church we speak by way of invitation.

Thank you for your patience with us, David, and thank you for your postings.

Best,
Brent

My father has worked in the capacity of raising funds for programs of the LDS church such as the home building project for people in Indonesia who lost their homes in the Tsunami, the well digging program for communities in Africa to provide people with fresh water, neo-natal recussitation programs to teach medical personnel to save the lives of newborn babies, and a wheelchair initiative to provide wheelchairs for people all across the world who haven't access to them. These programs of service and love for our fellow humanity were programs created or expanded by President Hinckley. His love for all people of all nationalities and faiths was evident in his words and in his works. His tireless service to others is an example for all but especially members as he asked us to be a little kinder and to reach out to all people in friendship. Whatever your thoughts of this church and its doctrine--this is a man of kindness, service and dedication to lifting others temporally and spiritually. Whatever your thoughts on The Church, please know what kind of a man it is that we honor.

My father has worked in the capacity of raising funds for programs of the LDS church such as the home building project for people in Indonesia who lost their homes in the Tsunami, the well digging program for communities in Africa to provide people with fresh water, neo-natal recussitation programs to teach medical personnel to save the lives of newborn babies, and a wheelchair initiative to provide wheelchairs for people all across the world who haven't access to them. These programs of service and love for our fellow humanity were programs created or expanded by President Hinckley. His love for all people of all nationalities and faiths was evident in his words and in his works. His tireless service to others is an example for all but especially members as he asked us to be a little kinder and to reach out to all people in friendship. Whatever your thoughts of this church and its doctrine--this is a man of kindness, service and dedication to lifting others temporally and spiritually. Whatever your thoughts on The Church, please know what kind of a man it is that we honor.

Like many others that have posted comments, I too was able to see the Prophet speak in New Orleans, Louisiana about 5 years ago. In no way can I deny the Spirit that filled the auditorium when he entered. The ENTIRE congregation stood and sang "We Thank Thee O God, For a Prophet", and even my rebellious, 13 year old son admitted to me later that the experience was "awesome, Mom!"

He was a great leader, and I will be forever thankful that he was able to remind my children and me to "Be Prayerful, Be Grateful, Be Humble, Be Clean, and Be True" on a daily basis. The positive effects of his teachings and his example will be felt throughout eternity.

As to the "foundations of Mormonism"... What a strong foundation it is! Anyone who has done their "religious homework" knows that the LDS church is built upon the example and teachings of Jesus Christ. Always has been, and will be - and I am so grateful to be a part of it!

Best of the best in examples, word and deed. You are the best friend any one can have. You have touched my life more than you will ever know. Rest in peace my dear prophet, seer and revelator. I will miss you for the rest of my days upon this earth.

My late step-father was an elder in the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) of the Utah sect, and his family has always treated me as though I were a flesh and blood relative. My adopted kin live in Utah, Arizona and Nevada.

I attended service in the Mormon church for years, but I do not accept the faith as valid.

Nonetheless, I recall with fondness how very kind and charitable most everyone in the church is. A typical example is watching an elder order some young men to go to a widow's house and make certain that she had coal in the cellar for the winter and food in her cupboard. Mormon wards (churches) are very much like family gatherings. Everybody looks after everybody else with a wonderful sense of community.

Their youth programs are superlative. I had a lot of fun on many, many occasions.

The fact that I am not Mormon does not preclude me from loving my Mormon family.

My personal experiences persuade me that President Hinckley was as kind as he was venerated.

"What is desired in a man is kindness." [Proverbs]

Apparently the Prophet Hinckley was a good and gracious man. Reality forces us, however, to drop the Prophet designation based on the founder and foundations of Mormonism.

The kids weren't just wearing Sunday Best in SLC. I teach early morning Seminary in Dublin, Califronia, and half the class had gotten the text and was wearing a shirt and tie! It was my first day of teaching the class, and I asked one of them, oh gosh do I have to wear that to Seminary?!? He quickly explained the tribute.

President Hinckley was and is a good man. His life was patterned in a manner like unto our Savior. He was the type who stopped for the sparrows as well as the individual. With his trademark humor and wit he delivered inspired advice that touched the heart as well as the soul. He was faithful in all things and has finally earned his reward and even now, is reunited with family and friends long gone from our mortal plane. As a man I admired him, as a prophet of the living God I honored him. And now he is finally home, in the place reserved for the Prophets of the most high from Adam on down to our time. May we all remember and strive to follow the example, of such a great man.

Arnold Burr

I respect and honor your belief in your church, though I no longer share it.

But I do share your esteem for a great and honorable man who dedicated his life to what he saw as God's work, and to helping his fellow human beings.
Such men should be honored by us all, Mormon or not.

Henry

The first time I viewed the October General Conference in October 2006 I witnessed the testimony of President Gordon B. Hinckley I was deeply moved by his commitment to the world and of all humanity. I knew then that he was the true prophet of the world and I had no reservations of joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for I knew that this was the true church and that its gospel was full and complete; that this was the gospel of Jesus Christ, restored upon this earth by the prophet Joseph Smith through his vision. Also, the eternal priesthood was bestowed upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery to restore on this earth the authority to expand the works of the Heavenly Father and to bear witness that this gospel will never perish from the earth, ever again. As priesthood holders, we will protect these ordinances with our lives if necessary, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!

to all thanks for your comments.

Henry James-

Thank you for your nice thoughts.

Gordon B. Hinckley was a very special man and was an example to all of us.

He taught us to be better and to love all!! If we could do that we wouldnt have situations like the one David had.

We are not perfect. Some of us are less then Christlike. Let us all follow GBH example and become more caring toward all around us.

Sorry for writing in Spanish. I could do it in English, but I will be able to express my feelings better in Spanish.

Tuve la oportunidad de aprender mucho del Pres. Hinckley, de hecho traduje para el cuando dedicó el templo en Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep.

Casi cada dia oigo sus discursos, yo se que era un Profeta de Dios, predicó el evangelio verdadero, vivio como un santo y sus eneseñanzas seguirán cambiando muchas vidas aun mucho más alla de su muerte.

Thanks you Lord for giving me the opportunity of living during time Pres. Hinckley was the voice of God on heart. He will be remembered.

Thanks you all for your comments. JCA

Soory for writing in Spanish. I could do it in Englsih but I will be able to express my feeling better.

Tuve la oportunidad de aprender mucho del Pres. Hinckleym de hecho traduje para el cuando dedico el templo en Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep.

Casi cada dia hoigo sus discurso, yo se que era un Profeta de Dios, predico el evangelio verdadero, vivio como un santo y sus eneseñanzas seguiran cambiando muchas vidas aun mucho mas alla de su muerte.

Thanks you Lord and giving the oportunity during time Pres. Hinckley was the voice of God on heart. He will be remembered.

Thanks you all for your comments. JCA

I'm so glad to see that the tone of this forum has changed over the last several hours. We are here to express our feelings toward our beloved prophet, nothing else.
Gordon B. Hinckley has been such a force for good on this earth. He has shown us how to be better people, better members, better fathers and mothers. What can one say about this man that hasn't already been said? If you get the chance, read his book 'Way To Be'. Another one is 'Stand A Little Taller'.
Truly, he is a man of God. His teachings and inspiration have had such a positive impact on me and my family, I am truly grateful for his hard work and his examples of how to love one another, and serve one another.
Because of him we have Temples all over the world, that will bless the lives of countless families and individuals.
Thank You, President Hinckley, for all of your hard work, for your love of your Heavenly Father, and your love for all of us here on earth.

P.S. At the end of General Conference last fall, when you said that you hoped to see us again in the spring.........we hoped to see you too.
Now we have to wait a little longer..........

As a person who grew up in the Mormon church
and whose ancestors included Brigham Young's second counselor,
and who is no longer a practicing Mormon.

I salute Gordon B Hinckley as a kind and gentle and loving man, a good man who dedicated his life to a cause much greater than himself.

Whatever differences we all might have with Mormon beliefs, Hinckley deserves our great respect and admiration for his dedication and kindness.

He had a lot of the spirit of the lovely David O McKay, the Mormon leader of my youth, who was a generous and courtly and gracious man.

Hail to thee, GBH. May you rest in peace after a life of good work.

Henry

I have loved a prophet of the Lord and truly mourn his passing. Who else could have gotten the youth of the Church to dress up and go to school out of respect? I love these stories. It puts a whole new slant on how much he meant to all of us. Thank you for your loving memories of our dear prophet.

David,
(first, just a thought
With the age of the missinoary I wonder if it may have been the reformed LDS church?)

We may never know.

But I think that President Hinckley would say something to the effect - come visit with us again we welcome you with the open arms of love. If someone has hurt you let us mend your heart and soul. You are my brother and I don't want to have this barrier between us. We are always striving to be Christ like but do fall very short. Grant us with forgiveness as Christ grants forgiveness.

President Hinckley was a man who knew no stranger he loved all even the ones who tried to challenge his beliefs. I strive to follow his example.

I can promise you that to make it to outer darkness you would have to make it your life long goal, and it would still be extremely hard to be cast to outer darkness so you can lay your fears to rest with that.

I loved Pres. Hinkley and his view of the church and the people who represent it, it was all about being a better person and loving one another. He really made me appreciate the 11th Article of Faith: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

Condolences send to President Hinckley's family. A man of God called to serve us in this era. We will greatly miss you and I am so greatful to be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint. We are so greatful for all your advices and revelation especially at this time where the 72 hour pack is in use. We were just hit by a cyclone on Monday 28th in our small island of Fiji... and we are using our 72 hour pack and welfare..... All schools are close, there is no water, no electricity, shops closed yet we are surviving using whatever we have pack in our small kits.
A man of God and we loved you so dearly, we will miss you and we know in our hearts that your soul will rest in peace.
Our prayers are with his family.....

My last comment would be to say to Mr. Weiss that if you read some of the quotes from President Hinckley listed in this article I think you would realize that he was the kind of man and kind of leader who was trying to steer the members of the church away from the kinds of attitudes that you describe in your encounter.

A lot of the respect that I feel for President Hinckley comes from the fact that he was honest enough to admit that the Latter Day Saints still have a lot of work to do in order to live up to the principles that we learn and teach and he consistently challenged us to do so. We have to face facts though, that President Hinckley would not have felt the need to keep reminding us about how we should behave if situations like, or at least similar to, what Mr. Weiss has described have never happened.

As another commenter pointed out though, there is so much deliberate misinformation about the Church being put out that it’s no wonder that we get a little bit defensive. Just Google Mormon Church and myths or rumors and the stuff that comes up is just outrageous. But I think that if we honor the guidance President Hinckley consistently conveyed to us it won’t be long before people begin to see through blatantly dishonest rumors and slanders and view the kinds of situations that Mr. Weiss describes as isolated incidents and misunderstandings. Or on the other hand we can get defensive and try to shout down everyone who brings up a negative experience that they feel the need to talk about and probably cause a lot of people to wonder if maybe some of it is true.

It is nice to meet some of these Mormons that are nice. So far I've been called a liar, a hallucinator, and condemned now to hell.
I didn't mean to hurt anyones feelings. The missionary that condemned me to the Outer Darkness was an older gentleman and not one of these younger missionaries. The time frame was in the mid-60's. I feel that condemning two curious teenagers to the Outer Darkness for not accepting the Mormon teachings as truth is child abuse. But I won't dwell on it anymore.

Some of these Mormons on this site need to look in their hearts and practice love and compassion. I realize that all Christians are not perfect but the teaching of compassion and love for your neighbor is the foundation of Christ's message. If you perceive me as your enemy then you should give me love.

David:

I can think of no LDS movie that tells what heaven is like. Do you remember anything else from the film...? Perhaps you are remembering one part out of context and that is what has many here wondering, because they truly do not recognize what you describe....

So, was there a "scene" in the movie, say, that depicted a heavenly moment...?

The only thing that I can remotely think of that "might" fit your description was a scene from "Man's Search for Happiness," when the Grandfather died. There was a scene, totally figurative, where the deceased grandfather then walks to the other side and is greeted by his long deceased wife and other family and friends.

If that was the film of which you speak, well, it is understandable that no Mormon would recognize it from your description, because it was about the Purpose of Life, not about what heaven is like. Actually, it was not intended to describe heaven in any way, except for the part that you will be reunited with your family.

Does that ring a bell?

I am a covert to the church and have never had the opportunity to meet President Hinckley. Yet, I knew he was a prophet of God and I loved him. I was surprised at the level of emotion I felt when the news reached our family of his passing. We will mourn but know he is now with his dear wife in paradise. A great man has left us ,but he will be replaced by another and the the Lord's church will continue as before. My condolences go out to the family.

Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet Beloved of the Saints and the world, we will miss you a great man who was sent here to change lives and bring us closer to Christ. Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ rejoice as your coming home to live with God forever and be our judge of this dispensation. We love you and your sweeet wife great example setters of a Perfect Family for eternity. God Bless your soul and the things you taught us will live forever.

"Our Fading Civility......Civility carries with it the essence of courtesy, politeness, and consideration of others. All of the education and accomplishments in the world will not count for much unless they are accompanied by marks of gentility, of respect for others, of going the extra mile." Gordon B. Hinckley

'Nuff said.

President Gordon B Hinckley was trully a wonderful man of God. He loved the children and youth of the world. He always encouraged us to Stand a Little Taller, be a little kinder, and little gentler. He was trully an inspiration to all of us who had the honor of listening to his words of inspiration from a Father who loves His children.
Our prayers are with his family.

President Gordon B Hinckley was a man who showed a great way to love under all circumstances. He trully loved the youth and children of the world. He always spoke so highly of the youth. He always encouraged us to Stand a Little Taller, be a littler kinder, a littler gentler. What a great examlpe of a Man of God!!!!!!
Thank you to his family and our prayers are with them.

That was cool. Just hope your interactions are positive going forward. I was not there and did not witness such a sharp close-out in the 100+ missionary lessons I participated in during my mission. You have my apology for what it is worth.

Missionaries are taught that contention is a tool of satan. Learning by the proper spirit does not occur when feelings are hurt. When a lesson gets contentious it is time to request a prayer in good faith and close the meeting.

Conversion is not a battle of wits, but a humble request for spiritual confirmation of divine actions (miracles, golden plates, testimony, healings, end to famine, floods, messengers from heaven, prophets)

We have great faith in those 19-23 year old missionaries, do some make mistakes? um YES!

Only, God and his son Jesus Christ have the responsibility to judge us all. No one else can tell you where you will go....people may still speculate, but it counts for little. Wherever you go, I hope it is excellent as we may be there together.

It saddens me tremendously to say this but David Weiss’s story is not the first time that I have heard of that kind of encounter with the missionaries. Except the movie, I don’t know where he is getting that from. But I do know at least one other man who was threatened with Outer Darkness for rejecting the truth and I am quite certain that he had no reason to make up a story like that. Just not in his nature, although I do make room for the possibility of a misunderstanding.

I currently attend a ward that sees a lot of missionaries come through- as many as three to four pairs at a time who are usually switched out as often as every other month. I have had the opportunity to get to know some truly amazing young men but also a couple that I wouldn’t trust out of my sight. I’ve had to swat down a number of strange statements and misunderstandings between missionaries and members or investigators, although none quite as bad as what Mr. Weiss is describing. I know that the Church has sought to raise the bar on accepting missionaries (which itself implies that there have been problems in the past) in recent years but let’s face it- there are still some out there who have never seriously, prayerfully studied the scriptures or doctrines and are only on a mission because they feel pressured or obligated to do so. I had such great missionaries visit me that I was very surprised when I discovered that not all of them are like that.

I will definitely miss President Hinckley. He brought tremendous insight into our situation in the world. The quote in the article above- that much of the misunderstanding of the Latter Day Saints is of our own making- should be cause for some serious self-reflection. Truly, how many people in the world today ever stop to think “What if that was my fault?”

Mr. Weiss, I have no idea if the anecdote you related is accurate or not, but in case it is then I can only say that I am sorry that you had a bad experience. For what it’s worth I would have walked out too. Fortunately I had a much better encounter. Plus, I am too suspicious by nature to take anyone’s word for it anyway and did a lot of independent investigation on my own.

In any case, Mr. Hinckley was one of the good ones and deserves just a little bit of respect here regardless of whether or not others associated with him might have behaved poorly.

It saddens me tremendously to say this but David Weiss’s story is not the first time that I have heard of that kind of encounter with the missionaries. Except the movie, I don’t know where he is getting that from. But I do know at least one other man who was threatened with Outer Darkness for rejecting the truth and I am quite certain that he had no reason to make up a story like that. Just not in his nature, although I do make room for the possibility of a misunderstanding.

I currently attend a ward that sees a lot of missionaries come through- as many as three to four pairs at a time who are usually switched out as often as every other month. I have had the opportunity to get to know some truly amazing young men but also a couple that I wouldn’t trust out of my sight. I’ve had to swat down a number of strange statements and misunderstandings between missionaries and members or investigators, although none quite as bad as what Mr. Weiss is describing. I know that the Church has sought to raise the bar on accepting missionaries (which itself implies that there have been problems in the past) in recent years but let’s face it- there are still some out there who have never seriously, prayerfully studied the scriptures or doctrines and are only on a mission because they feel pressured or obligated to do so. I had such great missionaries visit me that I was very surprised when I discovered that not all of them are like that.

I will definitely miss President Hinckley. He brought tremendous insight into our situation in the world. The quote in the article above- that much of the misunderstanding of the Latter Day Saints is of our own making- should be cause for some serious self-reflection. Truly, how many people in the world today ever stop to think “What if that was my fault?”

Mr. Weiss, I have no idea if the anecdote you related is accurate or not, but in case it is then I can only say that I am sorry that you had a bad experience. For what it’s worth I would have walked out too. Fortunately I had a much better encounter. Plus, I am too suspicious by nature to take anyone’s word for it anyway and did a lot of independent investigation on my own.

In any case, Mr. Hinckley was one of the good ones and deserves just a little bit of respect here regardless of whether or not others associated with him might have behaved poorly.

I'm glad that David was honest enough to admit that the situation I explained happened.

I'm sorry that Mr. Hinkley has died and I'll take your word that he was a great man.

I'm not attacking the Mormon religion, you have to understand. I find it interesting - a genuine American religion. I'm a history buff and can appreciate the place the Mormons have had in our history.

I think what I want, and why I brought this conversion gone bad up, is an apology and an assurance that I'm not going to the Outer Darkness.

Please, no hate mail

My address is dweiss1868@earthlink.net

David Weiss, the fact that you have desecrated this site thus proves that those men were correct, you will burn in hell.

Gordon B. Hinckley was one of the greatest men of our time. It can be argued that no other man living in this era has touched more lives than he.
This world will morn his passing as he will be greatly missed.

What a wonderful tribute to a most exceptional man! What a glorious day in heaven it must have been!

Maybe you are telling the truth. As a missionary i never condemned anyone to outer darkness, but there have been many many mormon missionaries. I suppose your story could be true. But if it is true, I am sorry that they treated you poorly.

Also, you must understand though that there are people who do just like you have been accused of doing; lying about their experiences with mormons in order to make them look bad or at least worse. We have been facing this for years, so forgive us if our reaction to an honest story is disbelief since it has been our experience that most of those stories are false or exaggerated.

Don't blame a dog for biting you when everyone around him is beating it. He may think you are trying to beat it too.

But also, why don't you wait for a more appropriate time and forum for your story? I find it actually kind of disgusting that you wouldn't wait til later.

Thankyou for sharing this whith us, I think we all should do the same thing, to pay tribute to Gordon B. Hinckley what a wonderfull men

Thankyou for sharing this whith us, I think we all should do the same thing, to pay tribute to Gordon B. Hinckley what a wonderfull men

To those people who have taken the argument to the man:

I and a friend saw the film of what it was like to be in heaven shown to us by a missionary. I and my friend were cast into the "Outer Darkness" because we chose not to join the church after hearing the "Truth".

Why is this so hard to believe? What profit would I have in telling a story ? If you don't believe it why do you attack me? You all don't know me or anything about me. But I am learning about you all. The Mormons don't want to talk about the negative things about their Church. In defending their church they slander those who tell the truth.

If any of you people that doubt what I say would be willing to meet me and talk and see for yourselves that I am an honest man.

But when you discuss your religion you shouldn't slander persons when they have had negative experiences with the Morman Church. When you do it shows makes a black mark for your religion.

I just don't think President Hinckley would have considered the saints "ordinary People". I really feel that he, himself, thought he was just like everybody else. Thanks. Madelyn

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

President Gordon B. Hinckley was truly a prophet of all man-kind; yet, he was to most of us "my prophet". That was the miracle of the man - he loved collectively and individually. To us, he truly exemplified the love of our Savior, Jesus the Christ, more than anyone we have personally known. We were sitting in the Henry B. Gonzales Auditorium when he came to San Antonio, TX to encourage us to work towards having a temple in San Antonio; he left promising we would have one! In the momentousness of the occasion, he heard a young voice practicing quietly in the corner of the risers behind him. As she quietly sang her part for assurance, she felt she had to look up. There, 30 feet from her, the Prophet of the Lord, and her brother, was smiling right into her eyes! He waved at her and raised his right thumb in a sign of encouragement and approval! What a cherished moment in her life and ours. We so loved and will always love and remember the great, giving, loving man, as well as prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley!

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

This amazing gesture by our youth does not surprise me. This is who we are and what a blessing to belong to such a loving, wonderful church. Our Prohet will be deeply missed. It's hard to express the kind of love and admiration we all have for him. No one who hasn't experienced it can begin to relate. PRAISE TO THE MAN WHO COMMUNED WITH JEHOVAH!

Here'a a nice pictorial. I got kinda choked up.... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZ662j7QyQ

President Hinckley was an exemplarly leader who will be remembered churchwide and world wide for his wisdom, grace, charity, humor and unfailing Christ-like demeanor. May we all strive to live like this man did, because truly then we will be like our Savior.

President Hinckley exemplified what is truly meant by "faith without works is dead" by having faith in our Savior Jesus Christ, knowing that by Him, through Him, and of Him all things are possible, but then doing Gordon's part - drafting smaller temple plans, traveling around the world to spread the Gospel, exhibiting kindness to everyone, sitting for interviews with men like Larry King and Mike Wallace, etc, etc. etc. We have to do our part by trusting Christ, believing Him and doing His work. That is what is meant by "faith without works is dead." You can profess all you want that Jesus is the Christ, it will get you no where if you don't actually live the Gospel and obey His commandments and do His work.

President Hinckley will be greatly missed, but how thankful I am to know that he still lives, as my Savior does and that he is reunited with his dear sweet wife, never to be parted again. That the Church and the Gospel will continue under new, divinely appointed leadership. What a wonderful plan God has designed for his children.

David Weiss:

I haven't read through all the posts yet, so perhaps someone has already addressed your post.

I am not sure what would motivate you to post something so blatantly false. We both know there is no such movie, especially since Mormons don't even claim to know exactly what heaven is like.

Nor do I buy your claim that a missionary threatened you with "Outer Darkness" if you did not agree to be baptized, because, quite frankly, Mormons don't believe that non-Mormons are condemned to Outer Darkness -- or even what you would call hell for that matter.

It's not our doctrine. Hell for non-believers is a doctrine of other churches, not the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. And Outer Darkness is categorically not a place for non-believers. By definition, it is not!

Perhaps you have distorted and embellished a memory you once had and it serves you better in its present form and in the company you now keep. There are sadly a good number of people who like to hear outrageous things about Mormons and are quite disappointed to find out otherwise. "Memories" like these are very popular in these circles -- more popular than saying, "Well, these missionaries wanted to convert me, but I said no, so they said they were sad and walked away."

I am guessing the embellishment was a gradual thing. Once you found you were getting points and lots of praise the more wild the story got, it was probably pretty easy to make the memory work for you.

I'd recommend that you not pander to these paeople and take your integrity back. If you only have a boring story to tell them about your near-conversion, so be it.

Otterson is "director of media relations for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" -
What a conflict of interest! Why was this uncritical shill published?

President Hinckley worked until age 97 to help people become better people and better members of the society in which they live. He did it not by intimidation, fear or threats, but through kindness, love, and a keen but guileless wit.

Many people followed his advice, and when they did they treated their families with greater love; treated others with tolerance and respect; tried to be more humble; kept themselves free from alcohol and drugs and the undesirable social consequences when those things are abused. They sacrificed time and money to help other people. They forgave and asked for forgiveness. They worked harder in their jobs and tried to be cheerful around others. They taught their children to respect adults, get a good education and learn to provide for themselves. I have tried to follow his example and I believe that I am a much better person because of it.

I am grateful for the life of such a selfless man who has been a force for good in the United States and many other countries around the world.

WOW How cool is that

The kids in my area did this too! My 17-year-old daughter called all her friends and asked them to wear their Sunday best to school the next day -- up here in Washington state.

And there they were -- boys in white shirts and ties, the girls in skirts or dresses. :-)

To the general reader, confused by David Weiss' comment:

David may have dreamed what he wrote about in his own mind, but there is no such movie and the missionaries would not state what he purported because that would be a categorically incorrect teaching. Telling a story that "sounds authentic" is a common, unfortunate tactic used to misinform people, so please be aware of this as you run across such comments as his on the internet.

I am grateful for the many heartfelt comments here and in many other blogs about President Hinckley. As a father, I am so deeply thankful for his example to me and my children of a person with such kindness, humility, gentility to all, integrity, humor, and living exactly as he taught. I am also deeply thankful for the "Proclamation on the Family" that is so clear and prophetic in its message to the world. We will ever have his example before us to inspire us to strive each day to be our best selves, and do it with a smile. Peace to all.

What a great loss for the whole world.

Such a sad day lossing a great man, a man which was Godlike. Honest, ture, humor, loved life, sincer, positive, warm hearted. We really do need more people in the world like President Gordon B Hinckley what a wonderful place it would be.
As we morn we remember his work here on earth was done. We lived his life the way God wanted him to and his time had come to go back home. Oh, what that much have been for him to be reunited with his loving wife.
I know personally this last Oct confrence will forever be with me. This was the first time my husband attended since I had waited 10 years for him to finally join the church. As we sat listening President Hinckley had a way of speaking to each and everyone of us as if it was a private talk one on one. My husband was in amazement with President Hinckley and at point asked me how old was he.
We will be forever missed though will be in our hearts forever. I want to just say thank you President Hickley for all you have done for the church but the world too.
You opened doors that were closed you sat watching over the "world" wanting to know what else could you do to help. You traveled miles to just shake a hand or hold a child. Oh, what a joy it must have been.
I know that what President Hinckley taught was the truth and I know that the teaching of the LDS chruch is true with every breath I take. I just hope I can be a small part of the type of person he was.

Forever Missed
Pam

It was obvious to all who knew President Hinckely that a divine power was working through him. He was one who truly knew how to rely on the strength of the Lord, and he will be sorely missed.

Let us all follow his example in looking to and emulating the ultimate Example: our Savior, Jesus Christ.

This forum is placed here for people to honor a religous leader at his time of passing. If you are coming in here to bass the mormons it just shows a lack of respect for life, religion and god. Just because it was not a religion you chose to follow does not mean you should use the forum for a chance to bash a leader of the religion.
Sheesh, Can you define Morales? Were you ever taught that if you cant say nothing nice dont say nothing at all. Hello this is one of those times you do that.
You choice was not to join that religion. But your comment had nothing to do with what this forum is about it is about a man that has passed.
Gordon B Hinckly was a great leader in the church and did alot of good in the world. It did not matter if you were not mormon. If the world needed aid he gave it. He will be missed amoung the church, outside of the church and around the world and to non members of the church as well
My prayers are with his family and the people morning his passing.

My 17 year-old daughter went to bed Sunday night with her hair in curlers and spent a lot of time Monday morning looking her best, wearing a skirt and heels to school as well. I thought she was just trying to impress a boy. Now I know she was most likely paying a personal tribute to President Hinckley. What a nice gesture of love and remembrance paid by these teenage sons and daughters! I remember a deep sense of gratitude, love, and loss at the death of the prophet of my youth, President Kimball, when I was my daughter's age. I remember wearing a dress to High School the day of his viewing, and going downtown to the Administration building to pay my last respects. These wonderful men do have a profound influence on the youth of the church!

Hey David,
Your comment says alot about you. This forum is placed here for people to honor a religous leader at his time of passing. Your actions show a lack of respect for life, religion and god. Just because it was not a religion you chose to follow does not mean you should use the forum for a chance to bash a this leaders religion.
Sheesh, Can you define Morales? Were you ever taught that if you cant say nothing nice dont say nothing at all. Hello this is one of those times you do that.
You choice was not to join that religion. But your comment had nothing to do with what this forum is about it is about a man that has passed.
Gordon B Hinckly was a great leader in the church and did alot of good in the world. It did not matter if you were not mormon. If the world needed aid he gave it. He will be missed amoung the church, outside of the church and around the world and to non mormon members as well
God bless his family

Hey David,
Your comment says alot about you. This forum is placed here for people to honor a religous leader at his time of passing. Your actions show a lack of respect for life, religion and god. Just because it was not a religion you chose to follow does not mean you should use the forum for a chance to bash a this leaders religion.
Sheesh, Can you define Morales? Were you ever taught that if you cant say nothing nice dont say nothing at all. Hello this is one of those times you do that.
You choice was not to join that religion. But your comment had nothing to do with what this forum is about it is about a man that has passed.
Gordon B Hinckly was a great leader in the church and did alot of good in the world. It did not matter if you were not mormon. If the world needed aid he gave it. He will be missed amoung the church, outside of the church and around the world and to non mormon members as well

Having met President Hinckley's son, daughter and granddaughter in every day simple situations far from the center of LDS influence I found that his and his wife's teachings and joy in individuals evident in their interaction with others. In many ways we judge others by the "fruits of their labors". Three fruits of their labors showed me Christ-like love, acceptance and joy in the way they live their lives and serve others. President Hinckley was first and foremost a husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather who shared his love with all the world.

Having met President Hinckley's son, daughter and granddaughter in every day simple situations far from the center of LDS influence I found that his and his wife's teachings and joy in individuals evident in their interaction with others. In many ways we judge others by the "fruits of their labors". Three fruits of their labors showed me Christ-like love, acceptance and joy in the way they live their lives and serve others. President Hinckley was first and foremost a husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather who shared his love with all the world.

Pres. Hinckley was a wonderful man and will greatly be missed!!!!!

...and to David Weiss, sorry you had a bad encounter with the LDS missionaries, but we all aren't like that. I'm sorry you have such a negative view on the LDS religion.

Man oh man, a big time Mormon dies and the nuts have got to preach.

When I was a teen the Mormons tried to convert me to their religion. After going to the Ward and watching movies of exactly what it was like to be in heaven I had the sense to reject the Mormon religion.

When I told the missionary - No sale. He got angry and condemned me and my friend to the "Outer Darkness" . He said the Outer Darkness was pretty close to being in Hell. Because I had heard the "Truth" and rejected it I was to be not let into heaven and condemned to the eternal damnation of the Outer Darkness.

Do the Mormons still use these strong arm tactics to intimidate the "gentiles" and thus increase their membership? Is this why they are the fastest growing religion?

@ KERUSSO
"we are faced once again with the glaring fact that death will come to all."

Yesterday, I found myself in a graveyard I used to pass by (sometimes through) on my way to High School in the 1980's. I knew some of the graves had been removed to make way for the railway, although most the (old) graves still stood clear for all to see. Even at that time people had stopped burying their dead in that cemetry. But people still had "some" respect for the place. What I saw yesterday was awful: not only did people walk right on the graves, but so many of those (poor) graves were literally covered with all sorts of filth. And new "modern" houses had been built on part of the sordid place. I wish I hadn't gone there!

http://arabicwithlagouader.blogspot.com/

This was printed in memorandum of a great and good man. A man who wore out his life in the service of his God. A man who rejoiced in the goodness of his posterity and the youth worldwide.

It would be nice if the comments could contain themselves to the gracious acknowledgement of a good life instead of sinking to the bickering that has previously happened here.

There will be plenty of future posts to debate different beliefs.

I, for one, will miss President Hinckley's smile and gentle humor. His expressions of optimism in the face of a world that seems to be spirling out of control. His confidence in the youth to be true to the faith.

I will miss him, but I know a sweet reunion is in full swing on the other side. His wife is happy to have him home.

With the passing of Gordon Hinkley we are faced once again with the glaring fact that death will come to all. I’m reminded of a poem by Thomas Macaulay;

Then out spake brave Horatius,
The Captain of the gate:
‘To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods,
‘And for the tender mother
Who dandled him to rest,
And for the wife who nurses
His baby at her breast,
And for the holy maidens
Who feed the eternal flame,
To save them from false Sextus
That wrought the deed of shame?

We tend to focus on the end and go for it at full speed. In the name of Mormonism, President Hinkley did some great earthly deeds; he indeed fed the hungry and took care of the needy, he encouraged his followers to make the world a friendly place, and in this, he did the temporal world a great service.

Was it a strange coincidence that I was reading 1 Corinthians 4 last night? “He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts.” What were these motives? The LDS church is notorious for taking James out of context when he said, “Faith without works is dead.” Certainly, this is true, try to show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You cannot tell a man is saved by his profession of faith alone, but by his works. But, that is not to discount the profession of faith, and unfortunately most Mormon’s believe they are working their way into Heaven based on these verses. These verses, when read in context, clearly point to justification by faith alone, with the faith being evidenced in good works. (See 1 John 1)

George Whitefield was preaching in America about the time the LDS religion was sprouting. His final sermon may well have been in direct rebuttal to the new heresy. He said, “Works, Works! A man get to Heaven by works! I’d as soon climb to the moon on a rope of sand.” God our Saviour, Jesus Christ, the coexistent, coeternal, immutable, Son of God, did all of the work. God created the Heavens and the Earth in six literal days, man was created at the end of the sixth day, there was no work for him to do, similarly, there is no work for us to do in the events of salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith, not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, so that no man can boast. (Eph 2:8-9)

We are separated from God by our sin. The book of your conscience has recorded every lie you have ever told, every thing you have ever stolen, regardless of value, every time you have used the name of God in vain. Jesus Christ said, “You’ve heard it said of old, thou shalt not commit adultery, but I say to you, whosoever looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already with her in his heart.” If you’ve ever looked at a person with lust, God sees you as an adulterer at heart. Similarly, Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.” Have you ever told a lie? Stolen? Blasphemed? Lusted? Hated? God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer and murderer at heart. Know that murderers, adulterers, and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. No thief or blasphemer has any inheritance in the kingdom of God.

Where Jesus Christ did all of the work was when he left his eternal position in Heaven to be born by the Spirit of a virgin, where he lived a perfect, sinless life, tempted in every way, but not succumbing. He offered himself up on the cross to die in your place. He was hung between two thieves, where-as there should have been three thieves, you being the third, Christ took your place. By the shedding of his blood, your sins can be remitted. He died in your place and paid your fine.

He demands that you repent of your sins and place your full trust in him to save you. But you must be sure you are trusting in the correct understanding of Jesus. To think he was just a man is to place your trust in something futile. A mere man could not pay your fine, and if he was merely a created man-god, then you will both die and go to Hell. But Christ proved his sovereignty when he raised himself from the grave and defeated death. He ascended into heaven and was restored to full authority by God the Father, “Unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Hebrews 1:8)

Repent and trust in Jesus Christ, God manifest in the flesh, and you will be forgiven and adopted into the family of God. Or continue lying, stealing, and breaking God’s laws and be of your father the devil, because he is a liar, and the father of lies. (John 8:44)

Where Gordon Hinkley was, whether he trusted in a false Jesus or in the true Author of eternal salvation (Hebrews 5:9) is known only to him and God. God, who desires all men to come to the knowledge of the truth, wants you to use this opportunity to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. If you are trying to work your way to Heaven, you are trying to bribe the Righteous Judge of all the Universe, who has already paid your fine, and the insult of this bribery will not be forgiven. Today is the day of salvation, you may not have tomorrow, we are not all so lucky to live to 97 years old, and tonight your soul could be required of you.

Repent, and believe, the kingdom of God is at hand.

This was not just in Utah but I witnessed high school students dressed up for school in Arizona also. I would expect this happened in some way all over the world. We will miss President Hinckley, but we will not forget his teaching, by both his actions and words. Truly he lived his religion and was a man without guile.