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I too was not aware that Jesus Christ gave the strong recommendation that leaders in religious groups ought not be put into categories voiced and called "Rabbi, Father, Teacher, Leader, Director, or Master." Apparently I too missed this advice of Jesus found in Matthew 23. It's a bit of a shock to find that out.

It is greatly heartening to see voices from Christian Science represented in this discussion. Far too often CS (and other theological offshoots of the 19th century) goes unnoticed as a theological and ethical voice in the contemporary U.S. religious landscape. As far as Jesus being "religious," much of that might be in the eye of the beholder. Since the original term "religio" meant "to link up" or "to join together" in Latin, any unique combination of attitudes, practices and beliefs that situates humans in their environment might be said to be religious. Being called into relationship with the sacred Power(s) of the Universe might be said to be religious, just as Jesus could also be seen as the prototypical healer--one who brings clarity of mind and the realization of spiritual truth in Christian Science.

Names,words, titles, have little meaning beyond what the individual perceives it to mean. That is why even the term, "Christian Science", is so puzzling to so many. What matters is the light of truth that is revealed through whomever. That truth is what some call "Christ" - the Son of God, the anointed one or the true man in God's likeness as stated in Genesis l. Jesus bore that title because he embodied the Christ idea better than any other individual. It could also be the truth about man and God which the human Buddha taught to his followers, or other great leader/teacher. The fact is that since God is spiritual, He can only be understood through spiritual sense as Spirit and words have no more meaning that what we give them.

Names,words, titles, have little meaning beyond what the individual perceives it to mean. That is why even the term, "Christian Science", is so puzzling to so many. What matters is the light of truth that is revealed through whomever. That truth is what some call "Christ" - the Son of God, the anointed one or the true man in God's likeness as stated in Genesis l. Jesus bore that title because he embodied the Christ idea better than any other individual. It could also be the truth about man and God which the human Buddha taught to his followers, or other great leader/teacher. The fact is that since God is spiritual, He can only be understood through spiritual sense as Spirit and words have no more meaning that what we give them.

Jacob Jozevz, people have been making such claims about the Catholic Church for 1000 years and now they're long gone as will be these christian scientists as will your eclaty thing. I'm not being mean, just speaking from history!

Dear Eric,

I would need to take issue with your statement that Jesus entirely meant "we are to "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" for it is only a Rabbi/Father/Teacher/Leader/ Director, or ego." I say this, because Jesus promised that The Comforter would come to earth one day. All Christian Scientists recognize Christian Science to be The Comforter, and they recognize their
Leader, Mary Baker Eddy, as the one who birthed this Science, clothing it in the garment of religion.
Mary Baker Eddy promoted that religion spoken of in The Bible by James, Chapter 1:26-27, which is described as "Pure religion and undefiled before God..." This is the religion
of Truth and of divine Love that does good works and good deeds to one's fellow man. Christian Science in its terms and classifications goes deeply beneath and beyond things or thoughts that are normally taken merely at face value.
For instance as regards the ego, Mrs. Eddy has an entire page presenting important thoughts that ought to be contemplated. Until one is *really* BEING his or her own God-being, classifications and clarifications of various terms are imperative, and these are what Mary Baker Eddy provides. I would recommend reading her book, UNITY OF GOOD, and her chapter, "The Ego", found
on page 27.
A true Christian Scientist will certainly give recognition to this God inspired woman, Mary Baker Eddy, as their Leader in Christian Science, and as one who sacrificed much personal ease and overcame many obstacles in order to bring to humanity that which many individual Christian Scientists unaffiliated with the present church organization acknowledge as being the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

http://www.christianscience.org/HUIntro.htm

Your article, Eric, stimulates thought. Thank you for that! This is wonderful certainly for Mary Baker Eddy writes in her Preface to the Christian Science textbook, "Science and Health With Key To The Scriptures", page vii:13, "The time for thinkers has come."

Dear Eric,

I would need to take issue with your statement that Jesus entirely meant "we are to "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" for it is only a Rabbi/Father/Teacher/Leader/ Director, or ego." I say this, because Jesus promised that The Comforter would come to earth one day. All Christian Scientists recognize Christian Science to be The Comforter, and they recognize their
Leader, Mary Baker Eddy, as the one who birthed this Science, clothing it in the garment of religion.
Mary Baker Eddy promoted that religion spoken of in The Bible by James, Chapter 1:26-27, which is described as "Pure religion and undefiled before God..." This is the religion
of Truth and of divine Love that does good works and good deeds to one's fellow man. Christian Science in its terms and classifications goes deeply beneath and beyond things or thoughts that are normally taken merely at face value.
For instance as regards the ego, Mrs. Eddy has an entire page presenting important thoughts that ought to be contemplated. Until one is *really* BEING his or her own God-being, classifications and clarifications of various terms are imperative, and these are what Mary Baker Eddy provides. I would recommend reading her book, UNITY OF GOOD, and her chapter, "The Ego", found
on page 27.
A true Christian Scientist will certainly give recognition to this God inspired woman, Mary Baker Eddy, as their Leader in Christian Science, and as one who sacrificed much personal ease and overcame many obstacals in order to bring to humanity that which many individual Christian Scientists unaffiliated with the present church organization acknowledge as being the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

http://www.christianscience.org/HUIntro.htm

Your article, Eric, stimulates thought. Thank you for that! This is wonderful certainly for Mary Baker Eddy writes in her Preface to the Christian Science textbook, "Science and Health With Key To The Scriptures", page vii:13, "The time for thinkers has come."

It all depends on what you mean by religion. The ancient Greeks, Romans, and Hebrews among others saw in religion the ties that bound a society together. But under the influence of Persian mystical thought, Platonism, and other religious and philosophical traditions the emphasis came to be placed more on salvation -- particularly in Christianity. Jesus was a product of the Second Temple Judaism and undoubtedly was obsessed with salvation. Did he teach religion? I guess he did. Not a particularly desirable sort of religion at that.

Eric, are you really that limited on scripture, or do you intentionally twist?

Jesus on the donkey was an example of royalty! In Rome{and other empires}, when a conquering general marched into Rome with his booty, he rode in on a donkey showing his glory. Jesus rode in on a donkey that had never before been riden.

Jesus didn't say don't call me good, but pointed out that only God could be called good, showing he is God {I and the Father are one}.

Calling no one rabbi was refering to people seeking God like status for themselves {Paul refered to himself as father 1Cor 4:14-16}.

Jesus didn't say don't worship him, he drew people to understand he is God {before Abraham was I am Jn 8:58-59; and they shall call him Emanuel, mean God is with us Mt 1:22-23; Timothy said "my Lord and my God" Jn 20:28-29 to name a few}

From what i can understand, this article is fascinating, thought provoking. I look forward to reading more of his writings.
It stands to reason Jesus must have been above religion. Doing what he did proves it. Religion based on his teachings and similar ideas is wonderful and helpful to many people; and needed and necessary in this world we live in. When religion becomes denominational, it has many unhelpful characteristics. Jesus did not need religion, we do. So it can certainly be rightly said he was not religous.

Havn't read it yet, so I'd like to say I'm sure I'll enjoy it.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

PEACE,

Shawn

Obviously Jesus believes in God. It is questionable whether Jesus believes in ... himself (as divine.)

This can clearly be seen in Mark 10:17-8, where a stranger approaches Jesus with the question,

"Good Master, what must I do to win eternal life".

Jesus replies "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone'.

Presumably Jesus would not lie. It would appear --just as later legends of the Buddha described him as divine -- the same process happend with Jesus.

Thanks, Eric, for your observations. I myself am an atheist, born hindu, and try to live as a good christian might, minus the preaching and, of course, the faith. I don't believe in god, but I do believe in loving thy neighbor and all the other commandments that I find not only in Christianity but in other religions, as well as plain old common sense and manners. I don't understand why religious people believe they have a monopoly on morality. So many of them do so much harm, and spew hatred, under the banner of religion and god. Jesus was a great man, even a prophet, and I'm sure he was a very tolerant and loving neighbor. He wouldn't like many of the people who claim to be his followers. For instance, this morning a Hindu priest gave the opening prayer in Congress -- for the first time in history. He was heckled by a group of "Christians" who had come to protest a hate crimes bill. That was so twisted to me. Never mind the rudeness towards the Hindu priest, but how could they protest a hate crimes bill? Don't they know Jesus stood for love and not hate?

No matter where you stand on religion, you must read the book Jesus Land by my friend Julia Scheeres.
Thank you.