M-A-R-T-Y-R M-O-U-S-E
A couple of weeks ago I was in Israel, where I was born and where much of my family still lives. I was sitting in the living room of my great aunt, where I've sat hundreds of times, listening to the same speech I've heard hundreds of times. My family is Sephardic, working class and not, shall we say, progressive. None of them needed to be convinced on the wisdom of building the Great Wall to separate Israel from various West Bank territories. They would die before they voted for anyone in the Labor party, or gave a penny to Peace Now.
Every time I visit they feel the need to give their naïve, lefty, American relative (me) a refresher course on the dangers of the Arab mind. After a few minutes I tuned them out, as I always do, and idly flipped through channels. I paused for a moment when I got to a show featuring an oversized Mickey Mouse character with a helium-voice bouncing around on dry desert land. My children weren't with me on this trip and I missed them. How cute, I thought. Next time they come with me I'll have something to show them. My Arabic is pretty rusty, so I couldn't really understand what he was saying, and neither would they. But who could resist an overstuffed, bobblehead Mouse in baggy white gloves?
If you follow the foreign news you know where this is going. When I got back to the U.S. my in-box was filled with the tragic headlines about Middle Eastern Mickey, whose real name is Farfour. Since I'd seen him, Farfour, the star of a children's program called "Tomorrow's Pioneers," had died. To be accurate, he'd been killed, murdered really. Or in the words of the anchor who delivered the news – a six year old girl, same age as my daughter, dressed in a peach headscarf – "martyred at the hands of criminals, the murderers, the murderers of innocent children." She was sitting somber faced at a desk, and the wall behind her was covered in one of those cheerful foam puzzles kids usually have on their playroom floors.
On the show, the girl's announcement is preceded by Farfour being interrogated by a shady Israeli official, one of the "filthy, criminal plundering Jews," as Farfour likes to call them. The Israeli, who is black, speaks perfect Arabic and is dressed like a seventies porn mogul, beats the mouse in the head and neck and presumably would waterboard him if he could find big enough straps. Here it is: It has to be seen to be believed.
"Tomorrow's Pioneers," which runs on a Hamas affiliated station, is not some nutcase cable access show. It's "educational television," the Hamas equivalent of Sesame Street or Baby Einstein, the kind of show that appeals to parents who think kids today spend too much time with their Game Boys. In some episodes Farfour tells kids to study hard for their exams and drink their milk. In other episodes he shows them how to hold an AK-47 and launch a hand grenade.
This is the hardest thing to get your head around. Martyr culture is not just for the hopeless youth of refugee camps. I remember once visiting a West bank school that was the Fatah-affiliated equivalent of Maret- a tony outpost for the children of professors and accountants. Even there the most prominent space was reserved for the Martyr's Wall, a collection of photos and bloody mementos of neighborhood kids who'd been killed while fighting the enemy. No youthful aspirations exist outside the context of the noble death wish. For a fourteen-year-old, to aspire to be just an accountant is shameful, a betrayal. To be a martyr is the ultimate goal.
We are once again in one of those moments when some American official is gamely setting out to tackle the Middle East peace process (in this case Condi Rice) But if anyone has one spark of hope for the success of such a process, the Martyred Mouse will kill it off. Even the most willfully blinkered lefty Israeli (such as myself) just has to throw up her hands at a preschool program that includes among its vocabulary phrases "murderers of innocent children" and "criminal plundering Jews." This seems only one step short of the child soldiers of Uganda, kidnapped by the Lord's Resistance Army. " "We will annihilate the Jews," one young female caller told Farfour."I will commit martyrdom."
One bit of good news: " Israel's Education Ministry announced Sunday that it had approved a textbook for use in the state's Arab schools that for the first time described Israel's 1948 war of independence as a 'catastrophe' for the Arab population," the New York Times reports. Hardly a radical concession, but still very controversial in Israel. The Education Minister, my relatives would point out with disgust, is of course a longtime, loyal Laborite.
Hanna Rosin is a contributing writer and editor to The Washington Post, The Atlantic Monthly and Slate.com.
By Hanna Rosin |
July 30, 2007; 9:57 AM ET
Share: Email a Friend |
Technorati
| Del.icio.us | Digg | Facebook
Previous: The Islam of History |
Next: They Spoke; We Listened and Learned
Posted by: hananim_iz | August 7, 2008 12:55 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ciopda.com >.444 marlin guide gun
http://index1.dityns.com >ricky ullman professional photo shoots
Posted by: Larcik-nc | August 6, 2008 8:33 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.niopil.com >i ve got it all most mp3
http://index1.oiloin.com >the march on versailles
Posted by: hananim_ex | August 6, 2008 6:44 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ntdphb.com >geogrphy
http://index1.vitiup.com >moundville alabama
Posted by: Larcik-av | August 6, 2008 2:54 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ntdphb.com >geogrphy
http://index1.vitiup.com >moundville alabama
Posted by: Larcik-av | August 6, 2008 2:54 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ntdphb.com >geogrphy
http://index1.vitiup.com >moundville alabama
Posted by: Larcik-av | August 6, 2008 2:54 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ntdphb.com >geogrphy
http://index1.vitiup.com >moundville alabama
Posted by: Larcik-av | August 6, 2008 2:54 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.weewra.com >carville la. leprosarium i
http://index1.erojin.com >care for primrose
Posted by: hananim_wb | August 6, 2008 12:21 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.weewra.com >carville la. leprosarium i
http://index1.erojin.com >care for primrose
Posted by: hananim_wb | August 6, 2008 12:20 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.8shtuk.com >barings greater china fund
http://index1.eroint.com >philly daily news paper for 12 31 05
Posted by: hananim_gf | August 6, 2008 5:27 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.8shtuk.com >barings greater china fund
http://index1.eroint.com >philly daily news paper for 12 31 05
Posted by: hananim_gf | August 6, 2008 5:27 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ariopr.com >tracy sue orkin md 159 margaret street plattsburgh ny
http://index1.quikop.com >lin and wwho and hub and master control
Posted by: Larcik-ga | August 6, 2008 2:32 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.ariopr.com >tracy sue orkin md 159 margaret street plattsburgh ny
http://index1.quikop.com >lin and wwho and hub and master control
Posted by: Larcik-ga | August 6, 2008 2:31 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.9poilo.com >schubas
http://index1.stityg.com >baby rabbits how many does a rabbit have at one liter
Posted by: hananim_qg | August 5, 2008 11:14 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.9poilo.com >schubas
http://index1.stityg.com >baby rabbits how many does a rabbit have at one liter
Posted by: hananim_qg | August 5, 2008 11:14 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.9poilo.com >schubas
http://index1.stityg.com >baby rabbits how many does a rabbit have at one liter
Posted by: hananim_qg | August 5, 2008 11:14 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.smytiw.com >pinto bellhousing sale
http://index1.dfitbv.com >masterbrand cabinet
Posted by: Larcik-bq | August 5, 2008 8:56 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.smytiw.com >pinto bellhousing sale
http://index1.dfitbv.com >masterbrand cabinet
Posted by: Larcik-bq | August 5, 2008 8:56 PM
Report Offensive Comment
[URL=http://zpmebnzm.com]kjuaf tqsmi[/URL] [URL=http://bkwiolnx.com]ecnad qdqbn[/URL]
Posted by: Kazelddd | July 17, 2008 4:20 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Posted by: Kazeledp | July 17, 2008 4:19 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Hi!nwik! http://jkvtumlh.com vsxgv dqxrx http://ynaqchra.com oyphe zfhps
Posted by: Kazeldze | July 17, 2008 4:18 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Just chill on and enhance your libido for sure success.
http://www.libido-enhancers.com
Posted by: Libido | July 2, 2008 3:48 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Chill to mill and fill the drill of success with vigrx plus -
http://www.vigrx-plus.net
Posted by: Vigrx | July 2, 2008 3:46 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Posted by: hair loss | June 19, 2008 4:50 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Nice to play and easy to win but hard to fight.
http://www.adnarticles.com
Posted by: Free Articles | June 5, 2008 3:10 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Vacation packages are always hard to search, but here are some options. http://www.imeem.com/people/Cc8kD5k
Posted by: Vacation Packages | May 28, 2008 5:20 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Vacation packages are always hard to search, but here are some options. http://www.imeem.com/people/Cc8kD5k
Posted by: Vacation Packages | May 28, 2008 5:18 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Vacation packages are always hard to search, but here are some options. http://www.imeem.com/people/Cc8kD5k
Posted by: Vacation Packages | May 28, 2008 5:18 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Mexican independence day food
Posted by: Mexican handbook day independence | May 6, 2008 6:33 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Mexican independence day food
Posted by: Mexican handbook day independence | May 6, 2008 6:33 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.lm4nmu.com >dockers mailing address
Posted by: Clara-ff | February 9, 2008 10:31 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.lm4nmu.com >dockers mailing address
Posted by: Clara-ff | February 9, 2008 10:30 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.lm4nmu.com >dockers mailing address
Posted by: Clara-ff | February 9, 2008 10:30 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.mster6.com >new chevrolet
Posted by: Clara-vw | February 9, 2008 2:29 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.poshlo.com >suzzane russo brass
Posted by: Clara-xh | February 8, 2008 11:41 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.poshlo.com >suzzane russo brass
Posted by: Clara-xh | February 8, 2008 11:40 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.poshlo.com >suzzane russo brass
Posted by: Clara-xh | February 8, 2008 11:40 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://1.poshlo.com >suzzane russo brass
Posted by: Clara-xh | February 8, 2008 11:40 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.scukam.com >exploitation films
Posted by: Clara-lu | January 26, 2008 5:25 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.scukam.com >exploitation films
Posted by: Clara-lu | January 26, 2008 5:25 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.scukam.com >exploitation films
Posted by: Clara-lu | January 26, 2008 5:25 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.scukam.com >exploitation films
Posted by: Clara-lu | January 26, 2008 5:25 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.scukam.com >exploitation films
Posted by: Clara-lu | January 26, 2008 5:25 AM
Report Offensive Comment
xjgeh fzkjs ymnoaf mzuxra vrozyqbu qerm cuqzb http://www.ipfsxmr.ckhvga.com
Posted by: ruachedxo duor | January 25, 2008 9:22 AM
Report Offensive Comment
yvoaqjmh udhxnl mvlhgqs ythkbie qbln ihzvku xpyig
Posted by: lvapbze emjsgq | January 25, 2008 9:21 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.7umini.com >us army corp of engineers
Posted by: Dixy-wr | January 25, 2008 12:07 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.7umini.com >us army corp of engineers
Posted by: Dixy-wr | January 25, 2008 12:07 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.typguide.com >cat pics
Posted by: Clara-gp | January 24, 2008 9:28 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.typguide.com >cat pics
Posted by: Clara-gp | January 24, 2008 9:28 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.typguide.com >cat pics
Posted by: Clara-gp | January 24, 2008 9:28 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.typguide.com >cat pics
Posted by: Clara-gp | January 24, 2008 9:28 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.typguide.com >cat pics
Posted by: Clara-gp | January 24, 2008 9:28 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.morun5.com >boy scout camp forestburg
Posted by: Dixy-hs | January 23, 2008 8:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.morun5.com >boy scout camp forestburg
Posted by: Dixy-hs | January 23, 2008 8:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.morun5.com >boy scout camp forestburg
Posted by: Dixy-hs | January 23, 2008 8:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.funtir.com >classy updos
Posted by: Dixy-bf | January 22, 2008 4:48 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.funtir.com >classy updos
Posted by: Dixy-bf | January 22, 2008 4:48 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.funtir.com >classy updos
Posted by: Dixy-bf | January 22, 2008 4:48 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.lopste.com >chambersburg hospital
Posted by: Dixy-bm | January 21, 2008 1:24 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.lopste.com >chambersburg hospital
Posted by: Dixy-bm | January 21, 2008 1:24 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.lopste.com >chambersburg hospital
Posted by: Dixy-bm | January 21, 2008 1:23 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.uramim.com >effects of katrina on mississippi
Posted by: Dixy-wm | January 21, 2008 4:54 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.uramim.com >effects of katrina on mississippi
Posted by: Dixy-wm | January 21, 2008 4:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.uramim.com >effects of katrina on mississippi
Posted by: Dixy-wm | January 21, 2008 4:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.hrumst.com >novelty doorbell ringers
Posted by: Dixy-kk | January 20, 2008 7:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.hrumst.com >novelty doorbell ringers
Posted by: Dixy-kk | January 20, 2008 7:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.no-4um.com >data com
Posted by: Dixy-ne | January 20, 2008 12:13 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.no-4um.com >data com
Posted by: Dixy-ne | January 20, 2008 12:12 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.semrua.com >winsock
Posted by: Dixy-xc | January 20, 2008 2:50 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.semrua.com >winsock
Posted by: Dixy-xc | January 20, 2008 2:49 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.semrua.com >winsock
Posted by: Dixy-xc | January 20, 2008 2:49 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.trum4u.com >aol greating cards
Posted by: Dixy-ni | January 19, 2008 5:36 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.trum4u.com >aol greating cards
Posted by: Dixy-ni | January 19, 2008 5:36 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.trum4u.com >aol greating cards
Posted by: Dixy-ni | January 19, 2008 5:35 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Posted by: Dixy-fm | January 19, 2008 1:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Posted by: Dixy-fm | January 19, 2008 1:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Posted by: Dixy-fm | January 19, 2008 1:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.umsung.com >meridian cabana
Posted by: Dixy-tl | January 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.umsung.com >meridian cabana
Posted by: Dixy-tl | January 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.umsung.com >meridian cabana
Posted by: Dixy-tl | January 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.rast4u.com >washington dc capital
Posted by: Dixy-ng | January 17, 2008 3:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.rast4u.com >washington dc capital
Posted by: Dixy-ng | January 17, 2008 3:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.rast4u.com >washington dc capital
Posted by: Dixy-ng | January 17, 2008 3:29 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.fumuni.com >mossberg model 500 shotgun 410 pumps for sale
Posted by: Dixy-tf | January 16, 2008 12:08 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.fumuni.com >mossberg model 500 shotgun 410 pumps for sale
Posted by: Dixy-tf | January 16, 2008 12:08 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.fumuni.com >mossberg model 500 shotgun 410 pumps for sale
Posted by: Dixy-tf | January 16, 2008 12:07 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Nothing can stop me by posting these comments.
Posted by: Hoodia Gordonii | January 16, 2008 2:27 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://humkan.com >american 20arbitration 20association
Posted by: Clara-nd | January 11, 2008 4:14 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://humkan.com >american 20arbitration 20association
Posted by: Clara-nd | January 11, 2008 4:14 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://weviru.com >math tutor
Posted by: Clara-hr | January 11, 2008 8:38 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://weviru.com >math tutor
Posted by: Clara-hr | January 11, 2008 8:38 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://pristu.com >athomeamerica
Posted by: Clara-cs | January 11, 2008 1:31 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://yritum.com >122 capital street suite 200
Posted by: Clara-ee | January 10, 2008 1:17 PM
Report Offensive Comment
No no you are right and I am wrong. Ok
Posted by: buy viagra | January 7, 2008 1:58 AM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.bubify.com >chipawhoo boots
Posted by: Dixy-qg | December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.bubify.com >chipawhoo boots
Posted by: Dixy-qg | December 28, 2007 5:58 PM
Report Offensive Comment
http://index1.bubify.com >chipawhoo boots
Posted by: Dixy-qg | December 28, 2007 5:58 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Good design. I liked this site, it's neat. Good job! Would you please also visit my site? http://www.geocities.com/tommyurbanskiwrestler/pictures/tommy-urbanski.html >tommy urbanski
t82xtyY5wN
Posted by: James | November 5, 2007 2:24 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Awesome site! Design is great! Please visit my homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
3PXv77hKx7
Posted by: Jessica | November 3, 2007 3:48 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Awesome site! Design is great! Please visit my homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
3PXv77hKx7
Posted by: Jessica | November 3, 2007 3:48 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Greetings to the author of this page. Nice site, keep up the good work http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
75MCR7G8fh
Posted by: James | November 3, 2007 1:05 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Greetings to the author of this page. Nice site, keep up the good work http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
75MCR7G8fh
Posted by: James | November 3, 2007 1:05 PM
Report Offensive Comment
I'm glad I found your site! It's nice! Thank you!!! Visit my sites, please: http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
75MCR7G8fh
Posted by: Iris | November 3, 2007 12:49 PM
Report Offensive Comment
I'm glad I found your site! It's nice! Thank you!!! Visit my sites, please: http://www.geocities.com/ebonyhoes/black/ebony-hoes.html >ebony hoes
75MCR7G8fh
Posted by: Iris | November 3, 2007 12:49 PM
Report Offensive Comment
I am very impressed how you can build webpages! Visit my sites, please: http://www.geocities.com/adultgalleryhun/hun/the-hun-yellow-pages-tgp.html >the hun yellow pages tgp
9yPPAQm927
Posted by: Iris | October 30, 2007 1:18 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Good design. I liked this site, it's neat. Good job! Would you please also visit my site? http://idisk.mac.com/internationalmapques/Public/lion/a-step-in-the-right-direction.html >a step in the right direction
947CUc3V45
Posted by: Iris | October 28, 2007 6:13 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Good design. I liked this site, it's neat. Good job! Would you please also visit my site? http://idisk.mac.com/internationalmapques/Public/lion/a-step-in-the-right-direction.html >a step in the right direction
947CUc3V45
Posted by: Iris | October 28, 2007 6:12 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Thanks for the good site and usefulinfo. I found http://www.geocities.com/lionandcompass/world/street-map-direction.html >street map direction
947CUc3V45
Posted by: Jessica | October 27, 2007 2:56 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages? Would you please also visit my homepage? http://www.geocities.com/marinerscompassquilt/bank/travel-directions.html >travel directions
Utu74Bp3zk
Posted by: Iris | October 26, 2007 10:24 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages? Would you please also visit my homepage? http://www.geocities.com/marinerscompassquilt/bank/travel-directions.html >travel directions
Utu74Bp3zk
Posted by: Iris | October 26, 2007 10:24 AM
Report Offensive Comment
I am very impressed how you can build webpages! Visit my sites, please: http://idisk.mac.com/xxxpornmovie/Public/sex/world-sex-free-movie.html >world sex free movie
24EXRH4c55
Posted by: Betty | October 22, 2007 9:36 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages? Would you please also visit my homepage? http://idisk.mac.com/freeoralmovieclipxxx/Public/pics/nike-air-flight-89.html >nike air flight 89
24EXRH4c55
Posted by: Iris | October 22, 2007 9:06 AM
Report Offensive Comment
You have a very nice site. Other interesting resources http://www.geocities.com/freetvxxx/sex/video-xxx-gratuit.html >video xxx gratuit
88Pa76Vd9
Posted by: Jennifer | October 16, 2007 7:46 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Greetings to the author of this page. Nice site, keep up the good work http://www.geocities.com/adultxxxsexpics/life/free-xxx-sex-mpeg.html >free xxx sex mpeg
88Pa76Vd9
Posted by: Iris | October 16, 2007 7:17 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Nice page greetings to all in this guestbook! http://www.geocities.com/freepornvideoxxx/download/free-porn-video-xxx.html >free porn video xxx
4h7NzzzK9
Posted by: Jennifer | October 15, 2007 8:30 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Good resources here. Cheers. BTW would you please also visit my site? http://www.geocities.com/downloadfreexxx/movie/free-xxx-password.html >free xxx password
4h7NzzzK9
Posted by: Betty | October 15, 2007 7:57 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Fascinating site and well worth the visit again. I will be back soon http://www.geocities.com/freexxxsexvideo/pic/xxx-teen-movie.html >xxx teen movie
5Hc7B4DVaY
Posted by: James | October 15, 2007 3:55 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Fascinating site and well worth the visit again. I will be back soon http://www.geocities.com/freexxxsexvideo/pic/xxx-teen-movie.html >xxx teen movie
5Hc7B4DVaY
Posted by: James | October 15, 2007 3:54 AM
Report Offensive Comment
You have a very nice site. Other interesting resources http://www.geocities.com/thumbzillapost/hun/nike-air-flight-89.html >nike air flight 89
E93Gunu7R2
Posted by: Jennifer | October 13, 2007 7:41 PM
Report Offensive Comment
You have a very nice site. Other interesting resources http://www.geocities.com/thumbzillapost/hun/nike-air-flight-89.html >nike air flight 89
E93Gunu7R2
Posted by: Jennifer | October 13, 2007 7:41 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Greetings to the author of this page. Nice site, keep up the good work http://www.geocities.com/worldwallmaps/map/mariners-compass-quilt.html >mariners compass quilt
ohB852AEnv
Posted by: James | October 13, 2007 1:43 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Good design. I liked this site, it's neat. Good job! Would you please also visit my site? http://idisk.mac.com/thumbzillaporn/Public/hun/com-al4a.html >com al4a
6rx5JsTVQ3
Posted by: Jennifer | October 13, 2007 12:15 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages? Would you please also visit my homepage? http://www.geocities.com/worlddesertmap/wallmap/compass-pc-online-banking.html >compass pc online banking
jc3z5zYz6X
Posted by: Jessica | October 12, 2007 3:38 PM
Report Offensive Comment
c916t
Posted by: ma47zda | October 5, 2007 3:42 PM
Report Offensive Comment
I can't figure out who got murdered -- an adult named Farfour, a real child, a metaphorical child?
More than 50 years have gone by and hostility between Arabs and Jews is worse than ever, and it appears that neither group is going to go away.
Posted by: dreevesx | September 30, 2007 10:16 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Excellent! Good work! Would you please also visit my homepage? http://idisk.mac.com/telefon2/Public/one/halloween-props-scary-decorations.html >halloween props scary decorations
AWA443aEgrY4
Posted by: Betty | September 26, 2007 8:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Excellent! Good work! Would you please also visit my homepage? http://idisk.mac.com/telefon2/Public/one/halloween-props-scary-decorations.html >halloween props scary decorations
AWA443aEgrY4
Posted by: Betty | September 26, 2007 8:52 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Greetings to the author of this page. Nice site, keep up the good work http://www.geocities.com/vavagann/best/childrens-halloween-costumes.html >childrens halloween costumes
khf3hbx42
Posted by: Jennifer | September 14, 2007 11:20 PM
Report Offensive Comment
hjec ejhtgfp wnysxlpo ipkuxzj idtaygj hzilpt caqls
Posted by: ybel bpeglwqo | August 29, 2007 12:25 PM
Report Offensive Comment
hjec ejhtgfp wnysxlpo ipkuxzj idtaygj hzilpt caqls
Posted by: ybel bpeglwqo | August 29, 2007 12:24 PM
Report Offensive Comment
hjec ejhtgfp wnysxlpo ipkuxzj idtaygj hzilpt caqls
Posted by: ybel bpeglwqo | August 29, 2007 12:23 PM
Report Offensive Comment
My apologies for the reated posts-I had an online snag posting this time.
Posted by: Asim | July 31, 2007 9:29 AM
Report Offensive Comment
My apologies for the reated posts-I had an online snag posting this tiem.
Posted by: Asim | July 31, 2007 9:29 AM
Report Offensive Comment
This is another part of an going propaganda to deflect and divert world attention form the Fundamental issue:Israel's sixty year brutal military occupation of all of Arab historic PAlestine-the longest in modern times.Ms.Rosin insults our intelligence by pretending to be a liberal "Lefty," while absloutely no saying a single world about Israel's a racist, militaristic,expansionest,Apartheid jewish Theocarcy or about its school cruiculam and the indoctrination of jewish children of zionist racist haterd of Arabs and Muslims.
it's not indoctrination that motivates Palestinians to resist jewish occuopation of their homeland-the same motives that drove the French to resist nazi occupation of France and the same that drove the Alegerians to resist French occupation for 130 years.
The Janenese Kamakazi pilots were nitehr Muslim nor occupied when they conducted their suicide flights.
The following piece posted recently on On Faith by WP,goes along way to expalining the background of the Palestine issue which Ms.Rosin choose to deliberately ignore:
"Prof. Jackson thanks for a succinct and informative presentation on such critical issues-which issues were unfortunately hijacked and widely distorted not only by extremists who happen to be Muslim but also by Western media and self-serving politicians as well, at times due to ignorance and at others deliberately-observe for example President Bush’s truly regrettable juxtaposition of Islam and Fascism-Islamofascism. This WP form is an example of responsible media that allows Islamic experts to clarify and debate the issues, dispel the popular misconceptions about Islam and Muslims and ultimately bridge the gap. I would like to discuss one issue, Jihad-the aspect of “Suicide Bombings” or “Martyrdom missions”, depending on which side of the issue one stands.
The world renowned Islamic scholar and jurist Dr. Yousef Qaradawi is unequivocally main stream and falls within the definition of a Muslim by Quranic standards, namely that a Muslim is moderate by definition: the Quran says “We have created you a community of moderation…” Dr. Qaradawi is not therefore in the minority of Islamic jurists at all. Am interested to hear your opinion on the following reasoning behind his fatwa on martyrdom missions/or suicide bombings as I understand it and am not speaking on his behalf:
1// That Palestine is an occupied Arab Muslim land by a group of invaders-this time Jews-as it was invaded and occupied by the Crusaders (11th-13th century AD) who were ultimately evicted by Muslims; the conflict is strictly political and about the occupation of land and not in any way or shape against the Jews per se or their faith-as the case was with the German occupation of France in WW11 or the French occupation of Algeria 1832-1962;
2// The Quran rightfully sanctions defensive war against existential threat to any Muslim land or community and against those who evict Muslims from their homeland as is the case with millions of Palestinian refugees scattered in refugee camps who were evicted by Jewish terrorist gangs in 1947/8;
3// That Israel is armed to the teeth with the most sophisticated arsenal of modern conventional weapons backed by a formidable nuclear arsenal-compared to the dispossessed Palestinians who live under a brutal 60-year old military occupation in a state of Apartheid, starved, imprisoned or killed in their own homeland while the world looks on, in a state of human despair and desperation; with the Palestinians besieged from all directions in a big concentration camp called the West Bank/Gaza with meager or no weapons with which to defend their occupied land and families-resistance to occupation is legitimate and sanctioned by international law and by all religions and creeds;
4// That Israel systematically kills and murders Palestinians who are essentially made up of civilians-unlike Israel, they have no state and no standing army-and where essentially all Israelis are soldiers-of course with the exception of children-either in the standing regular army or in the reserve who have already completed their military service. Israel has a relatively smaller army with a large reserve standing by as a matter of strategic design;
5// That "Israel" never ever recognized the existence of the indigenous owners of Palestine-not even the State of Palestine as per UN 181;Golda Meir once said "What Palestinians?"
6// Israel never implemented a single UN resolution since its anomalous and questionable creation including UN 181 which created it-by devouring large chunks of the would be Palestine state in 1947/8.
7/// Jewish terrorist gangs such as Haganah, Stern and Irgun used extreme violence, bombings and massacres to ethnically frighten and ethnically cleanse Palestinians and destroyed over five hundred Palestinians villages to prevent their return as per UN 194-which 60 years later Israel still refuses to implement.
8// No land or resources left whatsoever for a Palestinian state: Israel occupied 78%of Arab historic Palestine in 1947/8 and 22% in 1967 (West Bank, Gaza and most importantly Jerusalem which was built by the Canaanite Arabs long before the Jews) AND again Israel annexed-slowly but surely by implanting settlements in full day light- over 50% of the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem-leaving 10% of original Arab historic Palestine for a Palestinian state ???The illegal Apartheid Wall only adds insult to injury and literally strangles the already suffocated Palestinians.
9/// Clearly Israel is any thing but inclined to peace and its intransigence is well known, it evens rejects the only possible solution: One secular democratic state -like the US-for all Arabs and Jews to replace the racist Apartheid exclusively Jewish militaristic theocracy. A ready list of Israeli excuses is presented at every turn to thwart any peaceful solution while the cancerous settlements devour more Palestinian land.
10 /// Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah and others were created in response to the extremely lengthy 60-year old brutal Israeli military occupation-the longest on going occupation in modern history; Hezbollah was created in response to Israeli occupation of Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 when Israel was evicted from Lebanon by Hezballah.
11 /// The issue is simple and clear: chronic brutal inhuman military Jewish occupation of all of Arab Palestine for sixty years which have and continues to torment Palestinians and drive them to despair has ultimately created martyrdom missions/suicide bombings.
With all of the above in mind, it seems that such missions are sanctioned even by Israelis: Ehud Barack, the present Israeli defense minister once said:”If I were a Palestinian, I would be a terrorist.” Of course the Jews employed such tactics of terrorism when they were not even occupied in 1947/8 to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, against the British mandate-King David Hotel bombing and against the institution that created Israel by assassinating the Count Bernadout in Jerusalem in 1947.
Prof. Jackson, again, with all of the above do you think that Suicide bombings/Martyrdom missions specifically targeting Israeli regular and reserve army-excluding children and non-combatants-are sanctioned from an Islamic point of view?."
Posted by: Asim | July 31, 2007 7:23 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Another piece of proaganda, this time from Ms.Rosin who tried but failed to disguise herself a liberal "Lefty," to deflect attention from the fundamental issue:Jewish invasion,occupation and creation of a jewish state by absolute terrorrism and violance for the past sixty years-the creation of a jewish state necessairly meant the Nehation of the Plalestine nation.Martydom or suicide bombing have nothing to do with indoctrination-but it has every thing to do with brutal military Occupation;Japenese Kamkazi pilots empolyed their suicidal flights and were not Muslims nor were they encapsulated in a huge jewish concentration camp called Gaza/West Bank. It's despaire that drives Palestinians to undergo these missions because they have no weapons with which to resist the israeli occupation. The following piece illustrartes the real situation in Palestine which I posted on On Faith recently:
"Prof. Jackson thanks for a succinct and informative presentation on such critical issues-which issues were unfortunately hijacked and widely distorted not only by extremists who happen to be Muslim but also by Western media and self-serving politicians as well, at times due to ignorance and at others deliberately-observe for example President Bush’s truly regrettable juxtaposition of Islam and Fascism-Islamofascism. This WP form is an example of responsible media that allows Islamic experts to clarify and debate the issues, dispel the popular misconceptions about Islam and Muslims and ultimately bridge the gap. I would like to discuss one issue, Jihad-the aspect of “Suicide Bombings” or “Martyrdom missions”, depending on which side of the issue one stands.
The world renowned Islamic scholar and jurist Dr. Yousef Qaradawi is unequivocally main stream and falls within the definition of a Muslim by Quranic standards, namely that a Muslim is moderate by definition: the Quran says “We have created you a community of moderation…” Dr. Qaradawi is not therefore in the minority of Islamic jurists at all. Am interested to hear your opinion on the following reasoning behind his fatwa on martyrdom missions/or suicide bombings as I understand it and am not speaking on his behalf:
1// That Palestine is an occupied Arab Muslim land by a group of invaders-this time Jews-as it was invaded and occupied by the Crusaders (11th-13th century AD) who were ultimately evicted by Muslims; the conflict is strictly political and about the occupation of land and not in any way or shape against the Jews per se or their faith-as the case was with the German occupation of France in WW11 or the French occupation of Algeria 1832-1962;
2// The Quran rightfully sanctions defensive war against existential threat to any Muslim land or community and against those who evict Muslims from their homeland as is the case with millions of Palestinian refugees scattered in refugee camps who were evicted by Jewish terrorist gangs in 1947/8;
3// That Israel is armed to the teeth with the most sophisticated arsenal of modern conventional weapons backed by a formidable nuclear arsenal-compared to the dispossessed Palestinians who live under a brutal 60-year old military occupation in a state of Apartheid, starved, imprisoned or killed in their own homeland while the world looks on, in a state of human despair and desperation; with the Palestinians besieged from all directions in a big concentration camp called the West Bank/Gaza with meager or no weapons with which to defend their occupied land and families-resistance to occupation is legitimate and sanctioned by international law and by all religions and creeds;
4// That Israel systematically kills and murders Palestinians who are essentially made up of civilians-unlike Israel, they have no state and no standing army-and where essentially all Israelis are soldiers-of course with the exception of children-either in the standing regular army or in the reserve who have already completed their military service. Israel has a relatively smaller army with a large reserve standing by as a matter of strategic design;
5// That "Israel" never ever recognized the existence of the indigenous owners of Palestine-not even the State of Palestine as per UN 181;Golda Meir once said "What Palestinians?"
6// Israel never implemented a single UN resolution since its anomalous and questionable creation including UN 181 which created it-by devouring large chunks of the would be Palestine state in 1947/8.
7/// Jewish terrorist gangs such as Haganah, Stern and Irgun used extreme violence, bombings and massacres to ethnically frighten and ethnically cleanse Palestinians and destroyed over five hundred Palestinians villages to prevent their return as per UN 194-which 60 years later Israel still refuses to implement.
8// No land or resources left whatsoever for a Palestinian state: Israel occupied 78%of Arab historic Palestine in 1947/8 and 22% in 1967 (West Bank, Gaza and most importantly Jerusalem which was built by the Canaanite Arabs long before the Jews) AND again Israel annexed-slowly but surely by implanting settlements in full day light- over 50% of the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem-leaving 10% of original Arab historic Palestine for a Palestinian state ???The illegal Apartheid Wall only adds insult to injury and literally strangles the already suffocated Palestinians.
9/// Clearly Israel is any thing but inclined to peace and its intransigence is well known, it evens rejects the only possible solution: One secular democratic state -like the US-for all Arabs and Jews to replace the racist Apartheid exclusively Jewish militaristic theocracy. A ready list of Israeli excuses is presented at every turn to thwart any peaceful solution while the cancerous settlements devour more Palestinian land.
10 /// Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah and others were created in response to the extremely lengthy 60-year old brutal Israeli military occupation-the longest on going occupation in modern history; Hezbollah was created in response to Israeli occupation of Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 when Israel was evicted from Lebanon by Hezballah.
11 /// The issue is simple and clear: chronic brutal inhuman military Jewish occupation of all of Arab Palestine for sixty years which have and continues to torment Palestinians and drive them to despair has ultimately created martyrdom missions/suicide bombings.
With all of the above in mind, it seems that such missions are sanctioned even by Israelis: Ehud Barack, the present Israeli defense minister once said:”If I were a Palestinian, I would be a terrorist.” Of course the Jews employed such tactics of terrorism when they were not even occupied in 1947/8 to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, against the British mandate-King David Hotel bombing and against the institution that created Israel by assassinating the Count Bernadout in Jerusalem in 1947.
Prof. Jackson, again, with all of the above do you think that Suicide bombings/Martyrdom missions specifically targeting Israeli regular and reserve army-excluding children and non-combatants-are sanctioned from an Islamic point of view?."
Posted by: Asim | July 31, 2007 5:23 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Another piece of proaganda from Ms.Rosen who tried but failed to gisguise herself a liberal "Left," to deflect from the fundamental issue:Jewish invasion,occupation and creation of a jewish state by absolute terrorrism and violance for the past sixty years;martydom or suicide bombing have nothing to do with indoctrination-but it has every thing to do with brutal military Occupation;Japenese Kamkazi pilots empolyed their suicidal flights and were not Muslims nor were they encapsulated in a huge jewish concentration camp called Gaza/West Bank It's despaire that drives Palestinians to undergo these missions because they have no weapons with which to resist the israeli occupation. The following pice illustrartes the real situation in Palestine which I posted on On Faith recently:
"Prof. Jackson thanks for a succinct and informative presentation on such critical issues-which issues were unfortunately hijacked and widely distorted not only by extremists who happen to be Muslim but also by Western media and self-serving politicians as well, at times due to ignorance and at others deliberately-observe for example President Bush’s truly regrettable juxtaposition of Islam and Fascism-Islamofascism. This WP form is an example of responsible media that allows Islamic experts to clarify and debate the issues, dispel the popular misconceptions about Islam and Muslims and ultimately bridge the gap. I would like to discuss one issue, Jihad-the aspect of “Suicide Bombings” or “Martyrdom missions”, depending on which side of the issue one stands.
The world renowned Islamic scholar and jurist Dr. Yousef Qaradawi is unequivocally main stream and falls within the definition of a Muslim by Quranic standards, namely that a Muslim is moderate by definition: the Quran says “We have created you a community of moderation…” Dr. Qaradawi is not therefore in the minority of Islamic jurists at all. Am interested to hear your opinion on the following reasoning behind his fatwa on martyrdom missions/or suicide bombings as I understand it and am not speaking on his behalf:
1// That Palestine is an occupied Arab Muslim land by a group of invaders-this time Jews-as it was invaded and occupied by the Crusaders (11th-13th century AD) who were ultimately evicted by Muslims; the conflict is strictly political and about the occupation of land and not in any way or shape against the Jews per se or their faith-as the case was with the German occupation of France in WW11 or the French occupation of Algeria 1832-1962;
2// The Quran rightfully sanctions defensive war against existential threat to any Muslim land or community and against those who evict Muslims from their homeland as is the case with millions of Palestinian refugees scattered in refugee camps who were evicted by Jewish terrorist gangs in 1947/8;
3// That Israel is armed to the teeth with the most sophisticated arsenal of modern conventional weapons backed by a formidable nuclear arsenal-compared to the dispossessed Palestinians who live under a brutal 60-year old military occupation in a state of Apartheid, starved, imprisoned or killed in their own homeland while the world looks on, in a state of human despair and desperation; with the Palestinians besieged from all directions in a big concentration camp called the West Bank/Gaza with meager or no weapons with which to defend their occupied land and families-resistance to occupation is legitimate and sanctioned by international law and by all religions and creeds;
4// That Israel systematically kills and murders Palestinians who are essentially made up of civilians-unlike Israel, they have no state and no standing army-and where essentially all Israelis are soldiers-of course with the exception of children-either in the standing regular army or in the reserve who have already completed their military service. Israel has a relatively smaller army with a large reserve standing by as a matter of strategic design;
5// That "Israel" never ever recognized the existence of the indigenous owners of Palestine-not even the State of Palestine as per UN 181;Golda Meir once said "What Palestinians?"
6// Israel never implemented a single UN resolution since its anomalous and questionable creation including UN 181 which created it-by devouring large chunks of the would be Palestine state in 1947/8.
7/// Jewish terrorist gangs such as Haganah, Stern and Irgun used extreme violence, bombings and massacres to ethnically frighten and ethnically cleanse Palestinians and destroyed over five hundred Palestinians villages to prevent their return as per UN 194-which 60 years later Israel still refuses to implement.
8// No land or resources left whatsoever for a Palestinian state: Israel occupied 78%of Arab historic Palestine in 1947/8 and 22% in 1967 (West Bank, Gaza and most importantly Jerusalem which was built by the Canaanite Arabs long before the Jews) AND again Israel annexed-slowly but surely by implanting settlements in full day light- over 50% of the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem-leaving 10% of original Arab historic Palestine for a Palestinian state ???The illegal Apartheid Wall only adds insult to injury and literally strangles the already suffocated Palestinians.
9/// Clearly Israel is any thing but inclined to peace and its intransigence is well known, it evens rejects the only possible solution: One secular democratic state -like the US-for all Arabs and Jews to replace the racist Apartheid exclusively Jewish militaristic theocracy. A ready list of Israeli excuses is presented at every turn to thwart any peaceful solution while the cancerous settlements devour more Palestinian land.
10 /// Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah and others were created in response to the extremely lengthy 60-year old brutal Israeli military occupation-the longest on going occupation in modern history; Hezbollah was created in response to Israeli occupation of Lebanon from 1982 to 2000 when Israel was evicted from Lebanon by Hezballah.
11 /// The issue is simple and clear: chronic brutal inhuman military Jewish occupation of all of Arab Palestine for sixty years which have and continues to torment Palestinians and drive them to despair has ultimately created martyrdom missions/suicide bombings.
With all of the above in mind, it seems that such missions are sanctioned even by Israelis: Ehud Barack, the present Israeli defense minister once said:”If I were a Palestinian, I would be a terrorist.” Of course the Jews employed such tactics of terrorism when they were not even occupied in 1947/8 to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, against the British mandate-King David Hotel bombing and against the institution that created Israel by assassinating the Count Bernadout in Jerusalem in 1947.
Prof. Jackson, again, with all of the above do you think that Suicide bombings/Martyrdom missions specifically targeting Israeli regular and reserve army-excluding children and non-combatants-are sanctioned from an Islamic point of view?."
Posted by: Asim | July 31, 2007 5:13 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Dear Ms Rosin
It is so heartening and encouraging to see the extreme efforts Washington Post (the genius idea of Sally Quinn and Jon Meacham to start this forum) is making to bring peace and understanding in the world by encouraging dialogue with Muslims and trying to incorporate the peace loving Muslims around the world into the family of all believers.
For eight years in India, until I finished my schooling, I attended a school which took great pains in inculculate a sense of national unity in us. As part of the school curriculum we learnt the verses of Kabir, a Sufi mystic, who was claimed by Hindus and Muslims alike as their own. We celebrated the religious holidays of the major religions in India. Such positive indoctrination worked wonders for me.
Soja John Thaikattil
Sydney, Australia
Posted by: Soja John Thaikattil, Sydney, Australia | July 31, 2007 3:46 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Jamal is a filthy Jew parading as a moslem. Not the first that a zionpig would be spreading misleading propaganda. BTW, no moslem would have the name Jamal, which means camel in Arabic.
Posted by: soldier of virtue | July 30, 2007 11:53 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Jamal,
Thank you for your clear, unequivical condemnation of Martyrmouse.
Ishmal Jonathan Byrd tried to condemn it but couldn't quite get there.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now | July 30, 2007 10:16 PM
Report Offensive Comment
As a practicing Moslem (from India), I am appalled by this atrocious indoctrination of children to hate. Why has NOT A SINGLE imam condemned this?
Palestinian society is very sick and violent. I can see the craziness that Israel faces. This would never be tolerated in India.
Posted by: Jamal | July 30, 2007 9:51 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Thank you, Ms Rosin, for being willing to talk about the warping of young Palestinian children's minds. How can there be peace in that part of the world when children are systematically indoctrinated in such a way?
Posted by: Janet | July 30, 2007 8:25 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Hanna Rosin's article is akin to a burgler furious because the homeowner called the police. She's an absolute idiot.
Posted by: Joe Nash | July 30, 2007 8:02 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Even before AIPAC hijacked our government, Walt Disney warned us about the greedy hooked nosed devils who were interested in selling pornography to children for a fast back. He would have wholeheartly accepted how one of his iconic creations was being used to protest the upsurping of a a defensless people who children are murdered by a brutal and barbaric occupation force. On the other hand, he would have been horrified to learn that one of those hooked nosed devils used his beloved company's money to fund and produce immoral and degrading movies under this banner of touchstone pictures, which is a direct subsidiary of walt disney productions.
Posted by: Soldier Of Virtue | July 30, 2007 7:57 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Only a fool will expect the child of a couple of illegal land squatters to tell the truth about Islam or Palestinians. While we're at it, why don't we ask a nig if OJ committed murder too. Idiots.
Posted by: Joe Nash | July 30, 2007 7:46 PM
Report Offensive Comment
"Leave Iraq Now"
Then let me be the first to condemn the cartoon, the mouse, the people who produce it, Hamas, Hizbullah, the Jihadists, etc etc. I also don't do it needing to highlight any specific atrocities committed by Israel or the US, the world is witness to them. Neither does those atrocities committed give a muslim anywhere the right to kill innocent people or him or herself for that matter. This is diametrically opposed to the teachings of the religion all of which are easy to ascertain if that is the goal. However, if a regular muslim or a prominent scholar came on here to say that "Islam is Peace", then they are wrong. Islam means submission to God's rules, and God's laws. And part of God's rules and laws are how muslims must deal justly with EVERYone, regardless of religion or lack thereof.
In an authentic narration from the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, he said: "If one of you kills a non-Muslim unjustly (i.e. he's innocent, has committed no crime) under the protection of the muslim land, he would never smell the fragrance of paradise even though it's fragrance travels for 40 years." In the Quran, God says (paraphrasing) "if you kill one innocent person unjustly then its as if you have killed all of mankind, and if you save one innocent person it is as if you have saved all of mankind (this means in your reward with your Creator)."
So any of the verses that you think contradict this with regards to fighting, then you are mistaken, you have read only part of the verses or not all the verses in their context. The narration and verse that i mentioned above affectively preclude a muslim from ever being allowed to commit an act of atrocity. But as we are all well aware, not everyone follows the rules or they are lied to about what the rules are.
Furthermore, it's simply wrong to state that Islam teaches hatred for Jews. There are muslims who teach hatred for Jews, or people who call themselves that, there are christians who do it as well, but Islam as a religion, the Quran as a book and Muhammad as the Last Prophet, peace be upon him, do not teach hatred against Jews. I am a devout muslim and I don't hate Jews, i've been a muslim for 14 years and have never read a single thing that told me i should hate them. I am a white American, I wear the long white tunic to Walmart or the Mall (the ones you see worn if you see Saudi Arabia on the news), I have a beard you could get lost in, those are outward signs of course (and actually mean nothing about real piety in the religion) but to people they only understand the outward signs of anything they don't understand inwardly, its expected. But I don't hate Jews. Many Jews of their own volition become Muslims.
What is hated was the *actions* that various Jewish tribes at certain times in history took with regards to Prophets, peace be upon all of them, who were sent to them. Either they were reviled or they were killed and God punished those tribes for this. This is mentioned in the bible as well. You don't hate people, you hate what they do. And whether or not you hate what they do is contingent upon if what they are doing is hated by God.
There is nothing worthy of worship except God, your creator
Posted by: Ismael (Jonathan) Byrd | July 30, 2007 7:20 PM
Report Offensive Comment
As the author mentioned, the scary thing is that the propagandists are not some fringe alienated group.
They are mainstream.
Posted by: x2 | July 30, 2007 7:05 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Hamas is following a tradition in education that Wahabists in Saudi Arabia also have followed - creating a toxic anti-Semitic education system. The same pattern was evident in Nazi Germany. So repellant though the practice is, it is not unique to Hamas or to radical Muslim groups.
It is chilling to consider a possible stream of future suicide-bombers emerging from factory production schools. I can only hope that these Muslim children share the same low regard for their schoolwork that infects many American children. In this case they will have a better reason.
Posted by: StillaScot | July 30, 2007 6:49 PM
Report Offensive Comment
No surprise that Mickey Mouse hates Jews...so did Walt Disney.
Posted by: Luke | July 30, 2007 4:06 PM
Report Offensive Comment
OMAR,
Thank you for making my case.
I, as well as others here, will note that you fail to condemn the use of Martyrmouse, In fact, you try to justify it by pleading the case of your Palistinian brothers and sisters.
As expected.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now | July 30, 2007 3:18 PM
Report Offensive Comment
Omar: The Hamas movement is not a bunch of depraved and oppressed Palestinians, they are a well organized mass-political movement whose ranks are swelled with middle class professionals and is funded by Islamist organizations (and terrorist cells) from across the globe. If anything, they are a totalitarian Islamofascist (and yes I am ready to defend that term and explain in full why I call it that) party who are preying on a generation of children who have known only violence and martyrdom in the name of allah.
Posted by: Toulouse Roy | July 30, 2007 3:03 PM
Report Offensive Comment
leave iraq:
they destroyed their mickey character and in your eyes, this is hatred from the pages of Quran. That's Islamophobia.
if you want a non-religious reason that generations of oppressed, occupied, murdered, raped, tortured palestinians are mad at the world, I'm sure you could come up with a few, but no... hate is written in their holy books.
/rolls eyes
Posted by: omar | July 30, 2007 2:20 PM
Report Offensive Comment
*sigh*
Any jokes about Guess where Walt Disney Reincarnated aside...
(with deadpan understatement.)
Yep, that's pretty messed-up.
What would Captain Kangaroo do about this?
This is one of those things you just look at and have to throw up your hands and sputter a bit.
Fortunately, at least, crass manipulations like this have a way of backfiring when the kids get a little older, and it could actually provide some purchase for people to start teaching better.
And, I mean, what peace-loving imam hasn't just been waiting for the chance to say, 'Ok, this stuff is Mickey-Mouse thinking, right here.'
:)
Posted by: Paganplace | July 30, 2007 11:53 AM
Report Offensive Comment
Finally.
Someone to speak the truth with a real life example about what Islam is all about on this On Faith site after having to endure all that "Islam is peace" nonsense last week.
Islam teaches hatred towards all non-muslims, particularly Jews. The Hamas government's sponsored Farfour the Martyrmouse is living, undeniable proof of how deep this hatred goes, and it starts right there in the pages of the "Holy Koran". A hatred so deeply believed in that there is a felt need to teach that hatred to children so that they too can become "good peaceful muslims".
What say you to Farfour Siddiqi?, Ramadan?, Ellison?, Mr. warm and fuzzy "peace and tolerance" Mufti of Cairo, Lebanon? Would you like to take a hand in defending Farfour?
For the past week we have had to bear the incessant rantings of so called islamic scholars and "moderates". Many posters say they are saddened by the animosity shown towards these muslim scholars and ask "Can't we all just be nice to another? Read this story about Farfour again and use the link provided and come back and explain to me why I need to be more kind and tolerant to the defenders of Islam.
This story ought to tell us something about the depths of muslim hatred found in the middle east against jews. Did any of those scholars last week complain about use of Farfour the mouse to teach hatred to children? No. Not one mentioned it. They'd rather spend time telling us how misunderstood Islam is and telling us the jihad does not mean holy war. Islam is not misunderstood by everyone. Farfour is teaching us all how sick, perverted and hateful the so called Islamic religion can be.
I challenge anyone who sees this post, particularly those muslims who I know come to this website and post to defend criticism of Islam by calling such criticism "Islamophobia", to defend Farfour and explain please how the religious justification for teaching children hatred.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now | July 30, 2007 11:42 AM
Report Offensive Comment
If you study the content of http://www.hoax-buster.org and understand it your question will be answered, the shameful nature of accounting compared to martyrdom.
Human beings are transparent. Nothing they do is all that mysterious. One may be required to unload a bit of absolute truth to unmask Muslims. Martyrdom is a game with deadly consequences but a game none the less. Folks die racing automobiles too ya know.
Posted by: BGone | July 30, 2007 11:21 AM
Report Offensive Comment
The comments to this entry are closed.












http://index1.biolop.com >crf 100f
http://index1.rfrltk.com >dave pugh and clear channel