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I was sickened reading the comments about Falwell. It reinforced the comment I heard one time, "the whole world is a big insane assylum and the "true" Christians are the caretakers." I have heard the comments of many people who are drunk with insanity. The deceived person is the last one to know. Please pray and ask God to open your eyes for you are truly blind.

Jeff

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Catherine thanks for a good commentary that takes in both sides of Falwell and the people swirling in his wake. Be they his devotee or devourer, both could take away something from your post.

"Why Jerry had to be so sick and die so early and leave us so quick?"

Probably because he ate junk food, was obese, took little exercise and had clogged up arteries. He also had a lot of unresolved anger about lesbians, gays, liberals etc. Most people attack the things that they fear most in themselves so I wonder what that says about the real Jerry Falwell.

In any case he had his full Biblical 3 score years and ten in a comfortable lifestyle, unlike so many people in the World who continue to suffer because of the greed of the "Christian" West. What about some sympathy for the suffering people of Iraq, Darfur, Gaza, Zimbabwe etc who need our prayer a lot more than the affluent Falwell family.

"Why Jerry had to be so sick and die so early and leave us so quick?"

Probably because he ate junk food, was obese, took little exercise and had clogged up arteries. He also had a lot of unresolved anger about lesbians, gays, liberals etc. Most people attack the things that they fear most in themselves so I wonder what that says about the real Jerry Falwell.

In any case he had his full Biblical 3 score years and ten in a comfortable lifestyle, unlike so many people in the World who continue to suffer because of the greed of the "Christian" West. What about some sympathy for the suffering people of Iraq, Darfur, Gaza, Zimbabwe etc who need our prayer a lot more than the affluent Falwell family.

"Why Jerry had to be so sick and die so early and leave us so quick?"

Probably because he ate junk food, was obese, took little exercise and had clogged up arteries. He also had a lot of unresolved anger about lesbians, gays, liberals etc. Most people attack the things that they fear most in themselves so I wonder what that says about the real Jerry Falwell.

In any case he had his full Biblical 3 score years and ten in a comfortable lifestyle, unlike so many people in the World who continue to suffer because of the greed of the "Christian" West. What about some sympathy for the suffering people of Iraq, Darfur, Gaza, Zimbabwe etc who need our prayer a lot more than the affluent Falwell family.

I'm in no mood to be charitable about the passing of Falwell. He was one of those who claimed that AIDS was God's punishment on homosexuals. Anyone who claims that someone's death is God's punishment is morally guilty of murder.

Before too many readers get riled up, please remember that quite a number of posters choose words intended to "troll", or provoke a response. They are not necessarily posting reasoned arguments intended to persuade others, nor posting their own consistent, heartfelt feelings. One must expect a lot of noise from a public internet, and interpret words and their worth accordingly.

With that said, I am a Christian and was not much of a fan of the public Jerry Falwell. While I do not question that he did some good, I also do not question that his words (perhaps ill-reported) caused a lot of pain. I also believe that there are a great many people who seek to use religious belief to manipulate, just as there are others - as there always have been - who are threatened by religious conviction.

I believe we are seeing a lot of both in the public reporting of Falwell's death. On the one hand, there are those of conservative religious convictions who are seeing very clearly the ugliness of hate being spewed on the occasion of someone's death. On the other hand, we have some who are seeing someone whose name (with Pat Robertson's and the Ayatollah Khomeni's, for two examples) has become synonymous in many circles with the ultimate in religious excesses in politics.

The real people are being lost in favor of perceptions of whom and what they were. Those who manipulate perceptions, and increase the noise and misunderstanding, are increasingly made to seem influential. I believe this is why Christ, so often, preached that godly men must be in this world, but not of it.

As C.S. Lewis wrote, it is "sweet, sweet poison" to be able to add "thus saith the Lord" as an exclamation point to our own personal dislikes. I believe that such underlies much of the venom being spewed against Falwell and his memory. As others have pointed out, much of the understanding (including my own) of Falwell and what he actually said and stood for was always based upon a simplistic hearing, or listening to commentators (which nearly always signifies a simplistic (mis)understanding).

That Falwell's followers were used politically is another point. But let us not blame "organized religion" for this. Organized government, organized journalism, organized lobbyists... Pretty much anything men organize can and is usually corrupted. Religion, like money, like land, like good reputations, or anything desirable, is used by some.

Mr. Falwell was raised by atheists. That means he came from a lack of religious belief and feeling. Any one of us who comes from a family background we had to rebel against will understand this, and understand and express (if honest) how much we have to work to build foundations of our own choosing. Mr. Falwell built quite a bit. How much of that was incomplete is another point. Perhaps I will be one of the few commentators who calls Mr. Falwell a "rebel".

If we can choose to ignore those words which are posted for their sensationalism, and discuss some of the valid and valuable points Mr. Falwell's passing raises in our debates, wouldn't that be a good thing? And despite whether one is "anti-" or "pro-Falwell", it's up to each one of us to be better than that which we complain of.

Mr and Mrs Burns wrote:
"You may not like the man. The question is do you believe in GOD and the Bible?"

No, I don't beleive in god or the Bible, and I certainly didn't like Jerry Falwell.

Your point?

Brother Jerry was not a man of hate. In case you don't know ... God hates sin, but loves the sinner. Brother Jerry preached the true word of God. My prayers go out to his family, and for the Children of God who are mourning this great loss. May he rest in peace!

I have lived in Southwest Virginia all my life and Falwell was nothing more than an embarassment. I remember in some of my travels around the country, I would meet someone and start talking to them, eventually telling them where I was from. About 8 times out of 10 the person would say, "Oh...Jerry Falwell country..." or something even worse. I am not a hateful person, but in this case I am quite sincere when I say about Jerry Falwell's death, good riddance. He was nothing put pure evil. May he rot in hell.

No one's mind or heart will be changed by these postings. Although I think many of us have decided to take our gloves off out of sheer provocation.

It's getting harder and harder to live by the Platinum Rule, ain't it?

I am learning that the rules of political engagement have changed in America. It is now nastier, more personal and so very often off-topic. For example, WHAT does an opinion on abortion have to do with fighting a war? Apparently, plenty nowadays. Consider any mess we're in now and I can tell you that it's because of rabid partisanship on both sides. Of course Democrats and liberal types have been slow to this change. We blinked. We lost elections. We thought we'd "play fair" and hand off the 2000 election "for the sake of the country."

What a big fat mistake.

"Reverend" Falwell did not play by any rules. He helped develop the politics of personal destruction. Regardless of how you fee about him, you should really consider this one of his largest (not "greatest") accomplishments. If you think he's just the best thing sinced sliced cheese, well good for you. If you don't, I consider you my friend and a real American.

fallwell's new home is in the firey depths, where all of the gay angels in heaven can laugh at him.

Falwell's legacy will be shared by anyone on the edge of mental balance. People who weave their way through the Scriptures picking out what they like and ignoring what they don't. Talking tough about the hate in the bible and ignoring the lines that bring us together. Talking tough about conflict and supporting this country and yet not being able to bring themselves to serve in the military. The conservatives in this country abound who don't walk the talk. One may add Falwell's name to the long list of ChickenHawks in this country from John Wayne to Dick Cheney. That is their legacy.

"Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints."

Dr. Jerry Falwell, long time Senior Pastor of Thomas Road Baptist Church and President and founder of Liberty University in Lynchburg Virginia has died and went home to be with the Lord. He was called home to Christ today at the age of 73, the very same age as my father, who presently is recovering in the hospital in Honolulu Hawaii from a massive heart attack.

I greatly respected Jerry Falwell for his courageous stand for Biblical Christianity is a pagan and godless world. Jerry Falwell was a giant amongst mere mortals and ascended to the pinnacle of world influence during the late 1970's and throughout the 1980's, as Falwell's, Moral Majority became a highly organized and steadfast force against the forces of insidious evil that threaten to destroy this country from within, such as homosexuality, abortion and the complete destruction of Biblical Morality.

I personally have a great debt to pay Jerry Falwell, since God used men like Falwell, Billy Graham and Josh McDowell to understand Christianity better when I was a teenager.

I greatly mourn the loss of this Evangelical Warrior and Crusader for truth and justice in American Civilization.

Rest in Peace, Mighty Warrior, I shall see you in heaven, where God will wipe away every tear away from our eyes and the former things are passed away,

Go now, Dr, Falwell, into the loving arms of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who awaits you with open arms, beyond the Crystal shore.

All my prayers are with you Brother Falwell, your stand for truth and righteousness was once of the major reasons Ronald Reagan came to power in the Conservative Resurgence of 1980. I will always remember you mighty warrior. May God bless you now for the works of your hands.

Please pray for the family, friends of Jerry Falwell, a titan of righteousness in a sea of wickedness.

Jerry Falwell taught me a lot about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jerry Falwell and men of God like Billy Graham taught me spiritual answers to life's most important questions including, "Who am I?", "Where did I come from?" , "What is the meaning of life?", "Where will I go after I die?", "Is there a God?", "Is Jesus Christ the Son of God and did He die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead in order to give us eternal life through faith in His name?" and "Have I acknowledged that I have sinned against God by breaking His Ten Commandments?"

The matter of your eternal destiny and relationship with God through Jesus Christ is a matter of paramount importance. Jerry Falwell would have asked, the following: Have you repented of your sins and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior? Have you realized that have broken God's Holy Law, that you are a sinner who deserves to be sent to hell for eternity because of your sinful rebellion against God? Have you also heard about the Good News Tim, that though "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" and "The wages of Sin is death" the great news is that the "Free Gift of eternal life is through Jesus Christ our Lord"

The Bible says, "But God demonstrates His own love towards us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for Us" (Romans 6:23).

"That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead you shall be saved" (Romans 10:9)

"Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (Romans 10:13).

"So then, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God" (Romans 10:17).

"Truly these times of ignorance God has overlooked but now commands all men everywhere to repent" (Acts 17:30).

"Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6).

"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21).

I thank God for Jerry Falwell a faithful Evangelist, Pastor and preacher of righteousness whose network of Conservative Evangelicals and other social conservatives gave impetus for the Reagan Revolution. May Jerry's Falwell's vision for America be carried out in our generation.

As for Jerry Falwell, "the wages of sin is death", and Jerry has now been paid in full.

No, Anonymous, God hated his only son, Jesus, and had him tortured to death. A classic Oedipal drama.

Thomas
"God hates with love" God hates sin period,its the only thing He hates.

If God will burn me in hell out of love, then so be it...if he will love the likes of Falwell and Robertson, if he will let murderers and rapists to heaven and deny me, then so be it - he still isn't my God. If I am bound by his laws, then so be it, but his representatives are just like me, the Bible has taught them nothing. If you think that you have the monopoly on truth and justice, then so be it. However, when you reach for the helping hand that God denies you, those you condemned will not help. If your God leaves you in the dark, then in darkness you will dwell, but that is the fate that you have made. God is not perfect - he is flawed and hateful just like man, and man does not decide justice, so if your God is subject to his creation, then he is therefore not my God. You wonder why I am an atheist. There is no love in your religion.

If God will burn me in hell out of love, then so be it...if he will love the likes of Falwell and Robertson, if he will let murderers and rapists to heaven and deny me, then so be it - he still isn't my God. If I am bound by his laws, then so be it, but his representatives are just like me, the Bible has taught them nothing. If you think that you have the monopoly on truth and justice, then so be it. However, when you reach for the helping hand that God denies you, those you condemned will not help. If your God leaves you in the dark, then in darkness you will dwell, but that is the fate that you have made. God is not perfect - he is flawed and hateful just like man, and man does not decide justice, so if your God is subject to his creation, then he is therefore not my God. You wonder why I am an atheist. There is no love in that religion.

And you, Thomas, Twitchell, know the real gospel?

That was one long, drawn-out post, and you got it all wrong.

There is a God, but IT is not Jesus Christ, or Allah, or Jehovah, IT is IT. And IT loves everybody equally because we all came from IT and we all will return to IT.

"You were right Luke, you were right."

These maladaptations are not the cause of calamities, they are the result of calamity. The calamity of sin.

The entirety of the human race is as evil as it can get. What it produces it produces in kind. Even the good that it does is nothing more, the Scriptures say, than filthy mentrual cloths.

For Billy Graham to give a positive account of Jerry Falwell, is laughable. Billy Graham said, "They may not know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something they do not have, and they turn to the only light the have and I think that they are saved and they are going to be with us in heaven." To this Robert Schuller remarked, "What, what I hear you saying, that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and soul and life, even if they have been born in darkness and have never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you are saying?"
Billy Graham responded, "Yes, it is."

We cannot take the word of the heretic BG even if the SBC built a statue for his followers to faun over. Jerry Falwell's rejection of the foundations of the protestant faith, do not subject him to praise, either, and while he was alive his praise of Billy Graham, was so much smoke and mirrors.

For the many good things they did we can laud, but we with equal volume must denounce their unfaithfulness to the Word of God.

Those of you who know Schuller, mentor and friend of Rick Warren, may not be aware of his occult teachings. The lack of critical review on the part of Falwell speaks more loudly than all that he did well, however.

His innability, or unwillingness to confront the errors within himself and the SBC, and evangelicalism in general, will follow all that he has done.

"How ironic it would be if it turned out that Jerry was WRONG all these years, and God really does love everyone equally."

You see this kind of ignorance, of the American people so clearly displayed in this thread. Jerry Falwell did preach equallity of the love of God for all people. The problem is, it is not true. God has one kind of love for his bride, another for pretenders. Jerry Falwell's message did penetrate society and it was a false Gospel that lead people to make foolish statement like "God is love, therefore he loves everyone, and everyone equally." This is not true.

Who Falwell was to God, and who he is now, is not ours to judge. As is apparent by the comments here in these threads, good judgement is not in great supply. We are required none the less to judge righteous judgment. The ignorant voices on both sides will be silenced one day, of that we all know to be true. The ignorance of Jerry Falwell is silenced, but his words will live on, in hearts, in minds, on paper. His righteous judgements, also.

None of that has anything whatsoever to do with the truth. Jesus, the Word of God said, "Father, sanctify them by your Truth, Your Word is Truth...I am the Way the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by me....No one is able to come to me unless the Father draws him, and him I will raise up at the last day."

The truth is God hates and he does so in love. "Thus you also have those who hold to the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate...But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate...Jacob have I loved, but Esau I have hated...six things the Lord hates...." He hates sin and he hates the one who rejects his covenant and clings to sin. He will not destroy them in hell because he loves them! Noone, save the athiest, can say that God loves the evil doer, as is so abundantly clear in this thread. Each person's conception of God is that he hates those who hate one another for evil motives. Hate, however, requires truth and for something to be hated requires that something else trascends it as worthy of love. Since it has been amply demonstrated here that none of us is worthy, it leaves only the arbiter or Truth who is worthy, and that is God.

This is the judgement then, that light is in the world but men love darkness rather than light. They erect statues to venerate men, they tear then down to venerate ideas and indoing so they do not honor God who dwells in upproachable light, whose image can neither be discovered nor distroyed. That, they hate. And they not honoring God as God, he gives them up to their sin, to do to themselves and to others what pleased them and not him. His wrath against sin is being poured out, and that wrath is the sins of mankind, good and bad. One day it will be summed up in the Wrath of the final judgement of the world.

One thing that Falwell never told anyone is that God is an equal opportunity hater. He hates us all. In his love he chose some that he might also show his favor. And he shows his love in this, that while we were dead is sin, Christ died for us. For God loved the world in this way that he gave his only Son that those who were believing in him might not perish under the weight of the wrath of God that is being poured out against all ungodlyness and men, which included Jerry Falwell, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness. This holy Son of God was give to the Father for the sins of His bride, and none other. Because of this the nations rage and plot the destruction of his holy ones. To them he has said, "If you are believing, then you have eternal life, but if you are not, you are condemned already." Those of the resurrection know him as risen, those who are dead do not. If today you hear this, repent of your unbelief, confess with you mouth what your heart knows as the TRUTH, and you will be saved.

Far and away people like Falwell have a zeal for God, but it is without knowledge. It beckons the selfish, for those who see the provision of the Lord as a means to escape, and not as the means by which God is glorifying himself through his creation. But, he was lightyears beyond the darkness of this world, simply by his acknowledgement that he had a Lord who owned him.

It is this that separates the believer from the unbeliever. We have been set free from the slavery and the condemnation due our sins, and have been made slaves to righteousness that is found only in the life, death and resurrection of Christ. It is not we who are righteous, we are sinners, in Christ alone is there Righteousness, in him alone is eternal life.

Those of you who hated Falwell, it is because you hate God. You hated Falwell because your own deeds were evil and Falwell, who in and of himself was evil also, shown the light of Christ on you sin. And you love your sin more than you love the light. I did not particularly like Falwell nor his secular civil religion. But, his appeal to an absolute, like a light in a dark room, sent the cockroaches scurrying and the rates skretching to the "safety" of their self- defined darkness. Darkness beckons to darkness, for in the darkness, who knows what is right?

In the end, those who hate are closer to the life of God than the athiest who has no object of hate except himself. Jesus said that he would have us hot or cold, rather than apathetic. Those without feeling are beyond remedy. Those who hate, still feel, and are still the objects of his affections should he choose to reveal himself to them. It was those who hated him that he died for, though he did not reveal himself to all. Only to some are given the right to become the sons of God. Those who are born by the will of God, from above, by the Spirit, to them it has been granted to understand the mysteries of the kingdom, but to the others it has not. This is the Truth, the one which Falwell rejected. It is the heart of Christianity, the reason for the proclamation of the good news to those who have ears to hear. Those who killed Christ, killed him because he called them children of their father the devil, which we all are. Some of us, he has slain by the brightness of his coming and called us out of sheol, and has given us new life according to the Spirit of Christ. As he said, he has life in himself and gives to whom ever he pleases, not that they choose him, but that he has chosen them. Jesus did not pray for the world, but in John 17.9, he excludes it. The world is scheduled for destruction and John the baptist was the one who came making the ways of the Lord straight, warning men to flee the coming judgment.

If you hear this voice, today, as long as it is called today, do not harden your heart as you have done before. Instead, ask for mercy and you will go home justified, as we hope that Falwell was.

Do not be deceived, Falwell's death is the occassion of my writting this, and you would not be reading it, if it was left in your control. Hear this, The Lord our God is one Lord, and his name is Jealous, his name is Jesus the Christ.

I really wish they would have never posted this topic and allowed discussion on the passing of Falwell.

Reading the many posts on all the different threads has almost taken my faith of the inherent good in people away.

I am repulsed by the hatred so many of you are spewing. He does not derserve to be that reviled. He was neither Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Amin, nor any of those other murderous souls that roamed and still roam the earth.

Be very, very ashamed of yourselves.

"False-hearted judges, dying in the webs that they spin,
Only a matter of time, 'til night comes stepping in."
-Bob Dylan

"False-hearted judges, dying in the webs that they spin,
Only a matter of time, 'til night comes stepping in."
-Bob Dylan

John said, "Jerry Falwell clearly condemned homosexuality as sin - a sin like adultery, greed, lust, lying, cheating and stealing - as well.." But the empasis was on homosexuality with less said about the rest. This was marketing, pure and simple. Rally the mindless around a common enemy and they will join you and even send you money.

Christ is a lot more about homosexuality as a sin but if you look at the Christian hucksters like Falwell/Dobson/Haggard/Robertson/Swaggart, Baker, et. al, homosexuality is sensational and gets them votes, members and money. They have hijacked the name of Jesus Christ for their own greed, power and political agendas, using the manipulative tactics of fear like Karl Rove and Adolf Hitler.

Anon:

"Explains it all, doesn't it?"

Actually Psychology used to consider homosexuality a Character Disorder marked by emotional immaturity and hysteria.

Wouldn't it be ironic (and quite amusing) if Falwell was remembered in history as a closet gay?

Help spread the word.

Many believe that Falwell was a closet gay. The rumour is that he was so angry with himself for being unable to fight his gay tendencies that he took his frustrations out on the gay community.

Explains it all, doesn't it?

Jan said it and I believe it.

I have no ill will towards honest Christians who practice what they preach.

But I am willing to mix it up with those who are hypocrites. But you know, it's not even hypocrites who are the problem.

It's a man who built a congregation, a school, a religion-based industry on narrow-minded "principles" of what he thought we should buy into. He had no regard for humanity at large, just his narrow base.

In fact, Falwell simply used the direct-marketing principles laid out by Herschell Gordon Lewis more than 3 decades ago. Among those direct-marketing concepts are:

1. Fear is one of the greatest motivators.
2. Exclusivity--only "special" people get this offer.
3. Tailor your offer not to a broad public, but be specific and tailor it to a smaller, focused list of potential customers who share common traits.

Worked great for the GOP & Rove, too! I still don't understand why direct-marketing is the great uncovered story of modern American politics--and sadly, religion as practiced by the likes of J.F.

Jan, my point exactly. Every hateful word he deserves.

Charles:
Charles, you say "There is a Latin phrase which I cannot remember that means "Of the dead speak no ill.""

Well, there's a bible phrase that is even better known, and Falwell knew it well: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Falwell made a lifetime and a fortune out of throwing rocks at others. You expect a man who sowed hatred his entire life, to be accorded peace from those who were his targets?

May his sorry carcass roast in the fires of hell. Perhaps politicans have done worse, but they do not purport to be the messengers of God.

As a Christian and a Southern Baptist, I didn't always agree with Dr. Falwell. I did consider him as a man of passion and vision. He preached with great passion, he expanded with great vision. As a baptist minister I can see the controvesy left behind by some of his words. But I can also see the work of his hands.

It should make us think what will be said about us when we are no more.

As a Christian and a Southern Baptist, I didn't always agree with Dr. Falwell. I did consider him as a man of passion and vision. He preached with grat passion, he expanded with great vision. As a baptist minister I can see the controvesy left behind by some of his words. But I can also see the work of his hands.

It should make us think, what will be said about us when we are no more.

Jerry Falwell made his considerable fortune trafficking in hate and intolerance. He grew fat and gluttonous while others starved, always sporting the rich ways that his pius guise made possible. I can imagine his rich-man's diet eventually clogged his arteries and made fat deposits around that cold heart inside his fat chest, not the fake heart he wore around on his sleeve. He and his kind, like Elmer Gantry, are vermin who feast on mankind, no better than spiritual vampires who live by killing others.

You want to blame the downfall of society on atheists and pagans and homosexuals. The reason that half of all marriages end in divorce isn't because of gays. The reason families don't sit down and eat but instead go to McDonalds isn't because of gays. The reason there is violence on TV, religious wars, and starving people isn't because of gays.

That's not knowledge, my friend. You don't KNOW anything. You assume. Lots of observations came true. Lots of things written in the Bible are OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. That's why there are hundreds of Christian "sects". If many are called in this day and age - I would believe NONE are chosen. The track record of sin? The same ones you perpetuate? OK...good for you. Ever heard of "lead by example"? Guess not.

My Mother taught me, 'if you don't have anything good to say about someone, say nothing.'
..................................................................................................................... My condolences to the family.

NEWS FLASH LUKE, like i said, you either think they are crazy old men,or you take an honest look at how much they said came true. the bible also says many are called but few are chosen. i dont know why these things are true, i just know they are from the track record of sin. the potter reserves the power to make some things for glory and some things not.

How come you can't spot obvious fakes like Falwell, Bush and Cheney, people of America? Could it be that you're faking too, that your "religion" is just the fig-leaf you use to cover your tiny souls?

Falwell is gone, but you're still here in your ignorant millions, ready to bully, to hurt, to punish, to lie, to wage war. What do they teach you in those churches anyway, that blinds you to the simple truth? What are you going to give us next? Fascism? Holy War? The Inquisition? Or something so terrible there's no name for it yet?

Look in the mirror, America, if you can stand the sight. Look the self-righteousness in the face, look at the slovenly thinking, the laziness, the ignorance which we're famous for all over the world. Hideous, isn't it, like a baboon's ass as the poet says.

Take a good, long look. Drink it in. Now go and pray to your god, if you can.

News Flash Gary, the Bible was written by people too. I guess you didn't get them memo.

He stated what he thought was right, so are we in saying that he was an intolerant bigot. You throw this "have you no shame?" nonsense at those you label as liberals but you have been just as cruel and hateful to the LIVING. I am not praying for him. He is the antithesis of everything I believe in, so why should I be respectful. To say that the cause of 9-11 is gays and liberals? He isn't worthy of the water in my spit - which I would love to let grace his grave. Good riddance. Godspeed Pat Robertson, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter. Let them meet the God they so fervently believe in.

JESUS accepted and lived under the law,the only one to be successful at the attempt,thereby making him the only person able to take our sins on HIMSELF. GOD is the one who defined what sin is. it is revealed in the old testament.take it, or leave it as some stuff some old crazy men made up,i believe them,because i would have no other way to be called to look into GODS charactor. anything else, you made up yourself.

Oh my, have we offended some "real" Christians? Oh my, please forgive us. Will you pray for us? Pretty please?

Do you have any idea how angry some of us are at the ESTABLISHMENT that has given us endless war in Iraq? An ESTABLISHMENT that has hijacked BOTH government and religion to kill our hard-won freedoms? An ESTABLISHMENT that enriches itself at the expense of others? Can I provide you a CLUE at our discontent with people who parade around celebrating Christ while working against His principles? And YOU are offended? YOU?

Good! Glad to finally get your attention.

Let Jerry's passing start the conversation. Bring it. He's a public figure, his family must realize that by now. If you want your family to mourn in peace, don't be a jerk your entire life.

John McCain had it right the first time, Jerry Falwell was an agent of intolerance. Morals and values my foot.

Jerry Falwell taught HIS interpretation of what the Bible taught; that did not necessarily make his teachings infalible, true or Christian, for that matter.

Jerry Falwell taught HIS interpretation of what the Bible taught; that did not necessarily make his teachings infalible, true or Christian, for that matter.

5/16/07

god is just Dog spelled backwards: "I don't know with certainy wether there is or is not a god, but I'm convinced that anyone who claims to know what the word "god" is, is a fraud, dellusional or a practicing hubrist"

Mikki- Really ? That proves 'Pharisee' did a good job on some of us to 'confuse' !

Mikki

Condolence to the family and friends of Rev. Falwell. Many of the moral issues he spoke out about, are valid and are of God. We tend to disagree when it deals with our own or our family member's life style. Suddenly we tend to see things we want to do or be a part of as being clean because we want it to be and we want to be justified, BUT! God has the last word and Rev. Falwell, no matter if we liked him or not, he was about something that a lot of us shy away from. I believe when he came to the gates of heaven, the Lord God said to him, ' Well done thy good and faithful servant. Yours is the Kingdom of God.

I have rarely seen such an outpouring of vitriol for a person who has passed. I did not agree with Rev. Falwell's views, but I find the excoriating remarks made by so many here reprehensible. There is a Latin phrase which I cannot remember that means "Of the dead speak no ill." Dr. Falwell is gone, no doubt to a far better place than this corrupt world and so many of the hate-filled people who inhabit it. No matter what one's predilections may be, surely people who have a shred of love for mercy and forgiveness can desist from espousing such unseemly remarks as I have read here. I am not a religious person in any orthodox way, but I am certainly not going to rejoice because of Rev. Falwell's passing. I agree that there are Washington politicians who are doing far worse than he ever did. Personally, I am getting a bit tired of these militant homos who come flocking out en masse every time something occurs about which they feel justified to flaunt their views in our faces. I do not have one thing against persons who are homosexual. In fact, I have friends who are. I realize that the Rev. Falwell made hurtful (and, I concede, hateful) remarks about the homosexual community. But the man is gone from our midst. And I find myself in agreement with Hillary who posted here. Let us, in a country that purportedly loves mercy and justice and forgiveness, pray for the repose of Rev. Falwell's soul. He did what he could according to his "lights." If he hurt an element of our population in his ministry, he will, no doubt, answer for it somewhere in the never-ending, wherever and whatever that is.

I have rarely seen such an outpouring of vitriol for a person who has passed. I did not agree with Rev. Falwell's views, but I find the excoriating remarks made by so many here reprehensible. There is a Latin phrase which I cannot remember that means "Of the dead speak no ill." Dr. Falwell is gone, no doubt to a far better place than this corrupt world and so many of the hate-filled people who inhabit it. No matter what one's predilections may be, surely people who have a shred of love for mercy and forgiveness can desist from espousing such unseemly remarks as I have read here. I am not a religious person in any orthodox way, but I am certainly not going to rejoice because of Rev. Falwell's passing. I agree that there are Washington politicians who are doing far worse than he ever did. Personally, I am getting a bit tired of these militant homos who come flocking out en masse every time something occurs about which they feel justified to flaunt their views in our faces. I do not have one thing against persons who are homosexual. In fact, I have friends who are. I realize that the Rev. Falwell made hurtful (and, I concede, hateful) remarks about the homosexual community. But the man is gone from our midst. And I find myself in agreement with Hillary who posted here. Let us, in a country that purportedly loves mercy and justice and forgiveness, pray for the repose of Rev. Falwell's soul. He did what he could according to his "lights." If he hurt an element of our population in his ministry, he will, no doubt, answer for it somewhere in the never-ending, wherever and whatever that is.

I don't know with certainy wether there is or is not a god, but I'm convinced that anyone who claims to know what the word "god" is, is a fraud, dellusional or a practicing hubrist. Billy Graham is a joke and Jerry Foulwell was a vicious, bigoted, theocrat whose life summed up eveything that weakens America's true strength and virtue. He gets no pass because he's dead; and his existence argues against a belief in god, since the world and our country would be better places had that rabid Pillsburg Doughboy never been born.

I don't know with certainy wether there is or is not a god, but I'm convinced that anyone who claims to know what the word "god" is, is a fraud, dellusional or a practicing hubrist. Billy Graham is a joke and Jerry Foulwell was a vicious, bigoted, theocrat whose life summed up eveything that weakens America's true strength and virtue. He gets no pass because he's dead; and his existence argues against a belief in god, since the world and our country would be better places had that rabid Pillsburg Doughboy never been born.

I don't know with certainy wether there is or is not a god, but I'm convinced that anyone who claims to know what the word "god" is, is a fraud, dellusional or a practicing hubrist. Billy Graham is a joke and Jerry Foulwell was a vicious, bigoted, theocrat whose life summed up eveything that weakens America's true strength and virtue. He gets no pass because he's dead; and his existence argues against a belief in god, since the world and our country would be better places had that rabid Pillsburg Doughboy never been born.

With opinions like his, one would have every right to be embarrased of them.

5/16/07

Nico: "was Falwell more a 'Pharisee,' or just a 'money-changer'? Discuss."

Mikki's view- What is the difference ? 'Pharisee' and 'money-changer' is one and the same: Pharisee (or Jew) did help create 'Avistas' (in right to left writing of Sanskrit), then 'Bible' (the twisted-history) and new god 'Jesus' which resulted in 'Quran' (& Allah), and the 'Communist'- all for 'money' and control by dividing us in the name of 'GOD' ?

Any comment !

Mikki

Jerry said what needed to be said and what others
were afraid or embarrassed to say.

I'm sure Fred Phelps is balling right now. Boo hoo.

To: Ronnie

I don't hate black people; I hate their black skin. I don't hate black people; I just hate the black lifestyle. This is my attempt at irony, which I hope does not goe over your head.

Jerry Falwell will be remembered as a homophobe.

Homophobia is a specialized cult that many have tacked onto Christianity. If you are a practitoner or homophobia, then go ahead and embrace it as your religion, but please do not take the Lord's name in vein by saying that it is Christian.