Like America's foreign policy options in Iran, the Senator’s alternatives in this crisis can be described as “bad” and “worse”:
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seahawkdad...
I think you might have a point about Rev. Wright being a captive of victimhood. It's either that, or Wright has one gigantic ego. When I first started watching him on Bill Moyers, I thought...good, we'll see a side of him that deserves to be seen. But, then it started going downhill and hit bottom at the NPC. I see no logical explanation why Rev. Wright would come forward now in the distructive manner he did. Maybe he's a Republican? or a Clinton supporter?
I know women who have been victims of physical abuse who are more frightened of leaving, than they are of staying with an abusive husband. For that matter, just look at Hillary Clinton - staying with a husband who humiliated her in such a publicly, sleazey manner, not just once, but many times. Who knows what motivates people to make the choices they do!
April 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 30, 2008 10:27
I don't know why the press has fixated on Obama's religion. First he was "Muslim" o-o-o-o-scary! Then he belongs to a "racist" black Christian church. Why the relentless scrutiny of Obama's beliefs? Religion is a personal thing that doesn't belong in political arena. But, if you in the media are going to delve into one candidate's faith, it's only fair to investigate the other candidates.
I hear very little about McCain's elusive religious affiliations. And why aren't you delving into Hillary's spiritual advisor, Doug Coe and The Fellowship. Now, THAT would be interesting. How about some YouTube soundbites from Doug Coe praising the leadership abilities of Hitler, Goebbels, Chairman Mao, etc. (Or is it scary to go up against this group which is also known as the Christian Mafia?)
April 30, 2008 10:08 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 30, 2008 10:08
I also vote for door number three. Obama's "God talk" has made a lot of people who would otherwise vote for him uncomfortable. If he comes out and says, "My allegiance is to the Constitution of the United States, not to any one pastor, religion, or racial viewpoint" it would go a long way towards putting this controversy to bed. It would also tell Rev. Wright to STFU and stop trying to extend his fifteen minutes of fame.
April 30, 2008 9:41 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 30, 2008 09:41
A CLINTON ADMIRER:
KAT:
the two of you are a real piece of work !
you need to crawl back under that rock you came from Hillary will not and can not win anything
Hillary was indict and she will be in court
before the primary is over why do you think
Hillary will do anything lie, steal, and she is If she is in the white house she will do the same thing Bush and Chaney had done attorney general Alberto Gonzales will protect them and
put them above the law and the new attorney general will do the same for her Hillary will use the white house to protect her from her wrong doings
April 30, 2008 12:37 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 30, 2008 00:37
I hope and pray that obama does not win, even if he did Sen. Mccain will defeat him at the end.
I was raised a muslem, in an arabic country before being reborned again the U.S.A 6 years ago, i know an islamist when he speech, i know how they define things, and how they think and i have known for long, long before finding out what his middle name is,i have known in heart that he is a muslim.
if there is one percent of chance that Sen. Obama is muslim why risk america for that ?
April 30, 2008 12:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 30, 2008 00:16
Elinor:
Haven't you heard? The GOP is trying to dump the evangelicals off onto the Democrats. Has nothing to do with the Bible being a proved hoax. It's the abortion we get for government when abortion is the only issue discussed by the candidates.
"Right to life" is now being applied to the Republican party. Which party of the new two party system of all Democrats are you going to join, liberal or conservative?
April 29, 2008 10:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 22:20
The so-called "values" voters have been a big problem for Democrats for some time. The fact that Senator Obama and Senator Clinton for that matter have been able to speak to these voters has made the Democrats competitive in a number of areas which have been considered out of bounds. One of the problems for Senator Obama as he seeks to transcend race is that he keeps getting pulled back into racial arguments, particularly old racial arguments which may be part of the civil rights struggle. The peculiar dynamic between Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama should not obscure the importance of faith in this election. This has been the Republican terrain for a long time. Now it is a bi-partisan issue.
April 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 22:03
HILLARY CLINTON WINNING ALL INDIANA POLLS>!! YES!!!!!!!!NOT GOD D--- AMERICA IN THE WRIGHT HOUSE>>>GOD BLESS AMERICA WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS AMERICA FOR SEEING THE LIGHT!!
April 29, 2008 9:44 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 21:44
he already was secular. wasn't any preaching about sin going on in wrights church. it was just like congress,one big sermon on how to redistribute the wealth.
April 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 21:39
Response Five:
Explain that Reverend Wright is fighting to keep his own world view of white America keeping black America down, and that a black man winning the presidency would demolish that view.
This is classic human behavior, irrespective of race. If you identify yourself as being of the 'bottoms', then you do not want any of those who you identify as being of your bottoms group moving out of it.
So the reaction is to do what is necessary to pull them back.
Wright is trying to do this to Obama. Obama's success challenges Wright's view of the world.
Unfortunately, if he wins, all of us lose, once more held back from our gradual march to racial reconciliation.
April 29, 2008 8:46 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 20:46
Obama has No Choice but to Hand Over the Reins to Hillary.
The 'Hand Writing' sais, "It's Not Your Tome Borack Husain Obama."
April 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 20:11
Hello Professor Berlinerblau:
Check the evening news. "Obama renounced his pastor at this point." A little late but nevertheless necessary -- only if he wants to get elected president.
Let's see if I can answer, "Perhaps you can define "religion"?"
Religion defines sin. Sin defines religion.
It's kinda like, adios is bon voyage in Spanish. Define von voyage. Bon voyage is adios in French.
Note: people without religion cannot sin just like people who don't speak French don't know what adios means. Now we'll find out if Jeremiah Wright speaks French. Barak clearly said adios to him just today.
April 29, 2008 7:04 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 19:04
TJFRMLA:
Why do you blame it on "religion" rather than how politics work?
I agree with you that Obama is the one who seems to carry some spirituality underneath the rhetoric (although one can never know...), and that spirituality is a plus, not a minus.
Perhaps you can define "religion"?
April 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 18:15
As usual religion once again causes nothing but pain and agony. I don't care what people say the end NEVER justifies the means when it comes to all thie mumbo-jumbo. For the past month, with all this talk about religion...Barack Obama is the ONLY person who has given a Hint of a spiritual person beneath the retoric. What a waste of time and energy this has been.We'd do more for our country if the time was spent volunteering at a food bank or child care facility.
April 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 16:50
I concur with option 2. Give Wright a lesson in politics, especially the part about how it isn't about you, it's about us, Even Republicans see his press blitz as an unbelievably selfish act that only someone with an equal measure of narcissism and vengeful envy could carry out.
April 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 16:43
Or Route 5:Repent and surrender his political aspirations.
I vote for this one, not because I don't like Obama, but because I do think he could lead a better life with a nobler purpose. The population never really knows what to think or what to look for. I would be a little disappointed if Obama renounced his pastor at this point. It's a trial by fire, and he has to make a conscientious decision and leave the results of this election to God. This might be a turning point for him, personally.
But then, since it is hard to turn back now --- my second vote goes to #1.
April 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 16:39
Religion is irrelevant here.
Very simply, it does not matter which Democrat is elected President. All the effort prior to the election should be increasing the strength of Democrats to the point where they have a clear mandate to move the US in a different direction. Strength may crucially depend on Democrats ability to counter the crude and unethical tactics of Republicans. The sparring we see between Democrats is probably to warn Republicans of what they can expect when they go negative on their opponents in the last months after the Democratic nominee is chosen. Both Hillary and Barack have to sharpen their weapons for the real offensive, but they need to do so in a way that does not increase the ability of the enemy to defend itself. It’s going to get nasty.
April 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 16:36
I vote for an easing into Response Three and a decided choice to adopt Response Four, if anyone cares with this recovered-catholic, agnostic Obama supporter thinks!
April 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 15:02
Jesus remained silent when He was accused. Being a Christian nation we must elect only the Jesus like to high office. Option number one is Biblical. Of course it will be necessary to inform everyone that he's doing that so silence is impossible.
April 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 13:00
Ditto Janet Arnett.
No one person can speak for "the Black Church."
It's loose and diverse.
Maybe Obama could say that -- but best that he stay away from defining churches.
Maybe if Wright has any positive effect, it will be to allow Obama to actively define what he is NOT about. It's certainly not unusual to outgrow a mentor. In fact, it frequently happens. This is not throwing someone under the bus -- It's called learning and moving on.
Hopefully some of Wrights trusted colleagues within the religious community can reign him in
April 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 12:39
Obama should not presume to speak for the Black Church, so I can't support your last statement; otherwise I concur with your observations.
April 29, 2008 10:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on April 29, 2008 10:16