lol fanx 'lovely cindy' but im British,lool but dont matter, i appreciate the positive comment =)

Ibrahim Beg: I understand your point of view. Sometimes we have to continuously educate people to see that we're all human being... and that no specific religion is better than the other.

It must be very difficult to be in your situation where you are being judged only because you happen to be a Muslim. Trust me, I would be devastated too if I'm judged based on my race, culture, or religion.

Just because numerous attacks were made by Muslims does not mean that all Muslims are the same way.

Hatred starts from each and everyone of us. This is the time when we hold each other's hand and defend America together.

-Lovely Cindy

Ibrahim Beg: I understand your point of view. Sometimes we have to continuously educate people to see that we're all human being... and that no specific religion is better than the other.

It must be very difficult to be in your situation where you are being judged only because you happen to be a Muslim. Trust me, I would be devastated too if I'm judged based on my race, culture, or religion.

Just because numerous attacks were made by Muslims does not mean that all Muslims are the same way.

Hatred starts from each and everyone of us. This is the time when we hold each other's hand and defend America together.

-Lovely Cindy

Ibrahim Beg: I understand your point of view. Sometimes we have to continuously educate people to see that we're all human being... and that no specific religion is better than the other.

It must be very difficult to be in your situation where you are being judged only because you happen to be a Muslim. Trust me, I would be devastated too if I'm judged based on my race, culture, or religion.

Just because numerous attacks were made by Muslims does not mean that all Muslims are the same way.

Hatred starts from each and everyone of us. This is the time when we hold each other's hand and defend America together.

-Lovely Cindy

Thank You 'lovely', i mean it because this forum isnt about what religion is right and wrong but i just had to defend Islam because people were posting the wrong untrue extremist views which go totally against the Qur'an, its nice to see some decency out there in the world =)

Thank You 'lovely', i mean it because this forum isnt about what religion is right and wrong but i just had to defend Islam because people were posting the wrong untrue extremist views which go totally against the Qur'an, its nice to see some decency out there in the world =)

It doesn't matter what religion you believe in, what matters is how you treat other people. Life is too short. Don't you all want to enjoy life and remember how you lived your life by making friends and loving everyone. I respect everyone because it's what differentiate us from everyone else. I am unique in my own ways... I am not a mirror image of anyone.

Interesting, since i've made some TRUE points on Islam no1 has had the balls to question me for over a month now lol, what happened Halozcel realised that Islam isnt infact a violent religion and that your the one being brain washed listening to these terrorists thinking the non-believers are christians and jews when in the Qur'an its actually the Pagans n idol worshippers?

Oh and also this 'verse' from the Qur'an stating that 'Two women equal one man' from Surrah Al-Baqarah (the cow) 2:82 as Hazocel said 'You say 'Islam state women should be treated EQUALLY to men'.This is a Funny word.
Cow chapter 282 'Two women equals one man', THIS IS COMPLETELY MADE UP AND WRONG BECAUSE I'VE PAST THAT AND HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND ALSO THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (SAW) CLEARLY SAID MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY!!!! So stop making shit up all you who know its the truth but cant admit it and make stuff up ;-)

woops typo it should be: and also the 'Disbelievers' ACORDING to the Qur'an ARE the Devil worshippers and pagans etc etc NOT Jews or Christians, and you think that incudes Jews and Christians is because those Terrorists label other religions as disbelievers because well, they're demented lol

Oh and another thing, about your doctor comment, which is so lame, they arent british born, only 2 of them are, others are from jordan and some from Iraq, get your facts right first and also the 'Disbelievers' ACORDING to the Qur'an and Devil worshippers and pagans etc etc NOT Jews or Christians, and you think that incudes Jews and Christians is because those Terrorists label other religions as disbelievers because well, they're demented lol, last night i was reading my English Translation of the Qur'an and though i'd pick out a few verses from Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow, Surah 2):

Surah al-baqarah (The Cow):

2:62- Those who believe (in that which is revealed to you, O Muhammed (SAW) ), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans-whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does right-surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

2:111- And they say: None enters Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian. These are their own desires, Say: Bring your proof (of what you state) if you are truthful.

2:113- And the Jews say: The Christians follow nothing, and the Christians say: The Jews follow nothing; yet both are readers of the Scripture. Even thus speak those who know not. God Will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that wherein they differ.

Dear Halozcel, why be so aggresive? You got to realise that the reason why Allah (SWT) will cast hearts in those who disbelieve is because WE believe Islam (Peace) is the one true religion and we do believe Esah will come back to save the world and then everyone will be muslim. And judging by you saying 'Jesus is the son of God' im guessing your Christian, yeah you can believe that, why be so angry? Did i say anything bad about christinity or Judasim or Hinduism or any other religion, clearly your just a dim-witted brainwashed individual who has grown up in a all christian area and doesnt know the meaning of a multi-cultural society. And the only reason why the U.S and England (My home country which i love) is the 'Land of war' in your eyes is because the political leaders have invaded and attacked Muslim state countries countless times and have killed their women and their children who knows maybe in their millions yet my country and if your from America your country has time to honour the blood thirsty war machine which is our armies where you forget about all the innocent people who we have killed and then these Terrorists who DONT REPRESENT EVERY MUSLIM IN THE WORLD BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE IN TERRORISM!! Are angry because their loved ones have been killed so they just want revenge and as an excuse add Allah's (SWT) name to it. Also as i said in my first post about the treatment of women in these arab countries its compulsory for women to cover their hair but NOT to cover their face (Niqab) the face part is cultural of the Islamic Arab states and the treatment of them is also cultural in these countries its believe men are superior and i admit thats backwards because times are changing but that doesnt mean that we can blame it on Islam. And another reason why many Muslims hate Jew's is only because they came n pushed the palestinians to the west and east n created their own land to re-capture jerusalem, isnt that just another crusader attack? And why call me the other Doctor i found that extremely affensive, have i said to you that ur a KKK member, would you like it if i blamed you for killing innocent people, i dont think so, guess it shows how ill mannered some people are.........

Dear Ibrahim Beg,
Well Educated British Born Pakistani Muslim.

Shall you be 'doctor'.Six or seven British Born muslim doctors attempted 'suicide bombing',but they failed.
Allah doesnt mean 'God' in arabic.Allah was the Moon Deity of bedouin.
Brainwashing;150 times worship in arabic language in a month,this is brainwashing.
Jesus is not 'prophet',He is the 'Son of God'.
Islam doesnt respect anything else,but hates non-muslims(infidels).
Cow chapter 161 'Those who reject Faith(only islam) and die rejecting,on them is the curse of Allah'
'I(Allah) will cast Fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve(non-muslim) 8.12
Islam is the Cult of violence.
Islam loves 'muslim moses'(whatever it means)

Dear Ibrahim Beg,
Dar ul Harb(Land of War) is islamofascist consept.For example,USA or England are the Land of War,and if you are 'true believer muslim' you must jihad(holy war).
You say 'Jesus will come back...'.No,completely wrong.Islam rejects 'Second coming'
You say 'Islam state women should be treated EQUALLY to men'.This is a Funny word.
Cow chapter 282 'Two women equals one man'
Penguin Women(women in black wrap) in islamic countries are enslaved and subjugated.Doesnt your 'conscience' pain when you see Penguin women?.Please,please try to save them.

Dear Ibrahim Beg,
Please,Unchain your head,you shall find the 'Correct Path'.

woops somehow posted it 3 times, but read it :-)

Ok first of all, its sadening to see how people potray Islam, im a British muslim and alot of you are probably already starting to hate me now because i just mentioned im muslim, well dont hate me because the 'Muslims who die in the name of Allah (SWT)' you see on the TV are not muslims actually, if any of you actually studied islam, you would know that the word Islam actually means peace and the word Allah isnt our God it means 'God' in Arabic, thats all, the Matyrs you see in Palestien and in Iraq etc etc i.e- Al Qaeda are uneducated and believe that Bush's 'War on terror' is just another crusader attack from the Med-evil times when really everyone knows Bush is after oil because American supplies are running out and the media just covers it up by showing pictures of so called 'Muslim jihadists' that are 'fighthing for Allah' to actually brainwash you the believing public, dont you ever stop and think about da innocent muslims,christians and jews who die in all these countries in the Middle East? There all human too, people like 'peludo321654' seriously brother why are you hating a religion where the name of the religion means 'Peace' and if you guys even read the english version of the Qu'ran you'd see that Esah (Jesus) is our prophet too and also Ibrahim (Abraham) and also Musa (Moses) and so forth even Noah, Jacob, john and also King David whos Arabic name is (Daud)and this clip is from a TV station in the Middle East controlled by a extremist group not an ISLAMIC extremist group but just extremist who are uneducated and think that they are fighting for their religion, which is so wrong and so not right and doesnt consist of what Islam is. And when you turn your TV's on tonight watching the news honouring that 'brave' soldier who just died 'fighting a war on terror' (when really hes on a mission on wiping out a whole nation, oh and dont forget how many innocent people him and his crew just bombed and killed before he died ;-) ) think twice when the news reporter says 'Islamic Militants' have you ever heard of 'Christian Militants? or Tamil Militants in Sri Lankan civil wars? no because the media is controlled by the government and the government wants to brainwash you in believing that Islam is not peaceful and that all the Holy Qur'an says is 'kill kill kill', yes it mentions Jihad-Holy War BUT there are STRICT rules for a holy war - women and children must not be hurt and animals must not be hurt and a holy war is the only last resort. And i dont think you people realise that Bush started this wave of militancy by invading Afghanistan for oil and Iraq was just the seal on the deal, come on think about it, muslim people were happy before this 'War on terror', its just the uneducated people as i mentioned above like Al-Qaeda and other extremist groups that 'wage war' against America because they think that they can spread Islam like that because they're UNEDUCATED!!!! Everyone knows to make someone in believing something you cant force them, it takes time they dont realise that and because Bush has crushed all these Arab governments that means their armies go aswel so people end up supporting Hezbollah, Al-Fatah, Hamas and Al-Qaeda etc etc because well wouldnt you? If your country was crushed your freedom scrapped, your familly killed by 'Heroism' wouldnt you support the only one true hope you have left? Its ashame that they use it as a excuse to 'Fight in the name of Allah' instead of it just being revenge. So people please why hate on a religion? People who say 'Fuck islam and Fuck Allah' are making a fool of themselves when they are saying 'Fuck peace, Fuck God, May God burn in hell and be killed by the devil', now look whos brainwashed? Did we muslims say 'Fuck Jesus Fuck Christians' etc etc when the IRA were bombing London in the 80's and early 90's? No we didnt because we RESPECT other religions and REALISED that the IRA are infact just another extremist group, you didnt hear people on the news says 'Christian Extremists' did you? Nope, and people have to realise that Judaism and Christanity is in Islam and we believe that Jesus was replaced on the cross by Allah (GOD) not our God but just the Arabic word for God (reminding you people) and that Jesus will come back on the day of judgement. Another thing i'd like to talk about is treatment of women in Islam, in Middle Eastern countries women are treated unfairly in most cases because thats their culture and NOT RELIGION, ISLAM STATES WOMEN SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY TO MEN!!!!! And also on the science note in the Qur'an it even mentions topics like embryos and how an embryo is the size of your nail on ur little finger at first and yet scientists are discovering this now? So think again when you mock Islam- Peace and Allah- God because you are the Brainwashed one......And you people are probably thinking im some type of spiritual speaker or something when infact im just a 16 year old British Born Pakistani Muslim which a good education and RESPECT for other religions and faiths and knows the true meaning of Peace......thanks for reading

I have to tip my hat to all those people who are using the ever-respectable "hate speech" to make a point. Bravissimo! I couldn't have spewed such wretched ignorance more eloquently! From this day forth, I shall throw my hands up to the sky when faced with reasonable and respectable dialog because, clearly, if a point can be made just by willing something to be so even when it's not... Well then there's no point in listening, reading, or having any kind of critical thought process! How much time I will save! Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

Ms. Arain, Colleen, Brittany,

These are the same folks who show up on other threads and try to paint the posters there as all somehow 'islamic' when we refuse to fall into the trap of saying that the terrorists are all that islam is.

Please know that others don't feel as they do.

Excuse me, *appalled. Heh.

Frank Collins - "its not a serotype to point out the beliefs of islam and their acts"

Whether you meant stereotype or actual "serotype," you are forgetting that the "acts" of Islam as YOU see them ARE generalizations molded by religious extremists (which, by the way, a form of extremism exists in EVERY culture, religion, group, etc.) In order to break these generalizations, I suggest you get some Muslim friends. Or you know, like, talk to one sometime.

Overall, I'm just appauled at the amount of stupidity and hypocrisy in these comments. This blog was originally nothing but meditative and thoughtful. And then three bloggers come on here and challenge Hafsa's faith with absurd stereotypes and...YouTube videos?

"This fuels more hatred for a religion and a people who have nothing to do with these events." - Cat Stevens on Islamaphobia

I know that Islam is NOT a cult of violence because I have Muslim friends who don't condone violence and, as an active member of their faith, do NOT participate in violent acts. I think it's important to remember that no one person is the same, and to generalize all that are Islamic as "violent" is dangerous and counter-productive to the growth we, as a nation, should be striving towards. The individuals who are religious terrorists are few and far between in terms of ALL of the people who practice the Islamic faith, and that should be pretty obvious. I don't practice Islam but it's a simple fact that one person does not define an entire group of people. I am an American but President Bush's policies do not define my political beliefs. I am a Protestant Christian but I believe in almost all left-wing beliefs such as abortion.

To halozcel: There is no contradiction in my post. I said that Islam is not a "cult of violence" because it is a religion, NOT a cult, and to generalize a group of people based on certain individuals is WRONG. That does not coincide with ignorance towards the general practices but common sense. I know that these people are ignorant about Islam because they are basing their beliefs on a few individuals and not the hundreds of millions of people who aren't violent. I have no idea what slavery has to do with this issue and why you would bring it up. I think that only addresses the ignorance in your own "argument" since nothing you say seems to make any sense.

To Frank: ISLAM IS A RELIGION. Those videos are not of "Islam" telling you what Islam really is. They are of individual people. They don't represent the entire population of Islamic people in the world.

Hafsa: I don't know how you could deal with these people on a regular basis. They can't even capitalize the first letters of their sentences.

To Brittany,thank you for your polite reply.But,there is an absolute contradiction in your post.You say,

''so much hate built around a religion that so many people are ignorant about,myself included.''
''By generalizing islam(a religion) as a 'cult of violence' is hardly accepting''

First,if you are ignorant about islam,how do you know islam as a cult of violence is hardly accepting?
Second,how do you know those people are ignorant about islam?

If you are a black American,you should be very sensitive about slavery.I advise,I suggest Dear Hafsa to learn to love,because islam doesnt know what love is.

Dear Brittany,please dont be slave again.

its a debate not an appellate brief. and if what i posted is hateful blame islam it comes from their koran and their acts.
and i looked at the video's - islam telling you what islam is.

Whoa, there seems to be a large amount of "spamming" coming to this post, even though Hafsa has been posting on this blog for a while now. It's really saddening to see so much hate built around a religion that so many people are ignorant about, myself included.

To Frank Collins: Please learn how to type and spell correctly. Not to be catty, but a lot of the words you misspelled can bring about varying ideas that I would hope you don't actually mean.

To Anonymous: The fact that you are anonymous speaks volumes. Simply posting videos doesn't answer any questions, address the post or solve any problems. You are generalizing one person by showing a video of something that was from a different country. Just because Hafsa is Muslim does not mean she represents all Muslim's everywhere. I am a black American and yet I can only speak for myself, and not all black Americans, or even all black Americans from Chicago.

To halozcel: What's upsetting about your post is that you are telling Hafsa to learn to love. What does that mean? Hafsa's posts have already been based on a desire for enlightenment in regards to her faith in America and as a college student, or at least, that is what I have drawn from it. By generalizing Islam (a religion) as a "cult of violence" is hardly accepting, or based on feelings of camaraderie, acceptance, or love...the issues you seemed to have been upset about.

Dear Hafsa Arain,

You say ''Since we dont have a papal system in Sunni Islam''
It is completely inaccurate.

The Caliph,Shadow of Allah,the spiritual leader of islam was islamic papal system.
After the first four caliphs,thr title was claimed by the Umayyad,Abbasids and Ottomans.The title has been defunct since the Republic of Turkey abolished the Ottoman caliphate in 1924.So,there was islamic papal system from the beginnig to 1924.

''...what islam is really about.'' It is very simple.
Islam,cult of violence,is the desert rules of bedouin that based on stone age mentality.
Islam is brainwashing that claims worship in arabic language 150 times in a month.
Islam is the belief of 'two women equals one man' and the enslavement of women and head scarf(chain on the head) is the mark of subjugation.

Dear Hafsa,please try to learn to love,perhaps you can achieve.