I can understand how they can be puzzling. I don't think the right ones are being stressed. My personal favorite is: "This is not about getting a man, it's about being the best that you can."

(It's all really very cheesy.)

But just that sentiment, that we need to better ourselves. I love that. And frankly, my need to better myself comes from almost solely one source: my religion.

I can understand how they can be puzzling. I don't think the right ones are being stressed. My personal favorite is: "This is not about getting a man, it's about being the best that you can."

(It's all really very cheesy.)

But just that sentiment, that we need to better ourselves. I love that. And frankly, my need to better myself comes from almost solely one source: my religion.

oops, sorry for all those posts, was having problems posting.

sorry didn't check this for a while. as to your comments above, i have to say that "well, that's good to know." i do understand about being "young". I'm not so old myself. and dealing with stuff is something that you have to do everyday all your life. so kudos to you if you have your lines drawn firmly. wasn't judging, just a bit puzzled. try to read the rules as someone who didn't write them, you'll know what i mean.

sorry didn't check this for a while. as to your comments above, i have to say that "well, that's good to know." i do understand about being "young". I'm not so old myself. and dealing with stuff is something that you have to do everyday all your life. so kudos to you if you have your lines drawn firmly. wasn't judging, just a bit puzzled. try to read the rules as someone who didn't write them, you'll know what i mean.

sorry didn't check this for a while. as to your comments above, i have to say that "well, that's good to know." i do understand about being "young". I'm not so old myself. and dealing with stuff is something that you have to do everyday all your life. so kudos to you if you have your lines drawn firmly. wasn't judging, just a bit puzzled. try to read the rules as someone who didn't write them, you'll know what i mean.

Like I said, not all the rules were created by Muslims. Only one Muslim made a few of the rules. The other ones do not pertain. Sorry if that wasn't clear, or if you found any of those offensive. Most of these rules, actually, alienate many Muslim women including myself, because of the lifestyle that I choose to lead. Do not think for a moment that I go clubbing or drink alcohol because of these rules, it is not in the least what I am getting at.

Just in the way you do not wish for outsiders to the Muslim community to judge Muslim women, do not judge us from what you immediately see here. We were not trying to be offensive. We are young and trying to deal with the things we see everyday. Do not assume that I do not follow the laws of Islam because of these rules, or that I hold these rules more importantly than the laws of Islam, because that is and never will be the case.

None of us are "getting sucked into" anything. We are aware of our situations and surroundings. No one is kidding themselves.

But that's the problem you see. the rules, especially as you describe them above, pose themselves as some universal truths for "feminist" women. They do not say well, such and such rules only apply to non-religious and/or Muslim women who drink, go clubbing, sleep around etc...

also, the whole, "dating rules" concept. are u all dating?

Furthermore, they are crude..."if you don't know him don't blow him." First of all, does this mean that if you do know him it's okay to blow him. I understand joking, but one doesn't have to lower one's standards to be funny. furthermore, if you are gonna put up a list of what you call "rules" then u better be ready to back 'em up or explain them. Please don't take this the wrong way but making vague throwaway remarks like "we are making fun of the thing we are to overcome" really doesn't cut it. I know, it's college, i've been there, everyone talks like that, hell that's what everyone tries to sound like in grad school, but it doesn't say anything.

anyway, you know i care about you guys, so just be careful. i've been to college, i know that it's easy to get sucked into stuff.

Finally, like it or not, there are "rules" to being a Muslim. And these days it's an image that we need to constantly define and refine. unfair as it is, that's where the world is today.

As an aside, if you're interested in getting lady O's attention I'd change the "if she's a fatty" part.

Why would they be disturbing? The way that they are phrased are, of course, very ridiculed. We are making fun of the very thing we mean to overcome.

Also, only one person who created the rules is Muslim, and not all the rules reflect the view of that one Muslim. As you might have been able to tell, most of the situations described in the rules do not even apply to that one Muslim, or Muslim women in general.

umm, "the Rulez" are a bit disturbing considering they are coming from a couple of Muslim girls as well...I assume they are a joke. i hope...

umm, "the Rulez" are a bit disturbing considering they are coming from a couple of Muslim girls as well...I assume they are a joke. i hope...

YES! The Rules!

As goofy as they may sound, there is a serious truth to them.

I didn't know those rules were supposed to be taken seriously, but I like how you found a serious point.

It's sort of become this greater culture of "self-degradation", you know? It's as though no one can ever be good enough, and so we glorify the flaws.

Wa Alaikum Salaam Victoria-

The name of our Facebook group is actually "Where it be: These Rulez You Can't Learn in Schoolz". I'm sure you can find it if you search for it.

And just a disclaimer, a lot of it is meant to be funny and partially gramatically incorrect, haha.

And I was thinking about that, Brittany, that it's going to be difficult. One shouldn't find it difficult to be proud of themselves, but for some reason that's really hard.

Wow. The rules are famous. It is difficult to follow the rules, which, essentially, are a means for greater self-esteem.

a salaamu alaikum ms arain-

i went to facebook to find the rules and signed in- but am at a loss where to find them
peace