Eboo Patel | I say this with great sadness: When I talk about people who embody the transcendent love of the African-American tradition, Jeremiah Wright will not be one of them.
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Yes, what was missing and deeply disappointing was that Rev. Wright lost that "magnanimous love" that is rooted in the African American tradition. It was the "magnanimous love" of Rev. M. L. King that brought the very best out of white people and changed America. Rev. Wright got stuck in Malcom X.
May 18, 2008 11:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 18, 2008 11:16
i think this emmit till case is the worse ever im a white girl my self and my family is racist but not me i dont beileve in that u love who u love and i cant help that people r just sick these days
May 16, 2008 5:09 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 16, 2008 17:09
william kraal: "RELIGION POISONS EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES!!"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Its not the religion William that poisons it is the lack of faith in God that harms the human soul. "We" are responsible for that. After all God only requires us to have faith in who he is, and that he is, the size of a "mustard seed," but yet we fail to produce even that small requirement.
Yesterday, I would have agreed with you. My mistake was letting go and llacking faith in God when I should have held on to what God had promised me.
I am human and the, "my" human heart was broken and I blamed God. But it was not God's fault, at all, it was mine for allowing "negativity" and "inpatience" to take root, therefore I fell.
Will I believe again, you bet! I hope you will too. All it takes is a good look within your own heart and you will see the truth of how "frail" we are as humans, subject to pride, and not taking responsibility for what, who, and how we are.
May 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 11:21
Eboo writes:
You have to know that a race of people who were enslaved and subjugated for centuries by America decided that instead of leaving this nation in disgust, they would create it anew.
When African Americans had every right to seek revenge, they decided instead to build wholeness.
Eboo - do you have room in your lesson plan for Pakistanis to mention that whites GAVE african americans their freedom? It was whites who fought one another in order to free the slaves. I don't know of another example in world history where the slave masters and those in power voluntarily gave their slaves freedom.
Rather than seek "revenge" as you suggest, african americans might instead praise white america and thank whites for giving them their freedom. Black americans might focus on the most recent 160+ years of freedom rather than the slavery NONE of living black americans have experienced.
If seeking revenge is what they want, they might start by revisiting the african villages where black african tribesman raided villages in order to capture slaves to sell to the white slave traders.
It's well past time --- generations past time -- for black americans to get it together. Unlike the waves of immigrants who followed, black americans have the luck of being born here with a leg up on the language. For the most part at this point any african american who lags behind does so because of a lack of self motivation.
Blacks who think otherwise, and people like you who enable their self destructive behavior and thinking - only make themselves irrelevant as the rest of the world passes them by.
May 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 09:32
RELIGION POISONS EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES!!
May 5, 2008 8:37 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 08:37
wright and obama are afrocentrics in an afrocentric church, why would you believe they don't believe the things wright preaches.
May 5, 2008 8:29 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 08:29
the people who embody the transcendent love of the African-American tradition include Wright, Malcolm X, and even John Brown: love does not mean servitude to judeo-christian white supremacist interests. Love requires that truth be told - it does not require that no mistakes ever be made in telling the truth. Love requires that the right thing be done - whether the wrongdoer wants to get it done or not: love requires overcomming the hater of truth - the hider of dark skin and non-eurocentric culture - the polluter of land, air, sea, and message of love. If the press - including you - have shown the transcendent love of your tradition, you must be equating love with a feeling of supremacy.
A lot of human beings carry a heavy conscience/sub-conscience about the acts of governments against innocent civilians such as blowing them up with atomic, nuclear, or smart bombs. Granted there are those who see a clear distinction between a non-governmental entity bombing an American civilian building in an act of terror and an American Governmental action of bombing Japanese civilian homes, churches, and buildings in an act of war the main distinction being that the American Government is always right and just in her actions while everyone outside of American Government and her sphere of innocent (usualy only white judeo-christian) citizens is not worthy of being placed in the same light as an American (white judeo-christian) citizen outside lip service to the sanctity of life.
If only American supremacists can be elected president, there will be no change in the way America will be viewed by the rest of the world. Obama bias towards the acceptance of judeo-christian white supremacy is similar to Clarence Thomas: they start with the premises that there is shame in criticizing or advocating against white racism and that judeo-christian white supremacy is the norm which all other cultures of people must adjust and conform to.
if the majority of churches are effectively white only, that doesn't leave as many choices for indoctrinated anti afro negroes to worship white jesus - does it?
Neo-Racist American white males are looking for Barak to be a white man in black skin... and THAT is supposed to tell the world that America is not racist anymore... and that all the killing of innocent darkies will continue to be done - in the name of security (for white judeo christians only)
chump change - that's what we want. two wrongs make fun of wright... gda racism.
May 5, 2008 7:30 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 07:30
Churches of all kinds were taken over by conservatives many years ago. The result of this takeover can be seen by the low attendance in most churches. Power churches like those run by the likes of Wright, TD Jakes, Joel Olsteen, Oral Roberts etc are solely interested in accumulating wealth and power based on their supposed relationship with and understanding of God.
These witless dispensers of the Gospel has done so much damage to the church that the church has been reduced to irrelevance. God has become a joke to millions of people because of these people’s antics but these slugs could care less.
The importance of wearing thousand dollar dresses and suits while driving luxury cars to deliver million dollar blessing to one of their own is the most important functions for these robbers of the poor.
The church is lost. Religion suffers blow after disgusting blow from those looking for reasons to ridicule God. The Reverend Wright and all the rest of these perverse representatives of God need to disappear and let a new generation of preachers that are more interested in spreading the word of God then the sickening siphoning of the wealth from the poor take over the church. END THE WAR IN IRAQ.
May 5, 2008 7:28 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 07:28
Unbeleivable what this guy's done to Barrack. And for what, he has single handidly turned this race around for Hillary. What a putz...
May 5, 2008 6:28 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 06:28
Unbeleivable what this guy's done to Barrack. And for what, he has single handidly turned this race around for Hillary. What putz...
May 5, 2008 6:27 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 06:27
jude 01;08 to jaremaih
May 5, 2008 5:27 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 05:27
JUDE 01;08 TO THE END in the bible.
May 5, 2008 5:23 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 05:23
Why is Rev Wright still on the table? Why is a nation in crisis following cheap tabloid angles on our candidates. We have an economy that is on the verge of collapse and we aren't even asking our candidates for details of the their plans to change it. Yet, we have picked every nuance of what Obama's preacher "really means". Are we suicidal? What happened to my country?
May 5, 2008 2:47 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 02:47
To be fair from what I understand Rev. Wright is not very good with the national spotlight being more of a niche guy. It sounds like he has had a legitimate career helping people who are less fortunate even if he does tend to pander a lot to people's insecurities and rage. I honestly don't think that he is unpatriotic but i do think he is unfit for the national spotlight and primetime, particularly if he can't learn to control himself and act a bit more professionally. I am sure there are a lot of differences between Obama's Harvard education and the life of a preacher and urban activist, who grew up in a harder america then the younger Obama.
Fundamentally, they might have had some simularities but the training Obama got in his ivy league school was some of the best in the nation. The gulf might be unrepairable, and certainly Wright is politically not getting anywhere, whereas Obama has the opportunity to do more because he is able to communicate with people who are more mainstream.
May 5, 2008 2:04 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 02:04
To be fair from what I understand Rev. Wright is not very good with the national spotlight being more of a niche guy. It sounds like he has had a legitimate career helping people who are less fortunate even if he does tend to pander a lot to people's insecurities and rage. I honestly don't think that he is unpatriotic but i do think he is unfit for the national spotlight and primetime, particularly if he can't learn to control himself and act a bit more professionally. I am sure there are a lot of differences between Obama's Harvard education and the life of a preacher and urban activist, who grew up in a harder america then the younger Obama.
Fundamentally, they might have had some simularities but the training Obama got in his ivy league school was some of the best in the nation. The gulf might be unrepairable, and certainly Wright is politically not getting anywhere, whereas Obama has the opportunity to do more because he is able to communicate with people who are more mainstream.
May 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 02:03
To be fair from what I understand Rev. Wright is not very good with the national spotlight being more of a niche guy. It sounds like he has had a legitimate career helping people who are less fortunate even if he does tend to pander a lot to people's insecurities and rage. I honestly don't think that he is unpatriotic but i do think he is unfit for the national spotlight and primetime, particularly if he can't learn to control himself and act a bit more professionally. I am sure there are a lot of differences between Obama's Harvard education and the life of a preacher and urban activist, who grew up in a harder america then the younger Obama.
Fundamentally, they might have had some simularities but the training Obama got in his ivy league school was some of the best in the nation. The gulf might be unrepairable, and certainly Wright is politically not getting anywhere, whereas Obama has the opportunity to do more because he is able to communicate with people who are more mainstream.
May 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 02:03
Many of the ideas that the US is based on (Democracy, freedom of press, the Bill of Rights etc....) are sound, what they fail in is the implimentation, and they fail spectacularly when they do. However as a nation based on a divide of optomism and pessimism, we've made some interesting progress. The nation I've grown up in, as someone under 30 years old, is fairly different then the country my parents grew up in and it is different from the nation my ancesters fought for in the revolutionary war. I think many of the changes are good, as they have helped us live up to the country's potential and not to stay stagnant in the past with the human imperfections of our elders.
Something I've noticed that has bothered me, is that while Martin Luther King Jr is revered by most americans, his message doesn't seem to reach many people. It is quite noticable when everyone talks about Martin Luther King Jr., yet it seems that many of the older black leaders perpetuate an idealogy that is very different from King's, and where religion and racial politics has become a vessel for conservatism more then for liberalism, as many activists obliquely attack King's message and the man is no longer here to defend his views. Lately there seems to be a lot more in the news about how his vision failed and how schools named for him are deteriorating, then where his movement succeeded in the reduction of a lot of legal barriers, which allowed normal people to succeed if they wanted to put forward the effort. There is also an assumption that the same allies he counted on during the bus boycotts, ie white liberals, can be depended to rubberstamp all messages by black activists, no matter how much race baiting and egocentrism goes on.
There were a lot of good messages that went through during the civil rights era that people my age weren't around to hear and certainly don't hear often now, except for during Obama's campaign (as well as the campaigns of a few of the younger black politicians- mostly in their 30's and 40's). I find the old court decision Brown v. The Board of Education brilliant, that "separate but equal is not equal." So why are the most segregated schools in america majority-minority? This is not healthy and it is certainly not equal. Lastly, to go forward as a nation we need to drop the assumption that schools are charity. If we don't educate our citizens better we'll fall behind as a place of international innovation, and we're already facing backlash from the world's population that has noticed that we have many poorly educated americans who graduated from of some of the poorer public schools that we've starved of resources and neglected in the 1980's- 2000s.
(While I am not impressed with any politician or political activists based solely on their race or gender, I will have to say, that Obama is just running a better campaign. I've been really annoyed with the Clintons' populism and race baiting. Obviouly there are things that both whites and blacks can do better to heal our divides and while i've seen the younger generation step up- both sides- I'd like to see more effort and less ego from older political activists. As most normal people are showing that they are willing adapt and compromise why are some members of the civil rights generation holding us back?- a criticism that also includes Clinton).
May 5, 2008 1:43 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2008 01:43
My name is Raul Pedraza I am a Cuban American U.S. Army veteran, my grandfather Rafael fought in the WW1 in the battle of the Marne, my son Jorge just returned from Iraq after having served proudly in the 82nd Airborne in Tikrit. I am also married to a wonderful african american woman.
the Rev Wright stuff is a manufactured issue by those trying to divert attention from their votes and support for the war in Iraq. Both Clinton and McCain are old time Washington insiders just the type of folks we need to remove in order to bring about positive change. Notice MCain trying the lets not go there on the preacher speech so we don't talk about his boys Falwell or Hagge. On to something important OK America?
I have absolutely no doubt about Barack Obama's patriotism and find him inspirational and ready to become Commander in Chief. I prefer the candidate of true integrity who can admit a mistake unlike Hillary and her vote for the Iraq war and sniper fire stories. Supporting John McCain will merely let the disastrous results of the George W. years continue to drag us down.
I use my real name in this blog instead of a pseudonym because I am very proud to be supporting Barack Obama for President and wish to dispel a few of the myths that the media continually pours down our throats. No not all Cubans support the Republicans, No not all Latinos favor Hillary over Barack, No not all Army veterans are for John McCain though we do honor his sacrifice it does not make him uniquely qualified to be our leader.
I have contributed all the hard earned dollars legally allowed me to support the man whom I had the great privilege of meeting at an inner city youth center in Miami's Overtown neighborhood.
Barack Obama is the real deal folks and I pray our great nation is smart enough to give us a President of integrity and Intellect two traits sorely missing as of late.
Again my name is Raul Pedraza and I wholeheartedly support Barack Obama for President of the Untied States.
May 4, 2008 11:02 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 23:02
I do not care about Obama's religion. I care that his experience is not sufficient to do the job. He should be Hillary's VP for 8 years and then become president. I have a feeling we'll regret it if he becomes president now.
May 4, 2008 10:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 22:12
Bernard F. Hillenbrand:
You are correct. Rev Wright's outburst is totally non-Christian. I am proud that I and a great majority of other whites fought and continue to fight to correct the unfairness of the past. It is working. Senator Barack obama is likely to be the next President of the United States inspite of former Pastor Judas Wright. Thank you. Rev. Bernard F. Hillenbrand
May 4, 2008 8:57 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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May 4, 2008 9:18 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 21:18
You are correct. Rev Wright's outburst is totally non-Christian. I am proud that I and a great majority of other whites fought and continue to fight to correct the unfairness of the past. It is working. Senator Barack obama is likely to be the next President of the United States inspite of former Pastor Judas Wright. Thank you. Rev. Bernard F. Hillenbrand
May 4, 2008 8:57 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 20:57
It is right for Rev Wright to empower the blacks and seek to better their condition in every way. It should be done in a Christian spirit of forgiveness and love for enemies, without inculcating hatred in the blacks for the whites and without perpetuating a mentality of remaining stuck in the past of slavery and a feeling of victim-hood about the subtle and not so subtle discrimination today. Teaching the blacks to take responsibility for what they can change in themselves and their communities should be a part of the empowering process.
May 4, 2008 8:48 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 20:48
someone wrote:
"well well boo boy is disappointed. disappointed that iman wright did not keep his hate of america, his hate of israel, his hate of jews, under wraps until after the eiection.
dont care what you think you islamic piece of lying garbage.
you cant be islamic and an American, you cant serve those two masters.
you cant be a good man and at the same time be a good islamic.
the koran tells you to hate, murder, kidnapp, torture, and force non islamics to be islamic. not individuals but your book of death, the koran.
islam started this war 1400 years ago and you are not going to stop until you rest with the nazi's in hell."
this sort of attitude is intolerable. wright's alleged 'hatred of jews' is no justification for an extremist to come into a public forum and religiously vilify 1.8 billion of the earth's population.
in doing so you insult the whole world - shame on you.
May 4, 2008 8:48 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 20:48
Rev Wright who lives a life of luxury is no Old Testament prophet. Even well established academics do not have access to such wealth. The blacks in the US do not live in slavery, so the symbolism of liberation is not so readily applicable. The blacks in the US do not suffer from the kind of government corruption and resulting poverty and oppression as people in Latin American countries where liberation theology was first formulated as answer to the political situation there.
May 4, 2008 8:40 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 20:40
It occurred to me that reading Noam Chomsky and others like him might be a good idea to understand Rev Wright better. Rev Wright's ideas seem to be a religious version of those thoughts, fashioned with Old Testament prophet symbolism, cut out for blacks in the US as answer to their experience of discrimination.
Rev Wright was careless about portraying some far fetched thoughts as facts which could be proved wrong. He was foolish to defend those errors so self-righteously. But as an intellectual he is no wacko. He is right there in the same league as Noam Chomsky and probably draws his political inspiration from their writing. He seems wacko only when he attributes that political style and content to the Old Testament prophets.
Rev Wright's social service conviction and work for the poor and marginalized in his community is Biblically based. Helping the poor with material goods was always a very important part of Christian ministry from its earliest days. It is ironic that something so fundamental to Christianity seems so communist in a capitalist democracy. Christianity is communist in that positive sense. That kind of socialism Europeans understand and practice.
May 4, 2008 8:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 20:20
I live in Bath, England and on ITV or the BBC they discussed Rev. Wright's appearance before the Washington Press Club and pointed out that sitting next to him, the black women in the yellow dress, who invited him to speak, was a well-know supporter of Hillary Clinton. I wonder if there is any discussion state-side that the Rev. Wright might have been willingly used by larger political forces for their own ends?
Dr. Scott M. Thomas
Dept of European Studies
University of Bath
May 4, 2008 7:14 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 19:14
I've been attending Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s South Side since moving to this wonderful city from Washington, D.C. four years ago. Some will be surprised to learn that I am white, Republican, and an honorably-discharged Viet Nam-era veteran (who, unlike Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others in the current Administration, volunteered to serve my country).
I was in the congregation at Trinity for the "God damn America" sermon and agreed with everything he said. On the several occasions when I heard Wright utter his now-infamous "the Chickens are coming home to roost" proclamation he was right on target every time. Only an idiot would, or could, believe otherwise.
Not once have I ever hear anything in Wright's preaching that is unpatriotic. Biased? Perhaps. Pandering? Of course. But never unpatriotic. I was also there on the dozens of occasions when Wright vociferously condemned the "prosperity pimps," misogynists, and homophobes among his clerical brethren. While the right-wingers will never admit it, Wright's long-time defense and support of women, the poor, and same-gender-loving (gay) persons and relationships is motivating many of those now attacking him. How about a little more truth-telling from the right-wingers?
Randell Franklyn Busby
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May 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 16:01
Mr. Patel,
Were you also disappointed by what Adolph Hitler did in his later life?
Early on he was very good at relating to dogs and children.
May 4, 2008 3:40 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 15:40
This article reflects a very poignant, moving glimpse into African-American ideals, beliefs and values.
As an Af-Am female, I was hoping -- intensely-- for some sort of reconciliation and restoration of hope through Rev. Wright. I had longed for a confirmation that the race discussion might moved to a higher plane. Rev. Wright sadly disappointed many of us on that fateful Monday morning at the press club. He allowed his ego to topple his legacy. I pity the man for the pathetic spectacle he became, but as Proverbs 16:18 says, "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."
I stand with Sen. Obama for denouncing Rev. Wright's acts, and I also stand with Sen. Obama as he moves us forward to help change our nation toward a more perfect union.
May 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 15:26
Can't liberals just state that Wright is a racist and hates America without going into some long attack on America first?
May 4, 2008 3:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 15:08
well well boo boy is disappointed. disappointed that iman wright did not keep his hate of america, his hate of israel, his hate of jews, under wraps until after the eiection.
dont care what you think you islamic piece of lying garbage.
you cant be islamic and an American, you cant serve those two masters.
you cant be a good man and at the same time be a good islamic.
the koran tells you to hate, murder, kidnapp, torture, and force non islamics to be islamic. not individuals but your book of death, the koran.
islam started this war 1400 years ago and you are not going to stop until you rest with the nazi's in hell.
May 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 14:49
This is nonsense. When are people going to stop repeating the bit about the sound bites -- the sound bytes did not msiconstrue or distort Rev. Wright's views, as he has made very clear in his recent remarks. They come from a recording put together from the church, because they expressed Wright's long and deeply-held beliefs. To say he simply behaved selfishly or with poor judgment in one particular moment (Monday)is profoundly disingenuous.
What it comes down to is, Rev. Wright's is to be criticized for embarrassing Obama, not for spreading destructive and dispiriting lies about the govt. trying to kill minorities, etc. (Ironically, exactly the kind of belief system that impedes some members minority groups from being able to fully participate in thi society and claim power.)
Give us a break.
May 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 14:23
One wonders whether Obama's "half-white" comments on his race versus Wright's "all black" heritage had anything to do with the pastor's self-immolation explosion that triggered his downfall.
May 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 14:17
African-Americans who live now have not been slaves. In the past, slavery was done all over the world in almost every country. Trying to change the past by obsessing is a waste of time, and what American would want to return to the poverty and misery of the African continent today? I am of the Bill Cosby school, who believes a little more work ethic and sincere dedication to educational activities would help the black community. I did note that of the 10 wealthiest individuals last year, the top two moneymakers were black (Oprah and Tiger Woods). Also, looking at photos of Rev.Wright's ten million dollar mansion (abuting a golf course)and his two new mercedes does little to convince me he's been oppressed. Same with Obama, who has been given a taxpayer funded Harvard education. Something is wrong with complainers who are never happy no matter what they get.
May 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 14:12
Please don't forget Maya Angelou.
May 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 13:55
The media has given Senator McCain a near free pass on his ties to Pastor Hagee.Like others, I'm seeing a double standard here. Why can Senator McCain just brush off someone who's made some hateful remarks?
Senator Obama, for all of his efforts, continues to struggle to distance himself from someone who's also made hateful remarks? Its become clear that Senator Obama does not necessarily share the beliefs that Reverend Wright espouses, yet day after day the media have some story about an alleged link.
What's wrong with this picture?
May 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 12:10
Roxlaw, thank you for sharing. Your post is very moving and revealing.
And Mr. Patel, you have echoed my own sentiments with your comments.
May 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 11:27
If Obama has any hope of being President he needs to throw his big ugly Racist wife under the Bus with his Grandmother and the Rev. Weight. I am sure the Obama cult will believe him when he tells them he just discovery she was an American hating, Racist!
Part of the Obama snow job where he portrayed Rev. Wright's paranoid rants as coming from anger that is the baggage as the legacy of of old white racism, carried by old blacks. Well, there is current-day stuff that is alive and well, carried by the young blacks, that is a lot worse than the racism, sexism and homophobic intolerance of the older generation of blacks. It's called Hip Hop, Gangsta and Street culture. It's full of racism, paranoia, anger, violence, abuse of women, sexism and a whole lot of dysfunctional antisocial expression schemes. The social psychological disordered behavior that Rev. Wright's hate-speech-as-sermons represents and coveys to blacks and supported by Obama is alive and well in the current-day generation in Black America. It's just in a newer more dangerous carnation.
Blacks leaders should start speaking out about taking some personal responsibility for high rate of high school drop out, sexual promiscuity, children born out of wedlock, , absence of male parenting/role models, drugs, crime, incarceration, AIDS, instead of playing the victimhood game and blaming whites for black failures! Until that time there will always be hate mongers & race baiter,s to use them and profit from their plight like the Rev. Wright, Rev. Jessie Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, as well as 10,s of thousands of White and Black Politicians. In fact the whole Democrat party! Hand outs, instead of a hand up, is the means of keeping Blacks down and economic Slaves! Keeping Blacks as an race of victims and believing all of the above is Whitey fault is designed to keep them from progressing instead of a race of achievers! It is in the best interest of Black preachers and Democrat politicians! Blacks will never be lead to the promise land by hate mongering Preachers like Rev. Wright or by bottom feeding Politicians that wants and works to keep Blacks in the Ghetto, on Welfare, and voting Democrat!
May 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 11:26
Rev. Wright did not change his message.
Obama dumped Wright for stating the truth... that Obama is just another politico.
Wright did nothing wrong.
actually what he did was correct. He kept his message exactly the same..It's Obama who changed and dumped Obama
.
Obama is NOT a victim
May 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 10:44
Mr. Patel,
I must say I am diappointed to read this article. As you mentioned a week ago you wrote an article where you suggested one should not judge a person based on single or few acts but judge them as a whole.
You have contradicted your own principle. This is a classic example where a person is not sure of his own convictions. Mr. Wright may have not as charming to you when he appeared at NPC however; you running away from his more disturbing. Would you abandon your freinds everytime you dont like something in them.
cheers
SB
May 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 09:40
Mr. Patel, thank you.
May 4, 2008 9:23 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 09:23
On Sunday mornings our churches are some of the most segregated buildings in America. Why? The reasons are many and for most of us that attend church services, where we worship is an intensely personal decision.
Growing up, I, my brother, sister and neighborhood friends were forced to attend a neighborhood catholic church where the mass was conducted in Latin. Therefore, we had no idea what was being preached. And while I am sure that the priests never spoke a racist word during mass, racism was rampant in the church.
The church was always filled to capacity, but we sat in pews that remained empty because the whites refused to sit next to us. On more than one occassion we were referred to as nigg-rs. Nevertheless, we were required to attend Sunday after Sunday where we tolerated the abuse until we completed our confirmation. My mother informed us that once we did that, we were no longer obligated to attend services at that church, and none of us ever did.
As small and innocent children, it was devastating to our psyches, spiritually and otherwise, as we sat in the "house of the Lord" where we were exposed to a level of racism that was evil and ungodly. And as a result, at least for me, I turned away from God because I could not fathom that a god that would allow that type of activity to take place in his home could be a god that I should believe in.
It would take another 30 years before I found my way back to church and when I did I found a church home that was 99% Black and AMEZ in denomination. There I was fed a combination of God's word and words of empowerment from a Black perspective. My Pastor was different from Pastor Wright, but spoke about injustice and inequality with a passion that was just as truthful and uplifting. There are many that might condemn my Pastor for speaking these truths, but I can assure you that no one in his congragation did so.
My final point is that many are posting that they attended white churches where the Pastors never uttered a racist word. But if that is true, and there were no people of color in your churches, did you ever ask yourselves why that was the case?
Nowadays, racism is not overt. The fact that you do not speak in racist/racialist terms does not mean that the environment of your church is one that is safe, welcoming and open to Blacks and people of color. And given the intensely personal nature of worship, people tend to worship in houses where they feel and believe they are treated with respect and dignity.
Please remember that the Black Church evolved out of necessity because white churches denied Blacks entry. It was the only place where we could go where we not degraded by a church philosophy that preached that we were inferior because we were the descendants of Ham. In the Black Church, we are fed God's word and the word that we are valuable in God's eyes. And that is something that we could not find in the white church.
May 4, 2008 1:26 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 01:26
Well, god bless you, we'll just scratch Rev. Wright from this here list. Done.
May 4, 2008 1:02 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 4, 2008 01:02
Love Undone
Oh love where is your sting
I pursue breaking away
From that which is an affliction
To experience a new thing
All the lies, cheating, and scrutinizing have played their course
The addiction holds secure without any remorse
Steal what you will un-natural affection
Alone for now but close is my redemption
Holding me to a higher standard
That you were not willing to live by
Hidden is your agenda hoping your whor*s will continue to lie
I have now seen the light since knowing about Portside
Hacking will not save you from me saying good-bye
O heartbreak where is your sting
It will lie within the one who neglected to consecrate the ring
Oh what a mistake you made in quenching the fire
Now what was once love has turned to a lack of desire
Others spoke for you and reported what I said
But I fed the lions the evil of which you dread
Now come hear the truth my life soon will begin anew
And in this newness hope is alive to be without you
Written by: Me
May 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 3, 2008 16:11
The injustice here is that the veracity of what Rev Wright has said is ignored and the focus seems to be on the incredulity that he said anything at all. He's speaking his truth and is denounced because it's controversial while the one leading the denunciations seeks to float unsubstantially above any and all controversy.
May 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 3, 2008 00:43
Shhaaaaame on "GEORGETOWN University: Jacques Berlinerblau ther "Chosen JU-Boy" acting Atheist.:
Increase your "I.Q." or your Child's by 5%-10%:
Please visit The birthplace & College of "O.U.R. Holy Cosmic "TRANS{FiNiTY}" (Ye Reality Awareness on a Holy Cosmic immortal MOVE…) and those whom will see that WE HUE {MATES} are in this Eternity Avoiding Lonliness Miracle (zero Sin/Curseth Bible Story‘s) , in and of Us All, Together Forever With Source-One (Eponymous ECLAT, aka ‘Holy No-Man’ & by 100 names not 99, is & was NEVER a He/Him nor a She/her in Any Biofinite Carbon-Based Form etc..!)
Hark! We are STUDENTS forever of Source-One & WE never Graduate!
Please visit one of “..AMERiCA‘S Best Colleges“ as per “U.S.-NEWS‘ Mag. et al:
http://www.marist.edu/
Shhaaaaaame On GEORGE TOWN University (college) via "Jacques BerlinerBlau, & Prejudice 'W A P O' via Sally 'Q U i N N' Et al for Deleting the Truth (opposite of MYTH) and attempting to controlling (censored) Us on this once respected Blogg!!
Note” GeorgeTown University & crew, gives Me (others too) a ‘Denial Of Service’ by saying, “ YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS BLOG…” (similar).
Behold:
Ye hath Sin'd a great Sin & the Curse is upon Ye. So be "IT"!
WHEREFORE:
GeorgeTown University Sucks! They failed “The “ECLAT{-i-} {ON} Test” Hence They are OFF! Soo
GeorgeTown University Sucks! Ya Ya Monsa Mono’s!
Do not Go There!
--- Instead, Go To
"MARiST COLLEGE" because,
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
---
Note: "Breathtaking & Beautiful MARiST COLLEGE", is in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., U.S.A. where the Founders Of AMERiCA made it all happen here, CONSTiTUTiON-WiSE and where WEST-POiNT , N.Y. is, Or where President ROOSEVELT ’s (pbuh) Mansion at located in “New Hyde Park” et al. and other great attractions of History that’s Prophetically near Marist etc..! And
MARiST COLLEGE, N.Y., is at the Heart & Center of the THREE-GREAT “New-Age” Religio(n’s), as Prophecied .
Imortant: It is known that these “3-NEW AGE” “Made in America” (not Imported Religio(n’s)) will, slowly, REPLACE-all other competitors of them curseth ‘FiVE (5) Major, Pre-Apocalyptic imported Religion’s” (ABRAHAMiC/3 & VEDiC/2) of TiMES Past & of Overseas, right-
Here, on Holy Cosmic Built via Momma Poppa NEBULA, O.ne U.niversal R. eligion Holy Blessed , S.PACE S.HIP Momma/Poppa Earth, aka S.S. GAiA, S.S. GEOiD, aka S.S. TELLUSng something! YES, via American-Made (not imported)
1) MORMON, Via Brethren ‘Joseph-Smith’ (pbuh) @ “CUMORAH-Mountain.” &
2) HOLY-MiZAN, aka TRANS{FiNiTY} , via Brethren Harry Theriault (pbuh) @ “TRANSF{iNiTY} mountain“ &
3) A COURSE iN MiRACLES, via ‘SCRiBE Sister Helen SCHUCMAN (pbuh) @ “WASHiNGTON HEiGHTS Mountain.“. And
MARiST was attended with folks like ,
T.V.‘s, Tough -Mouth, Bill Reilly’s , his Alma Mata !
Me also!
et al!
WE ECLAT{-i-{ON’s} , not OFF’s, LOVE A SMART MARiST "BROTHER‘s" & "SISTER‘s." or Similar minded Wow! Talking about ‘The Chosen?!”
Please Visit NOW! Ye will Feel & See & on some Cases, Hear The LORD aka Creator Of “O.U.R.” Miraculous (zero Sineth/Curseth) Photon’s in them Mountains from the Maker/Creator of O.U.R. Holy LiFE-TiME‘s!.
THANK YOU!
http://www.*marist.edu/
YES! “You’ll Be One Smart Cookie!”
Today is May 1.
====
BY: http://{J}***{O}***{Z}***{E}***{V}***{Z} **{dot}**{US}
May 2, 2008 12:30 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 2, 2008 12:30
Shhaaaaame on "GEORGETOWN University: Jacques Berlinerblau ther "Chosen JU-Boy" acting Atheist.:
Increase your "I.Q." or your Child's by 5%-10%:
Please visit The birthplace & College of "O.U.R. Holy Cosmic "TRANS{FiNiTY}" (Ye Reality Awareness on a Holy Cosmic immortal MOVE…) and those whom will see that WE HUE {MATES} are in this Eternity Avoiding Lonliness Miracle (zero Sin/Curseth Bible Story‘s) , in and of Us All, Together Forever With Source-One (Eponymous ECLAT, aka ‘Holy No-Man’ & by 100 names not 99, is & was NEVER a He/Him nor a She/her in Any Biofinite Carbon-Based Form etc..!)
Hark! We are STUDENTS forever of Source-One & WE never Graduate!
Please visit one of “..AMERiCA‘S Best Colleges“ as per “U.S.-NEWS‘ Mag. et al:
http://www.marist.edu/
Shhaaaaaame On GEORGE TOWN University (college) via "Jacques BerlinerBlau, & Prejudice 'W A P O' via Sally 'Q U i N N' Et al for Deleting the Truth (opposite of MYTH) and attempting to controlling (censored) Us on this once respected Blogg!!
Note” GeorgeTown University & crew, gives Me (others too) a ‘Denial Of Service’ by saying, “ YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS BLOG…” (similar).
Behold:
Ye hath Sin'd a great Sin & the Curse is upon Ye. So be "IT"!
WHEREFORE:
GeorgeTown University Sucks! They failed “The “ECLAT{-i-} {ON} Test” Hence They are OFF! Soo
GeorgeTown University Sucks! Ya Ya Monsa Mono’s!
Do not Go There!
--- Instead, Go To
"MARiST COLLEGE" because,
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
GeorgeTown University Sucks!
---
Note: "Breathtaking & Beautiful MARiST COLLEGE", is in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., U.S.A. where the Founders Of AMERiCA made it all happen here, CONSTiTUTiON-WiSE and where WEST-POiNT , N.Y. is, Or where President ROOSEVELT ’s (pbuh) Mansion at located in “New Hyde Park” et al. and other great attractions of History that’s Prophetically near Marist etc..! And
MARiST COLLEGE, N.Y., is at the Heart & Center of the THREE-GREAT “New-Age” Religio(n’s), as Prophecied .
Imortant: It is known that these “3-NEW AGE” “Made in America” (not Imported Religio(n’s)) will, slowly, REPLACE-all other competitors of them curseth ‘FiVE (5) Major, Pre-Apocalyptic imported Religion’s” (ABRAHAMiC/3 & VEDiC/2) of TiMES Past & of Overseas, right-
Here, on Holy Cosmic Built via Momma Poppa NEBULA, O.ne U.niversal R. eligion Holy Blessed , S.PACE S.HIP Momma/Poppa Earth, aka S.S. GAiA, S.S. GEOiD, aka S.S. TELLUSng something! YES, via American-Made (not imported)
1) MORMON, Via Brethren ‘Joseph-Smith’ (pbuh) @ “CUMORAH-Mountain.” &
2) HOLY-MiZAN, aka TRANS{FiNiTY} , via Brethren Harry Theriault (pbuh) @ “TRANSF{iNiTY} mountain“ &
3) A COURSE iN MiRACLES, via ‘SCRiBE Sister Helen SCHUCMAN (pbuh) @ “WASHiNGTON HEiGHTS Mountain.“. And
MARiST was attended with folks like ,
T.V.‘s, Tough -Mouth, Bill Reilly’s , his Alma Mata !
Me also!
et al!
WE ECLAT{-i-{ON’s} , not OFF’s, LOVE A SMART MARiST "BROTHER‘s" & "SISTER‘s." or Similar minded Wow! Talking about ‘The Chosen?!”
Please Visit NOW! Ye will Feel & See & on some Cases, Hear The LORD aka Creator Of “O.U.R.” Miraculous (zero Sineth/Curseth) Photon’s in them Mountains from the Maker/Creator of O.U.R. Holy LiFE-TiME‘s!.
THANK YOU!
http://www.*marist.edu/
YES! “You’ll Be One Smart Cookie!”
Today is May 1.
====
BY: http://{J}***{O}***{Z}***{E}***{V}***{Z} **{dot}**{US}
May 2, 2008 12:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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