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Anonymous writes: "I will not speak if I donot have freedom of speech provided by Islam and I assure You that Truth Hurts"

What freedom of speech provided by Islam? Islam does not provide any freedom of speech. Kill those who insult the prophet? That is what you call freedom of speech?

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?QR=22809&ln=eng

The scholars are unanimously agreed that a Muslim who insults the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) becomes a kaafir and an apostate who is to be executed. This consensus was narrated by more than one of the scholars, such as Imaam Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh, Ibn al-Mundhir, al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad, al-Khattaabi and others. Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/13-16

You do not even know what is the most basinc meaning of freedom of speech. You live in terror of your own thoughts. You live in the fear of a Hell implanted in you since the day you were born.

"Although Your thoughts are free but cannot help you imagine yourself in Hell. So what kind of Hipocracy you practice."

There you go. There it is Hell in your thoughts. Hell Fire mentioned to you tens of times a day and you cannot think of anything else. Terrified you live of having a single free thought. Have you ever had an independent thought by yourself?

"And what kind of freedom of speech you preach when you cannot digest the truth being told about you."
What truth? Your fervid imagination of a Hell does not make it true. Provide a single proof of something you claim is true. Just one independent proof will do.

"The Creator of this Universe will make you Die & Your Dante and ensure that You receive the punisment reserved for insulting The Most Nobel Person ever born on earth. Prevent your self if you can. You are responsible for your own destiney."

Muhammad was not the most nobel person ever born. Everythin that is told about Muhammad belies that.
Do you think enslaving thousand of women and children and gift them and selling them and ransoming them are the deeds of a noble person? Do you think looting, killing, raping are the deeds of a noble person? Your brain is so terrified of hell that you cannot think. The terror of hell scares children and muslims like you who are unable to free themselves of the terror placed into their very soul.

"At times we get emotional as we love our Prophet more than our kids. Today, we don't bury baby girls alive, we dont commit adultry, we donot drink wine.....etc, you know why, because he taught us Islam, the righteous way of life."

You do not even know that you are being just plain stupid. Pre-Islamic Arabs did not bury baby girls. It was perhaps the activity of some morons in a single tribe. In Pakistan many muslims are still killing baby girls because they want boys, but now the blame is on "culture" although the muslims are doing it. Go look up the statistics on adultry in the muslim world. Human nature is different in the muslim world? You don't commit adultry but the shias still have Mutah marriages and the sunnis have Misyar marriages? Give money to the mullah and you can have marriage for two hours? Pay the money to the parents and you can have marriage visiting rights to the girl and call it marriage. Is that what you mean there is no adultry in Islam? Phooey to that type of lying and crushing the women under your Islamic hypocrisy.

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A misyar contract is a marriage contract where couples can live separately but get together regularly, often for sexual relations.
Although allowed in Saudi Arabia and under Sunni Islam, misyar is not popular with many who see it as legal prostitution. Women lose nearly all their rights in a misyar marriage.
Nearly 80% of misyar relationships end in divorce.

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And you don't drink wine and is that why there are breweries all across the muslim lands? It is true that alcohol consumption is lower in the East Mediterranean countries than it is in the west, but don't fool yourself that muslims don't drink. The rich among the muslims are some of the worst lushes around. You don't even know when you are lying. You may want to peddle your silly lies to someone who does not know Islam and has not travelled and live among muslims most of his life.

A. Kafir:

I will not speak if I donot have freedom of speech provided by Islam and I assure You that
Truth Hurts:

Although Your thoughts are free but cannot help you imagine yourself in Hell. So what kind of Hipocracy you practice.

And what kind of freedom of speech you preach when you cannot digest the truth being told about you.

The Creator of this Universe will make you Die & Your Dante and ensure that You receive the punisment reserved for insulting The Most Nobel Person ever born on earth. Prevent your self if you can. You are responsible for your own destiney.

At times we get emotional as we love our Prophet more than our kids. Today, we don't bury baby girls alive, we dont commit adultry, we donot drink wine.....etc, you know why, because he taught us Islam, the righteous way of life.

Anonymous writes: "The Destination of a Kafir is Hell!!!"

I assure that if there is a Hell and the Creator of all is just, then as Dante wrote, Muhammad is roasting in the deepest part of Hell.

As long as Kafirs are able to keep and maintain their right to freedom of speech and thought, you are more than welcome to your flourishing economies.

The Destination of a Kafir is Hell!!!

They cannot go to land of florishing economy.

Anonymous writes:

"You are the one who is decaying and degenerating whereas the lands of Islam are flourishing. Read some economy and try to be analytical, perhaps hard for a brain damaged person.

You are the one who is issuing confused and conflicting statements. Correct."

LoL!! How typical! No proof, no evidence, nothing. Just a whine?

Well then hopefully the long lines of the muhammadans wanting to get into the decaying and degenerating countries will diminish, and hopefully some of the muhammad followers among the kaffirs will choose to go to the flourishing lands of islam. Let the kafirs know if there is anything we can do to speed that up.

A. KAfir

You got it wrong again!!

You are the one who is decaying and degenerating whereas the lands of Islam are flourishing. Read some economy and try to be analytical, perhaps hard for a brain damaged person.

You are the one who is issuing confused and conflicting statements. Correct.

Anonymous,

Islam damages the analytical part of the human brain when it comes to matters on islam or muhammad. You are drowning in fear of your judgment day. The boogey Allah will get you and will burn you for ever and ever and ever. Be afraid be very very very afraid of allah and his fire. No wonder the lands of Islam are decaying and degenerating.

As far as when the hell fire is used, now or only after judgment day, Muhammad as usual was confused and asserted conflicting statements. So go check on your quran and hadiath and blame them for when the hell fire begins.

To a Kafir & his proxies:

Islam is a complete religion.

It appears that you haven't applied enough thought, for example the verse quoted by you says "111:3 Soon he will be broiled in blazing fire"

. . . and you have started calculating how many times a man should burn over a period of 1400 years.

Have you ever heard about day of judgement . . .

Anonymous writes; "before you find yourself in the same situation like Abi Lahab"

And there is the sum of all morality and religion for the followers of Muhammad. Terror and fear ... that is it. Be very very very afraid of the boogey man Allah ... he will burn your and he will roast you and you will be very very very sorry.

Is that it? Is that your Islam?

This poor person writes;
"Read it again and apply some thought;"
about koranic verse 111:1~4, I'd like to ask him a very simple question; How can such utterances be attributed to a creator? Those are clearly words of an extremly frustrated "rasool" who of course cannot kill/murder his very own uncle so in his fit of rage he spews these "verses". Look at them and tell us what kind of creator can write such crap?
"111:3 Soon he will be broiled in blazing fire" What is this? who writes this rubbish? It is these verses that keep you coming back to your allah, you live in fear.
Couldn't allah simply eliminate this guy? why did he have to say such vile words that you muslims repeat like parrots?

Think for a little, Creator creates man, then lites a hot fire somewhere in the heavens perhaps on planet Mercuary, Creator really hates this Lahab man, stokes his fire, waits for Lahab AND his wife to die, throws them in his huge bon-fire. Skin charred - Creator re-creates the charred body, stoke fire some more, burns Lahab and his wife's a$$ again, Creator hears screams - gloats for five celestial minutes then skin really charred - Creator carefully recreates burn victims skin, repeats torture infinite times. What is this? Doens't anyone find this stupid? Back 1400 years ago the dumb Arabs could buy that rubbish, today 2008 arn't you embarrassed by such "verses"? I know many Muslims are embarrassed by the Hadith, in fact great saints like Bokhari etc are no longer quoted. Could it be that soon even the koran will be relegated to the stupid shelf one day?

This guy then says this to scare others;
"before you find yourself in the same situation like Abi Lahab "
Sweetheart, Abu Lahab and his wife have been burning since 1400 years and Creator has been gloating and re-creating his skin over and over don't you think that he's tired of doing that by now? Lets do some math;
Burn 1 man in very hot Allah-fire = 4 seconds.
Recreate 1 man skin by Allah = 2 seconds;
1400 years of this darn I'd need a computer to compute that.

A. Kafir & his proxies, you have quoted a very good verse from the holy Qoran, for your own benifit:

Read it again and apply some thought;

Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem

"111:1 [With the help and triumph achieved with the Guidance of Allah{110:1}] Perished is the power of Abi Lahab [and the substance, authority, priesthood, and religious dogma that he epitomises] and doomed is he to suffer loss, diminution and perdition.

111:2 All his wealth and exploits [for which he offered such a stiff resistance to the Divine Order] will not avail him aught against his demise

111:3 Soon will he be broiled in the blazing fire

111:4 And his wife [with all those whom she represents] who incited, instigated, slandered and smear-campaigned [against the Divine Order]"

before you find yourself in the same situation like Abi Lahab

Moody:

You say "Women get rapped every 8th hour in Pakistan means 1095 approxi in an YEAR in the population of almost 170 million (which is even than not exceptable by Muslim standards)."

That is the number reported. The true number is much higher because victims are hesitant to report for fear that they might incriminate themselves according to the Sharia stipulation of four Muslim men witnesses. But this was not the intent of my post i.e.compare numbers of rapes in different countries. It was to expose your usual false claims. I do not really figure out whether you are mentally handicapped or simply play dumb to avoid facing up to your inconsistences. It is people like you who make a constructive dialogue near impossible.

A slave of Allah writes this...
"When you people started revising holy books like the Torah & the Bible. The creator decided to send and preserve till the last day, the final word in the form of "Qoran" "
Lets read the "final" word from the "Qoran"...
111:1 [With the help and triumph achieved with the Guidance of Allah{110:1}] Perished is the power of Abi Lahab [and the substance, authority, priesthood, and religious dogma that he epitomises] and doomed is he to suffer loss, diminution and perdition.

111:2 All his wealth and exploits [for which he offered such a stiff resistance to the Divine Order] will not avail him aught against his demise

111:3 Soon will he be broiled in the blazing fire

111:4 And his wife [with all those whom she represents] who incited, instigated, slandered and smear-campaigned [against the Divine Order]

Please tell us how does a creator write such crap about its creation? Creator here is pi$$ed off at mo's uncle, he is so pi$$ed that he does not even spare his wife, that poor thing has to burn also.

Moody and Anonymous,

I showed you what Yasmin Alibhai of UK has to say. Instead of answering my question, you choose to divert the issue by dragging in one of the hates of Islam. Islamic Sharia kills homosexuals. We know that. Islamic Sharia kills apostates. We also know that. Allah tells you to torture humans to death. Allah tells you to cut off peoples limbs. Allah tells you to stone humans to death. And that is what I have been asking you about. Why so much cruelty and hatred from your savage Allah? Why?

Then the stupidity that Quran has not been changed or altered. Do you think the Bible or the Torah that sits in the Museums and are from before the time of Muhammad have some how magically changed? As far as the claim that Quran has not changed, better look at the research by Ibn Warraq and others, and they have put to rest even that lie.

Why do you follow a savage and a barbarian like Muhammad? Why don't you try, just try, to use your brains just a little bit? Do you think for a second that the entire world is not going to see the absolute barbarity and hideousness and evil of your death cult? Do you really think that the questions I ask are not going to be asked more and more by everyone around the world?

Ajit wrote;
"The homosexuals want to engage in deviant sexual (mis)conduct. They do not want any opposition to this abnormal destructive behavior."

Blaming certain groups of people for serious shortcomings in Islam is not the solution to the problem. Have you any proof that Homosexuals are behind the destruction of heterosexual relationships or religion for that matter? That homosexuals want to engage in deviant sexual (mis)conduct is simply your opinion without any backing it is meaningless drivel.

"I have read many blogs where Christians and Orthodox Jews also condemn this sexual misconduct, many homosexuals come out and condemn Christianity and Judaism as well."

Reading blogs where Christians and Jews congregate does not mean anything, it may be that homosexuals condemn Christianity and Judaism because their scriptures condemn the homosexual act. A homosexual had no choice in his/her orientation they simply want to be accepted as humans and not discarded.

Ajit writes this gem;
"Since Eboo writes about Islam and Muslims, a bunch possibly of homosexuals are out there to attack him and his religion."

So by your reasoning the only people who see fault with Islam are homosexuals. Homosexuals are very smart if they are allowed to live they prove to be good tax paying citizens. They generally have above average intelligence and I would listen to them when they criticize Islam.

The all wise Ajit then makes this sweeping statement...
"This bunch professes that homosexuality is not a choice. That is a bunch of balony. It is a choice, it can be controlled and abstained."

Perhaps you are a homosexual and you know this?

Ajit the slave of Allah then writes;
"To the demented mind a woman's body is "beautiful". Ask any biologists and he/she will tell you that in biology there is no such thing as "beautiful"."

Biologists typically study animals and plants or zoology and botany. The study of human behavior is another science. In case you don't know but the human mind is much more complex than that of our nearest kin the chimps and apes. Typical heterosexual humans do find the opposite sex appealing and beautiful; homosexuals find some of their own kind beautiful. Humans, the normal ones if not suppressed as in Islam express beauty in the form of Art. Art a human trait was killed by your misogynist, last messenger, rasool allah, prophet mohammed. How would you or that biologist of yours know what beautiful is. Also, I don't need to ask any biologist what is so obvious since the dawn of man especially that biologist from Al-Azhar university in Cairo BFE.

Ajit You need to know a fundamental problem with your Islam; the hatred for Art, Art expresses beauty. It is no wonder you and your Al-Azhar biologists hate the word beautiful.

Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:

It is amazing to see you people don't understand the simple fact "Word of God cannot be changed".

When you people started revising holy books like the Torah & the Bible. The creator decided to send and preserve till the last day, the final word in the form of "Qoran"

Go and change millions of books that are written by humans with inherent errors.

The problems/flaws with/in the basics of Islam are repeated again and again because no Muslim has yet to utter one line of disagreement i.e. meaning the following flaws in Islam are true.

1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies".

2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues. Address them, correct them then ask again to be allowed into the civil world!!!!!

And accusing someone of spreading/"parroting" hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

A. Kafir: Thought of the Day

Why do you always apply your Ass when you need to apply your Brain

A. Kafir: Thought of the Day

Why do you always apply your Ass when you need to apply your Brain.

Sadly- secularists (along with homosexuals, jews, and christians) have been considered and rejected in this group of videos taken at a large British mosque. If you've always wondered what muslems are really saying among themselves- this is a real eyeopener:

MUST SEE-

Undercover Mosque 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlV-6-FihFg

A. Kafir,

Let me rephrase it!
Using or not using brain is one thing.
Having it in THE creamy yellowish middle of male buttock is another.

Your last post sounds like you are the advisory and belong to THE Gay Community??

Correct me if I’m wrong!

Ibrahim Mahfouz,

Lets for the sake of argument,
as per your information (which is not much authentic

Women get rapped every 8th hour in Pakistan means

1095 approxi in an YEAR in the population of almost 170 million (which is even than not exceptable by Muslim standards).

What about West lets only talk about USA,

According to International Crime Watch, , Your own USA Crime Dept.

more than 2800 womens get raped EVERY DAY, in less than every 32 seconds AND THAT FIGURES ARE EXCLUDING UNREGISTERED RAPES.

Means more than 1 million get raped every year in ALONE WESTERNIZED USA.

EVERY 2ND WOMEN GETS RAPED IN USA ONCE IN HER LIFE TIME.

NOW IF THERE IS LITTLE BIT OF SHAME YOU HAVE THEN GET LOST!!!!

A. Kafir,

Using or not using brain is one thing. Having it between the butock cheeks is another.

I hope you do not belong to THE Gay Community??

Moody,

Now you are regressing into blurting nonsensical islamic propaganda. Do you really believe in the utter nonsense you have written?

This is what an educated muslim woman in UK says about Islamic Sharia:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-what-he-wishes-on-us-is-an-abomination-780186.html
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Look around the Islamic world where sharia rules and, in every single country, these ordinances reduce our human value to less than half that is accorded a male; homosexuals are imprisoned or killed, children have no free voice or autonomy, authoritarianism rules and infantilises populations.

What's more, different Muslim nations claim to have their own allegedly god-given sharia. In Saudi Arabia, women cannot drive (What in Allah's name could the Koran have warned about cars?).

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The Iranian theocracy changes its regulations from year to year, capriciously playing with the lives of females. The morality police hound women and girls, beat them up, imprison them for showing an ankle, walking too provocatively or singing in the streets. They fight back but are ground down eventually.
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Two Iranian friends chose to die rather than live under the demeaning religious orders. Go to Afghanistan if you fancy a 12-year-old bride – a practice approved by the mullahs. That's sharia for you. Many women, gay men and dissidents came to Britain to escape Islamic tyrants and their laws. Dr Williams supports those laws and, by default, makes the refugees victims again.

Four years ago, a Saudi woman in her fifties came to my home. She was divorced from a Saudi prince who had sent her away and kept her children. What she said about sharia cannot be repeated. She had money, this princess, but no parental rights and she howled like a child in excruciating pain in my living room.
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Moody don't you feel the slightest shame in trying to push your misogynist death cult? You do have a brain. Try using it some time.

Ibrahim Mahfouz:

It is of no use clarifying against hatred full CONSTANT lies.

ANY BODY CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR POSTS!
KEEP ON LYING TO MAKE YOUR POINTS, CARRY ON!!!!

Islamic Sharia Law:

BAD NEWS FOR CRIMINALS!!!!

Killers, Molesters, Thieves, Rapists, Abusers, Drug Abusers, Violence lovers.

Good news for,

1- Women’s, up lifting there status, protecting there due rights as Mothers, Sisters, Wife’s & Daughters, Nieces or relatives. Rejecting any possibility of there becoming mistresses, prostitutes or public property for casual use and for nude display like all over in ONLY West in the name of freedom and culture and forcing them to do labor and earn themselves, raise children and maintain housing ALL ALONE, no body is sharing permanent responsibility. Just Freedom Free For Sex. (And backward Muslims are denouncing that all to there women’s, HUH! stupid they are RIGHT?)

2- Children’s rights about there proper up bringing and nurturing. Saving them from "Homo Unnatural Incest Struck Parents".

3- For parents to give them there due respect and position keep them together when they are old and needy like they nurture and brought up us for our first 18-25 years.
4- Neighbors,
5- And ALL Communities.

Islamic Sharia Law:

BAD NEWS FOR CRIMINALS!!!!

Killers, Molestors, Theives,Rapists,Abusers,Drug Abusers, Voilence lovers.

Good news for,

1- Womens, up lifting there status, protecting there due rights as Mothers, Sisters, Wifes & Daughters, Nices or relatives. Rejecting any possibility of there becoming mistresses, prositutes or public property for casual use and for nud display like all over in ONLY West in the name of freedom and culture and forcing them to do labor and earn themselves, raise childern and maintain housing ALL ALONE, no body is sharing permanent responsibility. Just Freedom Free For Sex.(And backward Muslims are denouncing that all to there womens, HUH! stupid they are RIGHT?)

2- Childerns rights about there proper up bringing and nurturing. Saving them from "Homo Unnatural Incest Struck Parents".

3- For parents to give them there due respect and position keep them togather when they are old and needy like they nuture and brought up us for our first 18-25 years.
4- Neighbours,
5- And ALL Communities.

Thanks for the link:

“Islamic Law, Rape and Women’s rights”

http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002976.html

Moody:
You say in your post of Feb.17 at1:29 AM regarding evidence for conviction of rape in the Sharia:

-” 4 witnesses required (Which is almost impossible & not required in case if woman is raped)”.

In the article “Islamic Law, Rape and Women’s rights” it states the following:
“Very few cases of rape happen with four witnesses present, let alone four "reliable and truthful" Muslim witnesses. For this reason, there is currently a virtual epidemic of gang rape in Pakistan. According to HCRP, a woman is gang-raped every eight hours in Pakistan. Women are fearful of reporting cases of rape, as the law demands that she produces four witnesses. Unable to do so, she automatically is considered to have proved herself guilty of zina (adultery) under clause 8 (a) by means of making a full confession.”
www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002976.html

Anonymous writes: "
Gentlemen:
Punishments are periscribed based on the gravity of commited Crimes.
See a man without a hand & try to imagine yourself comitting the same crime. Being a Human,its impossible. Therefore what happens Crime rate!!!"

Another Muhammadan telling the Kafirs that cutting of limbs is the way to go to control crime because Quran says so .. because Allah ordera it so.

Facts be damned. Do yourself a favor and check the facts for yourself. Why is it that the Islamic nations are still cutting off limbs after 1400 years, if it such an impossibility? And do yourself a favor and check the actual crime rates in Pakistan, Iran and Arabia and a little less reliance on the propaganda of no crime rates in Arab countries!!!

And what do you think of blood money for murder? How about the life of a kafir woman being worth only an eigth of a muslim man?

Stop the Hatred:

Why do you resort to rhetorical tricks? You have not even attempted to answer the questions posed to you. At least Moody has the honesty and integrity to look up the answer at Zacker the Quacker site and try to show it. He believes in the answer he gives. You do not even have that much honesty!! Moody thinks that men need barbarity and savagery on one hand and then he turns around and tells that the west is imposing lax laws all over the world and ruining societies everywhere. How about you?

Why don't you at least try to tell us what you think of Allah telling to cut off limbs, killing by torturing to death, stoning to death, etc.? At least have the conviction to answer. If I have missed your answer, which I do not believe I have, then where and when does the question arise to accept defeat in discussion. Show me that I am wrong. I will be the happiest person if you can show me that I am wrong. For you it is merely a discussion. For me it is having to come to terms that I am no longer a muslim because Islam is false, and Allah is not real. How can I or for that matter YOU believe in an Allah that is as savage and as cruel as ordering people to kill other people by torturing them to death!! Just plain killing, just plain "put them to death" was not and is not good enough for your Allah!! He has to order ... crucify them, stone them, cut their limbs off.

So please have the decency and answer. Do you agree with Moody? Do you think that thieves should have their hands cut off? Iran just cut off the hand of 20 young men. Moody says he does not see too many people with a missing hand or foot in Saudi Arabia. How about you?

Stop the hatred,

The problems/flaws with/in the basics of Islam are repeated again and again because no Muslim has yet to utter one line of disagreement i.e. meaning the following flaws in Islam are true.

1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies".

2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues. Address them, correct them then ask again to be allowed into the civil world!!!!!

And accusing someone of spreading/"parroting" hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

" A. Kafir:

'Stop the Hatred', Unable to answer a simple question? You charge and then you run away and cannot justify a simple statement. Why does Islam damage the human brain so much?"

When you resort to this kind of rhetoric, it is obvious that you are unable to accept defeat in your discussion.

'Stop the Hatred', Unable to answer a simple question? You charge and then you run away and cannot justify a simple statement. Why does Islam damage the human brain so much?

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Moody,

You Apologized for being ignorant? You did not know. Now you defend savagery and barbarism by making up fictional tales. Women are being stoned in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan ... so much for your justification of it is impossible to find 4 witness. Not only that but if the woman is raped, and she brings the charge and is unable to produce the witness, she is charge with adultry and stoned to death. Islamic justice for you!! And before you go off like a fool charging never happens, look up some cases in the great islamic lands that I have mentioned.

And Zaker the Quacker and his site is filled with lies and stupidities. You keep cutting and pasting from it, and you think that answers anything? I hope the Kafirs can see clearly that through all of Moody's yelling and screaming his answer is that the Islamic countries are correct in imposing the cruel and unusal punishments and it is the modern world that is at fault for not imposing them. Islamic Sharia cannot budge from the 7th century barbarism because it is in the Quran.

Notice, moody did not say anything about crucifixion. He did not know but now he knows it is in the Quran, hence he is all for it and thinks it is a great deterrence and should be applied. That is a islam in a nutshell.

Gentlemen:

Punishments are periscribed based on the gravity of commited Crimes.

See a man without a hand & try to imagine yourself comitting the same crime. Being a Human,its impossible. Therefore what happens Crime rate!!!

"Is this how you teach your children to LOVE LIFE and their fellow man? Have a human heart, StopThe Hatred, and live up to your name by denouncing the treatment of children shown in these utubes publicly- here and now":

Stop Teaching Your Children the Goal of Life is Suicide and Murder:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xc_5LbRe5p8

Twelve yr old Child Bride is Abused by "Husband"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7So-1o2bkAY

Perhaps the good Eboo Patel would also add his comments of condemnation.

For a progressive society like America, The discussions are expected to be constructive.

It appears to have been hijacked by small minority of intolerant Anti-Muslim bigots.

Shame on those Kafirs & their rotten pessimistic thoughts, I wish they were never American - The land of Liberty, Freedom and Opportunity.

Concerned The Christian Now Liberated:

Here goes the parrot again. Parrots can repeat the same thing again and again.

To All Muslims,

Your problems go beyond the Bin Ladens, the Shiite Iranian crazies and the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

The problems are in the basic foundations of Islam itself as one can see from the following:

1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies".

2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues.

Address them, correct them then ask again to be allowed into the civil world!!!!!

And accusing someone of spreading hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

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Deport ALL of the VATICAN 'PRE-APOCALYPTIC POLY-THEO Catholic Roman Empire "PEDAPHILE/HOMOSEXUAL-PRIESTS/BISHOPS/CARDINALS" & their SuperStupidStitious Man-Made (not genuine HOLY-COSMIC ECLATi made SYSTEM ) back overseas from whence they illegally Imported their 'CURSE & SIN(s)' into older U.S.A., but no longer into the "New APOCALYPTIC-AMERICA-NATiON" U.S.A of 100 States!!!!

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VOTE: DEPORT ALL, Not-Made-IN-A*M*E*R*i*C*A, PRE-APOCALYPTIC old-time iMPORTED Religions, Not MEXICANS!

INstead Unite MEXICO w/U.S.A for an Additional 10 States!!! As a Matter of fact, VOTE to Merge & Absorb All AMERICA upto & No Further than PANAMMA, ironically John McCAINS "Birth Place! "Imagine" (john Lennon; pbuh) 100 U.S. States?

Then We can Say Good bye Middle East & Good Ridence!!!

Important: The Chinese Zionist {MAO's et al} are in Mexico too & populated Mexico 10-fold in last 10 Years! Remember, the Chinese want to POISON Americano's Minds via their Dangerous/un-Healthy Products!!! So They [Chinese Atheistic/Zionists] must be kicked-out of there ASAP! Ya Ya!

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Please see these linko's on Cindy Lou Hensley the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.

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Shame Shame John & Cindy McCAIN!! Kennedy's too!

So: Vote: Deport John McCain all the way back to Panama YEA!

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"There is a fundamental problem with all Muslims and to put it in perspective in Islam; sex. There is too much emphasis put on the sexuality of humans. If Muslims could only come to terms with the human body it would take away 80% of Islam’s problems. Any practicing Muslim will first home in on the sex crimes and will direct all societies problems to the woman’s clothes and how much of her body must be allowed to be seen. On this very page to the right I see the beautiful body of Jillian Michaels, to all Muslims and to Islam this is Kufar or najiz, or dirty. To them this is the cause of degradation of society, a woman’s body; therefore they cover and hide the female."

This guy limits his problem of sex only to Muslims. He claims to be of Pakistani origin. Then he should know that Hinduism (next door), other Asians, and Africans also condemn making women as sex objects. And so do Christians and Jews.

Our Hindu women also practice modesty in dress. Any one who knows the story of Rama knows that Rama fought Rakshas (evil) Ravana to protect the honor and dignity of his wife, Sita.

To the demented mind a woman's body is "beautiful". Ask any biologists and he/she will tell you that in biology there is no such thing as "beautiful".

It is a mental construct and hence : a woman's beautiful body should be looked at only by her husband and not by some sexual predator and pervert out there.

Arif wrote:

"I always wanted to do an experiment, lock 30 Mullahs in a room and show them porn movies for 30-hours straight. Let them out for a short break and do this drill for 2 years. I wonder if they would drop sex from their world problem agenda and leave the woman and her naked body out of world problems, concentrate only on the Jew and Palestine."

Biologists teach us from early school years the organs made for different functions--digestion (gastro-intestinal), breathing, blood pumping (heart),and (sex) reproduction, to name just a few.

The homosexuals want to engage in deviant sexual (mis)conduct. They do not want any opposition to this abnormal destructive behavior.

Since most religions condemn deviant sexual (mis)conduct) because it violates the natural process and amounts to moral misconduct, some (not all) homosexuals go the extreme and make it their religion to oppose religion.

I have read many blogs where Christians and Orthodox Jews also condemn this sexual misconduct, many homosexuals come out and condemn Christianity and Judaism as well. This man's (and others) attack on Islam appears to be the same kind of thing.

Since Eboo writes about Islam and Muslims, a bunch possibly of homosexuals are out there to attack him and his religion.

This bunch professes that homosexuality is not a choice. That is a bunch of balony. It is a choice, it can be controlled and abstained.

Moody,
There is a fundamental problem with all Muslims and to put it in perspective in Islam; sex. There is too much emphasis put on the sexuality of humans. If Muslims could only come to terms with the human body it would take away 80% of Islam’s problems. Any practicing Muslim will first home in on the sex crimes and will direct all societies problems to the woman’s clothes and how much of her body must be allowed to be seen. On this very page to the right I see the beautiful body of Jillian Michaels, to all Muslims and to Islam this is Kufar or najiz, or dirty. To them this is the cause of degradation of society, a woman’s body; therefore they cover and hide the female. In the West Muslims have to power to cage their own women but want more rights to one day cage ALL the women and make all women feel ashamed of their sexuality and bodies.

Every conversation and discussion with a Muslim will inevitably lead to sex. All of the world’s problems in the Muslim mind begin and end with the woman’s sexuality. Take away the woman and the Jew from this world and Islam has nothing left, it will disintegrate by self immolation t they are good at that anyway.
Ask any Muslim politician or "scholar" and he/she will tell you that all societies problems are below the belt. If one reads Moody’s posts much is dedicated to Hijaab, homosexuality, criminals, woman’s rights and then his solution is Sharia for the world.

All Sharia has to offer is to hide the woman, stone her publicly if she is caught having sex, public display of government anger like lashing, stoning, beheading, hanging, cutting off limbs. Then there are those awful unequal inheritance laws as well as those lopsided laws that favor the Muslim. To all Muslims of the world the only problem this world has is naked women and that too the naked western woman. They are not concerned about the naked women in Africa ... wonder why that is? What is the hang-up with the naked white woman?

I always wanted to do an experiment, lock 30 Mullahs in a room and show them porn movies for 30-hours straight. Let them out for a short break and do this drill for 2 years. I wonder if they would drop sex from their world problem agenda and leave the woman and her naked body out of world problems, concentrate only on the Jew and Palestine.

GHYSLAINE ROC:
Shabat Shalom!
N.B. As a matter of fact, I was wrong to say that the HIJAAB is banned in all Western institutions. When I saw the mistake, it was too late to correct it. The UK (I do not know of the others) allows the HIJAAB in certain schools, in certain work places, in some government employment, national and regional, and in other places, BUT on the condition that Muslims COLLABORATE with the government on issues like Homosexuality, Abortion, the “War on Terror”, and so on.

However, there is something quite funny about Western democracy. France bans the HIJAAB and religious education in all public schools, but grants Wednesday afternoon free in all public schools in order to allow the teaching of the Catholic religion!!!!!!! Some French doctors would even refuse to see patients wearing the HIJAAB! The ban is even sign posted in their surgeries! France even grants public holidays for all Christian Holy Days or Holy Weeks!!!!!!!
When Christians were wearing a crucifix, or a medallion of the “Virgin Mary”, and Jews a Kippa, a Star “of David” (of Rothschild), NOBODY found anything wrong. Only when Muslims wanted just to be Muslims, all hell broke loose!
Nicolas Sarkozy, the Christian who did not know he was Jewish (just like Madeleine Albright and John Kerry), is now telling “France's Jewish community that every 10-year-old schoolchild should be "entrusted with the memory of a French child victim of the Holocaust."”
I am talking here of the uncorrupted Commandments of the Lord. However, I do not think the Lord ever commanded the faithful to murder Palestinians, to head the prostitution racket, to fornicate, to pass laws in favour of abortion, to promote homosexuality and paedophilia, to indulge in usury, to starve and torture innocent people, to bulldoze their houses with the occupiers in them, to uproot olive trees, to bomb people and places and blame it on innocent people, to institutionalise racism, to steal other people’s lands, resources, monopolise all essential commodities, and so on.
The Tallit is a very good thing if it does make the faithful “look at it and recall all the commandments of the Lord and observe them”.
Ghyslaine ROC
SaGHYSLAINE ROC:

Dear Ruth
Shalom ‘Aleikhem!
I am aware of many of the Commandments of the Lord. If the Jewish person could observe even the Decalogue (there are numerous other Commandments), this would make him or her the best of human beings.
The Muslim woman in contrast does not wear her “prayer shawl” in the same manner. Her “prayer shawl” or HIJAAB serves both as a sign of respect before the Lord as well as to make her more decent in appearance. She wears it in public, when travelling and on all occasions. Unfortunately, the nuclear West says it is threatened (scared, terrorised…!) by this “religious ostentation” and had it banned in all public institutions, a sign of Western Liberty (Freedom). The HIJAAB has become a matter for the State to interfere in the free practice of Islam, in particular in France, the country of so-called Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité!
Jews, Christians and Muslims have worn the HIJAAB for centuries, but today only Muslims are demonised for this practice. When I walk into a French Catholic Church, so-called white Catholics (natives) are bare headed whilst Portuguese, Spanish, Mauritian, and Polish women always attend church with their head covered!
“When a woman my age puts on a tallit, it is a statement, tinged with ostentation: “I am Woman, Watch me Pray.” Ruth Marcus
When I put on my HIJAAB in public, I am telling the whole world I am a woman with a mind, not a merchandise, and it is a clear statement of my religious identity. I am a woman, talk to my intellect and do not pay attention to my physical “beauty”!
May The God Who made us all (and not only the Chosen People!) bless you and your family, Ruth!
Ghyslaine ROC
Friday 15th February 6008
turday 16 February 6008

ALL KIND OF POSSIBLE QUESTIONS ASKED BY NON MUSLIMS ARE ANSWERED AT BELOW WEB SITE:

http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm

A. Kafir said,
"and the whole notion of why the kafirs moved away from cruel punishments "

And the reason is because the whole west full of kafirs are CRUEL, KILLING, RAPING, BRUTALIZING AND BULLING CRIMINALS so much lost in there internal out of control raping, molesting, incesting, street violence, racism, denying of womens ACTUAL RIGHTS, marketing and sexually exploiting there whole women race, kids and childern.
And externally destroying, genociding other nations and countries.

THEREFORE IN REALITY "THEY DON'T WANT ANY REAL PUNISHMENT IN THERE WAY AS A DETERRENCE" TO THERE BARBARIC CONTINUOUS WORLD WIDE ON SLOT.
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TO MAKE SURE OF IT THEY ARE TRYING TO MUNIPULATE ALL THE LAW GOVERNING INSTITUTES IN THE FAVOR TO THERE BARBARIC INTENTIONS.

Note: Above reply is not applied to common peace loving civilians of any race or creed.

I apologize about my "crucifixion" statement.
I was mistaken.

BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE REQUIRED BALANCE OF JUSTICE.

May be A. Kafir "Won't Mind" always be happy and celebrating and LET GO ANY BODY who rapes his mother, daughter or wife???

OR

Molest in the name of preaching OR kill his son?

By the way A. Kafir is very consistant in lying & twisting. IS IT YOUR FIRST OR SECOND NATURE??

About stoning of Adulterours and lashing of fornicators, it is comprehesively discussed on these blogs so many times and explained in Sharia law very clearly.

Mainly:

- 4 witnesses required (Which is almost imposible & not required in case if woman is raped)
- Or themselves they confess to get the punishment and not forcefully, for immediate reward in hereafter, as they leave this world sinless like a baby paying the price, saved from end less bad return and getting the endless goodness.
- Or if no witness and no confession, Allah is Most Forgiving if they repent and don't repeat the sin.

All '?' question marks means YOU (A. Kafir & All shallow cases) are not exempted from ANSWERING.

"AND DARE TO -i- ANSWER, -ii-AGREE OR
-iii-DISAGREE ON EVERY SINGLE POINT WHICH IS UNDER DISCUSSION BEFORE JUMPING TO ALL OTHER SO MANY STUPID TWISTED MINDED QUESTIONS!"

Every Muslim here beleive it, other wise it is senseless JUST SHOUTING AND ARGUING like stupid fools!!!

And thats why you can see all over the blogs that ONLY MUSLIMS ARE COUNTER ANSWERING unlike ALL others!!

And there is TOTAL SILENCE against questions raised by Muslims, like when it comes to there turn of question, Muslims found it like TALKING TO GHOSTS???

The Kafirs really should read Moody's answer to my question.

No muslim can ever ever say that cutting of limbs is barbaric, because Allah himself ordered it. Hence it will always be justified and the example is to show that it is a real deterrence, and the whole notion of why the kafirs moved away from cruel punishments as deterrence is lost on the muslim world for as long as the Quran is source of law.

Stoning of women? Moody does not mention.

But he tries to justify blood money, and does not mention the egregious evil that is for the muslim society. The rich kill with impunity and then force the poor's family to accept blood money.

Moody, do you want to tell the kafirs here as to why the blood money for a Kafir man is half that of a muslim man, and one eithth for a kafir woman? Why is the life of a kafir woman so cheap when it comes to setting the price of blood money?

Moody,
You are an okay guy. You do not know your islam. Most muslims do not. Crucifixion is not allowed in Islam?

Allah says in Quran 5:33

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YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

Moody, why does your Allah tell that humans should be crucified, an excruciatingly painful death, a truly savage punishment?