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Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,

Muslims as with other "religionists" create problems for themselves because they all deal from a "flawed deck".

e.g. Islam

Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven,warmongering, hallucinating Arab, also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the assassination of Bhutto, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.

And who funds these acts of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

i say "understand", you say "standunder".

are these satanic thunders for heaven's sake!

while i speak with oxygene of this mountain, and of this land, there comes rain with sulphuric acid, in this land of hydrogen and sulphure, of Britain Vatican Greece Russia and Israel!

is there any relation with Mitt Romney of John McCAin?

1. dunder\dun"der\ , n. [cf. sp. redundar to overflow.] the lees or dregs of cane juice, used in the distillation of rum. [west indies] the use of dunder in the making of rum answers the purpose of yeast in the fermentation of flour. edwards.
2. The lees or dregs of cane juice, used in the distillation of rum.
3. Insensible; unfeeling.
4. Not keen in edge or point; lacking sharpness; blunt.
5. Not bright or clear to the eye; wanting in liveliness of color or luster; not vivid; obscure; dim; as, a dull fire or lamp; a dull red or yellow; a dull mirror.
6. Heavy; gross; cloggy; insensible; spiritless; lifeless; inert.
7. Furnishing little delight, spirit, or variety; uninteresting; tedious; cheerless; gloomy; melancholy; depressing; as, a dull story or sermon; a dull occupation or period; hence, cloudy; overcast; as, a dull day.

and then Russia was envious or measuresome for this Kuran application of Israel and USA in Anadolu! did any body explain this to Russia Iran or Greece? Israel and USA increased Kuran and ottomans, and Russia UK Vatican Armenia kicked all! what shall i do!

i want to be simple while you are where you are!

when shall you be multilingual and multitext, why do you insist on one, while you communicate not, while you aggree on a user interface not, while you educate each other not?

can you exclude Macintosh from internet? and now architectures run together. but before they did not. why dont you aggree on at least HTML codes?

THE BOOKS AND MOVIES WERE ALREADY ON THE BOOKSTORES, MARKETS, TELEVISIONS, RADIOS, INTERNET, NEWSPAPERS! they didnt say this is anti-vatican, this is anti-israel, this is anti-turk, this is anti-USA! all were in NATIONAL TV too!

what is wind? volute? evolution? water? Hebrew? chinese? summerian? japanese? American? persian? what is wind? all can do with wind, because magnetics is the wind, love, we are magnetics.

in the clip, she is the Queen of Beauty, a few years ago, and it reminds Spartans 300.

last night, stones were thrown to me in a wind, i turned my back and i had a navy indigo coat and stones just touched. then stones from the top of the mountain flowed with tough noise. i was on a bridge.

http://www.trt.net.tr/23nisan/senliktanitim.aspx?dil=eng

when shall i have my choice for the place to live, in stead of translating and transliterating between sentences and applications amongst nations of authority and ownership?

http://www. readthe quran.org/ONLINE/ ENGLISH1/023.html

verse 54,

if You realize that muslims are treated according to Kuran, in international cases, either within law or for justice,

if you realize that technology ware computers warcraft mobile phones industry are given to Turkey,

and prime Minister of Turkey calls families to make three children, Prime Minister knows who offered this

how would you approach to Turkey?

is Turkey, scared? in hell? jailed? punished? sentenced? or is Williams Bush a muslim? or is there an authority in USA or Israel that has plugged Quran into Law or Wall?

http://www.trt.net.tr/23nisan/trtanitim.aspx?dil=eng

would You come to this 23 April festival for Children after St George, announced by Ataturk, sponsored by Turk Telekom sold to Jordan, family of Muhammed, in war with Israel?

Antalya is the city of St Nicholas, before Nicaea Bursa.

in the other clip for the festival, the bombardment section is from British records, in the first world war.

what a gracious post gaby- thank you-
it is really because i assume your higher nature is so easily appealed to-

i wish i could post more on self-critical analysis of the problems muslims create for themselves-
but when i did so- my responses are met with such incredulity (at not fitting into the stereotype)
i limited my own choices to-
i can either
*respond in kind with negativity-

*any response that contains a critique of islam, in any way- or dissasociation with extremism-
brings out the wolves-
i tried at first to do so- but it only added fuel to the fire- and triumphant "aha! so you ADMIT islam is a violent/hate-filled religion etc etc eventhough i have never made any such point-

so- ive settled here on just responding with positive expressions of islam- for those for whom this may be their only exposure to such a view-

and i am of the opinion that all are very aware of what is wrong with humanity-
so i try to think of resolutions-

sometimes with small success- usually not.
sadly, my experiences here have taught me not to give ammunition to those with unkind intentions-

enough of that!

on a lighter, more gynocentric note-

since jihadist mentioned ginger- (my mom was a virginia, and we called her ginger sometimes)

"Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, except backwards and in high heels"

Often incorrectly attributed to Faith Whittlesey, Ann Richards (who said it in a 1988 speech), or to Ms. Rogers herself, but the official Ginger Rogers website attributes it to Thaves.

Bob Thaves (5 October 1924 – 1 August 2006) was a cartoonist known for his comic strip "Frank and Ernest".

It first appeared in a 1982 Frank and Ernest comic as;
"Sure he was great, but don't forget that Ginger Rogers did everything he did, backwards... and in high heels."

ive always loved that reference-

Oh there "Reality Challenged" and Obfuscating Jihadist,

Still trying to distract the world from the errors and flaws of Islam with "yakety-yak" about the flawed pope and honest Dutch reviews about sexist and racist Islam.

Once again for your perusal, the first four flaws and errors of Islam:

Again, the larger issues are the flaws in all religions. Quoting single passages from the hallucination and myth-based koran has no meaning with respect to the major flaws and errors of Islam. Once again since you still have problems coming to grips with these errors:

1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies".

2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues.

And accusing someone of spreading hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

Hello Ms. Daisy Khan,

Thanks for your essay here.

I have also just read your piece on the Pope and baptism of a former Muslim during the Good Friday-Easter weekend too here.

I also spied news about Mr. Geert Wilder here and there - on TVs in hotel rooms, in airline lounges, and I just can't resist.....

I don't suppose too many fellows who come to On Faith read Ms. Rosalind Miles' "The Women's History of the World", retitled, "Who Cooked the Last Supper?" in subsequent editions. A most entertaining read.

We all know that women comprise some 50% of the world's population plus or minus a few percentage points here and there, but even the United Nations requested all countries to maintain some 30% of women in all spheres, including politics, academia, business etc. Of course, women are some over 90% of tea ladies and men some 90% of CEOs.

And back to the Pope and Mr. Geert Wilder, that Dutch politician who is now a film-maker with his movie, "Fitna", we surely must understand them and try not to be racist nor sexist. After all, both the Pope and Mr. Wilder are blondes and males.

As you and I are brunettes, we must show some understanding for the plight of blondes. Blondes are an increasing minority among an increasing minority, the Caucasians. And a much misunderstood one too, with phrases such as "bottle blondes", "dumb blondes", ditsy blondes" and "blondes have more fun" appended to them.

Surely we must understand that blondes, especially male blondes such as the Pope and Mr. Wilder are intent to prove all stereotyping on them as a minority within a minority are wrong, and they can be serious? No one chose to be born blonde, except for some who chose by means of the bottle to hide their greying hair and such.

Hence, we women who are brunettes, who have tans to die for, should not discriminate or hold against the Pope or Mr. Wilder for what they say and do just because they are blondes and males.

There, are, as we already know, many blondes before who tried to prove their seriousness on matters of free speech related to religion and racism and sexism. As proven by the Danish cartoons, the Dutch movies, the German opera etc. male blondes prove that blondes are not whom people think they are.

Mr. Wilder is a knight in shining armour endeavouring to save Europe from the oppression of Islam which he characterised as Nazism, and the continent from being deluged by the tanned and brunette Islamo-nazis.

The Pope has repented and is still atoning for
being a member of Nazi youth during his salad days in trying to save all our souls now through baptism and salvation throught Christ, which alas, won't wash away our brunette hair (if there are "bottle" brunettes) and tanned skin (it's not Coppertone-created).

Truly. Really. We should never discriminate against male blondes. They are very serious, very sober, very didactic, very intent to made substantive contributions to Western Judeo-Christian civilisation and society.

Blondes are a misunderstood minority within a racial minority.

I am supportive of the American Society for Muslim Advancement which you helmed as Executive Director.

I am also for the formation of a Western Society for the Advancement of Blonde Males.

After all, the only blondes I admire are female ones - Greta Garbo, Carole Lombards, Grace Kelly, Ginger Rogers, Gloria Steinem.... and that is sexist for both religious and secular reasons.

And yes, so yes, - “O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! The noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct…” (49:13)

Salam, thanks and best regards

"J"

Victoria,

"i recognize in you, gaby, my own outrage at injustice and dominance politics- and my own desire for mutual respct among all people-
i hope you recgnize this in me also.
peace"

I do, and when I seem to do otherwise, please forgive me. I try very hard to evaluate each human by their worth individually...

Please never think that I am attacking you personally, rather I attack the religions who make people into monsters. I am not saying that Islam has more monsters than Christianity, or Hinduism, or....(fill in the blanks).

The problem is that my perspective of Islam is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Muslims take offense too easily in my humble opinion. Geez, if I started a mass riot, death threats, or murdered someone because I felt mistreated or misunderstood, I'd be the only person alive.

The monstrosities that have been perpetuated in the name of Islam (just in the last 10 years) are enough to turn any decent human being off. That is something that moderate Muslims like yourself need to address, instead of constantly telling us how good your faith is.

Let me give you an example that affects my personally. I talked to my Mom in Germany today. She went to celebrate (not religiously, more secularly) Easter with my youngest brother who married a devout catholic and they have 2-year old daughter. My sister-in-law, her parents, and her sister went to church at 5 a.m. in the morning to have their breakfast blessed by the priest. My sister-in-law later stated that she saw many children presentat the service (hint, hint) to her husband who is not catholic. Her brother, who abhors the church, said that those kids weren't there of there own free will, but were dragged theere by their overzealous parents. I wholeheartedly agree.

The reason I am telling you this, is that I think she is the equivalent of an over the top Christian to the over the top Muslims who try to make everybody like them.

I don't know if this makes sense, but it is an issue that is close to my heart.

Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,

Again, the larger issues are the flaws in all religions. Quoting single passages from the hallucination and myth-based koran has no meaning with respect to the major flaws and errors of Islam. Once again since you still have problems coming to grips with these errors:

1. Belief in "pretty/ugly wingie thingies".

2. Belief that an hallucinating, illiterate Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the hot "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female words and resultant laws now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life. And Shiites think the same way about Sunnis.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7, 800 year-old blood feud between Sunnis and Shiites gives significant credence that greed, hate, suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed.
These are tough issues.

And accusing someone of spreading hate and lies does not work when these "someones" are simply listing the facts. If you have counter points about your beliefs then list them. Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

i hope gaby can see herself in me, and i'm trying to see myself in othes- this question has elicited alot fo the best responses from th panelists here-
further proof that it is an issue to be explored in depth

gaby commented-


"Yes, all mankind is from Adam and Eve and therefore no one has superiority over another...EXCEP by piety and good action."(quote)

In essence that means as long as you are Muslim you can be whatever color or nationality you are without superiority of one over another.

However, when you are not a Muslim there is no then you are of a lower class."

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why would you reduce all mankind to mean only muslims?

the only way your reasoning could make sense is if we make the assumption that only muslims are capable of piety and good action-

i cannot imagine you meant to conclude that.

this excerpt from the last sermon, gives superiority to piety and good action-

here, in the qur'an- that idea is related-

" *{O People of the Book! Let us rally to a common formula to be binding on both us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God...}* (Aal `Imran 3:64)"

people of the book refers to christians and jews-

there is also this all inclusive statement-

"*{O people, We have created you from a male and a female and made you into races and tribes so that you may know each other. Indeed the noblest of you in the sight of God are those who are the most pious among you. And Allah knows every thing and is aware of every thing.}* (Al-Hujurat 49:13)"

here no distinction is made-
and piety, again, is the superior criteria.

asim posted some excellent passages-

go back and read them- if you do- you will find that all mankind is included-

here's a saying of the Prophet(pbuh)

"The Prophet(pbuh) said:” You are all the off spring of Adam and Adam is made up of clay.” And he also said:” People are of two kinds: your brother in faith or your brother in humanity.”

it doesnt get any clearer than that, does it?

there are many many places where can fidn find text supproting inclusion, egalitarianism-

this is one of the main concepts of islam that i love so much-

people seem to get confused because there certainly ARE mnay times- distinctions made between the pious and those whose ACTIONS are superior- to those who neglect or actively oppose such piety-

we can have a discussion about whether good people and bad people are equal-(our entire system of justice does just that) but in the sight of Allah- they are not.

ms khan wisely opined-
"Discrimination and the assertion of dominance arise when I cannot recognize myself in you."

it is a struggle, to recognize ourselves in others-

i recognize in you, gaby, my own outrage at injustice and dominance politics- and my own desire for mutual respct among all people-
i hope you recgnize this in me also.
peace

Sexism in Islam- The Reality

a) Its operating manual, the koran, reeks with the stench of sexism just ask Hirsi Ali.

b) A portion of the fourth major flaw of Islam-

" Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed."

What to do about it?????

"Deflaw the koran!!!!"

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Ok, how about all of youse stop arguing about who's more inclusive and tolerant and ..cut it out with the intolerance? :)

Usama says:
“while Islam is all inclusive and recognizes the two(religions of Christianity and Judaism) in their original unaltered forms.”

Islam as all inclusive? In a moment we will see how much. Let us discuss recognition bit first.
Islam “recognizes the two (religions of Christianity and Judaism)) in their original unaltered form” simply means Muslims do not “recognize” these two religions. Why?, Because they were ”altered”. That much for objectivity and unbiased recognition and respect.
Next is the all inclusive attribute of Islam. Yes! Just like that.

Let us start with equality between genders in Islam.

1. A woman is entitled to no more than a man, but a man can have in theory infinite numbers; four wives and the rest concubine.
2’ A woman testimony when accepted, and often more than not it is not accepted, counts for half that of a man.
3.A woman’s inheritance is equal to have that of her brother.
4. A woman cannot divorce her husband but he can divorce her by simply uttering a sentence in front of two witnesses.
The list goes on and on and on as listed in the following link

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes1.html ( refer to women)

This is simply the type of gender equality among Muslims, according to their understanding of it. Non-Muslims, whom they label as infidels (Kuffar), are not included in this definition of equality and all-inclusiveness. There are yet other definitions for those. Refer to Umar Pact for tolerance of non-Muslim
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-kills-pact-of-umar.htm
and the next about the “love” of the other..
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes1.html (refer to war)

Victoria,

I think you missed it and Ibrahim is right:

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not therefore do injustice to yourselves."

Yes, all mankind is from Adam and Eve and therefore no one has superiority over another...EXCEP by piety and good action.

In essence that means as long as you are Muslim you can be whatever color or nationality you are without superiority of one over another.

However, when you are not a Muslim there is no then you are of a lower class.

Victoria says-

"as with any support for the many accusations of lying-

so far-
silence-

so, the allegations can be dismissed-"

Victor reples-

SUO SIBI GLADIO HUNC JUGULO

Victoria- want to tell everyone again what a peace-lover al-Qaradawi is? Or that the meaning of Islam is peace and not surrender? I could go on..

Get some help.

Mr. Qaradawi (spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood) has issued a Fatwa called ”El-amalijat al-istishadiya a’zam suwar al-jihad” (Suicide operations are the highest form for Jihad). The Fatwa claims that suicide operations are: a) a defense of Islamic territory and religion; b) Jihad in honor of Allah; c) not terrorism but heroic acts; and d) not by any means suicide, but as far removed from suicide as conceivable. The Fatwa was issued 3 October 2001 and can be found in Arabic on Mr. Qaradawi’s home pages.

www.qaradawi.net

The injunction(it is skeptical if it was said or not) is not over Quran.
The injunction doesnt make the versus of Book(there is only and only one Book) invalid.

18.94 says Gog and Magog,Chinese people(including Japaneses,Koreans and all Yellow peoples) are dangerous.

5.13 says *We cursed them(Jewish people)*

According to islam,Trinity(although islam doesnt know what it is) means Idolatory and cursed.

Hindus are being mocked by many muslims saying *the worshippers to Cow*

Dear posters and readers,islam curses non-muslims and infidels.

One Poster writes,*islam recognises the two in their original unaltered forms*
Dont Jewish people know their religion of 4000 years ???
After 2500 years from Abraham(Azar was his servent,not his father and you dont know his father's name),it was said *No,you dont know your religion*
Which Logic ??
Which Reason ??
You dont know what Trinity is.
You dont know who was Abraham's dad(he was Terah) and you say *two equals one* and mention *islam is absolute correct*

Sexism in Islam- The Reality

a) Its operating manual, the koran, reeks with the stench of sexism just ask Hirsi Ali.

b) A portion of the fourth major flaw of Islam-

" Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of rape, adultery, lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of hatred, anger and greed."

When Daisy says-

As the Prophet Muhammad boldly declared, “All human beings are equal like the teeth of a comb. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non Arab, of a non-Arab over an Arab, of a white man over a black man or of a male over a female. The only merit in God’s estimation is righteousness.”

She mistates and adds to the words of Muhammed.

The quote is

The Prophet (pbuh) put it in these words: “All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action.”

On the the unity and diversity of mankind:Any objective student of Islam, the Quran and the Sunnah, will come to the conclusion that Islam is all inclusive to the extent that there is hardly any "We" and "They" as the following verses shows which is a pattern characterstic of the Quran, which addresses MANKIND not Muslims:

Al Baqarah,2: 213,:” Mankind was one single nation (Ummah : Community), and Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them he sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in maters wherein they differed; but the people of the book, after clear signs came to them, did not differ among themselves, except through selfish contumacy.”

Al Nisa,4:1,:” O mankind (AL NAS) reverence your Lord, who created you from a single person. Created of like nature, his mate and from them twain scattered (like seeds), Countless men and women- fear Allah, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights) and (reverence) the wombs that bore you: for Allah ever watches over you.” Wombs mean your parents especially your mothers and your closest kin and family and the word is a derivative from Rahma which means mercy-indicating that mercy should prevail amongst the same family and beyond.

Yunis, 10: 19,:” Mankind was but one nation, but differed (later). Had it not been for a word that went forth before from thy Lord, their differences would have been settled between them.”

The Prophet also said:” O mankind your father is one and the same-meaning Adam,” and “Your God is one-meaning Allah,” and unity in faith.

Al Anbiya, 21: 92,:” Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood (humanity), and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve me–and no other.”

Al Mu’minun, 23:52,:” And verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood (humanity). And I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear me–and no other.” “Fear Me” means an invitation to being deeply aware of me in piety.

Al Asara,17:70, :” We have honoured the sons of Adam.” Clearly this applies to all mankind, Muslims and non Muslims alike.

The Prophet said:” You are all the off spring of Adam and Adam is made up of clay.” And he also said:” People are of two kinds: your brother in faith or your brother in humanity.”

Upon appointing a governor of Egypt, the fourth Caliph Ali instructed him to be just and kind to the people there and that they were of two kinds:” Your brothers in faith-Muslims-and your brothers in humanity, the Coptic Christians.”أنظر نهج ألبلاغة

It is noteworthy that Islam negates clannishness and racial affiliation and treats the faith of Abraham as “Islam” and the subsequent Prophets such as Moses and Jesus as equals with its own prophet without distinction as Muslims and it distances itself from personality cults such as naming a revealed faith after a person or a tribe-Judah or Judaism-or after a Prophet, Christ and Christianity; rather, Islam takes its name from its very central meaning: the act of submission to the one and only God, Allah, that is Islam itself.

The Quran continues to emphasize this all inclusive attitude throughout, that Islam is revealed to all mankind, that it is based on the belief in the one and only God, in the one message and in the one humanity:

Al Baqarah, 2:163:” And your God is One God: there is no God but he, the most gracious, most merciful.” “Your” is an address to mankind, Al Nas,الناس -essentially those humans who have not yet embraced Islam. When some of mankind does not embrace Islam it does not take away, undermine or compromise their humanity-but when they embrace Islam it fulfils that humanity.

Ali Imran, 3:84,:”Say:” We believe in Allah,and what he has revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes and in (the books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our well –in Islam.” This means that Islam was the religion of Adam, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and all prophets of God, because they all submitted to Allah’s well and were therefore all Muslims.

In his last sermon-Farwell HAjj:naturally the Prophet addressed the Muslim faithful who knew well the all inclusive attitude of theri faith which came to all mankind and was not necessary for the Prophet to repeat what they all already knew-evident by his saying to them:"Today I have completed you religion for you..."

On the other hand what about other faiths:Judaism is all inclusive "the choosen people" and Christianity, you can only be saved if you believe that Jesus is the son of god!!! And both faiths consider ISlam and Muslims "heathen" while Islam is all inclusive and recognises the two in their original unaltered forms.

On the the unity and diversity of mankind:Any objective studen of Islam, the Quran and the Sunnah, will come to the conclusion that Islam is all inclusive to the extent that there is hardly any "we" and "They" as the following shows which is a pattern characterstic of the Quran:

Al Baqarah,2: 213,:” Mankind was one single nation (Ummah : Community), and Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them he sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in maters wherein they differed; but the people of the book, after clear signs came to them, did not differ among themselves, except through selfish contumacy.”

Al Nisa,4:1,:” O mankind (AL NAS) reverence your Lord, who created you from a single person. Created of like nature, his mate and from them twain scattered (like seeds), Countless men and women- fear Allah, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights) and (reverence) the wombs that bore you: for Allah ever watches over you.” Wombs mean your parents especially your mothers and your closest kin and family and the word is a derivative from Rahma which means mercy-indicating that mercy should prevail amongst the same family and beyond.

Yunis, 10: 19,:” Mankind was but one nation, but differed (later). Had it not been for a word that went forth before from thy Lord, their differences would have been settled between them.”

The Prophet also said:” O mankind your father is one and the same-meaning Adam,” and “Your God is one-meaning Allah,” and unity in faith.

Al Anbiya, 21: 92,:” Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood (humanity), and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve me–and no other.”

Al Mu’minun, 23:52,:” And verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood (humanity). And I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear me–and no other.” “Fear Me” means an invitation to being deeply aware of me in piety.

Al Asara,17:70, :” We have honoured the sons of Adam.” Clearly this applies to all mankind, Muslims and non Muslims alike.

The Prophet said:” You are all the off spring of Adam and Adam is made up of clay.” And he also said:” People are of two kinds: your brother in faith or your brother in humanity.”

Upon appointing a governor of Egypt, the fourth Caliph Ali instructed him to be just and kind to the people there and that they were of two kinds:” Your brothers in faith-Muslims-and your brothers in humanity, the Coptic Christians.”أنظر نهج ألبلاغة

It is noteworthy that Islam negates clannishness and racial affiliation and treats the faith of Abraham as “Islam” and the subsequent Prophets such as Moses and Jesus as equals with its own prophet without distinction as Muslims and it distances itself from personality cults such as naming a revealed faith after a person or a tribe-Judah or Judaism-or after a Prophet, Christ and Christianity; rather, Islam takes its name from its very central meaning: the act of submission to the one and only God, Allah, that is Islam itself.

The Quran continues to emphasize this all inclusive attitude throughout, that Islam is revealed to all mankind, that it is based on the belief in the one and only God, in the one message and in the one humanity:

Al Baqarah, 2:163:” And your God is One God: there is no God but he, the most gracious, most merciful.” “Your” is an address to mankind, Al Nas,الناس -essentially those humans who have not yet embraced Islam. When some of mankind does not embrace Islam it does not take away, undermine or compromise their humanity-but when they embrace Islam it fulfils that humanity.

Ali Imran, 3:84,:”Say:” We believe in Allah,and what he has revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes and in (the books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our well –in Islam.” This means that Islam was the religion of Adam, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and all prophets of God, because they all submitted to Allah’s well and were therefore all Muslims.

In his last sermon-Farwell HAjj:naturally the Prophet addressed the Muslim faithful who knew well the all inclusive attitude of theri faith which came to all mankind and was not necessary for the Prophet to repeat what they all already knew-evident by his saying to them:"Today I have completed you religion for you..."

On the other hand what about other faiths:Judaism is all inclusive "the choosen people" and Christianity, you can only be saved if you believe that Jesus is the son of god!!! And both faiths consider ISlam and Muslims "heathen" while Islam is all inclusive and recognises the two in their original unaltered forms.

Here is:

"The Farewell Address of the holy Prophet Muhammad"

This is clearly concerning-

"Equality of all believers without distinction of race orders. He stated: “Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.”

Nothing declaring equality of muslim and kuffar or men and women. Read for yourself:

http://muslim-canada.org/farewell.htm

thanks sister for reminding of the divine ideal we are aspiring to-

if only we made that effort with regards to each other vigorously- this question would never even be asked---

ibrahim-
how did you misunderstand this to mean muslims only?

"All MANKIND is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab;..."

all mankind-

i guess you missed it- also- the same speech you posted from declares that men and women are partners-

Galatians 3.28 say so,but

Mark 16.16 says *Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved*
1.Timothy 6 supports slavery.

49.13 *The noblest of you is the best in conduct * means *best in islam/best in submission*,not non-muslim.
Besides,4.34 says *...Allah hath made the one of them to EXCEL the other*
The muslim is superior over infidels.Non-muslims,unbelievers (85 percent of world population) can not go to Muslim Paradise(Bliss Garden of Allah),for example,Hindus from Kashmir can not go to Paradise(even they dont dream).

Man excels woman;
-Man can take four women and whenever he likes he says *I divorce you*,but woman has no such a right.
-Two women equals one man,because she errs but he doesnt(woman is deficient in intelligence and faith)
-Man can scourge woman.
-Son excels daughter.Two daughters makes one Son.

Ms. Khan:
You say:

As the Prophet Muhammad boldly declared:

“All human beings are equal like the teeth of a comb. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non Arab, of a non-Arab over an Arab, of a white man over a black man or of a male over a female. The only merit in God’s estimation is righteousness.”

I don’t know where you came up with the above quote. Below is an excerpt of Mohammad’s farewell address.

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not therefore do injustice to yourselves. Remember one day you will meet Allah and answer your deeds. So beware: do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.”

There was no mention of equality between the genders, or between Muslims and Kuffar(non-Muslims). There were exhortation for Muslims to respect the property of other Muslims and not do injustice to their coreligionists.

The best religion involves changing one's self for the better. Attempting to change the world for the better leaves you sorely tempted by authoritarianism.

Galatians 3:28 says that “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

Absolutely. Recently, I heard someone say, "you are neither black nor white, union nor open shopper, male nor female, for you are all one in the Democrat party." Or was that the Republican party? Maybe it was an evangelical minister speaking?

I wouldn't be surprised to find people, "became divided into sects, each rejoicing in their own ideas. So leave them in their ignorance for a time." Yeah, it's the "sub prime" economy thats rousing them from their sleep.

http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul says the Devil Lucifer makes people do that. And, it comes straight from most sacred scriptures, void "in their own ideas."

I'll wager that a similar case can be made for the Qur'an. There's a built in "tell on self" for all sacred scriptures no doubt. Maybe God won't allow the lie to stand forever? At least we can say the Bible has the truth. About being a lie that is.

Did you notice how many metaphors, "like teeth of a comb" sacred scriptures use to make their points. Does the Qur'an say anything about loving one's enemies? I mean other than loving them to death?

Don't you think sacred scriptures are a sorry lot of places to find guidance for how one should treat one's fellow persons? Is religion the solution or the problem.

Remember Allah's words, "became divided into sects." Sects is just another word for faiths while faith is just another word for religion.

It's Devil that divides and conquers while God unites, by definition of Devil and God. Allah must not be God after all? But there is a God that is watching. Everyone. And being ignored, officially.

I tried to find a reference for:

As the Prophet Muhammad boldly declared, “All human beings are equal like the teeth of a comb. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non Arab, of a non-Arab over an Arab, of a white man over a black man or of a male over a female. The only merit in God’s estimation is righteousness.”

This is what I find:

“The believers are but a single brotherhood” (Al-Qur'an 49:9)

The Prophet of Islam (salla Allahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) has said:

“All Muslims are equal like the teeth of a comb.”

“In relation to one another, the Muslims are like a building: every unit reinforces and is reinforced by all others.”