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Happy Yuletide,

Our Creator has begun the lengthening of daylight and there isn't a thing Christians, Mormons, Jews or anyone else can do about it. Pagan prayers and offerings will rule as they have from time immemorial.

No amount of Christian, Muslim, or Jewish prayers prevailed over our celebrations last night or the Sun rise this morning.

What fun!! Presents! Santa Claus! Whoops, did we pagans co-opt a Christian word - Saint Nick?? - just a translation of Julenissen? - hmmmm - no matter - Pagan and Christian children world-wide are waiting to hear the jingle bells of Dasher,Dancer, Comet, and the others.

"My apologies...my last statement of my previous post should have read:

>> On the contrary. It will."

It should actually be; On the contrary, it will. "On the contrary" is not a complete sentence.

I suppose that children who are dying of starvation in other countries and die before they receive the word of God will spend eternity in torment? Let's hope, for all of our sakes, that your demented God is not the truth. He certainly doesn't make a good case for himself.

Truth,

Here is a synopsis of the truth and reality of it all:

1. Abraham founder/father of three major religions was probably a mythical character. If he was real, he was at best a combination of at least three men. 1.5 million Conservative Jews and their rabbis have relegated Abraham to the myth pile along with most if not all the OT. http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ConservativeTorah.htm

2. Jesus, the illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter possibly suffering from hallucinations, has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a mamzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). Analyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, On Faith panelists) via the NT and related documents have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hittites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

3. Mohammed, an illiterate, womanizing, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic train bombers in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani koranics, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino koranics.

And who funds these acts of terror? The warmongering, Islamic Shiite, terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

4. Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingy talking flying fictional thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site)

- "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’"
The caste/laborer system and cow worship are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

"However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circumstances of his life.

Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations/embellishments and myths surrounding the founders of said rules of life.

>Too bad the "truth of Scripture" doesn't apply to those who have never received it.

>> On the contrary. It will.

Truth: you sound the way that smug a-hole Cal Thomas looks.

Anonymous, aka JJ:

"Notice: You have not met US (me) half way, now you will be suid in FEDERAL COURT a.s.a.p.! bye parasites!"

First of all, by saying "US" I assume your daemon possessed? I wouldn't be surprised the least bit if that were true. Dude, get a life already. Your acting like my little little 5 year olds best friend. Oh, and I thought I should point out that you spelled "suid" wrong...No one is listening to you, so just leave. Your credit and reputation has been demolished, and you have no place here anymore.

My apologies...my last statement of my previous post should have read:

>> On the contrary. It will.

I thought John Calvin was dead and buried.
Clearly I was mistaken. He has arisen.

>>Some people believe the end of the world is a reason to be nice to people
>>Some believe the end of the world is an excuse to be mean to people.

>>Some say, Dude. Don't count on it.

Some people believe that there will be an end to this current age..the end, or completion, of time that man has been alotted to do things his way. and not the end of the world.

Some people work toward that goal, in preparation for the time when all things will be restored and the world will be at peace..something that mankind is incapable of doing.

It is certainly not a wasted life to prepare ones vision, outlook and desire to see this corrupt and deceived world to be whole once again. That is a life fulfilling in working toward that goal.

>>Too bad the "truth of Scripture" doesn't apply to those who have never received it.

On the contrary. It does.

Dear Truth

What you say is not truth; it is your speculation and opinion, which you are entitled to have. But when you morph your personal speculation into truth for all people, then you are starting a long a very difficult argument that you can never win, no matter how hard you try, nor how lone you live. You are assuming that all people must admit and then bow down to the truth which you proclaim, and that you have discerned through special abilities which you along have, but which other people do not have. But, I very regretfully, and sadly, notify you that you are just a man, a plain old man like everyone else, and your speculations, while unique, are no more verifiable and provable than anyone's elses.

Too bad the "truth of Scripture" doesn't apply to those who have never received it. Your God sure is picky about who he saves. Good thing it's utter nonsense.

"Thankfully, there is a limit on mankinds time"

There you go, with the Neocons, spending the meek's inheritance and trying to justify the mess you know you'll leave behind by pretending it'll go away when you personally aren't around to look at it anymore.

Some people believe the end of the world is a reason to be nice to people
Some believe the end of the world is an excuse to be mean to people.

Some say, Dude. Don't count on it.

It's been said before. And if you don't like how the world is *now,* consider you aren't the first person or political power that's said what you do.

Actually, it's time to lose that nonsense.

Your world is *always* ending. And that's why your lot always leave messes behind.

Our Creator, thru scripture, explains why there is so much religious confusion in the world. The delusion resides in the minds of those who accept error as doctrine and also resides in those who accept their very being as happenstance.

True study of scripture provides the only sane explainations and answers. The world is full of insanity when it comes to understanding where we came from and why we are here and what we should or should not 'believe'.

To this end is where we find ourselves today....Ever learning, but never coming to the true knowledge of why we are here and our purpose for being.

BTW...ones life is squandered by succumbing to the 'wisdom' of the flesh. Which is not wisdom at all..but leads men to death. The symbol of the two trees has been misunderstood and disregared for millenia. This is a major part of the reason for the suffering mankind has brough on himself. In seeing the overall indifference, mass confusion about the subject at hand and coarse rhetoric thrown in here and there on these threads...one can easily surmise that there will be a better world in a future day - as those scriptures, that some scoff at, tell us.

Be assured, that day will never come due to mans understanding.

Truth:

You appear to be under a spell. How easy it is for any individual to say "I have the truth because it is in my scripture." Actually believing in the certainty of that statement is delusional.

Here's hoping you recover before you completely squander the one life you've been given in the vain effort of preparing for a better one.

There is but one God.

Here, as on other threads, there is confusion.

All of it due to the denial of that one, Creator God.

In whose image we are made.

Who directed mankind to not do as the heathen (Christmas celebration).

Who cautioned those who teach to not teach as doctrine the commandments of men (Christmas celebration)

'Holidays' is a variation of 'Holy Days'

..the basic reality of a counterfeit situation that grips our world...in modern Christianity, with other religions, through atheism, etc.

Thankfully, there is a limit on mankinds time. In a generation to come, the knowledge of God will be renewed on the earth..and mankind will be saved from himself.

All in scripture, folks.

If we consider nativity scenes as just more fictional and/or embellished accounts about good people and myths (e.g. Santa Clause and his elves, Gabriel, Moroni et al), "do no harm to such scenes" or to the associated commentary. Even pagans have their fictional accounts to celebrate on their hallowed days of Halloween etc.

from: http://members.tripod.com/~TaraMiller/halloween.html

"Halloween: The Pagan Festival of Samhain

Paganism, and Druidry especially, recognise eight feasts durring the yearly cycle or the Eight Fold Year. These celebrations are based upon a deep and mysterious connection between our individual lives and the source of this planet’s life. Like any other religious ocassion, these Pagan holidays are marked by special observances.

The most popular festival, in ancient times as well as modern Pagan society, is Samhain or Samhuinn, (pronounced Sou’in) the Celtic new year.

Halloween Myths

1) The pumpkin God, Samhain ( pronounced Sam’hane) DOES NOT exist.

2) Pagans DO NOT sacrifice babies or animals on Halloween. The Wiccan Rede states "Do what thou wilst, but harm none."

3) Pagans DO NOT worship the Devil or Satan on Halloween.

4) PAGANS ARE NOT SATANISTS.

These myths have been perpetuated by people who have seen too many horror movies and the Christian idea of horrific and mythical forms of Satanism. "

And contemporary Wiccans note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

"Also, some Wiccans feel that the tradition is offensive to "real witches" for promoting stereotypical caricatures of "wicked witches".[45] However, other Neopagans, perhaps most of them, see it as a harmless holiday in which some of the old traditions are celebrated by the mainstream culture, albeit in a different manner."

Somebody get ahold of Jozvez' Bishop. Maybe he needs some of the same electroshock therapy they use to "cure" gays.

Looks like Josev said it all.

JJ. I know you're just spamming, but the staff here really don't have time to go through everything that trips the obscenity filters, especially as long-winded and hard to read as your stuff usually is. ....if something gets held, go back and watch your language.

Cal, You don't expect me to disagree with, "That culture has exploited Jesus to make money rather than to obey His teachings"? And anyone else with just a pinch of vision.

http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul is what you're agreeing with but I doubt you know it. Money, the big money goes to those leading us to hell from "That culture has exploited Jesus to make money rather than to obey His teachings." The president, Mr Bush says you're all sinners even though Jesus said, "go your way and sin no more." Yep, not doing what Jesus said alright.

What would be the proper observation of the birth of the son of Lucifer? Maybe the world is smarter than you realize? Where are all those "good shepherds" leading their flock? Could that be the slaughter house or are they having lamb chops in hell? Is "To Serve Mankind" what religion is all about. Pastors get served at a higher table in hell.

The Christian Right like to claim their consumer capitalism is divinely-ordained, and that they're the sole ones to credit for the civilization, ...then when the civilization conflates their Jesus and money and material things, just like Christian Right politicians do, ...they blame the secularists and non-Christians for their own behavior.

Yah.

He summed up the temptest-in-a-teapot nature of the 'war on Christmas' pretty well. He hit the nail on the head about a consumer-driven culture exploiting all-things-Jesus to sell goods. But he missed the part about how the culture just before the consumer-driven one exploited all-things-Jesus to wage war on heathens, own slaves, make women second-class-citizens, etc.

Institutional Christianity has a lot of explaining and apologizing to do, but it has this bad case of amnesia....

How incredibly hubristic to expect the world to "properly observe" the alleged birth of your particular deity.

Mr. Thomas, how many births of other deities have you properly observed this year?

"Requiring governments to adhere to this unique expression of who God is would require a "conversion" by the consumer-driven culture."

No, Cal. It would require a complete overhaul of our Constitution.

Cal writes:

"...exploited Jesus to make money rather than to obey His teachings."

Ironic, coming from Cal Thomas, isn't it?

Blah Blah Blah.

Fun fact all Christians should know:

Jesus wasn't born on December 25th.

Thought I'd put that out there.

"God Not Subject to Government Approval"

Neither is non-belief in "God", though Romney and the GOP would have it otherwise.

I agree that God is not subject to government approval but the problem with Cal and his ilk is that they think government is subject to the approval of their own private definition of God.