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Good site! I'll stay reading! Keep improving!

I would agree with Cal's premise, but shouldn't all of our leaders be guided by their faith in decision making to a certain degree?

Religion is the primary source of morality. One would hope our leaders are making moral decisions. You do the math.

The Democrats have problems because they put forth candidates that are not people of faith. They then end up faking it, which only makes them look worse. I would have a problem with any Republican that portrayed themselves that way and was not.

This is an excellent point! I just wish more conservative Christians would recognize it. We need to focus more on God's work and less on politics.

This one I do not have a problem with:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48195

WHAT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THE USE OF THE TERM ISLAMOFASCISM. DROP THE ISLAMO---AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. BELIEVE ME GOOD FOLKS WITH INTENTIONS THAT PAVE THE ROAD TO HELL, THERE ARE PLENTY OF CHISTIOFASCIST RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW FOR YOU TO MARCH AGAINST *ALDOLPH HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN, NOT A MUSLIM* *HELLO* IS ANYONE *home* YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON BUT YOU MUST BE ASLEEP MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. ANN COULTER TALK SOME SENSE INTO THESE PEOPLE OF YOURS!!! THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEMSELVES HURT I KID YOU NOT!!!

Text pulled after uproar over Islam
By Andrea Falkenhagen, Tribune
April 6, 2005
A world history textbook used by seventh-graders at Scottsdale’s Mohave Middle School was pulled from classrooms mid-semester amid growing criticism of the book’s portrayal of Islam.

"I do not want my children trying out Islam, or thinking about becoming a Muslim now, or in the future," she wrote to Baracy on Jan. 25. She did say, however, that she approves of including some information about world religions in history lessons, so long as it is presented factually and briefly."

AND I AM FOOLISH ENOUGH TO THINK YOU WHITE TYRANNTS ARE GOING TO LET THE TRUTH OF YOUR HIDEOUS MIS-TREATMENT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR BE TAUGHT TO YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE ANGELS??? *FAT* CHANCE....YOU LAST AND BEST CHANCE....

Yesterday on Fox News, talk radio host Mike Gallagher said the U.S. government should “round up” actor Matt Damon, “The View” host Joy Behar, and MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann and “put them in a detention camp until this war is over because they’re a bunch of traitors.” GALLAGHER HUH? YOU TOO ARE ON MY LIST NOW. IT IS NOT A LIST YOU REALLY WANT TO BE ON....TRUST ME!!!

Having said that Mr. Thomas, I must say that the dialog has been far too one sided in favor of the so-called Moral Majority for too long. Are you familiar with Kevin Phillips? He wrote a book called American Theocracy not too long ago...less than a year now. In it, he describes what has transpired since the far right because the dominion of the pseudo saints. In order to be fair to Ms. Coulter, she did not create this environment.
Rep. Peter T. King, R-N.Y., told radio talk host Sean Hannity in an interview Monday no American Muslim leaders are cooperating in the war on terror.

It is a law that seems innocuous enough in its title: The "Academic Bill of Rights for Higher Education." And yet when you begin reading the provisions of the bill, you see that one of its express intentions is to muzzle freedom of inquiry on the part of "liberal" professors in the higher education institutions of Ohio. McCarthyism redux. Source http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/28/85410/0152

We have not heard the last from former senator Rick Santorium. I really wanted to work with the good former Senator but he supported legislation that was anti-american. he even opposed the HONORABLE Senator Specter's amendments that would have re-instated habeus corpus in the Military Commissions Act....

Santorum joins think tank
Tuesday, January 09, 2007

By Ann Rodgers, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum has joined a conservative Washington think tank, where he will found and direct a program called "America's Enemies."

The program will study "threats posed to America and the West from a growing array of anti-Western forces that are increasingly casting a shadow over our future and violating religious liberty around the world," according to a statement from the Ethics and Public Policy Center, where he will be a senior fellow.

The center was established 30 years ago to apply moral principles derived from Christianity and Judaism to public policy issues. It is strongly, but not exclusively, associated with conservative Catholic intellectuals. Another of its senior fellows, George Weigel, is best known as the author of the most comprehensive biography of the late Pope John Paul II. Mr. Santorum, who served as a Pennsylvania senator from 1995 until this year, is an outspoken Catholic.
SOURCE http://post-gazette.com/pg/07009/752397-100.stm
GUESS HE WANTS A CRUSADE

Hannity's New TV Show Bestows A Weekly "Enemy Of The State" Award
YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF THE STATE YOU BUFFOON. LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SMASH IT WITH YOUR FACE!!!

OKAY, YOU CLOWNS WANT A RELIGIOUS WAR??? DO I HEAR YOU RIGHT? YOU ARE *NOT* ON GOD'S SIDE. GUESS WHICH SIDE THAT PUTS YOU FOOLS ON??? BRING IT ON DEMONS...I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU!!!!!!!
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Hope that satisfied your curiousty Bob-0. if not come on back and let us discuss your idiocy some more.

Bob, why don't you shut and go away. If you don't like what he has to say just don't read it. I happen to think he adds great value to this forum. He balances idiots like Bob here who think they should be able to dictate what other people are exposed to. You fascist freak!

This man is a simpleton. Why is he commenting here? Is he an employee of the Washington Post?

Just curious, thank you.

Bob

My good Friend, Mr. Thomas, we meet and agree again. I am of the opinion that the slope is just too slippery and that Separation of Church and State is the wisest path to stay on. If a candidate explains his or her policies in terms of their faith, well that opens up their entire record to religious scrutiny. I would like to quote some remarks made by Mr. Barry Goldwater if I may...
By the 1980s, with Ronald Reagan as president and the growing involvement of the religious right in conservative politics, Goldwaters libertarian views on personal issues were revealed, which he believed were an integral part of true conservativism. Goldwater viewed abortion as a matter of personal choice, not intended for government intervention. In fact, his own daughter Joanne chose to have an abortion before her first marriage at the age of 20, and he supported her decision. He was also not against homosexuals in the military. As a passionate defender of personal liberty, he saw the religious rights views as an encroachment on personal privacy and individual liberties. In his 1980 Senate reelection campaign, Goldwater won support from religious conservatives but in his final term voted consistently to uphold legalized abortion. Goldwater also disagreed with the Reagan administration on certain aspects of foreign policy e.g. he opposed the decision to mine Nicaraguan harbors. Notwithstanding his prior differences with Dwight Eisenhower, Goldwater in a 1986 interview rated him the best of the seven Presidents with whom he had served. After his retirement in 1987, Goldwater described the conservative Arizona Governor Evan Mecham as “hardheaded” and called on him to resign, and two years later stated that the Republican Party had been taken over by a “bunch of kooks”. In a 1994 interview with the Washington Post the retired senator said, When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.
Some of Goldwaters statements in the 1990s aggravated many social conservatives. He endorsed Democrat Karan English in an Arizona congressional race, urged Republicans to lay off Clinton over the Whitewater scandal, and criticized the militarys ban on homosexuals: “Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar.” He also said, “You dont have to be straight to be in the military you just have to be able to shoot straight.” In 1996 he told Bob Dole, whose own presidential campaign received lukewarm support from conservative Republicans: “Were the new liberals of the Republican Party. Can you imagine that?” In response to Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwells opposition to the nomination of Sandra Day OConnor to the Supreme Court, of which Falwell had said, “Every good Christian should be concerned,” Goldwater retorted: “I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the a#@.” Source Wikipedia. It is kind of hard to stop it all now when the Democratic Party has lost votes by being labeled as Godless Liberals etc., etc., etc. I sincerely hope that Ms. Coulter, a very gifted child of God, no longer holds such views. Perhaps if those folks who did all the damage to the image of those who are left of their positions (mostly everyone) would recant, our political landscape would be much cleaner and devoid of the casualties of war. In lieu of that, perhaps Holy Teachers can testify that Politics and Religion, as a group activity, just do not mix very well. Such lessons would be most welcome in the run up to election nights. What do you think Sir?

God Bless you and yours Mr. Cal Thomas. I am *not* running for office! Until we meet again and well beyond, be well in mind, body and soul.

Cal Thomas:

This argument is a bit of a surprise from someone who has argued for many conservation social positions with rhetoric saturated in religious moralism. But, a good argument is a good argument. Your points are well taken.

When religous folk are treated as just another interest group, religion is diminished, as is politics. The religion that should be revealed to the public is the religion that affects one's policy positions, for only then is it relevant. I agree with you.

DW:

It is inaccurate to assume all issues are moral issues. For example, consider your rhetoric as applied to securities regulation: "If you dont involve God/religion in such matters, then who is the authority? Man?" Who else?

Is it so "ludicrous to think mankind is the author of morality"? Do you worship God because he is good, or is the good whatever God says is good? If it is the former, then you ARE using man-created morality to assess God. If it is the later, then in what sense is there any morality at all? Might would make right. So, morality can ONLY come from man.

CTCL:

I'd be happy if they tried following commandments 5, 7 and 8. All the others require "implied" natural laws that actually come from men. 6 and 9 are clearly the Mormon with several wives trying to shush off other men. Without 10, no one would ever buy a new dress, car or house. Of course wanting other people's property does lead to violations of 5, 7 and 8. Wasn't it Dillinger that said he robbed banks because that's where the money was?

A sufficient statement by my candidates would be: "I follow the Eight Commandments" i.e. the non-God commandments plus "I love my neighbor as myself".

DW

I am trying to figure out how "remembering the sabbath day and keeping it holy", and "having no gods before me" has much to do with, say, health care policy, or deciding who to invade next, or even environmental laws. Of course, one wonders whether the sabbath in question should be on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, there seems to be some disagreement among those who believe. Maybe it means we can't invade Iran on a Sunday, or we should nuke India because many Hindus are polytheistic? Perhaps witch burning should be back in vogue? Prison sentences for homosexuals?

DW, I suspect you have very defined and unquestioned views on what constitutes morality. I will bet they are quite uncompromising, and that you would argue that only people who believe in God should have any say in public policy. I am not trying to put words into your mouth, but correct me if I am wrong.

Mr Cal Sir:

Have you and yours, Dr Falwell come to a conclusion about interpretation 1,501 of Exodus yet? I know you'd like to hear this is the "last" chace but the truth is here to stay. The Bible is a proved hoax. Anything can be prove with a hoax but it's not wise to do that.

One more time, http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul And let me add hurry. At the rate things are going the price of ticket to hell will be out of reach. Don't get shut out.

Talk of religion, or better put, considering the deep meaning of and living by all truth of God (which includes ALL 10 commandments)is totally relevant to public policy, especially that of morality or policies pertaining to morality. If you dont involve God/religion in such matters, then who is the authority? Man? It is ludicrous to think mankind is the author of morality. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Mankind, the powers that be, or however you want to portray it are the only ones who makes God NOT the same yesterday, today and forever. McChurch is mans doing, not God's

Talk of religion is irrelevant, especially if it is in the context of public policy. McChurch, the drive-through, fast-food temple of the Christian Right, has dumbed down God into Caesar, and America will pay a dear price for this 5th grade theology.

Religion, however, is critical to vision, and no politician should be too timid to call for faith to rise and be counted. Raegan's "Morning in America" was about the rise of faith without making religious ideology a framework for public policy.

The best hope to bridge that gap at present is Sen. OBama, who is in a flight of fancy at the moment. It remains to be seen whether or not he can lead God's people into the Promised Land.

Stan Moody, Christiian Policy Institute, author of McChurched: 300 Million Served and Still Hungry.

Mr. Thomas -- former Vice President of Falwell's Moral Majority -- now decides he wants to take God out of political discourse. I smell a rat. I think this viewpoint might be because the extreme fundamentalist Christian agenda has finally become an embarrassment to the GOP. He is against it because maybe it isn't working so well for his side.

For example, he did say this on an August 10, 2005 television appearance:

Cal Thomas: But taken together with school prayer, same-sex marriage, abortion on demand, the Terri Schiavo case, it is a general feeling that everything that a lot of God-fearing, tax-paying, flag-waving patriotic Americans care about is taken away -- is being taken away by the courts and by the wider culture. So standing alone this might not have had the resonance that it does, but taken together with all of these other things, I think that's where the problem lies.

He is simply not to be believed on this issue.

I would agree, sorrowfully. I think the following passage also is relevant:

Luke 16:13

13No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.