Senator McCain’s comments on his litmus test of religion as a qualification to be president of the United States are simply outrageous.
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October 16, 2007 4:19 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 16, 2007 16:19
Sen McCain has thrown his hat into the fray for title of commander in chief. Veterans have given up on his views on Iraq which reflect the Bush campaign against terror. Veterans are further perplexed at his new leap of faith as a baptist. They expected someone who spent years at the Hanoi Hilton to have been firm in his relationship to a personal savior. But now he is looking at votes and apparently did not count enough in the Episcopal church. Thank God he did not become a Buddhist or Catholic.
October 6, 2007 4:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 6, 2007 16:08
The ideology contained in the Qur’an is hostile to the foundation of our nation and the constitution. Islamic doctrine calls for the subjection of all peoples and nations to Allah and to sharia law. Sharia law is opposed to our form of government that allows for freedom of religion. True Muslims would never see themselves as citizens of the USA and are hostile towards the liberty we share. All Qur’an believing Muslims should be working to overthrow all governments that are not under the rule of Allah if they are truly following the Qur’an and the Haddith. In light of this all Qur’an believing Muslims are enemies of the USA. If they follow the teachings of the Qur’an it could be rightly said that they are working towards the overthrow of the USA. Think about that, what kind of activity is person engaged in if they are actively working towards the overthrow of our government.
Thus the Qur'an and the Hiddith are the problem. When true believers follow them there are big problems because Muhammad commanded jihad on all infidels which includes all Christians, Jews, atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. All moderate Muslims are infidels according to the Qur’an and to true Muslims. The Politically Correct anti-American zealots in the media cannot see this though because they are living in a fantasy world of their own making. They bow their knees to the alter of relativism and will not realize how wrong they have been and how they have aided the enemies of the USA until a nuclear bomb is set off in one our cities by authentic Muslims or they are living under Sharia law.
October 5, 2007 9:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 5, 2007 09:09
Danny Bannister:
May be if you provide the exact verse to which you refer (the "clause" you refer to, I believe, has been taken out of context). Why don't you cite the other verses that do say that among the Jews and Christians there those who truly know God and are good in the eyes of God?
Anonymous:
By definition, any belief system is does not have freedom of religion! Can you imagine a pastor saying "hey, Christianity is not for you, why don't you check next door, err, Hinduism"?
The problem with you and Danny is that you pick (or who ever dishonest person picked them for you) the verses that puts Islam in a negative light. Granted, God in Quran does say some negative things about Jews and Christians, bur (1) these are not general statements that apply to all Jews and Christians, and (2) the Bible does say equally damning things as well.
The question is, will we as reasonable people of different faiths be tolerant of each other and reason through these matters? If we all blindly follow the literal, uncritical readings of our different holy books, then we are all doomed.
October 5, 2007 8:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 5, 2007 08:46
When it comes to being a Christian then it would appear that America will mock the individual. Are you not aware that the Koran states that thei charter is to Kill all Christians and Jews. I believe the actual words are "Make no friend with a Christian or a Jew for they are your enemy." Can we actually ever consider to make the enemy of this Christian Nation an elected official? We are at war with a country that hates us! Senator McCain is bold enough to state his objections and his stand. Freedom of speech is vital, and yet it is attacked continually. McCain is a citizen and enjoys the freedoms provided in the Constitution.
October 5, 2007 8:18 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 5, 2007 08:18
Islam doctrine taught in the Qur'an is hostile towards the constitution because Islam does not include freedom of religion. Therefore the USA should not allow any Muslim in any office in the USA.
October 5, 2007 8:05 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 5, 2007 08:05
Reverend,
I'm afraid you and I are on opposite sides in the matter of faith, but we read the Constitution exactly the same way. I applaud the clarity with which you speak. It is refreshing. The Constitution protects the practice of all faiths, and no faith, equally. What a marvelous idea that was, and is.
Thank you for your forthrightness.
October 5, 2007 4:00 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 5, 2007 04:00
Why are we even discussing this?
Well.....hmmm, could it be that poor, white, mostly southern and midwestern, christian fanatics, who are either stupid, ignorant or immoral, voted for GW and gang?
Why this traitorous White House has not been impeached only speaks to the ignorance, gullibility and mean-spiritedness of our home grown christian fanatics.
Sorry, in expressing my disgust with this vile and wicked White House I temporarily forgot that the article is about McCain.
Sadly, McCain, a former hero of mine, has sold out, become irrelevant, and is now past tense.
God save our Constitution from christian fanatics.
October 4, 2007 9:44 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 21:44
Why are we even discussing this?
Well.....hmmm, could it be that poor, white, mostly southern and midwestern, christian fanatics, who are either stupid, ignorant or immoral, voted for GW and gang?
Why this traitorous White House has not been impeached only speaks to the ignorance, gullibility and mean-spiritedness of our home grown christian fanatics.
Sorry, in expressing my disgust with this vile and wicked White House I temporarily forgot that the article is about McCain.
Sadly, McCain, a former hero of mine, has sold out, become irrelevant, and is now past tense.
God save our Constitution from christian fanatics.
October 4, 2007 9:43 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 21:43
Asim:
I am a Muslim and did not find McCain's remarks offensive. He just expressed his feelings about what kind of president he would like to have in the WH. With that said, the constitution is clear, and McCain did not say emphatically anything that goes against the Constitution.
Moreover, I really do not think that McCain is a racist. Instead, he is a politician. He has to say what serves his career best. That is what politicians do. I would still not vote for him. I'd vote Ron Paul -- a man of true integrity and clear honest message. Ron Paul is a true Constitutionalist and a tue conservative.
In the meantime, I strongly advice you Asim not to play the racism card at will. It hurts Muslims when racism accusations are misplaced.
October 4, 2007 8:34 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 20:34
Thanks, Rev. Gaddy for eloquently affirming the truth.
October 4, 2007 8:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 20:28
What happened to the days of my youth when you went to church on Sunday. Sang, kneeled and prayed and then went home and didn't talk about god 'till next Sunday. Ahh! Nice boring protestantism that's what's wanted now.
October 4, 2007 8:25 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 20:25
The Executive branch is so over powerful, it's essential candidates be thouroughly investigated so we can get to know them before they are seated in office. Saying Presidential candidates or appointees shouldn't be closely questioned concerning their beliefs, is affirming blind ignorant trust. Is Southern Baptist the consensus all-embracing faith of weather where you live? If I live to 100 I'll never believe. Does establishing Heaven On Earth, necessitate making the experience of living hellish for unbelievers; to convince them they are not RIGHT?
October 4, 2007 7:32 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:32
"Candidates on both sides of the aisle are using religion in radically new ways within their political operations. Some journalists are forcing candidates to defend the practices and beliefs of their faith, proclaim their favorite Bible verses, confess their greatest sin, and describe how they pray and how regularly they attend services. These and other questions about religion have no bearing over a candidate's vision for leading this country and they hurt both religion and democracy."
AMEN!
October 4, 2007 7:27 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:27
Dear Reverend Gaddy
Thank you very much for your reasoned and truthful comments. You are a truly responsible person. Unfortunately, you are an exception. In today's America, ignorance prevails... I have heard dozens of people, in particular young people claim that the constitution is based on the 10 commandments. Of course, they are simply repeating the words of people like McCain who have a hidden agenda behind their "teachings". I dream of a day when religion (or lack thereof) will no longer be used to divide our citizens.
October 4, 2007 7:27 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:27
Anyone who believes the world was created 6000 years ago, that man was created as man, that a man, Jesus is lugging a human body around a cloud, that celebrating the torture and murder of a God to cleanse the human pysch of God's error, that eating the flesh of God and drinking the blood of God is not ritual canabilism, that the Christian God is reduced to subway stains, cheese sandwich swirls, and shadows in windows to demonstrate his existance, that saying I believe Jesus is God means that all acts of cruelity, barbarism, and bigotry are ignored by that Jesus in his judgement at the end of days, that helping the Zionists conquer the whole of Palestine will bring the 2nd coming of Jesus to kill those same Zionists as unbelievers...is hardly fit to make any kind of a sane and reasoned judgement about anything!!
October 4, 2007 7:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:23
Datourist,
What's up with the judgmental attitude?
October 4, 2007 7:16 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Mr Gaddy,
A great offering! Thank you.
In 2000, although a liberal independent, I was prepared to support McCain because he was truly independent. And he lost the nomination because of the Shrub's (Shrub = Bush = Darth Dubya) mud slinging. And he came out against the religious right big time.
So what does old John do now? Sucks up to the Shrub and the religious right. The comment about "America is a Christian nation" was the nail in the coffin. He has truly prostituted himself.
October 4, 2007 7:16 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:16
I am appalled that Senator McCain has denigrated himself to such a degree as to assail the basic tenets of our constitution and our nation to maintain separate religion and the state in order to pander to the religious right for their possible votes. One has only to look at the recent hideous lesson of religious fanaticism on governance (or the lack thereof) in Iraq to see the clear wisdom of our forefathers in keeping separate church and state. God (Allah, Jeowah, Buddha, Vishnu) forbid we forget these lessons!
October 4, 2007 7:07 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 19:07
Datourist, you need to get a life buddy. I'm no constitutional scholar either but I do know that somewhere it there it mentions church and state being seperated and it also mentions that no religious litmus test shall be given to anyone who wants to hold a political office. If you do want those things to be tied in with government than pack up and move to Iran.
October 4, 2007 6:41 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:41
Why do none of the other candidates, Dem or GOP, reminisce about their POW experiences? About being in the belly of the Communist beast for seven years?
Has Rev. Gaddy ever done anything demonstrative of physical courage or loyalty?
October 4, 2007 6:34 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:34
We know that John McCain had his Christian faith tested in the crucible of the Hanoi Hilton for seven years, and never made any compromising or disloyal statements about the USA, not even for the quid pro quo of early release, and not under the pressure of brutal physical and psychological torture!
What makes Rev. Gaddy someone credible concerning Constitutional law?
October 4, 2007 6:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:28
If the Rev. Gaddy is all upset about McCain's pro-Christian attitude, then maybe I should take more seriously McCain's claims of Baptist sympathy.
You can always assess a person by his enemies as well as his friends.
October 4, 2007 6:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:23
I didn't notice that the Rev. Gaddy had any particular expertise in the Constitution, and I don't see in his bio that he's elected to any governing body for which I'm eligible to vote.
I'm be interested in knowing his opinions about the the Holy Bible, but I can read the opinions of our Supreme Court justices to find out what constitutional, what's not.
October 4, 2007 6:18 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:18
Christianity, flowing out of the Reformation and the Renaissance, developed an understanding of clear separations of authority between the Kingdom of God, which Jesus said was not of this world, and secular authority. It is an important value in the Christian faith to share that faith with others in the hope they will adopt it. Islamic values at their root run counter to the Constitution which has a recognition of a separation of religious and secular authority as well as respect for one's religious freedom. Islamic traditions would impose Shariah, or Islamic law, upon all people. That all people should hold Muslim beliefs is not as important as that all shall be in submission to their view of God. Those who shall not submit, (Muslim comes from the word for submit) are worthy of death. Almost every war in the war going on currently is because of a clash with Islamic values. Do we really want a Muslim for President considering they teach that you have to pray this, wear this, better be male or you can do this and this or that including wear what you want, have your hair as you want, marry who you want etc... When I was in Iraq I saw Muslim values. They blow up schools for fun. Not boys schools. Girls schools. Women's schools. And they celebrate. Surely Americans are smarter than endorse a tradition that can give birth to these atrocities in today's world by electing someone from that tradition.
October 4, 2007 6:17 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:17
Does the Rev. Gaddy profess (with Episcopalian Bishop V. Gene Robinson) that homosexual acts are Holy Sacraments?
Just wondered! Well, does he?
October 4, 2007 6:14 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:14
Does the Rev. Gaddy profess that social justice trumps personal salvation in the hiearchy of Christian values?
Just wondered! Well, does he?
October 4, 2007 6:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 18:11
I truly admire John McCain for his prolife stance, his support for sensible immigration laws,his efforts to limit campaign spending and his dedication to his country.Our country will be safer with him at the helm.We won't have to worry that he will disgrace the Oval Office with juvenile and immoral behavior.
October 4, 2007 5:33 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Please excuse the typo; for "Freindship" read "Friendship."
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please excuse the typo; for "Freindship" read "Friendship."
October 4, 2007 2:44 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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McCain literally doesn't know what he's talking about when he asserts Christian foundations for the Constitution.
The "Treaty of Peace and Freindship between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoly of Barbary," was read aloud and unanimously approved in its entirety by the Senate in June 1797. John Adams signed it and proclaimed it to the nation. It was widely published with no public dissent. Article 11. of the treaty states:
"Art. 11....the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
Thomas Jeffferson first used the phrase, "a wall of separation between church and state," in his letter to the Danbury Baptists.
And, in 1819, James Madison, principal author of the Constitution, wrote: "The civil government, though bereft of anything like an associated heirarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State."
October 4, 2007 2:37 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 14:37
McCain might be "babbling" but said type of babbling worked for Reagan and for the Bush family. It also saved Bill Clinton. (The old "He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone at her" defense as per John 8:1-30).
Election Day is November 4, 2008.
October 4, 2007 2:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 14:20
Consider the source and you will find Mr. McCain is just another Christian republican at least until after the election.
I wonder how politicians can call themselves Christian when they lie to the public, take PAC monies under the table, steal from the public, cheat on their spouses and have homosexual affairs, all against Christian teachings, and kill and torture other human beings in the name of "their GOD"
I am glad I am Nichiren Buddhist and not associated with the Christians at all. Dennis kucinich looks good to me as a person that stands for peace.
Patrick
October 4, 2007 2:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 14:20
Try this on for size. Bush/Rove had great success pandering to the wackos. You could hear all the code-words and code-phrases coming out of bushie's mouth. The left seems to be doing that as well, though to a smaller extent (a tiny bit smaller).
Why does this work? Why do the panderers have such great success?
Many if not most of us have reached such a state of disgust that we don't bother voting anymore. In fact, the only people voting in any reliably predictable numbers are those who are susceptible to the pandering. (panderattis, castrated by pandering?)
Talk about your natural selection. Why should the politicians do anything else, why not pander? It works. The religious types are the ones who are most reliably right-wing, so pander to them. They're used to being told pretty stories anyway, they're used to having their agenda fed to them ... why stop doing what works?
So we should blame ouselves for not voting in sufficient numbers, but one thing for certain we should ask: who are these people, these panderattis? After all, it is their agenda, their preconceived notions, their bigotries to which the politicians are pandering. It is their world the politicians are promising.
Know thy enemy.
October 4, 2007 2:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 14:11
Great article. This is the first I've heard of McCain's words. I have respect for McCain the man but he is obviously catering to the bigotted evangelical voter which itself is not happy with the presidential candidates. Pandering to bigotry should be an important consideration when considering qualifications for office as should a poor understanding of the Constitution. McCain's own words should cause red blooded Americans to stand up for the Constitution and not vote for him. But evangelicals have shown they have holy water running in their veins, and not American red blood.
October 4, 2007 12:17 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 12:17
Having spent time in the middle-east, Senator McCain along with most of the Candidates DEM/GOP, give me the same creepy feeling I experienced there. Everyone seemed to cater to Islam, whether or not they actually believe. Unfortunately, we now seem to be just another variation of the Talibani type system, albeit of less intensity.
One reader said they would like to see an agnostic or atheist run for office. Truth is, they are probably looking at a lot of them running right now.
"Politicians" never say what they really believe, just what they think we want to hear. With the exception of "Dr. NO", Ron Paul, although some might say that he too is a little guilty, being a textbook "Libertarian" elected under a "Republican" label. Although to be fair, Ron Paul was "Republican" when the GOP honored many of the Libertarian Party principles, i.e. small government, fiscal responsibility, etc.
Kids...that was before the present NEO-Con takeover that replaced the concepts of small government with BIGGER MORE INTRUSIVE government and "fiscal responsibility" with BORROW and SPEND!
Since G.W.Bush, there is not much left of the GOP party for Americans to support, it has abandoned most of its principles and currently run by an habitual liar (Bush).
Today many of the "principled" GOP members, like Bob Barr, have left the GOP and joined the Libertarian Party. I too come from a long line of GOP party members, today, I too am a proud Libertarian Party member.
The Libertarian Party is poised to move in as the GOP goes the way of the Whig Party.
If you, like Ron Paul, believe in smaller, less costly, less intrusive, constitutional government, well...you are a Libertarian, you just may not know it yet.
October 4, 2007 12:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 12:08
The republican party is basically just an organized crime syndicate.
October 4, 2007 11:53 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 11:53
Less than ten years after the creation of the Constitution a treaty with the clause saying the United States was “not in any way founded on the Christian religion” was negotiated and ratified by most of those same men. I do not know how they could have made it more explicit.
October 4, 2007 11:49 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 11:49
KEN
So just what difference DO you see between,
(1) I prefer as president someone who has a solid grounding in my faith; and
(2) An entire group of people should be barred from seeking the presidency based only on their religion.
To prefer Christians for president to non-Christians is to reject non-Christians for president, and to do so before you know anything else about the candidate.
If you mean "barred" in a legal sense, then McCain did not go that far. The distance he went, however, is plenty disturbing. You don't seem at all disturbed. For you is it Christians uber allis?
October 4, 2007 11:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 11:46
Well written and on point. McCain's blabber is just another confirmation of the right's attempt to interpret the constitution in their own twisted, illogical way and convince their ideological partners of their righteousness. When will sane America stand up and speak out against these perverted and twisted interpretations of the greatest document ever written?
October 4, 2007 11:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 11:09
In response to Buddhist's posting: Read the Hebrew Scriptures and see that the history presented offers a twofold command: annihilate those in the way of Yahweh's promise and do not intermarry, thus avoiding the polluting of the Chosen People, e.g., "the races shall not mix". Sorry, can't cite the chapter and verse but that phrase has been used, with the citation, to justify segregation and Jim Crow laws. Buddhist will, upon further navel reflection, recall that Constantine forced the conversion of the Empire to Christianity, supposedly based on a vision at the Milvian Bridge, but more likely out of a "can't beat 'em, so join 'em and get more soldiers" mentality.
While titular today, also recall that the head of the Church of England is the monarch, and much blood was spilled in that radical transition based on a syphillitic's obsession with begetting a male heir. Murder, most foul, perpetrated by the "Defender of The Faith".
Indeed, Buddhist's own fellow adherents have taken up arms in India and other mixed religion countries, perhaps only in defense, but it is a slippery slope from defense to offense.
Finally, recall that prior to the Catholicization of Spain under Ferdinand and Isabella, various religions and cultures lived pretty harmoniously under the Moors, and gave to the world much culture, along with the fruits of Arabic Muslim mathematical and geometrical knowledge.
Jesus and Muhammed were, indeed, very different figures. Yet Moses, Joshua and other Biblical leaders seem to share what Buddhist paints as Muhammed's militaristic approach in their efforts at establishing the Promised Land and of keeping the gene pool pure.
Regrettably, many Christians departed from Jesus' message of peace and love of neighbor being equal to that of loving God, and have continued to distort the Nazarene's message to this day.
In the end, the Constitutional "wall of separation" between Church and State is not a ban on a candidate's discussion of his/her religious beliefs, but it should serve as a standard by which any candidate's declaration relative to a "comfort level" with another candidate's religion should jar any voter from their own comfort zone regarding any such candidate.
October 4, 2007 11:08 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 11:08
I would have to strongly agree with your comments. If Mr. Mcain wants to be the Commander in Chief he needs to be more un-biased in his views. I for one believe that religion has no place in politics. The President of the United States serves for all the people not just the ones who are of the same faith that he/she practices. When your judgement on a bill is based on your faith and not what is right for the people of the USA, then you have failed in the execution of your duties as the President. I guess I would rather see someone elected on thier merits and not thier faith or lack of it.
October 4, 2007 10:54 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:54
Appreciate your analysis but like many candidates claiming religious affiliation then demonstrate lack of biblical knowledge, I must point out that your statement (although inserted for literary effect) that candidates are "running for Commander-in-Chief", is incorrect. It should be made clear that the candidates are running for the Presidency of the United States. A President is not my "Commander in Chief", I am not it the military.
October 4, 2007 10:53 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:53
I think Senator McCain was merely voicing, with characteristic honesty, something that every "electable" candidate must feel either consciously or otherwise. This is primarily because the electorate is, on average, tuned to realize such truths about their choices whether it comes out or not.
At the same time, a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim voter is better off gravitating towards a secular candidate (but one who nevertheless follows a personal faith owing to the realities above) who is able to rationally and consciously keep matters of religion out of policy matters. This strategy would be true for any minority religion, as for those who profess no religion at all.
In summary, Senator McCain has indeed rendered himself reproachable for his lack of decorum in binging realities of bad taste to a public arena. He should be secretly commended for being honest in bringing out the fact that we are all bigoted in one way or another. I shall, as a voter, make my decision so the game is guaranteed to achieve Nash equilibrium. I hope everybody else does the same.
October 4, 2007 10:52 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:52
The mere fact that senator Mcain feels the need to pander to the the religious wing of the conservative party speaks volumes for so-called people of faith. As there are many references to God & Politics, I am struck by the entrenched nature of the relationship between Conservatives and what now seems to be a wing of the party united by faith. There have been immoral acts commited by members of this party on a grand scale Adultry, homosexual acts, prostitution, corruption, Katrina, SCHIP Veto, candidates with 2 & 3 families and Wives. You could say yeah that's politics as usual, but not for Christians! I expect more outrage and it's just not there. Mccain should be rebuffed and the religious should raise the bar to a standard worthy that follows the Gospel. No more excuses like "all fall short of the Glory of God" Inspirational people of faith like the Disciples, or Ghandi, or even Martin L. King never ran for political office. No more claiming a moral authority and tolerating immoral acts without dissent from the so-called, self titled Religious in this country. Things are going terribly wrong and there has to be a reason. Maybe God does'nt like this blind eye alliance from people of faith.
October 4, 2007 10:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:46
"Why would anybody but the wealthiest white, rightwing males, vote Republican?"
Actually, according to every poll taken in the last year and half or so, about 80% of the people are opposed to the neocon agenda, so it appears that there aren't many supporters other than wealthy, white right-wing males. I'm sure the comment above supporting the neocons, comments which are few and far between these days is made by someone who loves the GOP because they not only take on the terrorists (what a joke) but they attack even imaginary opponents. They're so gung ho to protect us from the bad men that they create wars out of nothing and based on lies. Now, that's something to support. I heard weapons trading is unchecked in Mexico. When do we invade?
It's so refreshing to see that there are only a few stragglers left supporting these nazi miscreants and that the rest of the country has come to it's senses. However, you will always have kool aid guzzling, weak minded sheep that can be convinced of anything even if it defies all logic and reality. As one poster put it above, "their minds are so open their brains have fallen out."
October 4, 2007 10:41 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:41
McCain, by calling this a "Christian nation", effectively declares those of us of other faiths to be non-American, even un-American. That's a fair inference.
And those of you making blanket statements about how all Muslims are out to conquer the world obviously don't know any real Muslims. Fact is, most people in most faiths are decent human beings who want to live and raise their families in peace. I don't think people's characters are shaped by their holy books or beliefs so much as people's characters shape their own interpretation of their holy book or beliefs. Decent honorable kindly Muslims, Christians, Pagans, Buddhists, Jews, atheists, agnostics, etc. can all find justification for their desire to be kind to their neighbor, love their families and live in peace in their holy books or belief systems. People whose main desire is to conquer or to feel superior through self-righteous judgement or to destroy or discriminate against anyone who isn't just like them can generally find that in their holy book or belief system too. What matters is how you read it, and what you do.
I will say that the Muslims I know are all loving, generous, honest and charitable individuals who do credit and honor to their faith, as are many of the other people of other faiths that I know.
When I'm voting for President, I want someone who is thoughtful, intelligent, supports the issues I care about, and is willing to defend and uphold the Constitution, including the bits about letting me (and others) live in peace and freedom as a non-Christian who IS, despite John McCain, a full American citizen. What they believe about God is less important than who they are, if only because who they are almost always guides their beliefs about God.
October 4, 2007 10:38 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:38
While Christians have contributed tremendously to this Country, this in no way is a Christian Nation. Americans don't know enough of their own history.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were not Christians. They were both Free Masons, which is based on the Egyptian religion recognizing Osiris as the 'Lord of the Under World'. Over 40% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were FreeMasons.
The Washington Monument is an Obelisk not a Cross. The Obelisk is the "Symbol of Osiris", these beliefs date back more than 3000 BC. (Google 'Osiris, Isis and Horus' for more info if desired)
We fought off the British Christian rulers and wanted the 'Freedom of' and 'Freedom from' Religion.
While we want leaders with morals, we shouldn't assume because they "claim" that they're a Christian, that they're a good Christian. Unfortunately, some of the highest of Christian leaders lately have turned out to be Pedofiles & Hypocrits.
It would be sweet if Leaders could be more tolerant and understanding regardless of their Religion or non Religion. Obviously Mr. McCain thinks Christians are better than other Human Beings. Religious fanatics are no different regardless of their faith.
No matter what you believe, you still should go out and be a decent Human Being daily, if not hourly.
October 4, 2007 10:37 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:37
Please note that in practice US laws strongly favor religion, no matter what the Constitution says. US tax and regulatory practice massively subsidize religious groups and businesses. There is no even playing field in that regard.
October 4, 2007 10:33 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:33
Senator McCain said he would prefer a Christian as President. His candid remarks about anything he personally prefers should not be construed as you have so extravagantly imagined.
October 4, 2007 10:31 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:31
Wow, this just leaves me speechless. Someone who purports to hold the highest office in this country, doesn't know the Constitution inside and out or have read the history of the framers is not fit to be President. He may be trying to win the Christian Right, but lost everyone else.
October 4, 2007 10:25 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:25
McCain was on the mark. The voter must evaluate the whole candidate. Surely that includes a candidate's professed "faith." The particular brand of faith being discussed has fundamental tenets, and observable outcomes. Being tolerant does not mean suspending reasoned judgement. I, too, have my concerns about the state of that "faith" today, and its compatibility with our democratic institutions.
October 4, 2007 10:19 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:19
McCain was on the mark. The voter must evaluate the whole candidate. Surely that include's a candidate's professed "faith." The particular brand of faith being discussed has fundamental tenets, and observable outcomes. Being tolerant does not mean suspending reasoned judgement. I, too, have my concerns about the state of that "faith" today, and its compatibility with our democratic institutions.
October 4, 2007 10:18 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:18
McCain was on the mark. The voter must evaluate the whole candidate. Surely that include's a candidate's professed "faith." The particular brand of faith being discussed has fundamental tenets, and observable outcomes. Being tolerant does not mean suspending reasoned judgement. I, too, have my concerns about the state of that "faith" today, and its compatibility with our democratic institutions.
October 4, 2007 10:18 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:18
Bush, The Village Idiot, has made much fuss about his Christianity. My concept of Christianity includes altruism and charity towards people. I regard Bush as a sanctimonious bigot. Why do we need another President who is going to utter foolish statements like those of Senator McCain?
Tolerance, dignity, equal treatment of all citizens requires respect for their religious, or non-religious beliefs. Try again McCain.
October 4, 2007 10:14 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:14
Religious sentiment is a private matter and McCain is free to express his as he wishes, even when it relates to public policy. Nobody is obligating you to vote for him. McCain uses his religious sentiments to further his career in the same way that a whole variety of preachers use their interpretations of the bible to further theirs. Let's face it, if McCain's sentiment should have no bearing on public policy, then neither should yours, Reverend Gaddy. Ironically, your comments send the message loud and clear that religious views have no place in public affairs.
October 4, 2007 10:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 4, 2007 10:03