Blame Nobel, not Obama
When I first read that President Obama had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, it was in a 5 a.m. email from a friend, not a fan of the President's, and I assumed my friend was joking. Reading this morning's Washington Post, I realized three things: he was not, the judges were misguided and/or misunderstood at best, and that their decision may actually make a mockery of an otherwise noble prize.
Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama is probably ridiculous and maybe even shameful, if the award is to have any real meaning. And I write that as one who voted for Obama, and would likely do so again if he faced the same competition in the race. But awarding this prize, at this time, to President Obama may actually be a bigger embarrassment than having awarded it to Yassir Arafat.
Arafat, even if he was insincere in many of his claims about making peace with Israel, and continued to support terror against Israel, did transform the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, putting peace concretely on the agenda of both sides. With all that one can say about how badly Arafat behaved, even after having won the prize, when the history books are written, they will all record the sea change brought by his decision to negotiate with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. Love him or loathe him, Yassir Arafat changed the game on peace in the Middle East.
In terms of changing the game on international peace, Obama has simply not done that, at least not yet. That is not an attack on him, perhaps no one could do so given the short amount t of time in which he has been in office, and given the challenges we face. But the bottom line remains that he hasn't done so, and unless the purpose of this award has been redefined, as being to better position a potential peacemaker, it should not have gone to him.
President Obama getting this award threatens to demean the process, past recipients, and may indicate that the judges are the worst kinds of panderers who some have previously accused them of being.
A brighter possibility is that the award committee gave him the prize for being black, or more accurately for being the first black president of the United States, and for the healing which that accomplishment represents. But if that is the case, the award should go to the American public because it's about his presidency, not his personal accomplishments in the area of peacemaking.
In fact, the words of the award committee indicate that this may have indeed been their purpose. Of course, if it was, then they should have said so. Heralding Obama as a transformative figure in U.S. and international diplomacy, the committee said: "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future".
It is not what he has done, but who he is, that inspires hope according to the people who gave the award. And there is no question that hope and peace are closely related. One could even argue that it is not peace which leads to hope, but hope which leads to peace.
If by instilling hope one effectively lays the groundwork for lasting peace, then perhaps there is a degree of wisdom in choosing Obama for the Peace Prize. But that is a claim which should have come from the committee which awarded the prize, not a commentator like me who is trying to make sense of an otherwise strange set of circumstances.
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Posted by: ccnl1 | October 21, 2009 11:48 PM
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Dear CNNL
You are just making up stuff. You are not presenting any reality. You persist in your racist slur against Obama. You persist in repeating it, even as you deny it. You are not a nice person. You are a rude and obnoxious person. All I have asked you to do is to drop your racist pun in calling Obama by his initials, BO, an obvious reference to body odor, an obvious implicaition that black people are dirty and smell.
You cannot control yourself; you cannot stop this ugly reference; all you can do to continue to repeat it, all the while denying there is any reacist intent in it.
And again, you insist that part of Obama's immorality comes from his failure to adopt children, even though most people do not adopt children, and even though you, yourself, have admitted that you have not adopted children.
I guess I just have real resentment against the years on top of years of your persistently ugly comments here. I just don't want you to feel that you can so easily make your ugly racist comments about President Obama without somebody calling you on it. He won the election, fair and square. I guess you're just going to have suck it up, and in the procerss, maybe, learn some basic manners.
I personally would prefer that you not post on this Forum anymore, period, until you start behaving with just simple and ordinary manners.
And please do not sqeal back to me about freedom of speech; I have my freedom of speech too, and I am using; get used to it.
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 21, 2009 8:23 PM
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Daniel, Daniel, Daniel,
Once again, presenting the reality of the 2008 Presidential election is not being rude or racist. It is simply being honest i.e. BO won the election because of the largest demographic in the country i.e. the "Immoral Majority" i.e. the "mothers and fathers" of 35 million murdered babies in the womb.
And btw, I am also a very nice person supporting 50 charities to include the local Mother's Home.
And again, it sure would be a great example to the global community if BO and his wife would adopt a child or even children. GB/LB failed in this regard. BC/HC should also have adopted a child or children but obviously BC had other pursuits.
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 21, 2009 4:46 PM
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Dear CCNL
You're just making up stuff and being deliberately obnoxious. Abortion was not a Presidential campaign issue, as far as I recall. And I voted for Obama, and I am not the parent of a "dead womb baby" or whatever is your peculiar terminology that you have made up out of your own head.
You use President Obama's initials, B O, in a mocking way, making a pun on the other meaning of BO, "body odor", and then when someone calls you on it, you pretend naive innocence, a la "what? l'il ole me?"
Oh Brother, what a jerk.
As far as I can tell, you don't like Obama because he is black, or more correctly, half black. Your denial of this is unconvincing. Yet you persist in denying it. Why? Do you think this kind of racism is wrong? If so, then why not drop it?
You are a mass of confusions and contradicitons. Supposedly, you are opposed to abortion because of some kind of "love" for your fellow man? But you do not give the impression of a very loving person. You give the impression of a bitter, mean-spirited old man, never missing an opportunity to complain about anything.
Why don't you just drop your "jihad" against the President of the United States. He won, fair and square. If you were a good American, you would not have to get over it. But since you do not seem to be, then let me urge you to "get over it."
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 21, 2009 3:18 PM
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Posted by: coloradodog | October 21, 2009 11:25 AM
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Daniel, Daniel, Daniel,
Presenting the reality of the 2008 Presidential election is not being rude. It is simply being honest i.e. BO won the election because of the largest demographic in the country i.e. the "Immoral Majority" i.e. the "mothers and fathers" of 35 million murdered womb babies.
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 20, 2009 11:57 PM
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CCNL
I should not have to deal with your rude and ugly attitude towards our President. IF you feel that racism is wrong, then just cut it out. Othewise, SHUTUP!
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 20, 2009 7:35 PM
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Daniel, Daniel, Daniel,
A person's initials are used very frequently in commentaries e.g. GB for George Bush.
I do believe BO named his dog BO. Deal with it!!! BO has.
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 19, 2009 12:57 AM
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CCNL
My name is not Daniel.
It is "Daniel, Daniel, Daniel."
And if you do not want me or others to think your views against Obama are based on race, then stop calling him BO. His name is Barak Obama, and he is the President of the United States, elected by a process far more legitimate than the in which George Bush became President.
The sour grapes of you Obama haters is a little grating after awhile. Don't you have even one positive thought in your head about life? Huh?
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 18, 2009 9:36 PM
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Daniel,
No, we did not adopt. I did not make the salary BO pulls down or have his house or his staff and therefore could not afford any more than our three children.
My oldest son has one adopted child along with his other two. My brother and his wife adopted four children all with special needs.
Again, BO's race is not an issue. His support of abortion, however, is and his election will always be tainted by the 70 million votes he got from "mothers and fathers" of 35 million aborted children.
2008 Presidential Popular vote:
69,456,897 to 59,934,814
Percentage 52.9%[1] 45.7%
Coincidence???
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 17, 2009 5:48 PM
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But CCNL
Most people don't adopt children. So why single out President Obama for not adopting children? Most people who adopt children do so because they can't have children of their own. But President Obama already has two little girls. Why do you single him out for special cricicism for not adopting children? Sarah Palin has not adopted any children. Why not come down on her for that? It is because you cannot criticize Obama's skin color because that would be politically incorrect, so you list every other imagined flaw in him that you can dream up.
Why do you repeatedly refer to him as BO, which is another way of saying "body odor"? Is it because you equate being black with being dirty and with body odor? I have never been close enough to smell him, but I bet he smells better than you do.
And by the way, have you adopted any children? And if the answer is yes, have you ever heard of a book called "Mommy Dearest?"
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 17, 2009 4:07 PM
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Karma would be ccnl1 coming back in the next life as a gay dog.
Posted by: coloradodog | October 17, 2009 8:21 AM
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Hmmm, criticizing BO for having adopted a dog? No, criticizing him for not first adopting a child or children.
With respect to dogs:
"The dog bite epidemic: a primer
The number of dogs-
There currently are 74.8 million dogs in the USA. (American Pet Products
Manufacturers Association (APPMA) 2007-2008 National Pet Owners Survey.)
The number of victims
A survey by the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta
("CDC") concluded that dogs bite nearly 2% of the U.S. population -- more than
4.7 million people annually. (Sacks JJ, Kresnow M, Houston B. Dog bites: how big
a problem? Injury Prev 1996;2:52-4.)
Almost 800,000 bites per year -- one out of every 6 -- are serious enough to
require medical attention. (Weiss HB, Friedman D, Coben JH. Incidence of dog
bite injuries treated in emergency departments. JAMA 1998;279:51-53.)
Dog bites send nearly 368,000 victims to hospital emergency departments per year
(1,008 per day). Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Nonfatal Dog
Bite-Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments - United States,
2001, MMWR 2003;52:605-610. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report is published
by the CDC.
16,476 dog bites to persons aged 16 years or greater were work related in 2001.
(Ibid., Nonfatal Dog Bite-Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency
Departments - United States, 2001, MMWR 2003;52:608.
Every year 2,851 letter carriers are bitten. (US Postal Service.)
Getting bitten by a dog is the fifth most frequent cause of visits to emergency
rooms caused by activities common among children. (See Weiss HB, Friedman DI,
Coben JH. Incidence of dog bite injuries treated in emergency departments, JAMA
1998;279:53; also see US Consumer Product Safety Commission, Injuries associated
with selected sports and recreational equipment treated in hospital emergency
departments, calendar year 1994. Consumer Product Safety Review, Summer
1996;1:5.)
Note that this comparison is limited to activities that children more
or less voluntarily engage in, such as playing sports, playing with animals,
etc. Dog bite injuries are not specifically set forth in Federal Interagency
Forum on Child and Family Statistics, Child Injury and Mortality, pp. 36, 37,
136 and 137, which states that the leading causes of emergency room visits
overall are falls, being struck by or against an object, natural or
environmental causes, poisoning, being cut or pierced, and motor vehicle
accident.
An American has a one in 50 chance of being bitten by a dog each year. (CDC.)"
The Koreans got it right. Dogs make for good eating!!!
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 17, 2009 12:45 AM
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Dear CCNL
So now you are criticizing President Obama for having a dog? But alot of people have dogs. Alot of people love their dogs, just the same as they would love a person. So why is President Obama doing anything wrong to have a dog? He probably did not even really want a dog himself; it was probably the kids that wanted the dog. So? What's your point?
Also, I do not consider myslef a BO Backer. But I am an American, and I do like our current Presiednt, whose name is Barak Obama. And I am not an immoral person for liking him. Even if you might disagree with my opinions on abortion, I have not killed any babies, and I am not in the medical profession and never been apart of any abortion procedure or councilling, and I am not a politican, office holder, nor even a political activist, so my opinions are mainly just that, opinions, without any real effect on anything.
So, why do you think that merely liking the current President of the United States would make a person immoral?
Are you more moral than I am becuase you never miss an opportunity to deride and belittle the President, even for having a dog? What is so wrong with having a dog?
Do you hate dogs, too? I am not really a big dog lover, but I can see why people like them, and I certainly don't hate dogs, and I wouldn't object in the least if anyone wanted a dog, including President Obama.
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 16, 2009 10:36 PM
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http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq
Even liberal Americans don't want to know the truth. When you look on European sites the number may well be over 1,000,000. By making reporters 'imbedded' they become 'part of the team' and completely unreliable as legitimate news sources. Pretty much like the the entire American media, including the so called left wing.
Posted by: ender2 | October 16, 2009 3:44 PM
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Once again with references:
The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops, 3,474 killed in action, 878 in non-combat accidents and 93,552 – 102,083 Iraqi civilians killed, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 16, 2009 3:02 PM
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President Obama is our first leader in recent history TO TRY TO STOP THE TERRORIST STATE OF AMERICA FROM COMMITTING ATROCITIES!
With 600,000 non-combatants dead in Iraq alone we have exceeded all recent terrorist states in innocent deaths. Saddam couldn't hold a candle to us. Al qeada are amateurs. Iranians are pacifist compared to us. And most of them commit terrorism to be free of TYRANTS WE CREATE AND SUPPORT. We only murder to MAINTAIN OUR FINANCIAL DOMINANCE OVER THE WORLD.
Posted by: ender2 | October 16, 2009 1:34 PM
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An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)
The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent Body Count
1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured
1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured
3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops, 3,474 killed in action, 878 in non-combat accidents and 93,552 – 102,083 Iraqi civilians killed, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]
5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.
6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.
7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.
8) UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.
9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.
10) Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops killed in action 614 and 182 killed in non-combat situations as of 10/15/09
Continued below:
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 16, 2009 1:02 PM
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Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:
- Saddam, his sons and major henchmen have been deleted. Saddam's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes.
- Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)
- Libya has become almost civil. Recently Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the victims of their terrorist activities Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “crazies” as they have threatened Libya. OBL sure is a disgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!! Or is he???
- North Korea is still uncivil but is contained. With the opening up of rail traffic between North and South Korea after 50 years and with the assistance of the US Navy in retrieving NK ships and personnel hopefully a fresh sense of civility is afoot.
- North Korea was taken off the terrorist country list recently.
- Northern Ireland is finally at peace.
- The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. Unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “square one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!
- Bin Laden has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.
- Fanatical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanhistan and Pakistan.
- Timothy McVeigh was executed. Terry Nichols will follow soon.
- Eric Rudolph is spending three life terms in prison with no parole.
- Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.
- Islamic Sudan, Darfur and Somalia are still terror hot spots.
- The terror and torture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Radovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war -- charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.
- And of course the bloody terror brought about the Japanese, Nazis and Communists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 16, 2009 1:00 PM
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Pres. Obama has made two moves that advanced the cause of peace as much as any international figure in history.
First he stopped the Dick Bush Cabal attempt to reignite the cold war by placing antiballistic missiles(that don't work anyway) in Poland. This was a straight up aggressive play by DB to funnel a few trillion into the family businesses on a new arms race.
Then, he HAS DEFUSED THE IRAN NUCLEAR THREAT(that was never a threat to anyone but the terrorist state of Israel) by NEGOTIATING...YES F'N IMAGINE...NEGOTIATING with Tehran to allow inspectors back into all sites and sending nuclear material out of the country for processing into fuel grade end product in Russia, thus reducing nuclear materials stockpiles below what would be the lowest threshold to build a bomb.
You morons need to get your news somewhere besides FAUX and the racist Rupert's news groups. And Bradley should move to a Kibutz and denounce his American Citizenship, assuming he is one. He knows all of this, he just makes judgements in favor of Israeli interest over that of the US.
Posted by: ender2 | October 16, 2009 8:11 AM
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Daniel,
BO's race has no effect on me. He is simply another Bill Clinton with one exception, BO honors his marriage vows.
It would have been great if he and his wife had adopted a child but instead they opted to adopt a dog. But there is still time to give a great example for all of us to follow.
Posted by: ccnl1 | October 15, 2009 10:36 AM
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Dear CCNL
If Obama were white, would you feel better about him? Just wondering.
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 15, 2009 7:40 AM
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A Reminder:
BO's backers are the members of the Immoral Majority who put him in the "Blood" House i.e. the 70 + million voting "mothers and fathers" of the 35+ million aborted womb-babies slaughtered since 1973 at a rate of ~one million/year.
Again as a horrid reminder, when BO said "So help me god", he did so as the blood of 35 million dead aborted babies oozed out over that bible.
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Posted by: ccnl1 | October 14, 2009 11:41 PM
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ALLAH AKBAR!
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Thanks CCNL1.
Posted by: diplomat-1 | October 14, 2009 8:32 PM
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Perhaps I am mistaken, but the Nobel Prizes are awarded by a private philanthropic organizaition. Their choices are interesting, and people attribute great prestige to the prize.
It is a great honor for Obama and for the United States. Beyond that, so what?
If Obama were white, there would not be this ugly reaction to our American President receiving such an honor.
Perhaps there is someone else, somewhere in the world who might have deserved it more; perhaps, but the Nobel Committee gave it to him. And I cannot disagree with them that he was a good choice, and I can see why they did it.
Posted by: DanielintheLionsDen | October 14, 2009 9:48 AM
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Reiteration is good for the soul!!!
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Posted by: ccnl1 | October 13, 2009 12:44 AM
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1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
With his penchant for further degrading the morals of this one great nation, the only thing that Obama is good for is his involvement in hastening the coming of the day of the Lord.
Posted by: nikosd99 | October 13, 2009 12:07 AM
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Nobody who snubs the Dalai Lama because the Chinese Communists don't like him, and refrains from advancing gay rights because he thinks most American voters don't like them, is worthy of receiving the Peace Prize.
Posted by: norriehoyt | October 12, 2009 2:16 PM
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Hate to break it to you, Mr. Hirschfield, but this isn't the first nor is it the last time the Nobel committee made a mockery of the Peace prize. As long as the bigot FW DeKlerk and the war criminal Henry Kissinger are still polishing their NPPs, Obama can have his.
Posted by: gillyrosh | October 11, 2009 8:02 PM
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BO's backers are the members of the Immoral Majority who put him in the "Blood" House i.e. the 70 + million voting "mothers and fathers" of the 35+ million aborted womb-babies slaughtered since 1973 at a rate of ~one million/year.
Again as a horrid reminder, when BO said "So help me god", he did so as the blood of 35 million dead aborted babies oozed out over that bible.
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Posted by: ccnl1 | October 11, 2009 12:30 PM
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BEFORE ONE COMMITS ON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, THEY SHOULD KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS TO WIN WHICH PRESIDENT OBAMA DID FULL FILL. HELLO OLD McCAIN.
Posted by: usapdx | October 11, 2009 10:58 AM
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COLORADO DOG:
Ummmm. how Lovely! Limited I.Q's have their borDUM redundant moments too!
MOKING B1RD:
Note: Like [Anti-SECULARist] TONY BLAIR + [Anti-SINGULARist] EBOO PATEL; Both the Dali Lama [Anti-BIRTH] + Desmond Tutu [Anti-Pantheon] & CO., hath "Religious Jealousy Psychosis" and "Pre-Apocalyptic SINdromes +."
Remember: The "RELIGION OF EVERYTHING' before the Science of Everything" is finally Concieved in AMERICA; for ALL the WORLD who Seeks or whom ever want's "IT" [G-D by manymanymany Names; no more by Quran-ical 99 or Geeta-ic 1000 names et al!
-- I'm gonna go-off on a Tangent, buy i [WE] will make REALITY mor clear to Us "HUe{MATE(s)-kinds & not them Jealous HUMAN-Unkinds:
For OBAMA's sake And for the PEOPLE's sake; Something about our O.U.R. "TRANSF{iNITE" Numbers, aka HOLYi Cosmic TRANSF{iNITY". Note that a left curly bracket is between F{i. That's because this Blogg via WAPO is Jealously (Satanically) Run & sensore certain WORDS & PHRASES by Smarter people than them via them CATHAHOLIC via the Vaticans George Town & Berkley Center's run by a bunch of PRE-APOCALYPTIC but veryvery SuperStupidStitious FaCULTy/folk & CO. NOW;
Our Father of the Word "TRANSF{iNITY" is Dovarich/drrrewg/freund "GEORGE CANTOR" [pbuh] 1845-1918. FACT:
REALITY [our; not Theologians); there Exists such a thing as "iNFINITY of INFINITY." (note the lowercase i then upper case I) . Yet the Christians, Muslums, Hindu's, Jews & Buddhists , like the Vatican because of Fear Persecuted him like they did GALALEO [pbuh]... took Brethren Canto's "Transf{inite #'s (Theorm) as a threat to their ABSOLUT-iNFINITY of their NATURE Of (man-made) god(s) System. And
Some Theolgians Even equated his (our) Transf{inite #'s Sets reality, as being "PANTHEISM". Note: Unlike the Peoples Pantheism of HOLLY-WOOD (not holy) of Actors/Actress's & Fantacy-Time sharing or Projecting within/out; means
G-D (as "IT") = ALL, and ALL =("IT") G-D. [hence a PALINDROME]! Yet NATURE aka LAWS OF "iTSELF" (as G-D) is our "CLAUSES" [Seperate from "IT", aka G-D but never a "HE" nor a "SHE" incarnate] in order to "Magnify, Uphold & Make "IT" (G-D, by manymanymany names) Honorable!" WHERE,
Such that that the "UNIVERSE" [Contrary to Theologians idea that their Universe (not ours) is "the sum total of all that was, is and shall be.. as if be SiNonymous"!] is our awareness as being our (not their) Holyi [innate; not man-made] Genuine CONSTITUTION!
Summary: our O.U.R. {o.ne U.niversal R.eligion] is likened to PANTHEISM where such awarenes of our Immortal OURSELVES is NOT/NO THEiSTIc nOR ATHEiSTiC!
Posted by: cyber-man | October 10, 2009 3:55 PM
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Did Obama win the Nobel Peace Prize because he just stiffed the Dalai Lama? Or is it just because he's black?
Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | October 10, 2009 12:48 PM
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the 'liberal media' doesn't fault Obama? It didn't fault Bush -- at first. Maybe it should have.
Posted by: Beck46 | October 10, 2009 11:39 AM
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Comes now the rabid ccnl1 copying JJ's trademark posting style moralizing to the rest of us about killing babies after posting, re-posting, re-pasting and re-posting ad nausem
the Catholic Church's sniveling article apologizing for not defrocking and imprisoning their pedophile priests.
Liberated indeed.
Posted by: coloradodog | October 10, 2009 9:02 AM
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Why blame anyone, Hirschfeld? Is not Obama doing your AIPAC bidding in Iraq and Afghanistan. Would he deserved the peace prize more if he nuked Iran for you? Or is it unfathomable to you that a "cushan" could receive such recognition? This article was unnecessary and reveals much about your bigotry and that of your people as well.
Posted by: coloradodog | October 10, 2009 8:41 AM
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Obama receiving the Nobel prize for peace now is a disaster for the man. He is involved in having to make a decision about the war in Afghanistan--whether to send more troops or essentially give up the war--and now if he acts according to the peace prize he is considered a defeatist President concerning the war--a war he called "the war of necessity" as opposed to the Iraq war. Either he continues to wage the war--in fact increases troops toward such--which makes a glaring contrast with winning the peace prize--or he falls in line with the peace prize and gives up the war, which will be a disastrous mark on the Democratic party, which is considered weak when it comes to having to make the difficult decision concerning war. Again, Obama called Afghanistan the war of necessity--and the Democrats in general for years have been saying under the Bush administration the eye was taken off the ball, so to speak, in the U.S. having invaded Iraq,--and that the U.S. should have concentrated on Afghanistan. So now Obama is faced with Afghanistan and no decisions which are easy to make. Again, the peace prize just makes things more difficult. I do not envy the man his position.
Posted by: daniel12 | October 10, 2009 5:27 AM
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What does it say about the current state of the country when the awarding of a prestigious prize is grounds for "blaming" someone? Why is it that anyone should be "blamed"? Americans with such an instinctive reaction should seriously reconsider whether the Norwegian Nobel committee is actually more level-headed than they are.
Posted by: tesuji | October 10, 2009 4:41 AM
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Nothing is Obama's fault...so says the media.
Posted by: nosam32 | October 10, 2009 1:57 AM
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Nobel peace prize. This is not matter Wether some one is white, black or some other race, it must be consider what he/ she exactly take concrete steps for restoring peace, while the humanity is bitterly crying for PEACE.In perspective of Mr. Obama progress, I however can not make accurate comment, but I think that it is still immature to say that he restore peace in the world, time will be demonstrate that wether his steps, policies, his point of views, his understanding of diffrent issues are right?
Posted by: ainnbeen | October 10, 2009 12:18 AM
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The prize entails and restores America’s leadership role. Can you imagine the committee awarding the peace prize to former president Bush? What a quick turnaround win for America. Many people will argue he doesn’t deserve it. I’d say they missed the point. He became the fourth American president to win the Nobel Peace prize since it’s founding in the 1900’s.
Posted by: Bariir | October 10, 2009 12:03 AM
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I heard only once on the media of the requirements to win the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE and PREDIDENT OBAMA did. Old McCain and others should know them before they commit.
Posted by: usapdx | October 9, 2009 11:34 PM
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This comment may appear to be off topic but let it sink in for a moment.
What if the heavens parted and the Lord God Almighty looked down upon America and said..."I will bring my son back to you for you need his help".
What if Jesus was a black man? Would he be accepted or would he be run-out-of-town? Ask your pastor (and not the one praying for Obama to die and go to Hell).
Would you still consider yourself a christian? Or would you change your religion? Can you really be honest in your response?
Posted by: Taylorsucram | October 9, 2009 10:08 PM
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The Nobel Peace Prize awarded to President Obama was an unmistakable gesture by the committee. The award said several things and most people ( by that I mean the uneducated, idiotic, hillbilly heroin, sexual harassing pundits ) don’t really understand the statement that was made. First of all the Prize is awarded once a year. Understand, you only have to do something really outstanding once in your life, not every year for several years, until you are recognized. You come to the committee’s attention because a former Nobel winner said ‘take a look at what this man did to advance peace in the world’. In other words your peers, those who have previously won the award are the only ones who can place your name in nomination. Secondly you have to beat out a select group of individuals that, because of what they did to promote world peace, are in the running. I would suggest that if you as a black man, won the Presidency of the United States against all odds. In spite of the fact that you were UNELECTABLE. Despite Americas historic and continuing racist attitude. Well give that man a prize because he brought Black, White, Brown, Red and Yellow people together for the common good. And all you nitwits can do is whine.
Posted by: Taylorsucram | October 9, 2009 9:59 PM
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Like I said the Kanye Wests' are trying to snatch the victory and the moment from the winner even before the Pres made his acceptance speech. What a bunch of hypocrites and Jockasses
Posted by: MILLER123 | October 9, 2009 9:55 PM
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This is one of the most absurd comments I've yet to see on the subject.
Conservatives have made predictably partisan, personal, and dismissive comments, but considering the source, their comments are generally inane and essentially irrelevant.
This comment, however, appears to be an argument that giving Obama a Nobel Prize endangers Israel. Even if there were a logical connection to this conjecture, it ill behooves an American citizen to contend that the interests of the whole world are less significant than his conception of Israel's well-being.
Posted by: thmas | October 9, 2009 9:37 PM
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"Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama is probably ridiculous and maybe even shameful, if the award is to have any real meaning."
This statement represents a misunderstanding of reason and the spirit of the prize. The Nobel committee may well be prescient and the critics of their decision shortsighted or blinded by years of cynicism.
Obama has done something that has eluded the world for nearly two decades. He has given people of all nations hope. It is only when there is hope that any meaningful step towards peace can be taken. Cynicism prevented sincere negotiations especially when the most powerful nation was perceived as the instigator of discord. Obama changed that.
The Nobel committee saw this as the best opportunity for an enduring peace and rightly voted to grant the Peace prize to the symbol and embodiment of that hope. I suspect that history will point to this as the moment when the Nobel Peace Prize Award actualized it real meaning and purpose.
Posted by: mgarfieldt | October 9, 2009 9:20 PM
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Wyatte tells me:
“There it is. The world is controlled by the Israel/Jewish lobby. So our country's interests lie with terrorists and murderers of women and children? Got your number.”
What I meant that following the dictates of Israel blindly is not in Israel’s interest and definitely is not in the US interests.
Your assumption that if our interests do not lie in blindly following Israel dictates means that our interest would be with the Islamic Jihadists is illogical. If you follow my posts you would know that I am among the harshest critics of political Islam.
Posted by: abhab1 | October 9, 2009 8:44 PM
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Oooopps, NOTE again: As I explained in an Earlier Post on WAPO somewhere; THAT
The United Nations should Establish a NEW Assmebly/Division in the SECURITY Council called, The "INT'l RELIGIOUS POLICE" and Work together via another Newly established Institution/Part called the "INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS COURT oF JUSTICE". {Based on SECUALR-BASED INT'l Rule of Law].
iMPORTANT: Example: Then Every Nation , can have a "National [SECULAR-Based] RELIGIO TASK FORCE" via "Secret Religious Agents" or Deputized Congregants there at ANY, EVERY & ALL U.S. Mosques, Sinogogues, Temples, Churches, Yishiva's, Madrass etc.. & All Places of ORGANIZEd WORSHIP'.
ANd since Most Major Religions/Affiliates... have Prongs Overseas [Federal Jurisdiction or Have Places of Worship that can act as RELIGIO MAFIA'Sos or Embassy/Fronts to do dirty work or HARM to AMERICANS & Friendly's & like when crossing State Lines or via Commerce violation) Then Any PRIEST, RABBI, IMMAM, Revrend, Preacher, Pastor etc.. Commits any VERBAL or Acsual "CRIME against HUMANITY" will be Brought Front & Center to Face the International Religious Court Located , say In the U.N. in NYC, not only Geneva etal.
2 more Examples: Even though The Roman Catholic Church in the Vatican has a prison somewhere in the Dungen; and that Not Many of their PERPING-PRIESTS was Incarsarated here or there; that i
think I heard Today in the NEWS, that some CLERGY Of GERMANY {PRESYBITERIAN} are being Exposed for their Porochial & CORPORAl PUNISHMENT act/Behaviours, include PEDOPHILIA against Orpahned Children of Post WW2 (From late 40's 50's to late 60's).
Question: Tell me that the Today's POPE Did not Know about what their Presbeterian counterparts aka Brethrens in Religio Clothes was doing???
Oye Vay Mir! Religious Criminality It seems never Ends; yet the "PERPS" some how manage to cunningly "SITUATIONALLY LIE" or "PAY To FORGIVE" their gods fearing Consciousness out of their un-godly Acts against Humanity {kids especialy].!!
Well, NO MORE [Todays Old Time Religion; Tax Free Orgs] WORLD! We will take over now! SO
HISTORY + in 'IT' WE TRUST will be OUR JURY; that is via the National Religious Task Force & the International (Universes) Religious [SECULAR] court.
Heck: Maybe i [WE] will get 2-NOBLE Peace Prize! 1-For the GRIDARIAN DEMOCRACY Paradigm or Movement & 2-For This International U.N. Based International REligious Police concept justly offered this Worlds Citizebary, Aye?
PEACE, PAZ, SHALOM, SALAAM, MIR, AHIMSA, ZHINGU...!
Posted by: cyber-man | October 9, 2009 6:42 PM
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Once the award sinks in, it's really not so bad. I was shocked, but now I'm fine with it. The committee is made up of mere mortals. They don't always get it right. In some ways I can even see their rationale. Maybe it has some wisdom. Obama has handled it well.
What is interesting is the Obama-haters' reaction. Sour grapes all day, led by Michael Steele. The hardcore GOP base is starting to sound like barking chihuahuas. Is that the kind of America they want to offer us at the next election? I hope not.
Posted by: Matthew_DC | October 9, 2009 6:29 PM
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Continued: Part 2 of 2:
ON: Today, The ISLAMIC-SCARE, not only the COMMUNIST-Scare is Real as Apple Pie and Vanilla Icecream! Note: Islamic Zionist & COMMUNIST Zionist are Conspiring against US!
BUT, before the ISLAMICS world from Overseas can Accept to 'Unclench their Hands' or whatever, that The Islamic World here or Islamic UMMAH of America needs More Scrutiny than Ever Before!
Example: If LUIS FRAKHAN (from where Obam comes from), and whom is still alive, could Stand-up (Before He expires: after-all; Obama said Life is too short to be procrastinating Opportunities) should stand-up & Tell the World, that "WHITE CRACKER" or "White Men are DEVILS" etc.. is and was WRONG! And
ALL Every And ANY [AMERICAN] MUSLUM CLERIK, Immam or Leader of their Temples/Mosques should Be Listed for ANY Non-Islamic or Islamic to Know 'Who's Who" [Islamic Theologian LEADERSHIPS] in ALL, EVERY & ANY America's MOSQUES in all 50 states!??
COMMENTARY: Recently (After Obama's Carefull & TEll them Muslums what they need to Hear Speech) that LOCALLY here : N.Y.C & via Colorado, Denver; that suddenly an unknown Muslom IMMAM & UNDERTAKER was a 'Messenger' for Al Quad Operatives and forwarned his Islamic Jihaddist that the FED's was Watching Them [Similar] story..
or See this Breaking NEWS 53 minutes ago {MSN} Today. GENEVA - A nuclear physicist working at the world's largest atom smasher has been arrested on suspicion of links to the Algerian branch of al-Qaida, another blow to a project that has been plagued by glitches and was shut down after a massive electrical failure a year ago."
Hmmm. So the Hadron Collider was an inside Job Then? Or Past Nuclear KNow-how, like Pakistan's Father of their "SUNNY-A-BOMB" Dr. KHAN, to the Islamic UMMAH, i.e., IRAN soon to acquire the "SHIA-B-BOMB" et al, so that they can slow Us Down, Re-Supply , catch-Up and then Invade the West again!?
Point: Can Muslom Mosques & their Prayer House can have A Million GUND/RIFLES, Grinades; maybe holding "Dirty Bombs" etc.. for AL QUADA & those Pro-ISLAM!??
I'm sorry but i [WE] believe that All of America's Muslom Leaderships should be made PUBLIC & if Not (Unwilling to Co-operate with the American-Religio-Police, whom work together with the U.N.'s International Religiuous Police (interpole like) & "Int'l Religio Court Of Justice" thereof) .. Then The American Islamic Ummah Should be "INTERNED" like the Japanese of WW2!
Yes? NO? Else "TAKE, BE READY"!
Posted by: cyber-man | October 9, 2009 5:35 PM
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A Nobel Peace Prize undeserved
As much as admire the man and what he appears to stand for, Obama is still the president of one of the most aggressive martial nation on the planet, which to date has refused to sign the Ottawa Mine Ban Treaty, which aims to eradicate a scourge, which has maimed and killed millions of innocent children, a terror which is still ongoing every day. This treaty has been ratified by 133 countries, but the US has to date refused to do so.
The intention of closing down the most hideous and unlawful institution devised by a western nation since WWII, the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, is laudable, but has yet to be accomplished.
Obama’s fight for universal health care is merely aimed at elevating the protection of US citizens to a level, which has been achieved by almost all civilized nations half a century ago or earlier and cannot lay claim to innovative accomplishment.
The only positive act toward peace completed by Obama has so far been the cancellation of the Missile Defence Shield in Europe and even here critics might argue, that it was budget motivated, rather than intended to reduce tensions.
If you want to name heads of governments in the cause of peace, France’s Jacques Chirac, and Germany’s Schroeder would be more deserving, for not joining in the Iraq adventure, but most of all Canada’s Jean Chretien, who must have been under enormous pressure from a nation, which then counted for 87% of Canada’s foreign trade.
I truly believe, that there must have been more deserving individuals among the other 204 candidates for the price than any of the above. By selecting Obama the Nobel Committee has paid homage to power, rather than rewarded true accomplishment and with that diminished not only the dignity of its members, but also tarnished that hitherto highly respected award.
Posted by: Golestan | October 9, 2009 5:26 PM
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Ooopps.
"... ISLAM Brought [Modern] CIVILIZATION To EUROPE & Contributed to the RENAISSANCE Of EUROpe..."
AND
Obama the "... AMERICAN EMPERER.... "
http://www.cedricmuhammad.com/
PS: Every have a Healthy/Happy SHA-BIZ!
Posted by: cyber-man | October 9, 2009 5:05 PM
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Part 1 of 2:
i [WE] believe there's a Time for Everything & the Norwegians Governors meant Well. Yet
It would've been better to Give the Noble (which could wait for Mr. Obama in other Years, not during his presidency or EKLAH-t forbid Posthumeously) to Our AMERICAN Father/Architect/Prophet/Messenger of the "WORLD FAITH EXCHANGE & GRIDARIAN DEMOCRACY , "HOLY-MIZAn or SUPREME PARATESTAMENT OF THe NEW SONG & The BOOK OF TRANS{FINITY".
Note: ALL that Ye See Today, aka the Handwritings on our Cosmic Spheres, is was foretold & much more to Bring about "GRIDARIAN DEMOCRACY, HEALING OF NATIONS [Singularizing JUDEO-abes + JUDEO-vedics into 1/ek/uno/one Holyi Book] & GeNUINE WORLD PEACE etc..
Strange. The last time i [WE] posted was 10:30Am on Ali Gomaa (Grand-Sunni-Mufti of AEGYPT) entitled, "blog Islam, Modernity & Reform"; and
in between (till now) I've researched his Speech to islam ; yet i was beat by the "GOD IN GOVERNMENT" Folksvia Wilgorin & Wilson & Branign , entitled: "OUTREACH TO MUSLUM WORLD = PEACE-PRIZE":
Interestingly my research brought me to this Afro-American Gifted-Person named, Cedric Muhammad. He was commenting about Prez OBAMA's Cairo University Speech given on 06.04.09.
Please see:http://www.cedricmuhammad.com/mass-mizan-president-obama-invites-the-muslim-world-to-force-him-to-change-us-foreign-policy/
And Cedric Refrences Alot of ELIJAH Muhammads Words.
But then I Found Myself Full Circle, Back to OMAMA's Country via the "NATION OF ISLAM", "UNIA-ACL", "MOORISH SCIENCE TEMPLE" & Names like
"Dr. YAKUB", "WALLACE FARD MUHAMMAD" , "DUSE MUHAMMAD ALI", "NOBLE DREW ALI", "TIMOTHY DREW", "MARCUS GARVEY", "ELIJAH MUHAMMAD", "LUIS FARAKHAN", "AKHAR MUHAMMAD", "MALCOM X"...
What I'm researching is the 'Follow-Up' to Brother OBAMA saying (post Egyp University Speech) that "THERE IS A MOSQUE/TEMPLE IN EVERY STATE..."
What is to be kept in mind is that the "NOBEL Givers" Rightly thought that OBAMAS speech in Cairo was the Main Reason to recieve such an Honorary reward for attempting to Quit & Sooth the World at large & or Usher In PEACE to both ISLAMIc & Non ISLAMIC People/Nations Planet! BUT
Posted by: cyber-man | October 9, 2009 4:56 PM
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I admit to feeling that the Award to President Obama was a curious one, but thinking about it I believe it is a good choice for the purpose of the award.
I can not think of a more dreary and worrisome time vis a vis the US and the rest of the world than during the Bush administration. At the time, we purposefully ignored the rest of the world and went on our solitary, haughty, and bellicose way. The massive increase in ill will thus generated toward the US was gravely destabilizing in all corners of the world, from Old Europe to Russia to the Muslim world to China to Latin America.
That the world took notice of Obama's election and the subsequent shift toward renewing our world citizenship was plainly evident and clearly reduced many tensions, dissipating that ill will to a tangible extent.
Such a change, really made by the American people more than by Mr. Obama, was rightly noticed and appreciated by the Nobel committee.
The Nobel prize is a global award, not an American one. Looking at the world today compared with a couple of years ago, I do see the validity of honoring the man for what his nation has told the world - we are part of you, and not some paramount overlord, apart and superior to all the rest of you. I see the sneering and derision pointed at both Obama and the Nobel committee as primarily sour grapes, but also indicative of the parochial and chauvinistic perspective of Americans, and others, on both fringes of the political spectrum.
Posted by: iampdavis2 | October 9, 2009 4:36 PM
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The Nobel Peace Prize has become nothing more than another instrument of "political correctness."
And just who were the "intellectuals" who nominated this neophyte?
This amounts to awarding "Rookie of the Year" to the number 1 draft pick in the NFL-NBA-MLB-NHL before he evers play a game.
My respect for the Nobel Award has now completely left me.
Posted by: dharper2 | October 9, 2009 3:52 PM
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What does this piece have to do with faith?
They should rename this section "OnLiberalOpinions"
Posted by: bobmoses | October 9, 2009 3:43 PM
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Jason_ellison wrote (among his several hysterical attacks on the President): "That's why we pay him $200+ thousand a year tax free and cover all his cost of living. Also, wouldn't you have like to seen Mr. Obama or the democrat cronies takeing a pay cut along with the rest of the country with the economic downturn we are in????"
Mr. Ellison: Try some fact-checking and find out if George Bush has asked to have his six figure pension reduced for poor performance and awarding contracts to his pals at Halliburton that left our economy reeling and American soldiers dead from corporate incompetence. By the way, the President pays taxes like everyone else and pays his personal expenses not related to his duties as President out of his income. Get over it. Think about the $24,000,000 salary of Aetna's CEO before you go on a rant about income in a recession.
This is a great day for America. The President accepted the award with humility and on behalf of all Americans. That works for me.
Mr. Hirschfield: Arafat, are you serious? A terrorist and murderer, no matter what occasional good impulses came into his head.
Posted by: greyK | October 9, 2009 3:34 PM
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IMO, Obama has already done a lot. For one, he changed the entire way Americans debate foreign policy. And we are the most influential country in the world so the impact is substantial.
Under Republicans, it was cool to trash Europe as socialists, refuse to go along with their initiatives, treat allies like subordinates, act unilaterally, etc. During the campaign, even in the primaries, Obama single-handedly re-centered the entire foreign policy debate to a point where even Republicans wanted to brag that they were hip with Europe.
Obama also won the debate about engaging enemies in talks, and it is starting to pay off. Americans previously were worried about engaging enemies because they were afraid it would give them legitimacy. Obama changed that and it is paying off in Iran as well as with the Palestinians.
I can certainly see why a person would feel like the nobel committee jumped the gun based on 11 days of work. But there is no rule that says they have to base this award solely on work done in an official capacity. So that criticism is without merit.
Posted by: Ibleedburgundy | October 9, 2009 3:30 PM
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Posted by: PurlGurl | October 9, 2009 3:26 PM
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Giving the Nobel Peace prize to Obama at this stage of the game is like giving a highly touted rookie in NFL the MVP award before the first play of the season. Admittedly, highly touted meant he had accomplished something which is more than you can say for Obama.
Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 9, 2009 3:02 PM
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Be real.... For the sake of our free country,Do Not deny the obvious!!! It was awarded to influence him and the decisions to be made in the future. He has shown to ..... well nevermind, I'm done here. Thank you all.
Posted by: 1wayup | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM
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DwightCollins wrote:
I just heard that obama is going to donate the prize money...
that is not his money...
that money belongs to the United States of America...
why don't the morons at the whitehouse read the constitution...
10/9/2009 2:03:42 PM
Posted by: DwightCollins | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM
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Bush actually freed some people and gave them real hope like the girls who can now go to school in Afghanistan. Or do you think girls should not go to school.?
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 2:33 PM
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Rev. Richard Skull said it best - "He got it for not being Bush."
Posted by: SODDI | October 9, 2009 2:32 PM
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Would we have had all this turbulence if Bush was given a Peace prize for the wars he started?
Posted by: fasm7700 | October 9, 2009 2:30 PM
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Please..... I am only stating my first thought opinions. Nobody hear knows me to determine who I am by my few comments here.
Nothing of hatred or negativity in my heart.
Posted by: 1wayup | October 9, 2009 2:20 PM
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NSFROMUSA said: "I bet anyone who is against this in any kind of way are the same folks who supported Bush and all his policies that basically turned the WORLD into turmoil."
You are seriously delusional if you think this. I don't suppose you've noticed that this is the Nobel PEACE Prize, and Obama has maintained the war in Iraq and considerably escalated the war in Afghanistan, while telling the same kind of lies about Iran's supposed efforts to acquire nuclear weapons that Bush told about Iraq? And this is off the topic of war/peace, but if you want to have a realistic picture of how (not) different Obama has been so far from Bush, consider the administration's multi-trillion dollar handouts to the very bankers who got us into this economic mess, while meanwhile doing almost NOTHING to help ordinary working people.
Posted by: meltonj1 | October 9, 2009 2:18 PM
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Oh, my! So many voices crying foul. So many voices thoroughly convinced that they, not the Nobel Committee, know best on what bases the award should be made. May I remind the readers that the Nobel Committee is the decider. Okay?
Posted by: roberthwright | October 9, 2009 2:14 PM
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WITH all due respect.....
GIVE HIM AN OSCAR!!!
President Barack Hussein Obama II is so much more deserving of it.....
Posted by: 1wayup | October 9, 2009 2:14 PM
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abhab1
There it is. The world is controlled by the Israel/Jewish lobby. So our country's interests lie with terrorists and murderers of women and children? Got your number.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 2:06 PM
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Hirschfield:
You do not believe the President deserves this honor because he simply does not seem to be willing to blindly do Israel's bidding, even if that be against the interest of his country and its people.
Posted by: abhab1 | October 9, 2009 2:02 PM
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edar12
Isn't this the man who watched the Palestinian launch rockets at civilians and did nothing? Your omssion reveals your bias.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 1:57 PM
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I can't believe it took them so long to give the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama. He was born over 30 years ago, after all. And since he is receiving the prize for simply gracing the world with his presence, it's long overdue.
Posted by: sam38 | October 9, 2009 1:55 PM
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Out of curiosity, I looked up the list of previous winners. From 1939-1943, there were no winners. In 1944, International Red Cross. In 1945, Cordell Hull who helped found UN. In 1946,Emily Balch, Women's International League for Peace and Freedom.
The people who actually brought peace in those years through hard work and sacrifice were left out. Where were Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, FDR, Churchill, the British people, the American soldier? Sometimes wars have to be fought to bring peace, but somehow those who fight them and sometimes die are not worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize. This shows how much it is worth.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 1:50 PM
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the award is in bad taste, just like politics and the scoundrel politicians of the day all over the world, just as Blair got a Mideast ambassador's post and triggered Gaza carnage, just as the British queen who approved the Iraq war, just as Hamid Karzai and Ahmed Abbas who became employees of the USA, it is in bad shape seeing that this is the man who saw over his shoulders the Israelis massacring the Palestinians and tacitly kept mum.
Posted by: edari2 | October 9, 2009 1:39 PM
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So the award is probably a a reflection of how the rest of the world sees Obama. This country has been so completely polarized by our lovely media to the point that, very few people in America will understand why he got the award. Its not surprising to see that the blogs are all attacking him here in the US for winning, just as it is probably not that surprising to many outside of the US border that he won.
Posted by: Spatula1 | October 9, 2009 1:39 PM
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This is just a blatant attempt at manipulation by the Norwegians.
Posted by: postfan1 | October 9, 2009 1:29 PM
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The award was given to try to tie America's hands in dealing with North Korea and Iran. After all, how can a Nobel Peace Prize winner possibly leave a military option on the table.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 1:23 PM
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The announcement was as ridiculous as the award itself. The recent history of this award has been strictly political and designed to stick it in our face. You do not base an award of this type on speeches and promises of hope and change and empty chants of yes we can. The world has had false prophets before.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 1:21 PM
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Did you even bother to read the award announcement before blasting your condemnation out the door? The committee in fact said the award in this case was given specifically to better position a potential peacemaker. The announcement notes that it awards aspirations more than deeds in this case. The announcement also points out that the peace prize committee sometimes, though not often, does that.
That said, surely bringing about a unanimous UN resolution to disarm the entire world of nuclear weapons is noteworthy? Of course most Americans don't even know about our president's achievement on this front, because it was barely mentioned in what so shamefully passes as the so-called "press" in this country. I read about it in a UK newspaper.
Posted by: CommentByRobin | October 9, 2009 1:16 PM
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The problem is simple. Mr. Obama was barely in office when nominations closed. The only thing the committee had to base anything on were speeches and whatever one's political persuasion, we know what speeches are worth. The fools who say the world is relieved after eight years of Bush are right. The world did not like that we were willing to defend ourselves. The Muslim world did not like that thousands of women, freed by George Bush, were now able to go to school.
Probably true that the prize was awarded as a reaction to Bush. Here America take that in your face. If we have eight years of Mr. Obama our money will be worthless, nobody will want to join the military, taxes will be higher then they ever were and the effort at reparations will be complete. Mr. Obama will have kept his promise to fundamentally transform America in his own image.
Posted by: WyattE | October 9, 2009 1:13 PM
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I've been an Obama supporter since his 2004 run for the Senate here in Illinois. I too was surprised by that he had been given the Nobel Peace Prize. My immediate reaction was that it was an endorsement by Europe of Obama's election win. I hope he lives up to the award and I will continue to cheer him on.
Posted by: minimlst | October 9, 2009 1:13 PM
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It certainly is wonderful, just wonderful,
that our president and the Nobel Peace Prize
found each other after so brief a courtship!
And it is a shame, a crying shame,
that President Obama hasn't been awarded
a Pulitzer price for the books that he,
er, somebody, wrote. Oh wait, he said
that he wrote them, so it has to be true.
Can't there be some way to do the hat trick
and get him an Oscar, too? His acting ability,
and teleprompter reading skills, are certainly
up to the standards of the institution of Hollywood.
Posted by: GBArg | October 9, 2009 1:13 PM
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Umberto3000 you said it yourself "TR won while a sitting president for helping mediate an end to Russia's brief war with Japan" The big factor in that statement was TR did something he didnt sit back in his office and talk about helping he helped.
Posted by: jason_ellison | October 9, 2009 1:12 PM
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I was unaware ACORN is active in Norway.
No doubt Obama was surprised to have a Nobel Prize fall out of his Cracker Jack box.
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Posted by: PurlGurl | October 9, 2009 1:12 PM
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Hey SITLAND we have had a few hundred years of every country trying to oppress this nation and for what envy, their own economical greed, or in many cases ignorance. And yes this country like every other country in the world has made hugh mistakes but because of the previous reason we stand out. Also, its the Presidents job to be diplomatic and to pursue peace.
Posted by: jason_ellison | October 9, 2009 1:10 PM
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Obama's just switching off the dangerous demagoguic Bush-Cheney's politic of perpetual -- and profitable -- schoolboy America vs. everybody deserves him the Nobel. There will be more accomplishments to be sure. TR won while a sitting president for helping mediate an end to Russia's brief war with Japan -- hardly an earthshaking accomplishment at the time, but still well deserving of the peace prize. The two presidents compare well in intelligence and intent opposing pragmatically the vested despoilers of the day, and neither one could be called a peacenik, even though a peacemaker. I'm with NSFROMSA.
Posted by: Umberto3000 | October 9, 2009 1:06 PM
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GET OVER IT!!
He is once again planting the seeds to make the U.S. a world leader instead of schoolyard bully!!
And a schoolyard bully that was too afraid to serve his time in the vietname war,as well as he vice president..
Thats right,bush and cheney..
We lost all respect from the world over the past 8 years under george bush,and most respect from people in this country because of bush as well..
It seems when the world is for bush,the mad-conservatives(who still have not gotten over the presidential elections),would look at that as an honor and would not hint that he is a "rock star",or a "world citizen instead of american citizen",and thats what happened after 9/11..
Who could remember bush with the bullhorn saying that the people who knocked down these buildings will hear us as well??
And,well,what did he do? He invaded iraq.Who,everyone and the mama knows had nothing to do with 9/11,and it made us a heck of a lot un-safer..
President Obama,has the understanding that we are not in better economic times to where we could fight another war "all by ourselves",and he is enlisting more help from the world and our allies,to do more good than harm by creating an alliance and going thru diplomatic channels 1st instead of military channels 1st..
And with all of the jumping up and down that you conservatives did when we lost the 2016 olympics(which could have created more than 250,000 jobs)you made that as a sign the world does not care for OBAMA..
Well,its the opposite..The world and most americans did not,and still don't care for G.W.BUSH!!
The republican spin doctors are already out there spinning that this is political and a slap at george bush..And you know what? As an american,I DON'T CARE!!
The world has to have a way of showing their disapproval of bush,just like you all said the loss of the olympics were a showing of disapproval for OBAMA..AND IT WASN'T..IT WAS A DISAPPROVAL OF ALL THE MISTAKES THAT PRESIDENT BUSH MADE DURING HIS TIME IN OFFICE..MISTAKES THAT HE KNOWINGLY MADE..HE JUST DIDN'T CARE..
AND PRESIDENT OBAMA,DOES!!
THANK YOU MR.PRESIDENT..
AND CONGRATULATIONS!!
KEEP THIS AWARD,AND BUILD ON IT WITH THE WORLD COMMUNITY..
EARL DONELSON,ATLANTA GEORGIA
Posted by: Earl02 | October 9, 2009 1:04 PM
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When I read this article I was slightly offended. I did not want Obama to win the Presidency, but he did anyways. What he's doing in regards to peace and international cooperation is something that no one else has the courage to attempt. Sure, people might have their own ideas about promoting and ensuring world peace, but how many of those people have taken the initiative to do what he has done?
Yes, there will be much speculation about this because people just can't let it go and be happy with the fact that the President of the U.S. is doing something that the world chooses to recognize him for.
If you want to understand why he was nominated, and why he won, look at what he has done for the world in the short time he has been in office. Yes, it seems as if Obama moreso inspires hope and peace by himself and not through his actions, but to be yourself you have to do what you do. I think that even if he just inspires people because of who and how he is, it is still worthy of a prize because he is someone that, at least one person in every country, has hope in. That kind of aspiration is phenomenal.
I don't understand why people feel the need to be so unbelieving and skeptical about his award. I don't understand why people feel that they must compare him with the previous winners. People are who they are and can only do as much as the rest of the world allows them. I think that through all the speculation and hardships thrown at President Obama, he has performed excellently and does what he can (which is all anyone can ever ask of anyone else) to achieve the goals he and the American public have set.
Posted by: Amaya1 | October 9, 2009 1:02 PM
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And no President should ever recieve the Noble Peace Prize. One aspect of their job as President is to try to make our nation and the world a more peaceful place. That's why we pay him $200+ thousand a year tax free and cover all his cost of living. Also, wouldn't you have like to seen Mr. Obama or the democrat cronies takeing a pay cut along with the rest of the country with the economic downturn we are in????
Posted by: jason_ellison | October 9, 2009 1:00 PM
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This is a joke. I have said the same things when I was in college and do I get a noble peace prize for being un-original, because I've heard it all before myself. And yes NSFROMSA Bush made some big mistakes but at least he did something. Obama has talked and talked but his actions are weak and weak minded. And no NSFROMSA I am not a republican. Obama is useing his time as our nations commander in chief to try to get Chicago an olymipics, schools to not take as many snow days, and take terrorist who hate this country and put them in this country. Let's see what else.... oh make us look weak to our enemies (yes NSFROMSA we the USA have enemies), Spend more money per capita than any other president in history, then during and terrible economic downturn try to change our healthcare system that wont cost us a dime (not like the Treasury and presidential accounts have ever been wrong before). This Joe Biden could do a better job than Obama. We need a leader in this country a man who wants to state his values and back them up with ACTION and not one who wants fame.
Posted by: jason_ellison | October 9, 2009 12:57 PM
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Let us not be deceived to think his policies are automatically right, just because the Nobel committee has hope for peace. Nomination deadline was 11 days after he became president.
He has separated our nation by hiding his simple identification documents to show he is lawfully in office.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3714
COURT ORDER FINALIZES SCHEDULE FOR TRIAL!
by John Charlton
(Oct. 7, 2009) - Today was published the Court order resulting from the Oct. 5th hearing in Barnett vs. Obama, issued by federal judge, David O. Carter, in the Southern Division of California.
Charges and evidences, easy court style, are at http://www.divine-way.com; other papers show questionable connections.
A letter to President Obama and DC Attorney on 17 questions that can be answered with simple identity records is at http://divine-way.com/questions_e_mailed_to_president_obama___us_attorney_dc__cd_phillips__7_30_09_.html
Posted by: MarieDevine | October 9, 2009 12:57 PM
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What a shame that U.S. citizens' minds are so polluted by the right-wing noise machine that they do not understand the standing and value of their President to the world. The Nobel Committee made it clear that the award was for Obama's willingness to engage in diplomacy and his intention to pursue peace. The world is relieved after eight years of the opposite from an American president. But I guess the Nobel Committee forgot to clear their choice with Glen Beck first.
Posted by: sitlind | October 9, 2009 12:57 PM
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Regardless of your political, economic, or racial profile -- this is an affront Nobel's will that the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall HAVE DONE THE MOST or the BEST WORK for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
The man hasn't done anything YET! In fact as commander in chief of one of the largest armies in the world with military bases in 50+ countries and an armed force which are still killing innocent people abroad (and certainly not with purpose)as well as enemy combatants and in giving military aid to other countries so that they too can keep on killing too -- doesn't make sense to me. The Nobel Peace prize has nothing to do with PEACE!
Posted by: CadronBoy | October 9, 2009 12:53 PM
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I believe that the vote to award this prize to President Obama is in equal measure a vote against the Bush/Cheyney approach to international relations, as well as a message to other leaders: Focus on diplomacy rather than force and threats of force. The saddest thing is that diplomacy and civility have so deteriorated that even saying this is your preferred approach is notable enough to win an award.
Posted by: inner_vision | October 9, 2009 12:52 PM
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"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world’s leading spokesman."
Nothing like turning the page on "W.'s" version of working toward peace...
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
Not to go unmentioned that President Obama's team got more concessions out of Iran in 7 hours of diplomacy than all eight years that Bush spent sabre rattling and vilifying the Iranian regime.
Posted by: BenAMarine | October 9, 2009 12:51 PM
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Mockery. He had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline for nomination passed. He had said, and done, nothing.
Posted by: JWMeritt | October 9, 2009 12:51 PM
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My Jewish UCLA Professor friend spoke of the extremist radicals in Israel. Einstein stated in a letter recently auctioned that the bible was a collection of primitive legends. He said believing in God was childish and he as a Jew is no different than another person … not chosen by God. Do you want to be lambs at the slaughter or be wise and reject religious cultist manipulation? Mean & nasty; run by evil and bogus religious cults from Rome or wherever. Is this the world you want? The pope talks about ending prejudice and hate; what a hypocrite! Religion is a crutch for the insecure. Appreciate every day and if there is no tomorrow; then know that you were fortunate to have lived!
Posted by: MacDonald1 | October 9, 2009 12:50 PM
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good for him! congrats Pres Obama well deserved!
Posted by: avarrecchia1 | October 9, 2009 12:49 PM
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Obviously the world and former Noble Peace Prize recipients think President Obama deserves this honor.
Why do some Americans think so little of our President? Why do they try to diminish each and every accomplishment he makes and turn it into a negative?
We as Americans should be thankful that the world is looking at America in a better light this year.
If, as an American, you can't be proud of what the rest of the world thinks of your President, at least have the courtesy of keeping your negative opinions to yourself.
Posted by: gregschmitt31 | October 9, 2009 12:49 PM
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Now; if he could stand up for equality for gays. Didn't Thomas Jefferson say that church and state should be separated by a wall and it's written in the Constitution that there must be separation of church and state. Bigotry and hatemongering against gays should be banned. Tell them to take that cross and shove it where the sun don't shine ... and pay their taxes along the way before they take that cross down forever ... with its final station; extinction. It is written; so therefore it shall be? We are the chosen people? Such a wicked fantasy. United States is supposedly fighting for democracy? It is suppressing gay rights and following an extremist religious & bigoted family values path according to a basic cult riding roughshod over the rights of gay people. Canada and Britain are more civilized with its military and basic dignity. We must respect that these fine dignified gentlemen … His Excellency Governor Schwarzenegger, The Honorable Attorney General Jerry Brown, His Excellency Mayor Gavin Newson, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano & The Honorable Rep. Barney Frank (D) who is personally openly gay … are trying to guarantee equal rights and reflect the respect shown to all; as stated in the American Constitution. To see the religious lunatics manipulate government and our lives … is shameful. Gay rights must be given in Washington.
Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien told the Vatican that there was to be no cross erected over the Canadian Parliament buildings … figuratively speaking; when the Pope demanded the Prime Minister go against gay rights. An Alberta bishop had the audacity to say that The Canadian Prime Minister would go to hell for going against the church. Such outrageous evil threats. The Right Honourable Prime Minister … in return; basically told the Pope to go to Hell. The Honourable Irwin Cotler, Canadian Minister of Justice, stood for equal rights for the gay community. With reference to protecting the children. The Honourable Hedy Fry, member of the Canadian Liberal Parliament, who happens to be a doctor who delivered many babies; spoke eloquently to defend the rights of babies being born and stated that she was in fact defending their rights by speaking on behalf of equal rights for the children and youth of the future -- defending their integrity and dignity.
Posted by: MacDonald1 | October 9, 2009 12:47 PM
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I completely agree with IREMEMBER. It is a wonderful news that Obama got the Nobel Peace Price. He does bring a whole new outlook and approach to the international cooperation and negotiation scene. Many of the analysts expressed views rather narrow minded, nearsighted and focused only on American short term interests. It is dismaying but it also reflects the reality that those are characters ingrained in our human nature. However, this award shows the world as a whole does appreciate a more positive and holistic view for the common interest of the world community. It is inspiring to see once in a while that long term interest for the whole triumphs over the short term gratification.
Posted by: firework | October 9, 2009 12:47 PM
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voted for Obama... yeah, right. So it's the American people that should get the prize? Who do you think best represents the American people, Brad? Here is a chance for the right to display their self-proclaimed patriotism by 1) accepting the fact that Obama is their president and 2) rallying around their president at a time of great honor for America. Instead we get more cynicism and mockery from the party of NO. Who unpatriotic now? And this is from somebody who voted for McCain ;)
Posted by: nickwiley | October 9, 2009 12:46 PM
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Thanks, Brad for the title of your article. With the war in Afghanistan going on, and with plans to continue, there is no misunderstanding. Is it, then, Mockery? Absolutely! The Nobel Prize to Baraq Obama at this stage of his presidency is definitely a fluke. If not now, at some point of his life, or later when he write his memoirs, he will definitely admit that he was surprised by the unexpected award, and that he did not really deserve it because he has not achieved anything as of NOW! He might achieve a lot later, and he may become a historic figure, but at this juncture a Nobel Prize is certainly a cheapening factor to the Prize itself.
Obama should, in my opinion, reject to accept the prize. And if he does, he can probably place himself in the level of people that do accept something of value - if they do not deserve it. And that stance would probably raise his moral and ethical status, because accepting the Prize now would definitely create laughing anecdotes, and derisive jokes for the comedians on a global scale.
Is there any precedent of someone with high ethical standards and moral values that rejected the Nobel Peace Prize because he thought he did not deserve it? Sure. And the best that comes to mind is the rejection of the Nobel Peace Prize by Le Duc Tho in 1973, that he was supposed to share with Henry Kissinger who accepted it. Le Duc Tho was the North Vietnamese negotiator who tried to negotiate peace with Kissinger -then U.S. Secretary of State- in Paris, France. But the negotiations didn't produce any agreement,
or any peace records, and Le Duc Tho thought, therefore, a Peace Prize for a peace that was never reached by negotiations, was NOT DESERVED! Le Duc Tho was launded in Asia for refusing the undeserved peace prize, and the Nobel Prize Henry Kissinger accepted
was ridiculed in many nations as a worthless peace of paper by some pro-Western members of the Peace Prize Committee. There were comments around the globe that time that the Peace Prize was awarded by pro-Western members of the committee to mask the U.S. defeat in the Vietnam war as "a peace negotiated withdrawal!"
I have no doubt that there will be criticism around the globe about the award of the Peace Prize to Obama, and the 1.5 billion Muslims would definitely see the award as a laughable award gesture by Westerners for Westerners for a Peace that is not only non-existent, but also the recipient continues the war against them! Nikos Retsos, retired professor
Posted by: Nikos_Retsos | October 9, 2009 12:45 PM
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Thanks Nobel, America needed a good laugh.
Posted by: Bubbette1 | October 9, 2009 12:44 PM
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A President, who, as we speak, is prosecuting two wars is hardly the beacon of Peace.
I like Obama, but this is a travesty.
Then again, given that they doled it out to Arafat and Kissinger in the past makes it vaguely not out of character.
Posted by: HumanSimpleton | October 9, 2009 12:43 PM
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Relax NSFROMSA....Your reaction to my comment is so narrow. You don't know me, It is only me sharing my reaction to the news. Why are you so defensive?
Posted by: 1wayup | October 9, 2009 12:33 PM
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I'm with you. Obama's accomplishments are so very minimal, that to put him in the same category as Ghandi and Sister Teresa is a mockery of this wonderful prize. Must be the fix is in.
Posted by: snoocks2 | October 9, 2009 12:31 PM
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obama could have declined the honor...
he know he doesn't deserve it...
and with the country being the way it is...
he should be ashamed...
this president can't seem to spend a whole week behind the desk in the oval office, he has to fly off to get his behind kissed by one party or another...
Posted by: DwightCollins | October 9, 2009 12:29 PM
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People like you all have problems. I bet anyone who is against this in any kind of way are the same folks who supported Bush and all his policies that basically turned the WORLD into turmoil. What you all fail to realize is that Pres. Obama was up against the odds when he announced his plans to run for president. He faces the firing squad everyday and you all hold the guns. But guess what, he tried to be bi-partisan and still is open to the ideal. But all you prosecuters and judges closed that channel. So just face reality, whatever you say won't change the fact that he is in office. He has met with leaders of other countries that neither Bush bothered to look at. Even on the television. So please keep coming with the negativity because it makes him and supporters like me work harder.
Posted by: nsfromsa | October 9, 2009 12:27 PM
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I apologize for laughing out loud at hearing the news this morning. I was surprised and not surprised at the very same moment...
Posted by: 1wayup | October 9, 2009 12:22 PM
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Depends entirely on your political prejudices as to your reaction. I think it speaks to the aspirations and dreams of those of us who supported him, helped him get elected, and continue to wage a campaign for reconciliation between warring camps. President Obama is universally admired for his ability to listen and understand those who oppose him. He is a model of a leader who has the fortitude and conviction to accept a world of imperfection yet strive to make it better within the limitation of a very imperfect humanithy. Peace to America and the world!!
Posted by: truthseeker13 | October 9, 2009 12:19 PM
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whining because you disapprove is one thing. attempting to justify your rant by using things like the race card really shows how little you have to offer and leads to a larger question:
why is the washington post pandering to someone with so little insight?
Posted by: jakiamik | October 9, 2009 12:17 PM
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I'm sure I could think of other reasons for giving him the Nobel prize, but here are some reasons. Not putting the missiles in Poland that threatened to escalate the very dangerous antagonism of the Russians. Here's another, scaling back the illegal war in Iraq. And yet another, a President willing to talk to other countries rather than the previous one that acted like a drunken frat boy in his dealings with other countries. How about this one, stopping the illegal rendition of citizens from other countries without legal representation. You Republican wingnuts don't surprise me one bit with your uneducated idiotic hissy fits over him winning.
Posted by: IRemember | October 9, 2009 12:13 PM
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I'm certainly as surprised as anyone. There will be speculation a plenty on why President Obama was chosen for the award, and I have my own.
Obama represents a new opportunity for the world to manage our issues with a diplomatic approach, using multilateral decision matrices instead of the unilateral tendencies of the past. While there is still much distrust of American intentions, there is now hope that we are entering into a new era of progress toward resolution of the many challenges we face.
In the end, this is their award to give as they please, and I trust Obama to recognize its receipt with appropriate humility.
Posted by: DaryleQ | October 9, 2009 12:11 PM
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All I want to know is who nominated him? That's the real question.
Posted by: hig27 | October 9, 2009 11:56 AM
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Daniel, Daniel, Daniel,
You apparently are obsessed with BO's initials and its hidden meaning. Again, BO named his dog BO and I believe his iPhone was registered under BO so obviously BO has no problem with his initials. Ditto for those with initials that have possible other meanings e.g. BM, BS, OB, FU, FO, BB, GEY, PMS, PP.
And once again, presenting the reality of the 2008 Presidential election is not being rude or racist. It is simply being honest i.e. BO won the election because of the largest demographic in the country i.e. the "Immoral Majority" i.e. the "mothers and fathers" of 35 million murdered babies in the womb.
And btw, I am also a very nice person supporting 50 charities to include the local Mother's Home.
And again, it sure would be a great example to the global community if BO and his wife would adopt a child or even children. GB/LB failed in this regard. BC/HC should also have adopted a child or children but obviously BC had other pursuits.