Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies, American University
“On Faith” panelist Akbar Ahmed holds the Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University. He is a former High Commissioner of Pakistan to Great Britain and has advised both Britain’s Prince Charles and U.S. President George W. Bush on Islam. Ahmed’s numerous books, films and documentaries have won awards and been translated into many languages including Chinese and Indonesian. Ahmed has worked to increase interfaith understanding, most prominently touring with Judea Pearl, father of slain Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, to speak about the necessity of tolerance. Ahmed was the first Muslim to lecture at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. He is a senior fellow at The Case Foundation in Washington, D.C. He spoke at the Chairman’s Distinguished Speakers Lecture Series at the Pentagon and gave the inaugural lectures for the first Chair in Jewish-Muslim Studies at the University of Illinois-Chicago. In 2005 he was finalist—along with Judea Pearl--in a competition for “Most Inspiring Person of the Year” run by www.beliefnet.com.
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Akbar Ahmed
Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies, American University
“On Faith” panelist Akbar Ahmed holds the Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University. He is a former High Commissioner of Pakistan to Great Britain and has advised both Britain’s Prince Charles and U.S. President George W. Bush on Islam.
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Ignorance is not bliss, nor does it make you know anything more if you do know a little bit about something.
In truthfulness we, the muslims-- Islam, believe in Isa/ Jesus as you christians call him. But I will not sugar coat it by saying we believe he is divine or reverie him as soully being divine. We take Jesus as a prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) and let that be known. The same way we take Prophet Muhammed (PHUB), Moses, Aaron, Solomon, Zakariah, Abraham (PHUT), and the others as prophets. There is no real difference amongst them; they were all given the same message to worship God (Allah in arabic, which means god), and God alone. They were each given signs. Moses with the ability to part the sea, Solomon to talk to the animals, Jesus with capability to bring back the dead or heal the sick, Muhammed to the Angels. And they were all tested in their faith differently. Jonas being swallowed by the whale, Jacob through sickness and the lose of his sons, Joesph through the separation of his family and beauty, Jesus through the disbelief from the people he was sent to (Which you read the bible explains he was sent to the Jews, not all of mankind), Muhammed through exoneration and no sons.
We do not have to get a point, just as you do not get our point. This is something we believe in and are supposed to believe in as it is within the Qu'ran.
"Say (meaning the muslims, who are considered the believers within Islam), Oh you Kaferuns--disbelievers, You will not believe as I believe. And I will not believe as you believe..." --Suratul Kaferoon, verse 1-3.
And thus we shall not. Yes we take the bible as a book, just as we take the Torah( the book of the jews) as a book, but we believe in the orginal text, not the refound ones.
For the one who thinks he knows the Qu'ran so well, and that we doom all disbelievers as being sent to hell. In the Qu'ran suratal Baqarah-- There are several verses which talk about the priest who will go to heaven, for being monotheist and believing in the oneness of god-- alone I repeat. We don't condemn everyone, for we do not have that capability-- the Qu'ran repeats this many times in several different surahs, but you would have to have memorized them to know this or see this.
Again, as I said, you can not fight something or talk about if your argument is mostly ignorant, and you yourself have never studied islam.
You are only fighting with the same ignorance you speak about, by hear-say, in the same tongue you are taught with, and with the adequate-- at best--based knowledge you do have on the subject. You can not fight islam with, nor the Qu'ran, with the Qu'ran, because there are too many other things you have not read within it, then which text did you read in translation. And also you must remember the fact that you are reading "a Translation" not the original text it was written in...
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peace be upon all the Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters please use this URL between brackets (http://www.islam101.com/history/people/prophets/Jesus/index.htm)to learn more about what us Muslims think about Jesus(peace be on them).
We muslim belives in Allah Almighty , and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no difference between one and another of them. And we submit to Allah.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last and final prophet of Allah.
Jesus Christ is not the son of God, how come God have son, if HE does not have any Wife ?
I suggest to all christiants who have the desire to think to read the Holy Quran first, and then comment on something.
The article set here was read, and I appreciated its content. I am not surprised that Sufis especially are spiritually attune to the Isa story. They have often sought through much prayer and ascetic living the spiritual beauties of Faith, all religious can learn from the Sufis.Many profound Christian writers have spoken fondly of Sufi poets and writers. Christian clergy crossing all denominations have commented favorably of Sufism as a whole, as being the Mystical avenue into spiritual revelation. More Muslims should read the Sufis, they would be more understanding of the Christian expression of individual salvation and revelation. However many Muslims are as anti-Sufi as they are anti-Christian. Muslims believe strongly in submitting their will to Allah(GOD). They as the Jews of old who were obsessed with the canonical LAW lacked the whole picture given them in scripture to allow God(to put His Law into their hearts by the Spirit) which means literally that God empowers the believer to live the letter of the Law, because the Lord gives the enabling strength to fulfill the demands of the Law by the Spirit. We in our own selves can never live righteously and to discipline our walk in the Law. The Law shows us how inept we are to follow it totally.God wants us to see our own frailities so that we can in fact see His Glory, and seek His purification.Even the prophet Isaiah wrote about the Servant who would cleanse man from their transgressions. Jeremiah wrote about the heart being wicked, and man reasoning with God to be made whole. The prophets knew that God's cleansing power was Whiter than Snow, and made as wool.Our sins would be relinquished and grounded into the dust of forgetfulness. Islam naturally teaches that Muhammad is the seal of the prophets, but the truth is they missed Jesus in the process. To Meet a Savior who washes us whiter than snow, and return to a cold relationship with God, never knowing if we are truly forgiven or not makes no sense. Believers after the Apostolic age found great satisfaction in the power of the Gospel message. They were made the friends of Jesus through repentance and forgiveness of sins, they understood the whole reason for the cross, death and resurrection of Jesus. Centuries later a man named Muhammad claims that is all wrong and he has the final story. The Qu'ran although stating that Allah is all-knowing and all-compassionate, never really addresses the age old human condition of malady;SIN, the wickedness of the heart, the seduction of Satan and so on. The Bible mentions with clarity both the condition of Sin, its travesty, and also the Cure. Now Muhammad claims that the Cure is wrong and the Christians have exceeded the Limits. How can a Muslim truly know what the Injeel is if they are told that the Book is full of deceptions and lies? Isa is not a reality in the Qu'ran, because his story is adapted from the lies of the New Testament. The unity Jesus may offer in the three monotheistic religions, is truly clouded,however it is not because the Jews and Christians will not accept the Isa of the Qu'ran, but rather the Muslims will never accept the Isa of the Book the Bible.We already see Him as a prophet, a messenger,a submitted Servant, the son of Mary in the virgin birth, and the one who initiated change in the attitude of the Jews,toward GOD.We can and are able to separate the divine from the Fleshly mission of Jesus. We see Jesus as a reformer, a fund-raiser,political activist, a humanitarian, and a peace-maker.More so, we see Jesus as the fulfillment of the LAW.Jesus has taught us how to submit to God, as I am sure Muslims find that hard to believe. You probably are wondering why I said fund-raiser? Simply Jesus spoke much about money, and man's inability to use it wisely. He did encourage his followers to give with great enthusiasm, without complaining to increase the kingdom of God. I am personally against much of Tv Evangelism that pleads for money, the problem is they have an audience who follow them, and naturally they must be funded by their audience, nevertheless I am appalled by their gimmicks as you most likely are.Thank you for your time. DAN.
Let educate you, Issa is in Arabic and Yassoa that's Hebrew, unfortunately many christians do not like to read Bible. Plese provide me where Juses said, I'm God worship me?...but I can find where he said that he is going to his father who is our father too.
I found the article by Dr. Ibn Khaldun both misleading and insulting to Christians. For someone who is living in the West for such long time and who is unable to grasp the basic concepts of Christianity is shocking. To quote someone or some book of 1400 years olds which is filled with confusion and misunderstanding of Christian faith tells you volumes about the future of interfaith and multicultural which include Muslims in the West.
Mohamed did NOT even got Jesus name right in his Quarn by calling Him Isa instead of his real name in Arabic which is Yassoa.
Islam did not save Mohammed from controlling his passion for power and control over the none-believers, so why should any one believe him or his god.
Mohamed utters blasphemy on the Son of God and on all Christians and Jews. Even his greatest hero Abraham was called Hanifa “Muslim” (not a Jew or a Christian), while if he had know Syrian, he would have realized that he called Abraham a pagan.
As much you insult Christ with your ignorant of its teaching, you also showed ignorance of the Islam because you could not understand its pagan root of worshiping towards a stone in the middle of an ancient idol temple called Mecca.
Akbar Ahmed is absolutely right: Jesus was a unifying force just as Mohammed and Buddha were. Their message was universal oneness as opposed to the tribalism that leads to wars and is expressed by many who have commented here. Unfortunately, because our tribalism served us for so long it has become so deeply entrenched we can only distort the messages of these great teachers. In an era of globalisation where we are all closely juxtaposed and inter-connected, we desperately need to properly understand these ancient teachings in order to transcend our now dangerous atavistic tribal instincts.
yo go 2 www.creationapologetics.org/editorials/islamsmohammed.html dude totaly did sum homework i wuz waitn 2 hear.i watch programs on islam saying its peaceful tolerant non-supersticius equality 4 women and we call god a bastard but they call god a sinner & a infidel.if sin is so bad that it deserves death then how is being supersticious and playing ring around the religion gunna get u into heaven?to sugest that god can forgive without paying the debt is calling god a welcher unholy unjust no wonder muslims look holy on the outside and rotten on the inside just like the pharacies jesus rebuked.no wonder muslims are decieved or full of malace the sin issue is unatoned for so superstion and oppresion abound and why we are redeemed and free from it.we all fall short of gods glory.muslims ask god 4 mercy which tempts god 2 do evil cuz he wants salvation 4 us but not @ the expence of his holyness,but followers of jesus get mercy
& justice which satisfies gods will 2 b mercyful and justified.religion plays on humans nature 2 put god in a box and contain him just like they do in mecca bowing 2 a big black box in the midle of that big religios stadium if god is contained then the sinfull man doesnt have 2 change just look the religios part and perform rituals ie.dead works.they say that islam is being hijacked now a days i find that funny that a hijacker got hijacked.mohammed hung round jews and christians and twisted thier truths withch have caused the world nutting but grief thanks mohammed!jesus died for us what did mohammed do 4 u?jesus valued all life love thine enemies not mohammed.the word kill is used more than the word pray in the quaran do tell.pray 5 times what if u used them up and need 2 ask gods guidence call back tomorow allah is sleeping in his big black box in mecca?satan tricked moammed into thinking he wuz having sex 4 a whole year jesus ate satan 4 lunch under adverse conditions.binladen and others make lil videos making threats who are they aspiring to act like?,thier hero mohammed bin laden acts exactly like him cuz that wuz his style and exact way of doing things.do we want beheadings,cutting off limbs as law we aint under the law jesus fullfilled the law so we can obtain mercy ritiously not religiosly.
All that stuff about Christ in the quran is what Mohammad heard from nestorian christians who lived around arabia. Nestorian believed the true christ was not killed but a lookalike was killed in his place and the same can be found in the quran. Christ and other jewish prophets are included to make Mohammed look legitimate, in reality he is the profit of Satan.
Victoria ( a revert to islam): please provide your testimony here and perhaps you'll be more successful where other muslims have failed to answer question regarding your faith.
Sorry to say so, but Big Bang is right. It's lip service. Saying PBUH after someone's name ... wow, great form of respect. How about actually obeying him? Wouldn't that be a little more respectful? So how do you obey Jesus? Well, you could do what Mohammed said to do--test everything by the Bible. If Muslims actually did that, they'd see that a lot of what they've been told by the imams (sorry, that's a fact too, most Muslims don't read the Qur'an for themselves) flies in the face of the Bible. And none of this "the Bible has been corrupted" rot. It's exactly the same as it was in Mohammed's time, so why was he telling people to test his teachings against it if it were already corrupted? I have yet to hear a coherent response from anyone on that point.
BIG BANG:
Obviously, Akbar Ahmed is a good disciple in implementing his prophet Muhammad’s survival tactic of misrepresenting Islam as a peaceful and tolerant religion, especially in times when the enemy is in the upper hand (as Akbar Ahmed is now in the United States). But WAIT, until he (and the Muslims) gains the upper hand! Then, he will follow his prophet Muhammad’s teaching:
"Those who disbelieve and debar others from Allah’s path and in the end die as unbelievers shall not be shown forgiveness by Allah. THEREFORE DO NOT FALTER OR SUE [or call] FOR PEACE WHEN YOU HAVE GAINED THE UPPER HAND" Mohammad 47:34
This all-too-well-known treacherous tactic is also manifested in Akbar Ahmed’s lip-service that “Jesus is considered a great prophet by Muslims. Indeed Jesus is a focal point in the Quran. He is mentioned more often in the Quran than even the Prophet Muhammad. The Prophet himself said that there is no one closer to Jesus in love and reverence than him.”
To prove that this is just a lip-service to deceive his the enemy, let us see what the overwhelming parts of the Quran really teach about Jesus and Christianity, such as:
“And the Jews say, ‘Ezra is the son of ALLAH,’ and the Christians say, ‘the Messiah is the son of ALLAH;’ that is what they say with their mouths. They only imitate the saying of those who disbelieved (kafaroo) before them. ALLAH's curse be on them! How they are turned away. They have taken their priest and their monks for lords besides ALLAH. And so have they taken the Messiah, son of Mary. And they were not commanded but to worship the One God. There is no God but HE. Holy is HE far above what they associate (yushrikoona) with Him! They seek to extinguish the light of ALLAH with their mouths; but ALLAH refuses but to perfect HIS light, though the disbelievers (al-kafiroona) may resent it. HE it is Who has sent HIS Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, that HE may make it prevail over every other religion, even though the idolaters (al-mushrikoona) may resent it.” Surah 9:28-33
Akbar Ahmed certainly would not be able to deny that we, Christians, have been unambiguously defined by Muhammad as UNBELIEVERS that should be punished, since this is what the Quran says:
"Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished." (Surah 5:73)
In many parts of the world today, especially in third-world countries where the western or Christian civilization has not been firmly established, the Muslims are fighting vigorously and violently a (further) spread of Christianity by relentlessly attacking the main pillars of the Christian faith, i.e., the Trinity essence of God and that Jesus is the Son of God (see Surah 9:28-33 cited above). Whereas in the United States and Europe, where Christianity is in the upper hand (still!), the Muslims keep using Muhammad’s treacherous lip-service of praising Jesus, even seeing in Jesus “a great potential source of unity between the Abrahamic faiths.” Why is this tactic treacherous and such uttering just a lip-service? Simply because the Muslims HOPE that Christians would not know what is truly taught by the Quran, and what the Muslim community really thinks about Jesus. To better reveal Akbar Ahmed’s falsehood, I recommend all Christians to read and study the al Quran themselves, instead of simply believing in false and treacherous interpretation uttered by their harbingers like Akbar Ahmed. Only by studying the Quran ourselves would we see the real truth that Jesus is a (great) potential of DIVISION between the Abrahamic faiths, i.e., by finding out that Jesus is one of the main issues which distinguish the Jewish, the Christian and the Islam religions one from another.
The only great potential for unity among widely differing faiths in the world is REASON, since reason is the only means of communications that is the same for all human beings.
1. Say: He is God,the One.
2. God is He on Whom all depend.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. And there is none co-equal or comparable unto him.
16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.
17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."
19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed."
22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.
23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"
24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, 'I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being'"
27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"
29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;
32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!
34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.
36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight.
No muslim claims to know who goes to heaven or hell, yest me-
there was a woman who dressed in islamic fashion- prayed on time 5 times a day and to all outward appearances seemed to be the perfect muslim- but she had a cat that she kept tied to a post and did not even allow it to find food or drink for itself- so the cat died. Then the woman died. She went to hell.
there was another woman who was a jewish prostitute, and she came upon a dog that was dying of thirst. she took her shoe and filled it with water and gave it to the dog. when she died she went to paradise- for that ONE SMALL ACT of compassion.
see how great is the mercy of ALLAH?
one would assume that because the lady was 1) jewish- 2) a prostitute that she would not go to heaven- 2 strikes against her if you will- according to what people IMAGINE that muslims believe.
do you understand better that none of your questions make sense in this context?
no one can claim to have this knowledge- only ALLAH judges- not people.
Given that Jesus was the child of a supernatural being, was that being a god or a devil? Devils are bad gods. Good gods are angels.
Test:
1. Sgt John M Stryker of the Marines during the battle for Iwo Jima, WW2 said, "lock and load. Now send them to_____________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
2. Later Sgt Stryker was shot and killed by a Japanese soldier. Sgt Stryker went to____________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
3. 9-11-2001, 19 young men hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings. over 3,000 people died. The 19 that hijacked the plandes went to___________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
4. All others that died 9-11-2001 went to___________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
If you answered the above questions the way those involved answered them then you shoud know why is there a global religious conflice. Now we can get to the first question, what variiety of supernatural being fathered Jesus?
5. God wants____________.
(a) peace
(b) war
6. Devils want____________.
(a) peace
(b) war
Now we can ask a few more question.
7. God is_______________.
(a) weak, puny
(b) almighty
9. God needs people to do God's work?
(a) yes
(b) no
10. Devils need people to do their work?
(a) yes
(b) no
11. In the tale about Lucifer taking over heaven Lucifer wanted to be worshipped, honored, adored and glorified?
(a) yes
(b) no
12. In the Lucifer tale did God want to be worshipped, honored, adored and glorified?
(a) yes
(b) no
At this point you must know that proving the existence of God is irrelevant. It's our perception of God that includes all the attributes of Devils that counts. Small wonder there is global religious conflict. All the Gods are puny Devils that must have men who assume God will send their enemies to hell to do their voilent dirty work. Devils want people to be in hell with them. It's so much fun for them to stick hot pokers in their eyes. Don't you imagine?
Think about it when you prostrate yourself before your God. Is it really God? Why does God want people to kill, mame, cripple, wreck each other's lives? God doesn't but the Devil does. The big money goes to those who lead others to hell and it's coming from the tax payers in the good old USA. Merry Devilmas and a new year filled with global religious conflict.
While I agree this may help to unite some Christians and Muslims -- it really does nothing to help build understand for either with Jews.
In some cases the view of Jesus will also deepen the divide between Christians and Muslims. If someone really believes that Jesus is THE WAY and everything else is false -- there is no way to build bridges. The only option is for everyone to convert to Christianity.
It's only if we all see religion as a way and equally valid paths that we can find common ground and stop the endless fighting in the name of God.
Why do you suppose there's "a global religious conflict?"
You may have explained it with a fact unknown to most Americans, Jesus is a star of a sorts in the Quran. If not explained then at least Jesus puts all belidgerants in the same ball park, the Bible, the common thread that unites. The same thing is true for Mormons and known by most Americans, their God comes from the Bible. Does Jesus unite or divide?
Is the Jesus God or prophet a God or prophet of peace or conflict? Perhaps the identification of Jesus in the written in stone historical record will help us decide.
But then interpretation 1501, http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul is a better reason for conflict. Muslims do believe there is a hell where infidels go do they not? The problem is separating God from Devil. Don't you agree? Is there another path to world peace, an end to "global religious conflict?"
Question. When a jihad warrior, in error or otherwise, kills himself and a few enemies of Allah what happens to Allah's enemies? They go to hell don't they? How sure are Muslims that's so? What if all go to a new world where God is no more present than God is here present? Have Muslims thought that one through? Maybe Allah, Jehovah, Trinity, et al are really the Devil that wants people in hell? Ever give that any thought?
Global religious conflicts play right into the Devil's hands do they not?
THANK YOU BROTHER AHMED- You have made a compelling and inspired statement that is honey for my ears.
I was a practicing christian before i became a muslim, and never really learned the extreme respect
for Jesus(ata) as a christian that i have in islam.
We respect and love him so much that we can never even say his name without adding peace be upon him, if thats not love, what is?
Indeed muslims love and revere Jesus(pbuh)
I was surprised when i learned that the most beloved and cherished woman in islam is Mary(may ALLAH bless her) the mother of Jesus(ata).
I had just supposed it would be the wife or maybe daughter or mother of the Prophet(swa).
See how you have touched the hearts that can be touched?
lovely.
peace
Gotta go with (Christion Perspective) on this one. He/she is right, the muslims are missing the point. I feel sorry for you Burton, all I can do is pray you find Jesus, he is the way.
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Ignorance is not bliss, nor does it make you know anything more if you do know a little bit about something.
In truthfulness we, the muslims-- Islam, believe in Isa/ Jesus as you christians call him. But I will not sugar coat it by saying we believe he is divine or reverie him as soully being divine. We take Jesus as a prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) and let that be known. The same way we take Prophet Muhammed (PHUB), Moses, Aaron, Solomon, Zakariah, Abraham (PHUT), and the others as prophets. There is no real difference amongst them; they were all given the same message to worship God (Allah in arabic, which means god), and God alone. They were each given signs. Moses with the ability to part the sea, Solomon to talk to the animals, Jesus with capability to bring back the dead or heal the sick, Muhammed to the Angels. And they were all tested in their faith differently. Jonas being swallowed by the whale, Jacob through sickness and the lose of his sons, Joesph through the separation of his family and beauty, Jesus through the disbelief from the people he was sent to (Which you read the bible explains he was sent to the Jews, not all of mankind), Muhammed through exoneration and no sons.
We do not have to get a point, just as you do not get our point. This is something we believe in and are supposed to believe in as it is within the Qu'ran.
"Say (meaning the muslims, who are considered the believers within Islam), Oh you Kaferuns--disbelievers, You will not believe as I believe. And I will not believe as you believe..." --Suratul Kaferoon, verse 1-3.
And thus we shall not. Yes we take the bible as a book, just as we take the Torah( the book of the jews) as a book, but we believe in the orginal text, not the refound ones.
For the one who thinks he knows the Qu'ran so well, and that we doom all disbelievers as being sent to hell. In the Qu'ran suratal Baqarah-- There are several verses which talk about the priest who will go to heaven, for being monotheist and believing in the oneness of god-- alone I repeat. We don't condemn everyone, for we do not have that capability-- the Qu'ran repeats this many times in several different surahs, but you would have to have memorized them to know this or see this.
Again, as I said, you can not fight something or talk about if your argument is mostly ignorant, and you yourself have never studied islam.
You are only fighting with the same ignorance you speak about, by hear-say, in the same tongue you are taught with, and with the adequate-- at best--based knowledge you do have on the subject. You can not fight islam with, nor the Qu'ran, with the Qu'ran, because there are too many other things you have not read within it, then which text did you read in translation. And also you must remember the fact that you are reading "a Translation" not the original text it was written in...
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October 24, 2007 10:58 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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October 24, 2007 10:55 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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We muslim belives in Allah Almighty , and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no difference between one and another of them. And we submit to Allah.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last and final prophet of Allah.
Jesus Christ is not the son of God, how come God have son, if HE does not have any Wife ?
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October 12, 2007 2:20 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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The article set here was read, and I appreciated its content. I am not surprised that Sufis especially are spiritually attune to the Isa story. They have often sought through much prayer and ascetic living the spiritual beauties of Faith, all religious can learn from the Sufis.Many profound Christian writers have spoken fondly of Sufi poets and writers. Christian clergy crossing all denominations have commented favorably of Sufism as a whole, as being the Mystical avenue into spiritual revelation. More Muslims should read the Sufis, they would be more understanding of the Christian expression of individual salvation and revelation. However many Muslims are as anti-Sufi as they are anti-Christian. Muslims believe strongly in submitting their will to Allah(GOD). They as the Jews of old who were obsessed with the canonical LAW lacked the whole picture given them in scripture to allow God(to put His Law into their hearts by the Spirit) which means literally that God empowers the believer to live the letter of the Law, because the Lord gives the enabling strength to fulfill the demands of the Law by the Spirit. We in our own selves can never live righteously and to discipline our walk in the Law. The Law shows us how inept we are to follow it totally.God wants us to see our own frailities so that we can in fact see His Glory, and seek His purification.Even the prophet Isaiah wrote about the Servant who would cleanse man from their transgressions. Jeremiah wrote about the heart being wicked, and man reasoning with God to be made whole. The prophets knew that God's cleansing power was Whiter than Snow, and made as wool.Our sins would be relinquished and grounded into the dust of forgetfulness. Islam naturally teaches that Muhammad is the seal of the prophets, but the truth is they missed Jesus in the process. To Meet a Savior who washes us whiter than snow, and return to a cold relationship with God, never knowing if we are truly forgiven or not makes no sense. Believers after the Apostolic age found great satisfaction in the power of the Gospel message. They were made the friends of Jesus through repentance and forgiveness of sins, they understood the whole reason for the cross, death and resurrection of Jesus. Centuries later a man named Muhammad claims that is all wrong and he has the final story. The Qu'ran although stating that Allah is all-knowing and all-compassionate, never really addresses the age old human condition of malady;SIN, the wickedness of the heart, the seduction of Satan and so on. The Bible mentions with clarity both the condition of Sin, its travesty, and also the Cure. Now Muhammad claims that the Cure is wrong and the Christians have exceeded the Limits. How can a Muslim truly know what the Injeel is if they are told that the Book is full of deceptions and lies? Isa is not a reality in the Qu'ran, because his story is adapted from the lies of the New Testament. The unity Jesus may offer in the three monotheistic religions, is truly clouded,however it is not because the Jews and Christians will not accept the Isa of the Qu'ran, but rather the Muslims will never accept the Isa of the Book the Bible.We already see Him as a prophet, a messenger,a submitted Servant, the son of Mary in the virgin birth, and the one who initiated change in the attitude of the Jews,toward GOD.We can and are able to separate the divine from the Fleshly mission of Jesus. We see Jesus as a reformer, a fund-raiser,political activist, a humanitarian, and a peace-maker.More so, we see Jesus as the fulfillment of the LAW.Jesus has taught us how to submit to God, as I am sure Muslims find that hard to believe. You probably are wondering why I said fund-raiser? Simply Jesus spoke much about money, and man's inability to use it wisely. He did encourage his followers to give with great enthusiasm, without complaining to increase the kingdom of God. I am personally against much of Tv Evangelism that pleads for money, the problem is they have an audience who follow them, and naturally they must be funded by their audience, nevertheless I am appalled by their gimmicks as you most likely are.Thank you for your time. DAN.
September 15, 2007 1:09 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on September 15, 2007 13:09
Let educate you, Issa is in Arabic and Yassoa that's Hebrew, unfortunately many christians do not like to read Bible. Plese provide me where Juses said, I'm God worship me?...but I can find where he said that he is going to his father who is our father too.
August 20, 2007 7:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 20, 2007 19:11
I found the article by Dr. Ibn Khaldun both misleading and insulting to Christians. For someone who is living in the West for such long time and who is unable to grasp the basic concepts of Christianity is shocking. To quote someone or some book of 1400 years olds which is filled with confusion and misunderstanding of Christian faith tells you volumes about the future of interfaith and multicultural which include Muslims in the West.
Mohamed did NOT even got Jesus name right in his Quarn by calling Him Isa instead of his real name in Arabic which is Yassoa.
Islam did not save Mohammed from controlling his passion for power and control over the none-believers, so why should any one believe him or his god.
Mohamed utters blasphemy on the Son of God and on all Christians and Jews. Even his greatest hero Abraham was called Hanifa “Muslim” (not a Jew or a Christian), while if he had know Syrian, he would have realized that he called Abraham a pagan.
As much you insult Christ with your ignorant of its teaching, you also showed ignorance of the Islam because you could not understand its pagan root of worshiping towards a stone in the middle of an ancient idol temple called Mecca.
August 7, 2007 1:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Akbar Ahmed is absolutely right: Jesus was a unifying force just as Mohammed and Buddha were. Their message was universal oneness as opposed to the tribalism that leads to wars and is expressed by many who have commented here. Unfortunately, because our tribalism served us for so long it has become so deeply entrenched we can only distort the messages of these great teachers. In an era of globalisation where we are all closely juxtaposed and inter-connected, we desperately need to properly understand these ancient teachings in order to transcend our now dangerous atavistic tribal instincts.
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May 5, 2007 3:50 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on May 5, 2007 15:50
Dear Akbar, I tried to read Quaran; I failed, because so much hatred, racism and intolerance cannot be found in any other book.
I will certainly rot in Hell as atheist and kufir, but I will never stop citing statements full of hatred and violence from the book of your religion.
January 6, 2007 11:59 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on January 6, 2007 23:59
All that stuff about Christ in the quran is what Mohammad heard from nestorian christians who lived around arabia. Nestorian believed the true christ was not killed but a lookalike was killed in his place and the same can be found in the quran. Christ and other jewish prophets are included to make Mohammed look legitimate, in reality he is the profit of Satan.
Victoria ( a revert to islam): please provide your testimony here and perhaps you'll be more successful where other muslims have failed to answer question regarding your faith.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/index.php
December 29, 2006 8:26 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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Sorry to say so, but Big Bang is right. It's lip service. Saying PBUH after someone's name ... wow, great form of respect. How about actually obeying him? Wouldn't that be a little more respectful? So how do you obey Jesus? Well, you could do what Mohammed said to do--test everything by the Bible. If Muslims actually did that, they'd see that a lot of what they've been told by the imams (sorry, that's a fact too, most Muslims don't read the Qur'an for themselves) flies in the face of the Bible. And none of this "the Bible has been corrupted" rot. It's exactly the same as it was in Mohammed's time, so why was he telling people to test his teachings against it if it were already corrupted? I have yet to hear a coherent response from anyone on that point.
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Obviously, Akbar Ahmed is a good disciple in implementing his prophet Muhammad’s survival tactic of misrepresenting Islam as a peaceful and tolerant religion, especially in times when the enemy is in the upper hand (as Akbar Ahmed is now in the United States). But WAIT, until he (and the Muslims) gains the upper hand! Then, he will follow his prophet Muhammad’s teaching:
"Those who disbelieve and debar others from Allah’s path and in the end die as unbelievers shall not be shown forgiveness by Allah. THEREFORE DO NOT FALTER OR SUE [or call] FOR PEACE WHEN YOU HAVE GAINED THE UPPER HAND" Mohammad 47:34
This all-too-well-known treacherous tactic is also manifested in Akbar Ahmed’s lip-service that “Jesus is considered a great prophet by Muslims. Indeed Jesus is a focal point in the Quran. He is mentioned more often in the Quran than even the Prophet Muhammad. The Prophet himself said that there is no one closer to Jesus in love and reverence than him.”
To prove that this is just a lip-service to deceive his the enemy, let us see what the overwhelming parts of the Quran really teach about Jesus and Christianity, such as:
“And the Jews say, ‘Ezra is the son of ALLAH,’ and the Christians say, ‘the Messiah is the son of ALLAH;’ that is what they say with their mouths. They only imitate the saying of those who disbelieved (kafaroo) before them. ALLAH's curse be on them! How they are turned away. They have taken their priest and their monks for lords besides ALLAH. And so have they taken the Messiah, son of Mary. And they were not commanded but to worship the One God. There is no God but HE. Holy is HE far above what they associate (yushrikoona) with Him! They seek to extinguish the light of ALLAH with their mouths; but ALLAH refuses but to perfect HIS light, though the disbelievers (al-kafiroona) may resent it. HE it is Who has sent HIS Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, that HE may make it prevail over every other religion, even though the idolaters (al-mushrikoona) may resent it.” Surah 9:28-33
Akbar Ahmed certainly would not be able to deny that we, Christians, have been unambiguously defined by Muhammad as UNBELIEVERS that should be punished, since this is what the Quran says:
"Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished." (Surah 5:73)
In many parts of the world today, especially in third-world countries where the western or Christian civilization has not been firmly established, the Muslims are fighting vigorously and violently a (further) spread of Christianity by relentlessly attacking the main pillars of the Christian faith, i.e., the Trinity essence of God and that Jesus is the Son of God (see Surah 9:28-33 cited above). Whereas in the United States and Europe, where Christianity is in the upper hand (still!), the Muslims keep using Muhammad’s treacherous lip-service of praising Jesus, even seeing in Jesus “a great potential source of unity between the Abrahamic faiths.” Why is this tactic treacherous and such uttering just a lip-service? Simply because the Muslims HOPE that Christians would not know what is truly taught by the Quran, and what the Muslim community really thinks about Jesus. To better reveal Akbar Ahmed’s falsehood, I recommend all Christians to read and study the al Quran themselves, instead of simply believing in false and treacherous interpretation uttered by their harbingers like Akbar Ahmed. Only by studying the Quran ourselves would we see the real truth that Jesus is a (great) potential of DIVISION between the Abrahamic faiths, i.e., by finding out that Jesus is one of the main issues which distinguish the Jewish, the Christian and the Islam religions one from another.
The only great potential for unity among widely differing faiths in the world is REASON, since reason is the only means of communications that is the same for all human beings.
December 26, 2006 11:15 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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2. God is He on Whom all depend.
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19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed."
22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.
23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"
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25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, 'I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being'"
27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"
29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;
32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!
34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.
36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight.
Quran: chapter Mary
December 22, 2006 11:26 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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there was a woman who dressed in islamic fashion- prayed on time 5 times a day and to all outward appearances seemed to be the perfect muslim- but she had a cat that she kept tied to a post and did not even allow it to find food or drink for itself- so the cat died. Then the woman died. She went to hell.
there was another woman who was a jewish prostitute, and she came upon a dog that was dying of thirst. she took her shoe and filled it with water and gave it to the dog. when she died she went to paradise- for that ONE SMALL ACT of compassion.
see how great is the mercy of ALLAH?
one would assume that because the lady was 1) jewish- 2) a prostitute that she would not go to heaven- 2 strikes against her if you will- according to what people IMAGINE that muslims believe.
do you understand better that none of your questions make sense in this context?
no one can claim to have this knowledge- only ALLAH judges- not people.
this is a story related by the Prophet(swa).
December 22, 2006 4:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 22, 2006 16:23
Given that Jesus was the child of a supernatural being, was that being a god or a devil? Devils are bad gods. Good gods are angels.
Test:
1. Sgt John M Stryker of the Marines during the battle for Iwo Jima, WW2 said, "lock and load. Now send them to_____________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
2. Later Sgt Stryker was shot and killed by a Japanese soldier. Sgt Stryker went to____________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
3. 9-11-2001, 19 young men hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings. over 3,000 people died. The 19 that hijacked the plandes went to___________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
4. All others that died 9-11-2001 went to___________.
(a) heaven
(b) hell
If you answered the above questions the way those involved answered them then you shoud know why is there a global religious conflice. Now we can get to the first question, what variiety of supernatural being fathered Jesus?
5. God wants____________.
(a) peace
(b) war
6. Devils want____________.
(a) peace
(b) war
Now we can ask a few more question.
7. God is_______________.
(a) weak, puny
(b) almighty
8. Devisl are_____________.
(a) weak, puny
(b) almighty
9. God needs people to do God's work?
(a) yes
(b) no
10. Devils need people to do their work?
(a) yes
(b) no
11. In the tale about Lucifer taking over heaven Lucifer wanted to be worshipped, honored, adored and glorified?
(a) yes
(b) no
12. In the Lucifer tale did God want to be worshipped, honored, adored and glorified?
(a) yes
(b) no
At this point you must know that proving the existence of God is irrelevant. It's our perception of God that includes all the attributes of Devils that counts. Small wonder there is global religious conflict. All the Gods are puny Devils that must have men who assume God will send their enemies to hell to do their voilent dirty work. Devils want people to be in hell with them. It's so much fun for them to stick hot pokers in their eyes. Don't you imagine?
Think about it when you prostrate yourself before your God. Is it really God? Why does God want people to kill, mame, cripple, wreck each other's lives? God doesn't but the Devil does. The big money goes to those who lead others to hell and it's coming from the tax payers in the good old USA. Merry Devilmas and a new year filled with global religious conflict.
December 22, 2006 12:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 22, 2006 12:15
While I agree this may help to unite some Christians and Muslims -- it really does nothing to help build understand for either with Jews.
In some cases the view of Jesus will also deepen the divide between Christians and Muslims. If someone really believes that Jesus is THE WAY and everything else is false -- there is no way to build bridges. The only option is for everyone to convert to Christianity.
It's only if we all see religion as a way and equally valid paths that we can find common ground and stop the endless fighting in the name of God.
December 22, 2006 11:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 22, 2006 11:46
Professor:
Why do you suppose there's "a global religious conflict?"
You may have explained it with a fact unknown to most Americans, Jesus is a star of a sorts in the Quran. If not explained then at least Jesus puts all belidgerants in the same ball park, the Bible, the common thread that unites. The same thing is true for Mormons and known by most Americans, their God comes from the Bible. Does Jesus unite or divide?
Is the Jesus God or prophet a God or prophet of peace or conflict? Perhaps the identification of Jesus in the written in stone historical record will help us decide.
But then interpretation 1501, http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul is a better reason for conflict. Muslims do believe there is a hell where infidels go do they not? The problem is separating God from Devil. Don't you agree? Is there another path to world peace, an end to "global religious conflict?"
Question. When a jihad warrior, in error or otherwise, kills himself and a few enemies of Allah what happens to Allah's enemies? They go to hell don't they? How sure are Muslims that's so? What if all go to a new world where God is no more present than God is here present? Have Muslims thought that one through? Maybe Allah, Jehovah, Trinity, et al are really the Devil that wants people in hell? Ever give that any thought?
Global religious conflicts play right into the Devil's hands do they not?
December 22, 2006 9:45 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 22, 2006 09:45
THANK YOU BROTHER AHMED- You have made a compelling and inspired statement that is honey for my ears.
I was a practicing christian before i became a muslim, and never really learned the extreme respect
for Jesus(ata) as a christian that i have in islam.
We respect and love him so much that we can never even say his name without adding peace be upon him, if thats not love, what is?
Indeed muslims love and revere Jesus(pbuh)
I was surprised when i learned that the most beloved and cherished woman in islam is Mary(may ALLAH bless her) the mother of Jesus(ata).
I had just supposed it would be the wife or maybe daughter or mother of the Prophet(swa).
See how you have touched the hearts that can be touched?
lovely.
peace
December 22, 2006 12:31 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 22, 2006 00:31
Gotta go with (Christion Perspective) on this one. He/she is right, the muslims are missing the point. I feel sorry for you Burton, all I can do is pray you find Jesus, he is the way.
December 22, 2006 12:25 AM |