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NO Hallakha!
NO Caste System(s)!
NO Rule By BiBLE, GiTA, QURAN!
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THANK YOU!

"Those who can in one way or another call themselves Jews or who identify as Jews have not been a homogenous group in a very long time."

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This statement is true and essentially moves us away from the original albeit improperly framed question.
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"American Jews of today are the descendants of people who 100 or 200 years ago had a very distinct, well-defined Jewish identity.

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I tend to agree with this as well but with some reservations. I would certainly say Jews of even 60 years ago were not only more possessed of an understanding of their own Jewishness, but also learned of others' Jewishness.
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"The future of Jewish Americans will not be determined by their status as a minority, but rather by this very question, how they define themselves."
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This is the reality of every person's situation in America today and one no less salient for Jews. When there are so many needful and needless divisions in America today all of us must be increasingly mindful of our choices,decisions and affiliations. This applies perhaps less to our definition of ourselves but to what i call our development of self, our philosophic outlook and foundation. I have always felt and unexamined self or a self without a system of examination is undesirable. Fortunately, even the most assimilated Jews of a generation as recent the so-called "generation 'x'" have (as much as any other group) a strong propensity for examination not to mention imagination!
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"Change per se is not a threat to American Jewish identity, or to any minority religion. The real question is not what can a minority religion do to retain its roots, but whether there exists some sufficiently important, truthful, core that is confronting change. How “minor” is the essence of that minority?"
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A wonderful formulation by Rabbi Steinsaltz, that should guide and cheer us all! The more truthful that core, the more essential it becomes, the more valuable to the individual, the nation and the community. If the core is Jewish, the more that person embodies a facet of essential Jewishness.

Nachas!

-Mason

TO JOHN STEPHENS:

I don't know what you mean by the traditional doctrine of the Trinity but I have met the Trinity, individually so to speak.

As far as satan not being real, well I have met satan also.

I have already mentioned it but I will repeat, when God the Father came into my heart, He did not say a word but I just knew that it was Him. This happened on 28 Jan 2000.

When God the Holy Spirit came into my body, He didn't say a word either but in answer to a question from the priest to the congregation at large, I had to open my mouth and the Holy Spirit spoke thru me and later at that same Mass, the Holy Spirit revealed to me that the Eucharist really is Jesus. This happened on 29 Jan 2000.

When Jesus said that He would send the Holy Spirit to guide us into all Truth, I have found that in my life it is usually thru other people that the Holy Spirit gets thru to me sometimes unbeknownst to those other people.

God hasn't spoken to me in the conventional sense but He does have His ways and the way that He communicates to others may be different than the way He communicates to me.

You wrote, "God is not a genie who can be corked in a bottle.", how true, how God gets thru to others is really not my business it is His, so to speak, I am just a messenger.

I would like to say that when I usually refer to God, I use the pronoun He, even tho God is not a He, a She or an it but when the Second Person of the Trinity emptied Himself to become a human being, He became a male member of humanity.

I use He because there really is no appropriate pronoun and pronouns come in handy when I speak.

I am not boasting, I am just trying to do the job that God chose for me to do.

I really do appreciate you responding, we are all in this together.

Take care, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom.

Remember God wins, satan loses, a tie is unacceptable.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

THOMAS BAUM:

I don't know why you fired so many salvos my way, but thanks all the same. I was trying to respond to a previous post of yours with courtesy, not intending to jump on you.

I agree more or less with most of what you had to say, except that Satan is not a real entity and I do not accept the traditional doctrine of the Trinity.

Anyone can speak to God. It's called prayer. As for those who hear God's voice, remember that some schizophrenics hear him, too.

God is not a genie who can be corked in a bottle. No one owns God.

Take care about boasting about spiritual gifts. There's a thin line between devotion and delusion.

Dear GaryD

You say you are a Christian. Yet, you make many commehts that seem very unChristian, to me. Maybe you should think a little bit more, in the future before posting, because, remember, if you are posting as a Christian, then you are sort of representing all Christians, and when you misrepresent things in the name of your Christian beliefs, then you make it hard for all the rest of us.

Thanks,

Is that you his Monsenoir POPE Benadict et al???

No Thomas I think myself a Christian because I have experience the Holy Spirit in my life and sir this world has nothing to compare to that. I have sir experienced the ultinate joy of knowing a salvation has been prepared for me not because of anything I have done will do or am doing but only because God Chose for reasons that are completely beyond my understanding to change my lost heart from a lump of unfeeling stone into a heart of pure joy that I might serve him in truth and righteousness all my days.

Not mind you that I make any pretense that I am perfect now or will ever be perfect this side of heaven for you see this new heart rest in the same old flesh in which I was Born and it will pull me this way and that as it might. But I resist it how I can but it encompasses not all my being for I am no more its slave for God has set me a ture liberty.

TRIVIA: Did you know that , Literally & Figuretivly , that "ZiON" or 'Zien' or 'Zye-in' or similar eponym varient,s means to acsually 'Screw something" or via sex someone! And

even more interesting, in ARABIC , not lost in translation , and in Hebrew (lots of Arabic therein & thereof, visa vis) via the the word 'ZiBBY', means a Mans (sex Part, Circumcised or not) organ! And so,

Arabs have Copy Cat the concept "KOSHER" and called it their 'HALLAL"! So Zibby & Zion is the Same Shiat! And there is nothing Sunni about them either???!

And did you know in Arabic the word 'MANIAC' or it's varient , means 'Homo-Sexual'???! But in Yidish, not Hebrew , is called a 'Fagallae'! Ya Ya!

TO GARYD:

You wrote, "Yet God's two chief purposes in creating this world were to demonstrate His justice and His mercy. Hell is but the place of ultimate Justice heaven the place of ultimate mercy.

I would like to ask you a question, do you think that you are a "christian" because you know God's Name?

Another question, are the demons "christian" also, since they know who Jesus is?

As I have said before, I look past heaven, hell and death to the Kingdom, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Daniel in the Lion's Den:

All speech is political!

http://www.hoax-buster.org Do politicians put their hands on the Bible when taking their oath?

http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul Is there a Baptist preacher now or ever trying to become president? Where will he lead the country, to the wilderness where a tabernacle can be built and offerings made to "ball of fire"//"man on fire"//"man getting hotfoot" God?

Maybe taxes? By failing to tax church real estate we are all compelled to pay into church coffers. Do we have a right to object? Are all tax issues political or just tax breaks for the already rich? No tithation without representation!!!

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

"Behold! Write these Upon Your HED's, not your Hearts not Gut's"

WHEREFORE: "I" , your Holy Cosmic Eclati , COMMANDETH ye ("i"):

1) "Let there be NO Worship of JEALOUSY as a G-D.!"

2) "Let there be NO Abuse of LOVE to forgive UNCORRECTED-SIN(s)!"

3) "Let there be NO Hassling over a NAME for G-d!"

4) "Let there be NO Denial of FREEDOM OF ECLATi-ON-ity as RELIGION et al!"

5) "Let there be NO Dishonoring of HONORABLE Parents!"

6) "Let there be NO Unjustifiable HOMICIDE or HURTING!"

7) "Let there be NO Sex with Non-CONSENTERS or BEASTS!"

8) "Let there be NO Theft from NON-THIEVES or NON-USERERS!"

9) "Let there be NO False WITNESSING or Un-JUST Judging!"

10) "Let there be NO Envy of HUMATES or Folks keeping these FIATS of O.U.R. NEW-SONG!"

11) "Let there be NO Procrastination nor LAZYNESS!"

THUS , ALL these things, SAyTH The Holy No-Man:

The Holy No Man finally speaketh;

HARK:

Hear ye Hear Ye, AMERICA is ONE!

Hear O' Sweet sweet U.S. of A.:

Lord G-d Eponymous-ECLATi LOVES ALL! This is JUSTICE This is TRUTH!

The "SHiLOH" , Das Deliveror wird für alle gekommen!" The Deliveror is come already!

Wachen Sie auf "Wake-UP!"

"Gehen Sie nicht zu schlafen!" Do not Sleep!

Zye ga zoon, mein Freund!

I love this man's picture. His image outshines all the rest.

Apparrently converting to whatever weirdness ole jake believes shortly there after makes you as incoherent as he.

Much as some of the things said here appear to me to be quite offensive when they aren't plain silly Iam utterly against any such censorship Daniel.

Hiding your head in the sand to keep out the reality that the things that offend you represent will not prevent them from being said elsewhere when there may be no one to reveal them for the brazen idiocy they are.

I think that the phrase "freedom of speech" refers to political speech that is free from government control or censorship, under penalty of punishment, including imprisonment. The Washington Post seems awfully sensitive about this "freedom of speech" and only seems to censor posts that use one of the 7 "bad" words.

But I would not mind if they took a little more active role in censoring some of the comments here; that would not, in my opinion, violate any fundamental "freedom of speech" which is our right as American citizens. Alot of comments are hate-speech, delusional speech, or just plain silly speech which often derails the conversations. What would be so wrong with insisting on some minimal level of courtesy and seriousness?

However, I realize that to properly monitor these posts would probably mean hiring alot of people and would cost alot of money, and make the whole thing much more complex and complicated, so maybe leaving it as it is would be the most pragmatic and utilitarian thing to do.

Yet God's two chief purposes in creating this world were to demonstrate His justice and His mercy. Hell is but the place of ultimate Justice heaven the place of ultimate mercy.

TO GARYD:

You wrote, "Friend Thomas I fear greatly that we will not see all of humanity in heaven for far too many are much to concerned with the hear and now rather than the hear after".

This statement is very true as far as for what so many are concerned with.

Also a lot of people seem to be content with what I call the "good enough news" as in as long as I get to the good place.

I look past heaven, hell and death to the Kingdom, the new heavens and the new earth.

As I have said, God has a Plan and has had His Plan since before creation and His Plan will come to Fruition.

At Jesus's birth there were two announcements from the angels, "This is 'GOOD NEWS' for All people" and "Peace to whom God's favor rests" two separate statements, both true and something to think about.

We are all in this together and being a "christian" is carrying on the work started by Jesus, it is more than claiming that you know Who Jesus Is.

Hang in there, He hung in there for us.

Take care, be ready, see you in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

I will endeavor Bgone but I fear as I have already said that It will avail neither of us much.

First, I did not come to the one true and living God I like every once else was seeking a god to suit me rather than the God that is. I tried drugs, booze, sex and all the usual escapes but none of them held for me an answer. In my early teens I fled the Church to lead my life as I pleased. My parents weren't happy but they knew me well enough to know that there was little they could effectively do about it.

No It was God who came for me. How'd I know it was God. It is a matter of character. The Devil you see is in many resects not much diffrent than 20th century man in that he is totally self absorbed.
He wants the power that goes with being God but hasn't the wisdom to effectively use it even if he had it. One must keep in mind as well that unlike God the devil is neither omniscient omnipresent or omnipotent and hence he cannot be perfect. This also means there are things he does not no.

Friend Thomas I fear greatly that we will not see all of humanity in heaven for far too many are much to concerned with the hear and now rather than the hear after

Garyd:

You could try. Is it anything like what people at Woodstock did? You know, feeling spirits and so on? How did senator McCain say that, "a pharacutical event?"

If it can't be explained any better than color to the always blind then what is missionary all about? There must be some way for one person to induce into the mind of another that good warm feeling that comes from worshiping the supernatural being that lives in fire. That's what happened to those angels that followed Lucifer -good warm feeling that goes on and on and on and on.... And I can avoid hell by doing as they did?

You're not confusing you explaining color to the blind with the blind explaining color to you are you? And you've accepted their word for it without opening your eyes to look for fear of what you might see? Blind can be faked and color confused.

The big money comes to those leading the multitudes to hell -through the blind person's vision of color? Could there be another explanation?

TO JOE:

You wrote, " We are treated in the comments to everything from sheer lunacy (those that speak to G-d)", this may or may not be referring to me, but as I have said before on a different post when God the Father, Who is referred to as the First Person of the Trinity came into my heart, He didn't say a word, He did not have to, I just knew that was it was Him.

You may or may not believe that Jesus is God-Incarnate, True Man and True God, but the people of His day said the same things about Him.

Of course He flat out said He was, "One with the Father" meaning He is God.

When I speak about God and meeting God, I have to use human language which is somewhat limited and that is the only language that I know.

You do seem to have a rather low opinion of people that do not conform to your expectations, do you know why?

I have met God, the Trinity, the Being of Pure Love, and I know that I do not know everything, I don't need to.

One of the things that I have learned in my time here on earth is that I can not live other people's lives, some times it is hard enough living my own.

It doesn't matter if anyone believes me or not but God is Real and God is a lot nicer than some people think He is and a lot nicer than some people even want Him to be.

satan is not nice at all but he can try to come across as mister nice guy tho, I have also met satan.

Take care, be ready, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Actually, there are house rules clearly posted by the Post, and just as clearly not enforced. We are treated in the comments to everything from sheer lunacy (those that speak to G-d) to overt hatred of Jews and all things Jewish (I mean you "Chris Everet", Victoria, several too cowardly to come up with better than anonymous and others, those who simply can not stop insulting Jews in grotesque ways that were the insults pointed at Blacks or Hispanics, and the same slurs were used, would not be tolerated for one moment).

Please do not get on some half baked high horse about your rights to free speech. With all rights come duties and responsibilities to use them well. You have every right to your opinions, even if they are stupid and evil, but we all know that lines have been crossed.

Further, if you really want to talk about American law, consider the difference between a public and a private forum. Guess which heading the privately owned web-boards of the privately owned Post fall under? Of course, I am dreaming to believe that the more foolish here will understand this legalism.

It is not the fault of the Post that ignorant and repugnant fools with the manners of surly, slow witted, thirteen year olds exist. It is the fault of the Post that this board has become a forum for the pathetic, hateful and brain damaged. I, for one, am very tired of it.

Bgone if you have to ask the question you wouldn't understand the answer. And that isn't meant to assault your intelligence.

For one who has known the one true and living God trying to explain that revelation to one who has not - whose soul has not been quickened by the Holy Spirit - is a whloe level of difficulty beyond trying to expalain green to a man blind since birth.

To those who have spoken to God:

Ref: http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul

How do you know it was God and not, well, Devil in the burning bush? Maybe there's other angels besides Lucifer who think God is a pretty good job? God could be a good enough job, like president that it attracts many candidates. Lucifer didn't take out a patent on rebellion against God did He?

What are the distinguishing characteristics of God? We can identify ducks by the way they walk, quack and they way they look. What does God look like? If I hear a voice from the sky how can I be sure it's God's voice? What kind of sound does God's footsteps make? Does God have feet?

Of course the bottom line that seems to be consistent with Jews having a tough go of it is that the Torah/Bible was written by folk(s) that thought they were talking to God, or, were triple A scoundrels.

The chief problem man has with the Christian God isn't love but the notion of Justice.

The average human being doesn't wish a God to worship but rather a God to worship him. Hence we have Allah and his flexible justice which essentially boils down to kiss my butt and I'll ignore your crimes.

As opposed to the Christian God who assumed the form of a man to pay the price Justice demanded for our sin.

Thomas Baum, your a sick Man!

You have someones elses didease, call , quite Apocalyptically, Religious Jealousy Psychosis and Pre-Apocalyptic Syndrome!

important my inferior Super-Stupid-Stitious Mr. Shame, not yiddish 'Mr. Shain", cyber friend(s) aka Mr. BAUM:

For the Lord speaks:

"Hear O' America , America is ONE;"

"I" your Holy No-Mon lord Eponymous Eclat + "i" am your Zero Jealous lord G-d Almighty!

"I" your Holy-No-Man am neither a 'He/him' nor a She/Her', but "I' am your(s) and "i" am "IT" as "ITSELF" in ALL Every & Any of me things & stuffs!.."

"HARK me sweet sweet Humate-Kind(s), remember:

"I' do the thing, for 'ME + YE' and so "i" + "I" have POWER. else if "I" do not the thing, then "i" will have No-Power!".

Note: aka "CO-ACH" [strength]& "RUACH" [breath].

"For "I" (IT/Creator), ye ("i" /you) Eponymous Eclat + "i" = LIFE/PHOTONS NEW-SONG coming from All O.U.R. Old-Songs.."

TO JOHN STEPHENS:

The name that I post with is my real name.

I have already said that I do not hold it against Mohammed that he was deceived.

I have also said that the god of islam is satan.

I have also said that knowing God's Name is not some kind of magic.

I have also said that God is a Being of Pure Love.

I have also said that God is a Trinity, I can't explain it but it is true and I have met the Trinity.

I have also said that Jesus did not become the Son of God until He became the Son of Man and that was when Mary said YES before that He was God.

I have also said that Jesus became just as human as you and I and emptied Himself of His Omni's, so to speak, but kept the Pure Essense of God, which is LOVE, when He entered time and space as a human being.

I have also said that God is not the egomaniac that some people seem to think that He Is, and by this I mean God is not impressed that people know His Name and continue to treat their brothers and sisters unnice, so to speak.

I have also said that God did not tear out page one, "Let us make Man, [male and female] in our Image [LOVE]", even tho some that call themselves "christian" seem to have torn it out.

I have also said that saying that you are a christian does not mean that you are one.

I have also said that it is important what you do and why you do it and what you know.

I have also said that God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof.

I have also said that God's Plan is not only for ALL OF HUMANITY but also for ALL OF CREATION.

These are some of the things that I have said and posted.

I didn't choose me, God chose me and I have said YES.

Somebody had to be me and it came as quite a shock to me to find out that I am a messenger.

Just a messenger and I am here to tell the world that God wins, satan loses, a tie is unacceptable.

Take care, be ready, night is coming but the dawning of the seventh day will come also, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

TO RALPH:

On your post of 1-12-2008 at 2:29 PM you wrote, "Mr. Baum has "met God", knows all about HIM (why not HER ?),", as I have written on previous posts, God is not a He, a She or an it but is a Being of Pure Love.

God-Incarnate, tho, was a man, a Jewish man.

You also wrote, " "Jews are the chosen people, period". Being that the Jews wrote the bible, it would be strange, indeed, if they said that any others were "chosen".", maybe you should actually read what I wrote about what being chosen means.

The Jews did not exist before God chose Abrahm and then formed the Jewish people.

Then you wrote, " As a wise old man said: "Follow the man who seeks the truth. When he says he has found it, Run Like Hell!" ".

I will be the first to tell you and everyone else, don't follow me.

I would also like to say that I wasn't seeking the truth but The Truth found me.

I am just a messenger.

Take care, be ready, see you in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

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TRIVIA: Did you know that , Literally & Figuretivly , that "ZiON" or 'Zien' or 'Zye-in' or similar eponym varient,s means to acsually 'Screw something" or via sex someone! And

even more interesting, in ARABIC , not lost in translation , and in Hebrew (lots of Arabic therein & thereof, visa vis) via the the word 'ZiBBY', means a Mans (sex Part, Circumcised or not) organ! And so,

Arabs have Copy Cat the concept "KOSHER" and called it their 'HALLAL"! So Zibby & Zion is the Same Shiat! And there is nothing Sunni about them either???!

And did you know in Arabic the word 'MANIAC' or it's varient , means 'Homo-Sexual'???! But in Yidish, not Hebrew , is called a 'Fagallae'! Ya Ya!

I've posted here off and on for a while now and frankly this is the first thread I've seen that is so chock full of utter moronic garbage as to make me question my wisdom in returning.

1st we are not running out of food nor are we even close to doing so. What starvation there is in the world is largely the fault of governments using food as a weapon or who interfere in the production of same.

2nd the Talmud whether you are Jewish or not isn't a forgery. The Protocols of Zion is a proven forgery.

Just read "The Noxious Fruits of Hate Speech Laws' on the SALON site-

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/13/hate_speech_laws/index.html

Watch the woman in the above video. She wins as the contemporary poster girl for "the banality of evil" as she alternately rolls her eyes, flares her nostrils and crosses her arms during an opening statement asserting rights of free speech.

Who is she?

Rabbi,

You write "The real question is not what can a minority religion do to retain its roots, but whether there exists some sufficiently important, truthful, core that is confronting change."

I agree, although as a practical matter the question is really whether there exists some sufficiently POWERFUL core. This is not quite the same. I do not identify myself as a Jew but I have been around those who do my whole life, and like all "received" cultural identification it's a double-edged sword. Generalizing, some of the attributes at the core of Judaism are:

Tribalism
Solidarity
Superstition
Inquisitiveness
Racism
Social justice
Xenophobia
Practicality
Pedanticism
Education
Indoctrination
Skepticism

You get the idea. Like everyone, our roots have both noble and ignoble origins. The question I have is this: What difference does it make if the label of "Jew" survives or not? Why do some people like Joe above feel "pain" at the idea of people making their own choices about how they identify themselves? What business is it of his? Personally, if the Jewish tradition results in a healthy dose, into the ENTIRE family of man, of the positive half of the list above, then why is that not a success? Where's the virtue in retaining one's ancient tribal identity as if it's some defining core? I don't feel worse off for not thinking of myself as a Saxon, singing the songs the Saxons sang centuries ago, associating only with fellow Saxons, dating only Saxon girls, eating only Saxon food, manufacturing arcane rules for who can and cannot consider themselves a Saxon, thinking always in terms of Saxon, Saxon, Saxon, thanking God I'm not a non-Saxon, terrified at the prospect of a future without a cabal of Saxons preserving the ancient Saxon ways.

Freedom of Speech Challenged in Canada-

PLEASE READ AND WATCH YOUTUBE-

A controversial conservative commentator was unrepentant going into a Human Rights and Citizenship Commission hearing yesterday, using his Web site to republish the same cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad that got him into trouble in the first place.

"Contriteness implies that you've done something wrong for which you need to apologize or atone," Ezra Levant said moments before his 90-minute meeting with the Alberta Human Rights and Citizenship Commission in Calgary.

"I have not done anything wrong."

Mr. Levant's dispute with some members of Alberta's Muslim community became even more personal, as the head of a Calgary Muslim group said he now fears for the safety of his family due to "lies" Mr. Levant has been spreading about him.

The commission is investigating Mr. Levant's decision two years ago, as publisher of the Western Standard, to print a series of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

The same cartoons had already ignited violent protests and death threats from Muslims around the world after the images appeared in a Danish newspaper.

Syed Soharwardy, head of the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada, filed a complaint after the Western Standard published the cartoons, which included a Muslim man with a bomb-shaped turban, and the commission is now investigating.

Mr. Levant, his lawyer and his wife attended a 90-minute meeting yesterday with a human rights officer.

Mr. Levant, who occasionally writes for the National Post, said he was asked about his rationale for publishing the cartoons.

"I don't need to be reasons-able. I have maximum rights of free speech," he said later.

"I have the right to publish this for the most offensive reason, for the most unreasonable reasons."

The commission's director said it would hear from both sides and decide whether the complaint should be dismissed, go to an arbitrator, or go to a full human rights complaint hearing.

"We don't talk about individual complaints until they get to the public stage," said Marie Riddle, the commission's director.

For Mr. Soharwardy, the issue has become intensely personal.

He fired off a letter to Calgary police yesterday, complaining about statements made by Mr. Levant on his blog that refer to the Muslim leader as a "radical, Saudi-trained imam who has publicly called for shariah law to be imposed in Canada."

"I have asked him what kind of training did I get in Saudi Arabia?" an angry Mr. Soharwardy said from Calgary.

He said Mr. Levant has also called him anti-Semitic, despite the fact Mr. Soharwardy's mosque celebrates Hannukah with the local Jewish community.

"These people have the intent to incite hate against Muslims," Mr. Soharwardy said.

"God forbid if somebody reads from his Web site -- [if ] any fanatic reads it -- and he attacks me, who's responsible?

"If any crime [is] committed against me or my family, I will hold Mr. Ezra Levant responsible."

Calgary police said they were actively investigating the complaint, as well as another complaint Mr. Soharwardy made in December.

That complaint centred on comments made on a blog connected to the Western Standard Web site.

The comments, from an unknown user, included "There is no such thing as innocent Muslims," and "They must all be killed. All of them."

"The file is still open and we are still actively pursuing it," Insp. Bob Couture said.

Mr. Levant called his appearance before the human rights commission "an interrogation.""To me, this is offensive," he said.

"A secular government bureaucracy has essentially been hijacked by a radical Muslim imam," he said. "It's being used to further his fatwa against these cartoons."

"We have a great tradition of free speech in Canada," he said.

"My freedom to publish a cartoon that some radical Muslim imam doesn't like, well that's the free West for ya."

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ADIN...It's the same goal for for all peoples of all nations, life a gift which through heart as brain, one having the oppertunity in developing understanding as experience unto the essence of creation. This has always been the message from those gifted in servatude to the almighty. Such the problem with jewish people, they having no desire to serve the Lord, in having become god. ADIN, It was jewish people whom wrote scripture creating there own God, a God of their creation, which chosen them being above all others. Times passing they having dug into an ever deeper pit. The one God idea not jewish but originated from egypt, they did not follow it up as many made a living in having the many gods, sea, air, beauty wisdom, courage, strength, love, etc, etc, etc, The one God proved to having it's benifits, in that it concentrated power, being much more so for those whom pushed the one God idea, as then it they whom control the choice of whom placed in power, with the agreement then of one side, supporting other. Of course others whom saw the oppertunity of the power, wealth, which the one God brought, they then jumped on the bandwagon. The rest history, one group then produceing the son of God, where another group praising, the mother of the son, of God. While Christians, on working on there scripture, which now of course it all get out of hand, with ever more fantasy. Where the son then becoming greater than father, therefore jews become inferior, as christians be superior,leave such past it only ever worsening. ADIN, jewish people are as all others, where the Lord, not found in books words, but through our development, in understanding, as of experience within the heart as brain,with maturing of such experience as understanding, the living word of God takes root, which answer all questions, then no needs of words of holy scripture, that's the way it be for all jewish, Irish Dutch, Italian, Greek, Iranian, German, French, English, Indian, African, or Mexican, or Japanese, or Australian, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ADIN, like all others nation's jewish people's must wean themselves from hundreds of years of religious brainwashing, as coming to terms with reality. They be no higher or lower or different from other poor souls, having struggled through times to gain in spiritual development, toward an ultimate ending our, spiritual enlightenment.

Att: Athena:
An Open Mind indeed YE hath & wise indeed thou art! Ya! Ya!

Although I am not Jewish, therefore I don't have an opinion one way or the other, I'd still like to make a point that I thought of yesterday. Although Jews are becoming more "American", America as a whole is certainly benefiting from the contributions of Jewish people to our society.

Malcolm:

Somebody is to blame for more people than the earth can support? Enviornmentalist, "tree huggers"? I don't think so. It's not monolithic, lots of people to blame.

Not to worry. We can convert coal and limestone into food pellets. They won't taste good but they will be free and cure the obesity problem.

Will the supply of coal ever run out?

In the past wealth has not been a problem. The distribution of wealth has been the problem -the problem governments are trying to solve. Available wealth is now the problem. That's why governments look so stupid.

I agree with Joe. We are all aware that shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater abuses the right of free speech. Among the educated, it is no less offensive to intrude in polite conversaton with ignorant rants and foolish gibberish. While I agree with Voltaire's advocacy of free speech, I'm sure even he would lose patience with the incessant braying of jackasses and dogs baying at the moon.

The difference, Thomas Baum, is that this is a specific forum, open to the general public, yes, but presumably of interest to the educated and intellectually curious, willing to learn from those of unfamiliar cultures and beliefs. If we cannot achieve sensibility and peace with one another here and now, how can nations ever do so?

To understand the difference between disagreement and insult, try publicly attacking Mohammed and Allah in the same manner that Judaism and Christianity are routinely disparaged, and post your real name and full address. Expect guests.

Ooppsssaa

Correction:
"The END of the Era and EPOCH of Hassling over a Name for "My G-d" INSTEAD of real G-D, is here!

WOW!

Mr. Baum has "met God", knows all about HIM (why not HER ?), his plans for all of us, etc. He should have his own TV program. He seems to have an inside track on the "Truth". "Jews are the chosen people, period". Being that the Jews wrote the bible, it would be strange, indeed, if they said that any others were "chosen". Further, it would seem that God would have given this bit of information to others as well, just to remove any argument. As a wise old man said: "Follow the man who seeks the truth. When he says he has found it, Run Like Hell!"

Nice to see you actually got someone qualified -- a Rabbi -- to comment on this topic. I suppose you simply ran out of bigots, WashPost?

I had no idea Santa Claus was Jewish until I saw the above photo.

In response to Arun Ghandi's comments regarding the "Jewish Idenity" I must say that I applaud his courage. The "Jewish Idenity" has been used as an excuse for actions (to many to enumerate) that have not only hurt the people of Palestine who were so unfairly displaced to make room for the homeless Jews, but more importantly all peoples in every corner of the earth, especially Jews themselves. In an effort to get and keep a homeland they have endangered us all. They have honed a culture of hatred because they seldom consider non-jews in their actions. If they ever wonder why there is (and always has been) anti-semitism, they need look no further than their own culturally unique self-serving outlook throughout history to find a reason for it. Overplaying the Holocaust and disregarding others is a threat that festers and and continues to overflow and explode. It caused hatred that exploded in the form of the Nazis. It has out the United States into a position that puts us particularly at risk. People almost always feel remorse when confronted with the reality of the holocost but, it wasn't all people who commited this crime to humanity, yet we all have paid the price. The truth is the world is unstable today as a result of the Jewish peoples of the world (especially those outside of Isreal who have funded the cause) who have continued to act with selfish disregard. It is about time Mr Fine , Mr Zuroff and all people who call themselves Jews realized that they indeed owe us an apology for endangering us in the name of their "Jewish Idenity". My hat is off to Mr. Ghandi for having the courage to confront this issue. It needs to be recognized and addressed.

TO JOE:

You wrote, "I am as always, shocked by the comments", actually I don't see why you should be shocked, considering that some are writing what they truly believe.

As far as censoring, who should decide?

I don't know where you live but I live in America and we do have freedom of speech, should we throw it away just because some abuse it?

There is a lot of hatred being spewed out in God's Name but by pretending that some people don't think and act that way does not make it different, does it?

Just like it says, sometimes the thoughts of the heart comes out in speech or in this mode in the postings.

I have met God and God is a Being of Pure Love and since we are all made in His Image, it does seem pretty obvious that in some, that Image, isn't shining thru too well.

As it says, True Religion is taking care of widows and orphans which means, those that are worse off than we are, and since all of us are worse off than everyone else in one way or another, well, then quite simply, what would True Religion be?

The Jews are the chosen people period.

Being chosen does not mean that you are better, it just means that you are chosen, it does not matter if the learned try to twist the simple message or not, Truth is Truth whether anyone believes it or not.

Jesus is God-Incarnate just like He said.

God has a Plan and has had His Plan since before creation and His Plan will come to Fruition and His Plan is unfolding before our very eyes.

God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof.

Some people are so full of religion and/or spirituality that they don't seem to have any room left for God.

Take care, be ready, see you and the rest of humanity in the Kingdom.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

BGONE wrote: "We are now at a pivot point of history. No one has listened to reason yet. Not very likely to listen this time either. There's 1.2 billion more people on earth than food to feed. Supplies of food staples, grains are shrinking world wide at an alarming pace. To be or not to be is no longer the question. Who will eat and who will die of starvation? That is the question. And it will be answered. God wills it."
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That viewpoint reads like something that the enviromentalist nutjobs are promoting. They want to kill off 80% of the world's population in order to save their precious environment. If they would only start with themselves!

quoting BGone "There's 1.2 billion more people on earth than food to feed. Supplies of food staples, grains are shrinking world wide at an alarming pace. To be or not to be is no longer the question. Who will eat and who will die of starvation? That is the question." Look, Let them eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, they will have life in them and live forever. believe in the word of their gods.
"And it will be answered."

From BGONE: "It's questions like this one that prompted the Holocaust -Jews weren't Germans. For that reason if no other I agree with what you said."
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The Zionists were trying to get the European Jews to move to Palestine. If the German Jews had continued to consider themselves Germans they wouldn't have left Germany to move to Palestine and to start their own Jewish country. Therefore they had to lose their German identity. WWII was the solution.

Interesting.

Providence

Att: J O E, et al;

Why you Speak such? Why JOE, Why?

I am as always, shocked by the comments - the extreme nonesense and evil garbage that the Post allows. To all of you at the Post who are supposed to be enforcing your own house rules, would you mind putting someone at the helm for five minutes?

This was once a respectable publication. You have now become a breeding ground for vile cretins and other semi-literate freaks.

Have you read, "The Protocols of International Zionism"? It's a proved hoax.

Have you read the "Torah"? It's a proved hoax.

Have you heard of the Holocaust? It's the product, [The Protocols of International Zionism] multiplied by [Torah]. That's hoax squared which equals disaster for all concerned. For every Jew the Nazis murdered more than 2 Germans died and more than 5 Russians and many others as well.

Was that God or Devil in the burning bush, the supernatural being that "chose" Moses to lead His people? Using the results as our guide the answer must be?

We are now at a pivot point of history. No one has listened to reason yet. Not very likely to listen this time either. There's 1.2 billion more people on earth than food to feed. Supplies of food staples, grains are shrinking world wide at an alarming pace. To be or not to be is no longer the question. Who will eat and who will die of starvation? That is the question. And it will be answered. God wills it.

The question itself is an answer. It says that Jews, (alone?) are "by accident of birth" not real Americans -Jews are a race and self governing as well as all being of the Jewish faith. Religions are inherently governments alright but all Jews aren't Jews. Yeah, the question as stated is nonsense and therefore leads to the nonsensical.

It's questions like this one that prompted the Holocaust -Jews weren't Germans. For that reason if no other I agree with what you said.

There is no Jewish American community as such. Substitute Baptists for Jews and the question makes a lot more sense -except Baptist dont have a past but they do have a history. I hate to waste questions. We could run short of question in the face of all these answers any minute.