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I'm new here, but I think it fair to say that I have been a questioning Christian since I was sixteen. Not that I questioned the eternal purpose, BUT over the past forty-some years, I have posed most of the questions I've read here and on the other forums. I've always felt that I was unworthy of Jesus' sacrifice, and felt that I could never live up to the standards needed to attain heaven. I knew there was MORE that I was unable to grasp...and prayed for clarity to all the questions I had no answers for. I was almost ready to give up, when I discovered the following website:

http://bible-truths.com/

The website, and webmaster, makes perfect SENSE...and there is no room left for ambiguity. Now I have a more meaningful relationship with God...for I know His purpose for my life, for my family's life, and for all mankind. Some may not agree, but to me--it was a blessing to finally realize that God's plan is "alive and well"...and it doesn't matter what WE think or do...HE is in charge and His purpose WILL be achieved in the end.

Agreeing to disagree isn't the answer for anyone...we need something (with evidence) to hold on to in these last days. This website has made me LOVE our God SO much more -- and honor Him for His perfect plan for mankind.

P.S. There is scriptural backing for EVERY topic listed on this site, if you take time to read.

In Christ's love,
Brynn

I'm new here, but I think it fair to say that I have been a questioning Christian since I was sixteen. Not that I questioned the eternal purpose, BUT over the past forty-some years, I have posed most of the questions I've read here and on the other forums. I've always felt that I was unworthy of Jesus' sacrifice, and felt that I could never live up to the standards needed to attain heaven. I knew there was MORE that I was unable to grasp...and prayed for clarity to all the questions I had no answers for. I was almost ready to give up, when I discovered the following website:

http://bible-truths.com/

The website, and webmaster, makes perfect SENSE...and there is no room left for ambiguity. Now I have a more meaningful relationship with God...for I know His purpose for my life, for my family's life, and for all mankind. Some may not agree, but to me--it was a blessing to finally realize that God's plan is "alive and well"...and it doesn't matter what WE think or do...HE is in charge and His purpose WILL be achieved in the end.

Agreeing to disagree isn't the answer for anyone...we need something (with evidence) to hold on to in these last days. This website has made me LOVE our God SO much more -- and honor Him for His perfect plan for mankind.

P.S. There is scriptural backing for EVERY topic listed on this site, if you take time to read.

In Christ's love,
Brynn

If the remains of Jesus had been definitively found, how would that change your view of Christianity?

It would mean that the entire Bible is false, CS Lewis said it best He is liar lunatic or Lord! He could not make the claims he did and be a good teacher.

The Bible is not only historically true; all archeologies discovered have proven the Bibles accuracy. Both people and places. No other book or writing of antiquity is even close to it… None!

The Bible gives us a definitive answer to how life began and how it will end. No other book is as complete as it is!

The Bible is consistent with out error from beginning OT to end NT. All with one purpose to bring man back to God through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ.

The Bible is the book that gives you the only sure way to salvation, with out a doubt.

The Bible is the only book that tells us about the only religion that you don’t have to work your way to heaven.

We don't have to guess or hope or be in fear.

We rely on the power of the shed blood and His work on the Cross.

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The is really no need to answer this question because Jesus rose from the dead, taken his entire body. For those that believe He never exsisted, there are historical roman records along with Jewish records of the cruxifiction and the real life Jesus of Nazareth. He was who He said He was.

Religion was ditorsioned long time ago by men. Jesus could be a just science fiction figure that never existed or maybe he was just a man with a vsision and strong words to manipulate the people, a discovery like that will show that he was just a man and not the son of god

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THE WORST WAY OF CALLING NAME TO THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR:

When Christians say that Jesus(A.S) was His only BEGOTTEN and not MADE like Adam (A.S) or like all other creatures or creations?

What are you insinuating??? That God Almighty him self came down to perform the lowest form of animal act like any dog, donkey or monkey,i.e., sexual reproduction?

And on top of it Jesus(A.S) was His begotten son not ligitimate!!!!!!!!!!1

THAT IS THE WORST KIND OF ABUSE AND NAMING DIRECTED TOWARDS THE GOD ALMIGHTY!!

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A man is trying a very unusual way to propose to his girlfriend. He wants people to forward an email to as many people as possible and he hopes that it will eventually get to his girlfriend. Details here: http://www.proposal-to-mary.com

Here is what he wants people to send by email:

You could help me a lot to spread my proposal to Mary – it is important that it is distributed as widely as possible so that it eventually reaches Mary. If you would like to support my proposal to Mary, please send the following text by email to a lot of people :-)

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WHEN YOU RECEIVE THIS, PLEASE HELP TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE!

For a long time I have tried to find a special way to propose marriage to my girlfriend Mary, whom I know for five years now. I wanted it very special, romantic and memorable, something our grandchildren would still remember.

And here is my idea: I will send out the proposal to Mary to 50 complete strangers, people I don't know - hoping, that they will forward my proposal to as many people as possible, which in turn forward it etc. And some day, I hope, it will reach Mary, after it has travelled a very long way. I know, it will take a long time and I am quite nervous…

From the poem MY Mary will know immediately that the proposal is for her.

I have created a homepage ( http://www.proposal-to-mary.com ) where you can find the current status of my quest. You can use the homepage to check if the proposal has already reached Mary (in that case it is not necessary anymore to forward the mail).

Once the proposal has reached Mary, I will put a note on these pages. Also I will publish there how many people have read the proposal so that everybody can see how far it has spread and that it is getting closer to Mary.

And of course you will find there what I am waiting for most: Mary's answer! I can't tell you, how nervous I am… Will she accept my proposal? Will she like the unusual way how she got it, through the hands of thousands of messengers all over the world?

Please cross your fingers for me! And please - help me by sending the mail to as many people as possible, to help it spread, so that it eventually reaches Mary.

And here is my proposal:

Mary, please forgive me, as you know English is not my native language. And I am not a poet. But I mean it from my heart.

My angel,

Five years ago, I will always remember the day When fate made us meet, blissful Alaskan moments in May Earth spun around us and a journey began Love, warmth, happiness, enough the years to span.

The longer it lasts the more grows our bond And with 80 still - of you I will be fond Whatever happens, I will stay at your side Through good and bad, together let us stride

No second with you was ever wasted
You are the sweetest I have ever tasted
We have spent so many years - why not a life?
Mary, will you marry me - and become my wife?

Mary, if you have received that and have recognized me, then give me a sign so that I can continue with the romantic part of my proposal…

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Dear Humans,

Can you show me the word Judaism in the OT?
Can you show me the word Christianity in the OT/NT?

Why follow a religion whose name is absent from its own holly text?!

There is only one true religion: Islam.

Just follow the Holly Bible and it will show you the way.
Go back to the original text (bypassing the Evangelists!)

Here is my proof:

See Verse 16 in Ch 5 of Song of Songs at this location
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm

Look at the Hebrew text. You will see the Name Mohammad (מַחֲמַדִּים) there! Just remove the "i" (י) and "m" (ם) used for making a noun plural.

Follow Mohammad (in Hebrew מַחֲמַד )

For more, http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/the-Jewish-Bible/Muhammad-in-Songs.htm

And now, we return to today's "Lovely Talmud" episode. Enjoy!

A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave. Shabbath 86a-86b.

Besides the Talmud being a book promoting hate towards non-Jews, it also promotes violence and self torment on the Jews as well;

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Insults Against Mary the Jew, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a who*e: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Mary the hairdresser," had s*x with many men.

Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840

"The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only."

"A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so."

A. S. Tritton in 'Islam,' 1951

The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur'an in the other is quite false.

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De Lacy O'Leary in 'Islam at the Crossroads,' London, 1923.

History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.

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Gibbon in 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' 1823

The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.

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Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley in ‘History of the Saracen Empire,’ London, 1870

"The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force."

“It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran....The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. ‘I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God’ is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion.”

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Lane-Poole in 'Speeches and Table Talk of the Prophet Muhammad'

He was the most faithful protector of those he protected, the sweetest and most agreeable in conversation. Those who saw him were suddenly filled with reverence; those who came near him loved him; they who described him would say, "I have never seen his like either before or after." He was of great taciturnity, but when he spoke it was with emphasis and deliberation, and no one could forget what he said...

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Annie Besant in 'The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,' Madras, 1932.

It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knew how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel, whenever I reread them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.

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W.C. Taylor in 'The History of Muhammadanism and its Sects'

So great was his liberality to the poor that he often left his household unprovided, nor did he content himself with relieving their wants, he entered into conversation with them, and expressed a warm sympathy for their sufferings. He was a firm friend and a faithful ally.

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/What-non-Muslims-sayabout-Muhammad.htm

Reverend Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874.

"Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life."

"In Mohammadanism every thing is different here. Instead of the shadowy and the mysterious, we have history....We know of the external history of Muhammad....while for his internal history after his mission had been proclaimed, we have a book absolutely unique in its origin, in its preservation....on the Substantial authority of which no one has ever been able to cast a serious doubt."

Edward Montet, 'La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries Musulmans,' Paris 1890. (Also in T.W. Arnold in 'The Preaching of Islam,' London 1913.)

"Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically....the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur'an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam....A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvelous power of winning its way into the consciences of men."

Dr. Gustav Weil in 'History of the Islamic Peoples'

Muhammad was a shining example to his people. His character was pure and stainless. His house, his dress, his food - they were characterized by a rare simplicity. So unpretentious was he that he would receive from his companions no special mark of reverence, nor would he accept any service from his slave which he could do for himself. He was accessible to all and at all times. He visited the sick and was full of sympathy for all. Unlimited was his benevolence and generosity as also was his anxious care for the welfare of the community.

Alphonse de LaMartaine in 'Historie de la Turquie,' Paris, 1854.

"Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain, and part of Gaul.

"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.

"On the basis of a Book, every letter which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blend together peoples of every tongue and race. He has left the indelible characteristic of this Muslim nationality the hatred of false gods and the passion for the One and Immaterial God. This avenging patriotism against the profanation of Heaven formed the virtue of the followers of Muhammad; the conquest of one-third the earth to the dogma was his miracle; or rather it was not the miracle of man but that of reason.

"The idea of the unity of God, proclaimed amidst the exhaustion of the fabulous theogonies, was in itself such a miracle that upon it's utterance from his lips it destroyed all the ancient temples of idols and set on fire one-third of the world. His life, his meditations, his heroic revelings against the superstitions of his country, and his boldness in defying the furies of idolatry, his firmness in enduring them for fifteen years in Mecca, his acceptance of the role of public scorn and almost of being a victim of his fellow countrymen: all these and finally, his flight his incessant preaching, his wars against odds, his faith in his success and his superhuman security in misfortune, his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.

"Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in 'Young India,'1924.

I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind.... I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.

Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

"I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.

I Am speechless!!!!

Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud

"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..."
"Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII

The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":

O My GOD!!!

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."

Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew."

Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form."

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."

Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."

Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."

Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."

Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."

Jore dea 377, 1

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."

Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."

Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."

Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."

Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."

Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

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i think jesus existed as a man... so if they found his remains they would be human. makes sense doesn't it? but..you would have to know his d.n.a., and thats the kicker..find some relatives and youll find out if you found jesus. so in other words..jesus could have been anybody. ya think?

i think jesus existed as a man... so if they found his remains they would be human. makes sense doesn't it? but..you would have to know his d.n.a., and thats the kicker..find some relatives and youll find out if you found jesus. so in other words..jesus could have been anybody. ya think?

The Qur'anic Account of Jesus' Ascent to God's Presence Examining the words used in the narratives relating how the Prophets died and the verses dealing with Jesus' ascent to God's presence reveals an important fact: Jesus did not die like the other prophets did, nor was he murdered by the unbelievers.
Rather, our Lord took him up to His presence.
In the case of Jesus, the Qur'an clearly states that he was not killed in any of those ways, for: "They did not kill him [wa ma qataloohu] and did not crucify him [wa ma salaboohu].
" God reveals that people were shown a look-alike and that Jesus was raised up to His presence, as follows: When God said: "Jesus, I will take you back [mutawaffeeka] and raise you up [wa raafi`uka] to Me and purify you of those who are unbelievers. And I will place the people who follow you above those who are unbelievers until the Day of Rising..." (Surah Al 'Imran, 3: 55)
The following are the ways in which the words referring to death in the Qur'an and the word tawaffa in Surah Al `Imran are used: (1) Tawaffa: To Cause To Die, To Take in One's Sleep, or To Take Back The word tawaffa used in Surah Al `Imran 3 and translated as "taking back" here and "causing to die" in some Qur'an translations, has various connotations.
The Qur'an describes his being taken back to God in the words that Jesus will say on the Day of Judgment: [Jesus said], "I said to them nothing but what You ordered me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' I was a witness against them as long as I remained among them, but when You took me back to You [tawaffa], You were the One watching over them. You are the Witness of all things." (Surat al-Ma'ida, 5:117)
there are three meanings to the term wafat which is from the same root as tawaffa:the wafat of death, the wafat of sleep, and last, the wafat of being raised up to God, as in the case of Jesus.

Like the other prophets, Jesus (pbuh) called upon his people to worship God, the One and Only, and to avoid all forms of denial, polytheism, and evil. Those who rejected him oppressed him ad his followers. However, their plot to kill him failed, even though they thought that they had succeeded, because God raised Jesus (pbuh) to His presence. As the Qur’an reveals and the hadith corroborate, Jesus (pbuh) will return to Earth.
Those who claim that he was killed or is dead are seriously mistaken. This is one of the author’s main focuses. While revealing this truth, the author recalls other very important tidings, such as the fact that the signs of Jesus’ (pbuh) second coming are becoming ever more apparent. If God wills, this event is close at hand, and the world will witness momentous events when it occurs.

GOD'S PROMISE: PROPHET JESUS (Pbuh) WILL RETURNThe lives of God's chosen Messengers contain many messages and lessons for all people, especially when we study their encounters, their troubles, and their great struggles. The Qur'an cites Jesus as an example for people to follow, because of how he conducted his life and his struggle, and because of his great virtue.
Jesus' birth, life, and ascension to God's presence are all miracles that the Qur'an reveals in some detail. Although God reveals the narratives of many Prophets, Jesus, whom God supported with superior wisdom, among them that he spoke even in the cradle, and that he was the vehicle for countless miracles while he was in this world. That his status is different also can be deduced from the fact that he was raised to God's presence and that the Qur'an indicates strongly his second coming.
The Qur'an reveals that the unbelievers devised a plot to take Jesus' life. According to some sources, a group of bigoted Jewish scribes and priests bribed Judas Iscariot, one of the disciples, to betray him, after which they would arrest Jesus and hand him over to the Romans. According to the same sources, the priests did not have the power to sentence someone to death and so had to make another plan to agitate the Roman regime.
Thus, they portrayed Jesus as being hostile to the Roman leadership, for the Romans were highly sensitive and ruthless when confronted with dissidents. But these priests failed, for the
Qur'an relates: They [unbelievers] planned and God planned. But God is the best of planners. (Surah Al 'Imran, 3:54)
As the verses reveal, they plotted and moved to kill Jesus. However, their plot failed and they ended up killing a look-alike.
During this event, God raised Jesus up to His presence: And [on account of] their saying: "We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God."
They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)
Many people believe in the widespread assumption that the Romans crucified Jesus. The Roman soldiers and Jewish priests who arrested Jesus are said to have killed him on the cross. Although some historical Christian sects such as Docetism have denied this, today, the world of Christianity completely believes it, as well as that he was resurrected three days later and, after several brief meetings with his disciples and others, ascended into the heavens.

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China Man,

The real problem is zionists.

They pull the strings.

They are the leaders behind the leaders in the capitalistic and communistic worlds of the West and north.

It is the so-called Jew (synagogue of Satan?), who is behind most wars,..like...

WWI (ottoman empire destroyed so Israel could be, and the Belfour act instituted (which is totally illegal and inhumane).

WWII, Zionists fund Hitler, start war to destroy many semite germans, they sacrifice "lesser" brothers of darker skins, and institute the phony Holocaust of which no more then 200,000 Jews died (poland natives suffered far worse).

this gave the so-called jew the moral highground, after lying and propogating lies on the world called the "Jewish Holocaust" ITS A FRAUD.

NOW the so-called jews are up to it again. THey got AMerica into the Iraqi war, there tyring to get us into a war with Iran now.

If it wasn't for the zionist Jweish banker, life on earth would be alot better.

You don't have to worry about what we would say if Jesus Christ's remains were found. The ossuary, like the tomb, was empty. The analysis of mitochondrial DNA remnants from scrapings out of the empty ossuary was inconclusive of anything. The name of “Mary” were not quite right and had to be twisted into place, and was very common in First and Second centuries.

That silly program of James Cameron on the Discovery Channel about the "Tomb of Jesus" was so cheesy it was laughable. The statistics sited were bunk. No amount of bad dramatic music can make up for the lack of plausible evidence. There was a lot hand waving about the “Ossuary of James” having come from this tomb because it was of similar size. But the missing ossuary from this tomb was reported by the only competent archaeologist ever to handle it to be devoid of inscriptions at the time it was discovered in the. If that one is the “Ossuary of James” then the “James” inscriptions are the product of a Twentieth Century forger. If so, who knows what other mischief was wrought on the tomb and the other ossuaries? If it is not from this tomb, one of the key supports of the speculation is nullified.

Two people who should know, Amos Kloner, who originally excavated the tomb, and Joe Zias, former curator of archeology at the Israeli Antiquities Authority are both very negative on this. Kloner told the Jerusalem Post that the documentary is "nonsense." Zias described it in an e-mail to The Washington Post as a "hyped up film which is intellectually and scientifically dishonest."

The specific question is: If the remains of Jesus had been definitively found, how would that change your view of Christianity? The key point of the question hinges on the term "definitively", which creates a misnomer within historical research.

It is historically impossible for the remains of Jesus to be "definitively" found. This is due to the simple fact that there is no comparative DNA with which one can make reliable decisions. The existence of such variables is what would "definitively" prove the historical reality of Jesus' remains. However, the non-existence of such variables definitively rules out the possibility of anyone ever finding the remains of Jesus--or anyone from the ancient world, for that matter.

Therefore, I have no fear about such evidence ever disproving my theological beliefs about Jesus.

TO MARC HALO; PER YOUR POSTING OF APRIL 6, I DONT KNOW HOW I MISSED IT BEFORE JUST NOW. YOUR HATRED BURNS IN YOUR WORDS. YOU CRY LIKE A DISRESPECTFUL, UNGREATFUL, SPOILED, BRAT WHO HATES EVERTHING AND EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING AND RULE EVERYBODY. I RECOGNIZE YOUR CHARACTER AND JEALOUSY AGAINST THE FATHER AND JESUS CHRIST THE SAVIOR. I HAVE GOD'S WORD THAT SUCH REBELLION HAS BEEN A MISERY TO HEAVEN AND EARTH, EVER SINCE satan, THROUGH his ARROGANCE AND VANITY, DECIDED THAT THINGS WOULD BE BETTER, IF he WERE god, AND THINGS WERE DONE his WAY. TO KILL, STEAL, AND DESTROY IS satan's WAY. TO LOVE AND BE LOVED IS GOD'S WAY. I SEE YOU marc halo.

Thank God I don't have to worry about such a thing. Thank God, Christ has indeed risen from the dead and all that is left is an empty tomb.
I don't even take into consideration this "if" question.
While all religions could exist with if-s and can-s, Christianity is built upon the Birth, Death and Resurrection of Christ. There can be no if-s and no question marks in between. There is only certainty in the story of Christ. Praise be to God the Father for sending us His Son Jesus Christ, whom He revealed to us through His Spirit.

Interesting proposal. In the cloudy the haze of religion that question does still haunt me. Who was this guy? If jesus' tomb was discovered today, it would not change my thoughts on his magical powers. However, if this discovery led to other evidence, I would be inclined to wonder.

Interesting proposal. In the cloudy the haze of religion that question does still haunt me. Who was this guy? If jesus' tomb was discovered today, it would not change my thoughts on his magical powers. However, if this discovery led to other evidence, I would be inclined to wonder.

since this is about the tomb of jesus- the special on this issue will be aired on PBS at *:00pm EST on wednesday april 18th

Come on DJTEEL fess up. You're really an atheist trying to make christians look like morons aren't you?

so many people ,so hateful toward christianity that it's sad and humorous at the same time.I've been a christian for years and it's amazing how many people become angry the very second that they find out that i'm a christian..wanting to argue and all..the bible explains there will be a day when most will hate me for his namesake even though i haven't done anything against them. anyway,my life is tanfastic.i love it.that's the way god planned it.i have no argument with people who only want to belittle my faith or me because of my faith.speaking to people like is like throwing pearls to the swine only to be trampled on.so to you people who only speak of christianity in order to trample on it,even christ compared you to swine who only care enough about his words enough to trample on them.So take your miserable lives and argue with other hate mongers.i'm happy and content. i don't have any use for trouble makers like you. so there..neener neeener neeener!! hehehehe...think that's not a christian attitude? you're wrong.jesus didn't instruct christians to be nice -itty nice to the point of accepting humiliation.non christians however just love to hold it against a christian if he/she becomes defensive in an equally aggresive manor. to those monkey buttoxes,i say, go defrock a camel or something ...athiests seem to get so emotionally beside themselves when someone even insinuates that there's a creator. oh well...this is why i don't hang with non-believers,just like athiests probably shouldn't hang with believers. athiests leave christians alone and they'll leave u alone. anyway..havva nice day! and don't forget to pray

The resurrection was not some kind of conjuring trick with bones. It did not take place within the limitations of space and time. It is ultimately Mystery and must be so approached. The New Testament goes to great lengths to show that the risen JESUS was truly ALIVE but in a totally different way. Through the resurrection a whole new energy for transformation and the power of the unfolding love of God was unleashed upon the world in an extraordinary manner.
If they found the remains of Jesus of Nazareth in some remote cave or tomb - it would matter little to me. From that first Easter forward, Jesus has been with us in an entirely new way - a transcendant, mystical presence pervading the whole of reality.

The resurrection was not some kind of conjuring trick with bones. It did not take place within the limitations of space and time. It is ultimately Mystery and must be so approached. The New Testament goes to great lengths to show that the risen JESUS was truly ALIVE but in a totally different way. Through the resurrection a whole new energy for transformation and the power of the unfolding love of God was unleashed upon the world in an extraordinary manner.
If they found the remains of Jesus of Nazareth in some remote cave or tomb - it would matter little to me. From that first Easter forward, Jesus has been with us in an entirely new way - a transcendant, mystical presence pervading the whole of reality.

To China Man:
You have asked a reasonable, good question. Please understand that many, many Americans wish for peaceful, diplomatic solutions to worldwide problems of hate, mistrust, injustice, and prejudice. Decisions made by leaders of the United States definitely do not reflect the decision that would be made by each American if he were in the shoes of those leaders. Thank you for expressing a sincere interest in reaching peaceful rather than conflict-based resolutions to these complex problems.

I understood what China man said. I just can't believe he wanted to degrade America. Japan. Remember pearl harbor? Sure The U.S. dropped the bomb that ended the war, but the U.S. also was instrumental in rebuilding Japan and bringing that country to the status that it enjoys today.

eric, you didnt understand china man's post?

i thought it was lucid enough.

Dear. China man.
What?

Jesus is in heaven that is ageed by all. It means he died or taken bodily to heaven or just disappeared or he never existed but a fiction whatever he is in heaven. Why need to discuss this issue on Earth about somebody in the heaven, we have enough problem on Earth to talk about.

Lets talk about the recent mass killing by Americans in Iraq over 600,000 based on lie and over 2 million during World war 2 in Japan by nuke bomb of innocents. This is a peaceful world except America we are far better place to live. They blame all to Muslims but they killed only 3000 in NY, who is bigger evil, do some math and talk about world problems today not Jesus in heaven or his bons, it is not going to cure human problems of injustice, ignorance, prejudice, hate. Ameen.

Russel D.
Show us one human experience that has not been addressed in the BIBLE. Past, present or future.

Russel D.
Show us one human experience that has not been addressed in the BIBLE.

I think the way one answers this question demonstrates what they think of Jesus. If one believes He is the risen Lord, His remains would eliminate that possiblility. If one thinks that He was a good teacher and nothing more, the question is pointless.

Maya;
My point is that God's science is forever ahead of man's science. What man is discovering now has been from the beginning.(Genesis)

Eric:

They didn't have artificial insemination back then. Not like Mary could go to a doctor and say, give me something nobody else has. The Bible isn't the Truth. It is literature. It's not a history book.

To Maya;
So you can't believe that a virgin can be impregnated. Ever hear of artificial insemination?
In Genesis where it is translated that GOD created Eve from Adam's rib. Should have been translated that God created Eve from Adam's "curve". This curve refers to the Helix curve. The helix curve is that part of the human DNA strand that contains all the genetic material that determines the feminine gender.
GOD is the creator of science.

The whole story about Jesus is so stupid, full of conrtadictions and some really redicilous things (like the immaculate conception)that no person in their right mind would ever believe it if they hadn't been brainwashed into believing it when they were children. I am happy that I was brought up as an atheist. Every religion, be it Christianity, Islam or Buddhism is meant to make people dependent, easily manipulated and last but not least to enrich the clergy. To say nothing of the ignorance and hypocrisy typical of the church, its preachings and practice.I can't help pitying anyone who is a "true believer".

The whole story about Jesus is so stupid, full of conrtadictions and some really redicilous things (like the immaculate conception)that no person in their right mind would ever believe it if they hadn't been brainwashed into believing it when they were children. I am happy that I was brought up as an atheist. Every religion, be it Christianity, Islam or Buddhism is meant to make people dependent, easily manipulated and last but not least to enrich the clergy. To say nothing of the ignorance and hypocrisy typical of the church, its preachings and practice.I can't help pitying anyone who is a "true believer".

Come on now - how would anyone possibly know if it was Christ's remains to begin with? It's a silly question but just say Christ's remains were positively identified, I say "So What?" Resurrection should be by the spirit anyway not bodily. I know that is not biblical, but folks we really have to think for ourselves some times. Even if Christ rose from the dead as an apparition somehow and then followers DID hide his boy, he would still have arose. I'm not a theologian as you can easily tell, but there is such a thing as believing biblical truth without believing the bible literally.

Soja John Thaikattil,

Thank you for your excellent posting. If possible, could you share your views on the trinitarian God, and how this might be prefigured in Hinduism (Vishnu, Shiva...).

Thank you again for your post.

this is from the 'tomb of jesus' post on the guest panelists site-

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